Gemma, Daniel, and everything in between.

pariah164 · Post by **pariah164** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:57 am

Besides the obvious fact Gemma was thrown in by the cult leaders to persuade Bree to do the ceremony... Well, maybe that's just me. But anyways.

It'll probably be very hard for Bree to know who to trust now. But it should be obvious that though Daniel did do stalker-ish things, he did them because he was scared and worried about Bree, and now himself as well.

I do believe that the shots affect her thinking as well. I mean, in the My Helper video, she claims her only female friend was Cassie, and that she had no other female friends. But then suddenly Gemma conveniantly pops up to prove otherwise, and Bree's suddenly like, 'oh yeah huh'. The shots affect her thinking. I firmly believe that.

What else... Oh, how can she talk to her parents about it? In her argument with Daniel, she said that they weren't Order of Denderah (or however its spelled). Then again, she obviously lied to Daniel about the ceremony, and revealed that it was her dad giving her the shots, so maybe that was a lie then too.

Anyways, I literally woke up and watched this video, and those were the thoughts running through my head. Thanks for reading.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:01 am

How is that an obvious fact? Maybe Gemma was trying to stress how serious it was...and that her parents will not let her back out?

pariah164 · Post by **pariah164** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:04 am

Kasdeja wrote:How is that an obvious fact? Maybe Gemma was trying to stress how serious it was...and that her parents will not let her back out?

Oh, come on. I mean, Bree never even MENTIONS her till now, and suddenly Gemma is all knowing? I dunno. Like I said, it's just my own opinions/thoughts, and I *did* just wake up. So that's just my initial impression.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:05 am

She wasn't friends with her, but her dog. Gemma is a new character and a former person on the religoin. Come on.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:06 am

Hey, if I recall correctly, Bree said Gemma's dog was her best friend. And that their mothers were really close, but not necessarily the two of them.

Just a thought from my little pea-brain

pariah164 · Post by **pariah164** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:08 am

Ziola wrote:Hey, if I recall correctly, Bree said Gemma's dog was her best friend. And that their mothers were really close, but not necessarily the two of them.

Just a thought from my little pea-brain

True. So what reason does Bree have to trust her? None, really.

storyteller · Post by **storyteller** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:31 am

Curious- I hadn't really considered the idea that Gemma would be lying about still being a part of the group. I'm not really sure that I see any evidence that she is lying, and with Bree there were clues. I'm far more inclined to believe that Gemma is a source of information that the creators have added to give us more clues.

pariah164 · Post by **pariah164** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:37 am

storyteller wrote:Curious- I hadn't really considered the idea that Gemma would be lying about still being a part of the group. I'm not really sure that I see any evidence that she is lying, and with Bree there were clues. I'm far more inclined to believe that Gemma is a source of information that the creators have added to give us more clues.

That's true, she is there for more clues. I'm just saying plotwise, she may not be able to be trusted. But why was she never mentioned before? That's what bugs me.

storyteller · Post by **storyteller** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:41 am

pariah164 wrote:
storyteller wrote:Curious- I hadn't really considered the idea that Gemma would be lying about still being a part of the group. I'm not really sure that I see any evidence that she is lying, and with Bree there were clues. I'm far more inclined to believe that Gemma is a source of information that the creators have added to give us more clues.
That's true, she is there for more clues. I'm just saying plotwise, she may not be able to be trusted. But why was she never mentioned before? That's what bugs me.

It sort of bugged me too, but then I started to think about the age difference. If Bree hadn't lived in Nottinghamshire for two or three years (just a guess) and there are two or two and a half years between Bree and Gemma it makes sense that a 16 or 17 year-old wouldn't want to hang out with a 13 or 14 year-old. I know I didn't. The age difference becomes less of an issue as you get older, but at that age it makes a big difference.

pariah164 · Post by **pariah164** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:48 am

storyteller wrote:It sort of bugged me too, but then I started to think about the age difference. If Bree hadn't lived in Nottinghamshire for two or three years (just a guess) and there are two or two and a half years between Bree and Gemma it makes sense that a 16 or 17 year-old wouldn't want to hang out with a 13 or 14 year-old. I know I didn't. The age difference becomes less of an issue as you get older, but at that age it makes a big difference.

I hung out with people that age, but I got along with them better than people my own age, so it was just a me thing. But that's a very good point about Gemma herself... But why has she never at least mentioned the dog?

storyteller · Post by **storyteller** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:54 am

pariah164 wrote: But why has she never at least mentioned the dog?

She did- check out the video "Mysteries of my Past REVEALED!"
(http://lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.p ... EVEALED%21)
She says:

"And then, when I was twelve, we moved to England. So when I first heard we were moving to Nottinghamshire, I was kind of excited, you know: Robin Hood, Merry men, outlaws? I thought it would only be a matter of time before we started having fun. The only friend I made the entire time...was a dog!"

It seems that Bree gets along with inanimate objects and animals better than actual people.