How did Bree respond to her dad?

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:35 am

This just occured to me last night. If Bree responded to her dad in her video---"CUSOON"---does that mean that Bree's dad was watching her videos? Or did she reply in the form of a phone call...such as leaving her dad a message on that machine?

gogo · Post by **gogo** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:37 am

This is a good point that brings up questions like:
How didi he see the video when he was with the order?
Was he in fact kidnapped or working with them (to be able to have access to the Internet)?
Was CU SOON meant for someone else?
hmmmm.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:39 am

gogo wrote: Was CU SOON meant for someone else?

She couldn't have been telling us, the viewers, that she would see us soon..it had to of been for someone for some reason. Unless this is just something they didn't piece together very well for the storyline.

gogo · Post by **gogo** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:54 am

Well, I hope it is addressed. Perhaps Bree was talking to someone else who we would never suspect. After all, she didi lie to Daniel (and us) with the whole faked ceremony. I wonder if she could be hiding something else.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:58 am

Bree definately has a dark side that is yet to be revealed.

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:35 pm

i wondered about that.... how did bree's dad even see it (if he did at all)
another thing- how did bree's dad set up a telephone line, check youtube, and then go visit with bree without the order flipping out until the last second? if the order knew he was going to visit bree, they would have kept him on greater watch... unless they wanted to capture bree (which is what i thought before). but they didn't. they just wanted mr. bree's body. you would think they would keep an eye on him
which leads to another theory: they WANTED bree to know whatever it was her dad told her. that she was adopted/abducted.
and from there it all goes back to the illuminati and that whole weakening-the-stronger-personality-(bree)-to-release-the-inner-personality-(cassie) thing
wow. what a tangent.

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:48 pm

After Jonas's video today, my theory on how he was able to communicate with her is that he had somehow gotten away from the order and was on the run. They caught up with him in the parking garage and he was their primary target. They were there to "reward" him for his actions.

Just my theory of course.

ex mechanic · Post by **ex mechanic** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:47 pm

Bree's dad wasn't under any suspicion or being closely watched because as far as the Order knew, he had just been doing what he'd been ordered to do; raise Bree according to instructions and disappear when told to do so. He'd been ordered not to contact her, and it never occurred to anyone that he might care enough about her to disobey.

I occurs to me that Mr. Bree must have had orders to be a tyrant to Bree, never to show her any affection, and to be the all-round bad guy of the family. This is why Mrs. Bree got angry when they did things together, such as watching movies or long talks about scientists, and why Mrs. Bree always was the one to take Bree's side in disagreements. His midlife crisis was that he realized that he was living his life in a way that had become intolerable to him - mistreating a helpless child that he had come to love despite orders and training, destined for some fate about which he must have some suspicions, and mindlessly following orders from a group of secretive superiors.

He had a Rosencrantz and Guildenstern moment, and opted for free will.

The question now is, if he wasn't under close observation and was able to move around freely, how did they track him down to the garage? I smell a rat. Maybe a little transmitter device in Jonas's pocket, with a button to push when the target's in sight and out of public view? He did seem awfully interested in making sure of who Mr. Bree was, and he sure took his time going toward the scuffle in the garage.

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:30 am

If Jonas and Mr. Bree were both lapdogs for the order, working in the same area, it's possible they would have rubbed elbows with each other, though possibly not.

However, if Jonas was ordered to surveil Mr. Bree, he would certainly have known what he looked like. The Order has acted with precision and... well... order, thus far, and mistakes are not rewarded positively. They wouldn't have risked their agent not knowing who his mark was.

Obviously Mr. Bree did something prior to meeting up with Bree that made the order suspicious of his motives. It's just too large a coincidence that they would be trailing him on the day he met Bree if he was able to move around freely.

I agree that he was most likely following orders and had a change of heart. But somehow he tipped off the order. It's still possible that he decided to defect. Depending on how early this happened, the order could have trailed Daniel to Bree and then waited for Mr. Bree to make contact in order to get to him.

Supposing he didn't, maybe they just caught him when he made the recording for her. But then, if Bree wasn't the target, why give him the chance to meet with her at all? I still don't think they knew where he was until the day he met up with her.

Edit for spelling and clarity

ex mechanic · Post by **ex mechanic** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:32 pm

He might have set up the phone for "Powell Cleaners" months ago, when he decided to disobey his orders and try to save Bree, probably around the time he allowed Daniel back into the house. It could be just a cheap cell account. Bree doesn't mention how she got the number - possibly from an adress book that was sitting around, or from the note left inside P. Monkey. The Order wouldn't have known that he was contacting her until that ratfink Jonas told them, and he didn't know where they were to meet until Daniel figured it out. They could have sent a car to the general area, and waited until Jonas fingered him.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:09 pm

I don't think Bree's dad sees her videos. Bree has said it before. She said he wouldn't know a webcam from a hole in the wall, or something.

The message from her dad asked her to leave a message (I assumed voicemail) when she got it. I believe she did that in order to respond. I think the CUSOON may have been for Jonas and Daniel. Kind of like a "Don't be mad.. I'll be back." Or even a "Follow me and make sure I'm okay."

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:22 am

How about this question:

How did Bree's dad know that she responded? How did he know it was really his daughter leaving him a message? Did he know she would be calling from Jonas' house?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:39 pm

Just thought of something...turn around on shirts is 8-9 days? Not only part of a phone number...but perhaps 9 days is when he'll meet her?

raigne · Post by **raigne** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:08 pm

Kasdeja wrote:Just thought of something...turn around on shirts is 8-9 days? Not only part of a phone number...but perhaps 9 days is when he'll meet her?

He said he would meet her a week after she responded. She met him, like.... 3 days? after posting the CUSOON video. I didn't think about how she might have gotten the phone number in the first place, her father had to have planted that little seed long before they were hauled off by the order.

And I still don't think Jonas had anything to do with the hit on Bree's dad. He would have known what his mark looked like. I do think he was suspiciously obvious in making sure it was her dad. I think other peoples' theory, that he was expecting someone else to be her dad, is mor eplausible. Though maybe it's my hope that LG15 hasn't grown so stangnant and predictable as to make Jonas a member of the order in addition to Gemma. Where's the fun in that when they were so obviously meant to be opposing forces?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:15 pm

Yeah, people figured out the phone number and such back when that video was posted. It's all strange, that whole situation.

Also, I dont' think Jonas has anything to do with the death of Mr. Bree, either. I think he's hiding something and there's definitely more meat to his story...but you are right, that's not the meat.