0065 Life's Not Fair [11/02/06]

beavinator · Post by **beavinator** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:34 am

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the next vid is Daniel telling us Bree called and said she was coming over, but she never showed up...

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:01 am

lol to ^ thats exactly what I was thinking.

She has a backpack. I wonder what she has in it?

And I wonder if the injections are going to continue?

There isn't much to find in this vid..its pretty self explainatory.

Post by **Broken Kid** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:22 am

canadas_baby wrote:I can see Broken Kid now "YOU FORGOT OWEN" Hehe .. Bree needs them just as much as we need them

Good point! I didn't think about running away till you guys suggested it. Owen is able to be stuffed into small spaces, and monkey can fit in your pocket, so they shouldn't take up too much space. And if she goes south, she can skip packing a coat and stuff Thor in with Owen! *whew*

Post by **Broken Kid** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:31 am

So just to pull a couple of people's theories together, in What Makes us Sad? she talks about ways to respond to sadness: hide (like Owen), get mad (like Thor), or ignore it. She was acting like Monkey (ignoring it), then hiding, and now maybe she's ready to get mad and do something about it. (grrr!)

Also, in response to the post about being forced to do the ceremony, I think there's a lot to that. I mean, they can kidnap her and force her to be there, but can they really force her to do the steps and say the words if they don't have something over her? The obvious thing would be to kidnap or threaten Daniel or Bree's parents.

But then again, from all of our suppositions about the ceremony, how many would require a willing participant? If she's just doing a little recitation, maybe it wouldn't matter either way. But if it's something darker (human sacrifice, impregnation - I don't think it's going to be this dark), perhaps she just has to be there and wouldn't need encouragement.

Time to go all Thor-like Bree! Get angry! You and Daniel need to fight back! (And bring the animals with you for support!)

Reb · Post by **Reb** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:33 am

beavinator wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if the next vid is Daniel telling us Bree called and said she was coming over, but she never showed up...

I agree, it is about time there is a video from daniel. the reason that they put the bag in could be because when they go looking for bree they find the bag and realise that she has been taken!

ForeverMourn · Post by **ForeverMourn** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:50 am

beavinator wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if the next vid is Daniel telling us Bree called and said she was coming over, but she never showed up...

Thats defintley a good idea.

creativebarbie · Post by **creativebarbie** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:08 am

There defenatly has been a lack of daniel vids latley
If bree went missing gemma and Daniel could take over I guess...

But i'm not sure I would love that so much.

p.s. Gemma is BEAUTIFUL
I don't care what you guys say

Noelle · Post by **Noelle** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:37 am

Can anyone do me a HUGE favor and type out the dialouge for me?

I'm on the school's computers and the video won't pop up...:<

If not, I'll just wait another 3 hours.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:42 am

ForeverMourn wrote:
beavinator wrote:I wouldn't be at all surprised if the next vid is Daniel telling us Bree called and said she was coming over, but she never showed up...
Thats defintley a good idea.

or maybe they will run away together to london nd join gemma in hiding!!!!

beavinator · Post by **beavinator** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:44 am

Noelle wrote:Can anyone do me a HUGE favor and type out the dialouge for me?

As soon as somebody does that it'll be here:

http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/ind ... s_Not_Fair

Noelle · Post by **Noelle** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:51 am

Oh, thank you! n_n

I just recently noticed and began using the LGpedia, but never realized it included transcripts.

socitygrrrl · Post by **socitygrrrl** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:54 am

A couple things in the vid stuck out in my mind-

1) Right before coming back to the camera to say she's heading to Daniel's house, she gathers all of her stuffed animals in her lap.. this could be symbollic of either asking them for help or advice OR telling them goodbye.

I think it's the latter- afterall, if it looks like she'll be coming home from Daniel's house soon, it gives her a head start (of at least 4 or 5 hours) if she's actually running away.

2) Bree says her parents went to the Deacons and told them she didn't want to be A PART of the ceremony. Does this mean that the ceremony isn't "all about Bree?" It gives us the suspicion that the ceremony is just something they do.. and they must pick someone like Bree to be a part of it.

