How selfish can you be

DeathsLie · Post by **DeathsLie** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:38 pm

Spencer I mean this in the nicest way possible but HOW SELFISH CAN YOU BE?! you've got these people contacting you for help and you aren't even trying when two of them have already lost a parent for all you know one of them (bree) could be in serious danger and all you can think of is how hurt you are? do you not realize the hurt they're feeling is the same? why don't you think about it and think about them and the life of another person instead of being the way you are. atleast try and help. Jonas lost not one parent but BOTH then he pretty much loses his aunt to the order the poor kid needs any help you can give even the slightest bit.

so please take this all into consideration before you jump into the " leave me alone i'm greiving and i can't help" bit

EricaCrowley · Post by **EricaCrowley** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:53 pm

How selfish can you be to ask this guy to risk his life for a group of strangers?

Esteed · Post by **Esteed** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:56 pm

I'll say it again. I must have missed that big red S on Spencer's chest.

Oh. Wait. He's not Superman.

So why oh why is he expected to be?

marlasinger · Post by **marlasinger** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:58 pm

Listen, Spence, I have something to say - and I figured it'd be best to say it in "person":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mowUwgnfTzU

hockeygurl · Post by **hockeygurl** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:28 pm

Just saw Marla's vid and you should watch it Spencer. She's got some great points. Just watch it.

EricaCrowley · Post by **EricaCrowley** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:54 pm

marlasinger wrote:Listen, Spence, I have something to say - and I figured it'd be best to say it in "person":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mowUwgnfTzU

Marla,

It is a sad video. Jonas' dad might be dead, your dad is dead, and now you all want Spencer to be dead. A great way to stay alive is not to get into the middle of a war. We all take chances but Spencer can avoid trouble by telling you people to f-off. Leave Spencer alone, I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of friends and will end up trying to help you kidnap Bree again out of a need for companionship. The only thing is this time it is going to end badly. Very badly.

Erica

marlasinger · Post by **marlasinger** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:27 pm

EricaCrowley wrote:
marlasinger wrote:Listen, Spence, I have something to say - and I figured it'd be best to say it in "person":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mowUwgnfTzU
Marla,

It is a sad video. Jonas' dad might be dead, your dad is dead, and now you all want Spencer to be dead. A great way to stay alive is not to get into the middle of a war. We all take chances but Spencer can avoid trouble by telling you people to f-off. Leave Spencer alone, I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of friends and will end up trying to help you kidnap Bree again out of a need for companionship. The only thing is this time it is going to end badly. Very badly.

Erica

You're probably right sweetie...I just can't sit and do nothing, is all - I want to take the chance. I know, I don't have the right to drag him into this. You're so right.

It's a tough situation, and in many ways, I agree with you. I just want to talk about it to Spence a little.

iampenguin · Post by **iampenguin** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:27 pm

Esteed wrote:I'll say it again. I must have missed that big red S on Spencer's chest.

Oh. Wait. He's not Superman.

So why oh why is he expected to be?

IAWTC

EricaCrowley · Post by **EricaCrowley** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:37 pm

marlasinger wrote:
EricaCrowley wrote:
marlasinger wrote:Listen, Spence, I have something to say - and I figured it'd be best to say it in "person":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mowUwgnfTzU
Marla,

It is a sad video. Jonas' dad might be dead, your dad is dead, and now you all want Spencer to be dead. A great way to stay alive is not to get into the middle of a war. We all take chances but Spencer can avoid trouble by telling you people to f-off. Leave Spencer alone, I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of friends and will end up trying to help you kidnap Bree again out of a need for companionship. The only thing is this time it is going to end badly. Very badly.

Erica
You're probably right sweetie...I just can't sit and do nothing, is all - I want to take the chance. I know, I don't have the right to drag him into this. You're so right.

It's a tough situation, and in many ways, I agree with you. I just want to talk about it to Spence a little.

Ask him to dinner and a movie if you are into geeks but don't ask the poor guy to get killed. This guy couldn't survive a football injury.

Erica

New voice of reason · Post by **New voice of reason** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:01 am

Well, Spencer,

I mean, maybe, you are not a noble guy. That is o.k. by me. People don`t need to be noble. Not all people are noble, by the way.

But what about your curiosity - I mean you are supposed to be a scientist - is there none in you? I mean if someone would tell ME, if my father had died, he had good reasons to believe that it was no accident, I would at least try to get into personal contact with him and try to hear on a one-on-one base what he or she had to say, no matter what it was, and even despite the danger, even if I had been warned (maybe, especially, if I had been warned because then, it would be really interessting me,-))

So, come on, give it a go....

Yours
New Voice of reason

DeathsLie · Post by **DeathsLie** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:12 am

I don't want him killed i just want him to think about his choices marla was right in her video and i agree with everything she says spencer just sit down with them and talk about things you never know it might make you feel better to get it all off your chest to someone that understands and in the mean time you might know something with out thinking it's relevent please just think about it no one wants you dead but jonas danial sarah and taylor are all alive and safe so please one more time think about it

chershaytoute · Post by **chershaytoute** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:39 pm

Just tidying up!!

On request, I have split a number of posts out of this thread. These included posts that threadjacked the topic, posts that were a wee bit this side of flaming, and posts that, once these posts were removed, just didn't make sense without them. These posts can be found in the Rubbish Bin. If y'all have any questions, you're more than welcome to give me a holler... <smile>

BrightSilence · Post by **BrightSilence** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:12 pm

EricaCrowley wrote:Marla,

It is a sad video. Jonas' dad might be dead, your dad is dead, and now you all want Spencer to be dead. A great way to stay alive is not to get into the middle of a war. We all take chances but Spencer can avoid trouble by telling you people to f-off. Leave Spencer alone, I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of friends and will end up trying to help you kidnap Bree again out of a need for companionship. The only thing is this time it is going to end badly. Very badly.

Erica

These messages are really making me sick. Who is Spencer supposed to be afraid of. You claim the HoO is a peaceful religion. If that's true how can Spencer just passing along some info or maybe items related to his father bring him in danger.

Either the HoO isn't as peaceful as you want us to believe OR you just don't want him to give us the info. I think it's actually a bit of both.

Aside from this I do not think that we are in the right place to call Spencer selfish. It is actually very selfish of us to expect him to help us out. If he does, he's definitely someone I look up to. If he doesn't that sucks very much for us, but I can't blame him. Seeing what happened in the past, it's likely our beloved peaceful HoO will break the law again.

A final message to Erica: It is not possible to threaten someone and be peaceful at the same time. If you guys would just leave him alone there would really be no problem at all.

New voice of reason · Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:25 am

Hi Marla,

your vid was great!

I just HOPE it will change Spencer`s mind.

If I were him, it would. Right away.

Yours
New voice of reason

And Spencer,

just watch that vid. Marla has got great points.