Something that has always bothered me about Jonas

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:18 am

"Bree, they're getting impatient" --Jonas, The Human Ransom

Does anyone else think this sounded like he was hurrying her into the clutches of the Order?

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:43 am

He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:25 am

exanimatebylove wrote:He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

Actually, Jonas has done a lot of suspicious things too. That's why the forum isn't sure if he is Order or not. People who were sure he was Order a week ago, now aren't sure, and vice versa for those who were sure he wasn't. Jonas is an enigma.

Yes, Bree reacted too quickly and impulsively. The girl has become so paranoid about the Order that she's losing her mind. I think we will see Bree on her own very soon.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:45 am

exanimatebylove wrote:He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

He didn't act like he knew there was a plan - even to the point of questioning whether Brother was her (Tachyon's) real brother. Seems if he knew in advance he wouldn't be questioning while they are running.
Also, one of the big things this series has always done is let our minds fill in the blanks - they don't give us a completed picture (on purpose). If Bree suspects Jonas, there's probably more to it than just the symbol.

RipRebel · Post by **RipRebel** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:26 am

exanimatebylove wrote:He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

All the Jonas supporters keep forgeting that he has already said the symbol has been there as long as he can remember. This blows any theory about it being "planted" recently to frame Jonas. All of this casts suspicion back to Jonas or at the very least his parents. More needs to be found out about his family and just who was he calling on his cell? I'm not saying he is bad but I need more answers before I trust him.

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nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:16 am

RipRebel wrote:
exanimatebylove wrote:He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.
All the Jonas supporters keep forgeting that he has already said the symbol has been there as long as he can remember. This blows any theory about it being "planted" recently to frame Jonas. All of this casts suspicion back to Jonas or at the very least his parents. More needs to be found out about his family and just who was he calling on his cell? I'm not saying he is bad but I need more answers before I trust him.

We definatley need to learn more about Jonas' background and how he was raised. He says that his parents let him do anything he wanted, so he wasn't raised like Bree was raised....all this reminded me moreso of Daniel's parents and how they raised him.

Skunkwaffle · Post by **Skunkwaffle** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:36 pm

Jonas != Order

I stand by that

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:52 pm

trainer101 wrote:Also, one of the big things this series has always done is let our minds fill in the blanks - they don't give us a completed picture (on purpose). If Bree suspects Jonas, there's probably more to it than just the symbol.

I think you're right about this.

michiev · Post by **michiev** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:07 pm

longlostposter wrote:
exanimatebylove wrote:He was concerned. He obviously knew there was a plan in order...right? So wouldn't he have stopped Tachyon from making sure Bree was safe if he was a "bad" guy. ?? Just a question. All this time has past and he's done nothing bad. Except for have some unknown symbol in his house that ANYONE could have put there. I mean, you saw all those cameras at their old place. Who knows how the thing got there. But it's wrong of them or Bree I should say ...to just assume it's Jonas. I thought that Bree was smarter than that but, guess not. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.
Actually, Jonas has done a lot of suspicious things too. That's why the forum isn't sure if he is Order or not. People who were sure he was Order a week ago, now aren't sure, and vice versa for those who were sure he wasn't. Jonas is an enigma.

Yes, Bree reacted too quickly and impulsively. The girl has become so paranoid about the Order that she's losing her mind. I think we will see Bree on her own very soon.

I do think your right. I think that if jonas was sent by the order to do a job. That his job would be to get Daniel to TURN against bree. They want bree on her own, they want nobody in the way when they go to take her to do the ceremony, IF in fact jonas is a part of the order... Then that would most likely be his job. even though when Daniel decided to go home jonas bugged him into coming there for a reason. i dont know what that reason is but there is a reason.

Gr there was something else i was going to say and i cant remember it. I cant stand when that happens..i think it had something to do with Daniel x_X

Widdershin · Post by **Widdershin** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:54 am

Have you guys seen the latest videos? The eye with two tear droppies is ANTI-order.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:22 am

Widdershin wrote:Have you guys seen the latest videos? The eye with two tear droppies is ANTI-order.

Yes, we have. You have resurrected a very old thread.

And I'm still not convinced that the symbol is anti-Order. If you know this positively, then please tell me how. Is it something in Parallax?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:36 am

longlostposter wrote:And I'm still not convinced that the symbol is anti-Order. If you know this positively, then please tell me how. Is it something in Parallax?

Daniel said it in the "On The Road Again" vid, didn't he? Or did you mean you're not convinced from BD&J's findings?

Widdershin · Post by **Widdershin** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:45 am

longlostposter wrote:
Widdershin wrote:Have you guys seen the latest videos? The eye with two tear droppies is ANTI-order.
Yes, we have. You have resurrected a very old thread.

And I'm still not convinced that the symbol is anti-Order. If you know this positively, then please tell me how. Is it something in Parallax?

Sorry <.< I didn't check the date. I don't know it positively but I think since the creators were loathe to continue the series and tie up all their loose ends in the first palce- that pulling a double agent thing after doing SO much set-up for Jonas to be the "good guy" and add to their group would be just another loose end they really wouldn't wanna tie up.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:55 am

Lurker wrote:
longlostposter wrote:And I'm still not convinced that the symbol is anti-Order. If you know this positively, then please tell me how. Is it something in Parallax?
Daniel said it in the "On The Road Again" vid, didn't he? Or did you mean you're not convinced from BD&J's findings?

I'm not convinced that the documents Jonas showed them are even authentic, much less truthful. Once again, the assumptions are based totally on what Jonas has said, discovered, or done; and as such, are suspect...simply because Jonas is suspect, as he is obviously hiding things from B&D.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:57 am

When were the Creators thinking of discontinuing the series? Did they discuss that on the radioshow?