3) The fact that there is no time to prepare someone else for the ceremony, also supports the theory that the ceremony will be happening on a particular day and time.. that it is a fixed event which is essential to their religion. Also, this sort of implies that my number 2 thesis, stated above is also correct- the ceremony is not meant to be centered around Bree... she is just a part of it.. like the tabernacle or the communion bell or perhaps the communion wafer itself...

4) "Daniel said I should come over, so that's what I'm going to do." Does her blatent lack of self-esteem irriate anyone else? I'm pretty sure that she has never once made a decision on her own, without coaxing from other people. She goes back and forth between what her parents tell her to do to what the religious cucku's tell her to do to what Daniel tells her to do. It seems to me that she's not very intelligent. If an evil cult was going to force me to be part of a weird ceremony and I didn't want to do it, I'd develop a PLAN to get out of it... what would I do exactly? Well I'd have to be in that situation to decide... but whatever my plan included, it would be MY PLAN... and yes, I could include other people in it, but still it wouldn't be their plan, it would be MINE. Bree needs to start thinking for herself for a change.

PS- Interesting, don't most cults take advantage of those people who cannot, or choose not to, think for themselves?

EDIT: After considering number 4, I changed my mind about number 1... I think the latter option.. that she is saying goodbye to the animals, would be the SMART option- it would show she was actually planning to leave. However, her track record shows that she doesn't usually think for herself, so most likely it's number 1...........

No, I'm torn simply because Daniel could have told her to leave her animals and make it seem like she's coming back home. AND it is true that she seems more grown up as of late... if she was so grown up, why would she consult them for advice? BAH.

Noelle · Post by **Noelle** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:02 am

Whoah. Those are all REALLY good points.

Ahhhhhhhh!!! *wishes she could watch the video*

Post by **Broken Kid** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:12 am

socitygrrrl wrote:4) "Daniel said I should come over, so that's what I'm going to do." Does her blatent lack of self-esteem irriate anyone else? I'm pretty sure that she has never once made a decision on her own, without coaxing from other people. She goes back and forth between what her parents tell her to do to what the religious cucku's tell her to do to what Daniel tells her to do. It seems to me that she's not very intelligent. If an evil cult was going to force me to be part of a weird ceremony and I didn't want to do it, I'd develop a PLAN to get out of it... what would I do exactly? Well I'd have to be in that situation to decide... but whatever my plan included, it would be MY PLAN... and yes, I could include other people in it, but still it wouldn't be their plan, it would be MINE. Bree needs to start thinking for herself for a change.

You make some good points. But just remember, she doesn't see her religion as an "evil cult" or the ceremony as a "weird ceremony". She wants out because she doesn't like not knowing what's going to happen, and she doesn't like that they're baiting and semi-threatening Daniel. But this is the faith she was raised with, and she never has said she doesn't want to be a part of it anymore... it's a small point, but it bears repeating. Just because we see it as an evil cult doesn't mean Bree does...

socitygrrrl · Post by **socitygrrrl** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:15 am

Broken Kid wrote:
socitygrrrl wrote:4) "Daniel said I should come over, so that's what I'm going to do." Does her blatent lack of self-esteem irriate anyone else? I'm pretty sure that she has never once made a decision on her own, without coaxing from other people. She goes back and forth between what her parents tell her to do to what the religious cucku's tell her to do to what Daniel tells her to do. It seems to me that she's not very intelligent. If an evil cult was going to force me to be part of a weird ceremony and I didn't want to do it, I'd develop a PLAN to get out of it... what would I do exactly? Well I'd have to be in that situation to decide... but whatever my plan included, it would be MY PLAN... and yes, I could include other people in it, but still it wouldn't be their plan, it would be MINE. Bree needs to start thinking for herself for a change.
You make some good points. But just remember, she doesn't see her religion as an "evil cult" or the ceremony as a "weird ceremony". She wants out because she doesn't like not knowing what's going to happen, and she doesn't like that they're baiting and semi-threatening Daniel. But this is the faith she was raised with, and she never has said she doesn't want to be a part of it anymore... it's a small point, but it bears repeating. Just because we see it as an evil cult doesn't mean Bree does...

touche, my friend. great point!