(WoW) ab OVO...a beginning

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:57 pm

Oh no! my eyes hurt now.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm

so sorry!

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:54 pm

I asked Will where we could apply the alphabet
here is his reply:

"an answer to a question

Before i can
Answer your question
And give to you
Brilliant replies
Breakfast is in the making

=V

And
Bacon is
All that fries

As questions
All have

=I

Answers

Answers
Are
Beautiful
Boons

=D

Answers like mine
Are forthcoming
Because questions
Are
Asked much too soon

=E

A trick i know, to use that key
But
Be gentle, i implore.
they say
All good things come in three
Believe me, today they come in four"

=O

VIDEO

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:10 pm

Haha I like Will/Sean, he likes to take his time with things.

Not like this star.shinegirl, all "hurry, hurry! you have 24 hours, starting now!"

Or the neurotic IrisNetwork.

Will-O-Wisp · Post by **Will-O-Wisp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:55 pm

"One of the great disadvantages of hurry is that it takes such a long time. "

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... 2036434884

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:52 am

new video = vertumnalia

"Vertumnus' cult arrived in Rome around 300 BC, and a temple to him was constructed on the Aventine Hill in 264 BC. Sextus Propertius' elegy instancing Vertumnus (Elegy 4.2.41-46) refers to a statue of him that was placed at the Vicus Tuscus and decorated according to the changing seasons. His festival was the Vertumnalia on August 13."

found here :http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Vertumnus

so we have a date .
( other sources are reporting that vertumnalia is 8/23, so we have two possible dates)

and "I am Rocinante, bolting free, wildly"
the horse who was no longer a nag

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:15 am

Good job sparky. I just have to say this is not baconian at all, as he used the literal AB code right there in the open, while Bacon devised it as a steganographic technique.

And I still don't quite get what's the story with Abel. Do you have any theories?

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:46 am

deagol wrote:Good job sparky. I just have to say this is not baconian at all, as he used the literal AB code right there in the open, while Bacon devised it as a steganographic technique.

And I still don't quite get what's the story with Abel. Do you have any theories?

I am still thinking on that.
There are definitely cult references here.
Abel is known as the first martyr, the chief martyr, some view him as crying for vengeance. Sometimes he is noted as a precursor to Christ.
I can see a cult leader taking the name Abel. Sean his minion?

what do you think?

HenrySugar · Post by **HenrySugar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:58 pm

Watching the video on a surface level, a few things stand out.
Absinthe being the focus, of course, but I don't know much about it.
There were mentions of Rocinante, which was also mentioned here as an anagram for container, along with a quote from Don Quixote on his myspace.
There's an Oscar Wilde quote. There's the line, Barking Astral Beast of August, which sounds like the star sirius.
Then there is the riddle itself, answer being: vertumnalia.

I dunno. It just seems like there may be more clues here than the obvious.

deagol · Post by **deagol** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:17 pm

sparkybennett wrote:...
I can see a cult leader taking the name Abel. Sean his minion?

what do you think?

Yea it kinda feels that way. But it seems something went wrong in his first "mission" and he wants to rebel or something. In the last 2 videos his tone towards Abel shows some resentment or disappointment.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:07 pm

deagol wrote:
sparkybennett wrote:...
I can see a cult leader taking the name Abel. Sean his minion?

what do you think?
Yea it kinda feels that way. But it seems something went wrong in his first "mission" and he wants to rebel or something. In the last 2 videos his tone towards Abel shows some resentment or disappointment.

Yep
i get the feeling he is breaking out on his own
How long before Abel sends someone after him , or will they have a showdown 8/13 or 8/23.
Or we are completely off base .....

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:45 pm

new post from sean:
Canicula
Cum vero in vastos surget Nemeaeus hiatus,
exoritur candens latratque Canicula flammas
et ra-it igne suo gemin-tque incendi- solis.
qua su-dente f-cem terris radiosque vomente
divinat cineres or-es f-tumque supremum
sortitur, l-nguetque suis Neptunus in undis,
et viridis nemori sanguis decedit et her-is.
cuncta peregrinos or-es animalia quaerunt
atque eget alterius mundus; natura suismet
aegrotat mor-is nimios obsess- per -estus
inque rogo vivit: t-ntus per sider- fervor
funditur atque uno cessant in lumine cuncta.
haec u-i se ponto per prim-s extulit or-s,
nascentem quam nec pelagi restinxerit unda,
effrenos animos violentaque pectora finget
irarumque da-it fluctus odiumque metumque
totius vulgi. pr-ecurrunt verb- loquentis,
ante os est animus nec magnis concita causis
corda micant et lingua ra-it l-tratque loquendo,
morsi-us et crebris dentes in voce relinquit.
-rdescit vino vitium, viresque ministrat
B-cchus et in fl-mmam saevas exsuscitat iras.
nec silvas rupesque timent vastosque leones
aut spumantis apri dentes atque arma ferarum,
effunduntque suas concesso in corpore flammas.
ne talis mirere artes su- sidere t-li,
cernis ut ipsum eti-m sidus venetur in astris;
praegressum quaerit Leporem comprendere cursu

translated to Latin, but not making much sense:

Canicula
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deagol · Post by **deagol** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:54 pm

http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/manilius5.html

Look around a third of the page down, or search for "Cum vero in vastos"

The dashes in Sean's post are in place of missing letters (abba code

).

baababaabbbaaaabaabaababaaabaa = TURTLE

About the latin poem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Manilius

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:04 pm

deagol wrote:http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/manilius5.html

Look around a third of the page down, or search for "Cum vero in vastos"

The dashes in Sean's post are in place of missing letters (abba code ).

baababaabbbaaaabaabaababaaabaa = TURTLE

wow

turtles all the way down anyone?

canicula= the brightest star in the sky

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:27 am

title of the video: The Green Goddess

PLOT:A small plane carrying three British citizens is forced down somewhere near the Himalayas. The plane lands in the tiny Princedom of Rukh ruled by a curiously deranged old Raja. The three visitors find themselves at the mercy of the Raja and are caught up in his lustful plots & plans.
The Rajah holds them prisoner because the British are about to execute his three half-brothers in neighboring India. His subjects believe that their Green Goddess has given them the lives of the three Brits as payment for the lives of the Rajah's brothers. They will execute them when the brothers are executed.