I'm wondering

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:27 pm

With the exposure of Jonas' aunt being in the Order it's made me think about some things. One of them being whether or not the Order somehow had any part in helping Jonas find Bree's videos to begin with. Setting up the situation with the hopes of things going the way they have. Minus a couple of blocks in the road, of course.

milowent · Post by **milowent** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:33 pm

if jonas and bree coming together is a coincidence, it will be pretty ridiculous.

colbertnationgirl · Post by **colbertnationgirl** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:50 pm

cosmicdancer wrote:With the exposure of Jonas' aunt being in the Order it's made me think about some things. One of them being whether or not the Order somehow had any part in helping Jonas find Bree's videos to begin with. Setting up the situation with the hopes of things going the way they have. Minus a couple of blocks in the road, of course.

IMO, Jonas is already in the Order and this was always a set up.

Melisa · Post by **Melisa** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:07 pm

Heh, there sure are a LOT of coincidences in this series.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:30 pm

colbertnationgirl wrote: IMO, Jonas is already in the Order and this was always a set up.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:34 pm

longlostposter wrote:
colbertnationgirl wrote: IMO, Jonas is already in the Order and this was always a set up.

noooo, you guys, it's Jonas!

jonasrawks · Post by **jonasrawks** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:37 pm

Sami wrote:
longlostposter wrote:
colbertnationgirl wrote: IMO, Jonas is already in the Order and this was always a set up.

noooo, you guys, it's Jonas!

i'm with sami on this one. we saw the transcript from his dad. why would they have something like taht if they werei n the order?

colbertnationgirl · Post by **colbertnationgirl** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:41 pm

jonasrawks wrote:i'm with sami on this one. we saw the transcript from his dad. why would they have something like taht if they werei n the order?

If there was an anti-Order group, the Order would kill it. They would have taken the manuscript to prevent anyone else from seeing it, and when they needed something to prove Jonas' "innocence" to Bree and Daniel, they gave it to him.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:05 pm

colbertnationgirl wrote:
jonasrawks wrote:i'm with sami on this one. we saw the transcript from his dad. why would they have something like taht if they werei n the order?
If there was an anti-Order group, the Order would kill it. They would have taken the manuscript to prevent anyone else from seeing it, and when they needed something to prove Jonas' "innocence" to Bree and Daniel, they gave it to him.

That's a pretty good explanation.

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:06 pm

I don't think Jonas is in Order because everyone else besides Bree and Daniel who has actually been on camera has been. I think it would be an overkill if Jonas was in the Order.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:10 pm

I really, really, really don't think Jonas is in the order

jonasrawks · Post by **jonasrawks** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:13 pm

colbertnationgirl wrote:
jonasrawks wrote:i'm with sami on this one. we saw the transcript from his dad. why would they have something like taht if they werei n the order?
If there was an anti-Order group, the Order would kill it. They would have taken the manuscript to prevent anyone else from seeing it, and when they needed something to prove Jonas' "innocence" to Bree and Daniel, they gave it to him.

but why would they keep it? bree and daniel (or even tachy) could use it against them! they should of destroyed it.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:18 pm

If Jonas were order I don't think Tach would let Bree around him. I don't think it was coincidence that Tach swept up Bree right before Alex came.

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:46 pm

Plus now that we know Jonas' parents are still alive, it makes even more sense for him to not be in the Order. I have a feeling the plot of this story is going to expand from just "we're permanently running from scary watcher dudes and the Order wants Bree to be in the ceremony but can't actually force her" to also include "Where are Jonas' parents, what has happened to them, and can we find them?"

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:25 pm

Alright,

1) Jonas, a stranger, out of the blue, invites Bree and Daniel to stay with him.

2) He knows where they are all the time, because he is with them, and they are completely dependent on him for their necessities. And...he continues to use his cellphone.

3) Jonas still continues to help them out, despite Bree tying him up for days, because she found an Order-looking symbol in the cabin.

4) He is gone from the cabin for a while, and then "breaks in" and "finds"a document in the attic, or wherever, that supposedly proves his innocence. We see him arrive in the attic in the video, but not actually look for anything before Daniel finds him. However, he does come up with that document (Did he have it on him before he went into the house?).

5) He decides it's time to leave the cabin, and takes them to an Aunt's house he says he hasn't seen in years, when he has made it seem as though he has no family all along.

6) This Aunt turns out to be in the Order, and Jonas then convinces Daniel to leave supposed because of what he has seen on Bree's video (the pic of Lucy at the party, which Alex managed to keep Daniels from noticing, by getting him drunk and flirting with him).

7) Jonas says he watched Bree's video, and that is why he wants him and Daniel to leave, but he doesn't give Daniel the time to watch Bree's video. This means that Jonas knew Bree was on the way there, and didn't inform Daniel, who surely wouldn't have left knowing that the Aunt was in the Order, and Bree was on the way there (Aunt Alex's house). And (Jonas), by leaving, and when he knew Bree was on the way there, showed no regard for Bree's safety whatsoever.

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