[PUZZLE]Empty House?!: Wiggins Quote c.1860.

[TheeBerean]

Interesting find deagol... so many different leads seem to almost be it... but which one??

To aid in the comparison here is a picture of "the stick man" enlarged by 70%.






~tb

[giddeanx]

Ok, wait a second.

1. Did the Wiggins from the Sherlock novel make this code?
2. He didn't appear till 1886 hardly circa 1860. Would this qualify?
3. Is this line of reasoning from "Empty House"?
4. Isn't this a "What does this mean?" question?

[owldragon]

The only reason the Wiggins in Sherlock Holmes would seem to be significant is that he would provide a connection with the next part of the clue. The "Wiggins Quote c.1860" part doesn't seem to be directly connected to Sherlock Holmes because the character wasn't around in 1860 and has no memorable quotes.

[kellylen]

Interesting find deagol... so many different leads seem to almost be it... but which one??

To aid in the comparison here is a picture of "the stick man" enlarged by 70%.






~tb

our poor stick man has no foot thought!

[LesterG]

nor arms

[selizabeth]

There is a book that was published in 2003, My Sherlock Holmes: Untold Stories of the Great Detective. It is a collection of stories by different authors told through the eyes of several of Arthur Conan Doyle's characters.

One such story is named Call Me Wiggins, by Norman Schreiber.

As far as I can tell, Wiggins is telling a story about a time that predates when he was mentioned in actual Sherlock Holmes novels. Wiggins is 12 years old in the story. I'm not sure how old he is in any of the original Sherlock Holmes stories. I can't find a full version of the story online but they do have it at my local library. I might make the trek out later this afternoon and see if it has anything interesting. I have no idea if it would be any help, or even if the story falls within the correct timeline to be c.1860.

[LesterG]

There is a book that was published in 2003, My Sherlock Holmes: Untold Stories of the Great Detective.

One such story is named Call Me Wiggins, by Norman Schreiber.

this book
http://books.google.com/books?id=1k3T_z ... 0CjqfaDkbE

edit: gah only shows the first like 4 pgs

[LesterG]

wiggin's quote..

could it just be a quote from wiggins himself?

edit: edited to avoid misdirection and confusion

[giddeanx]

i think it is the wrong direction because the wiggins quote is definately linked to circa 1860 well before Doyle's Wiggins exsisted.

[TheeBerean]

i think it is the wrong direction because the wiggins quote is definately linked to circa 1860 well before Doyle's Wiggins exsisted.

Hmmm... I tend to agree.

[selizabeth]

Ok, so I have been awake for almost 24 hours due to my crazy overnight work schedule so forgive me if this post is a bit disjointed, but I think I had a crazy "Aha!" moment.

I was thinking some more about the "6 strings: mute them" portion of this puzzle. I looked up the word "string" in the dictionary just for kicks and one def. is: any series of things arranged or connected in a line: a string of questions, a string of numbers.

So, as far as I can understand, the guitar tab portion of the Suess pictures was solved by decoding messages from numbers placed on a musical staff of some kind, correct? And these numbers were placed in specific lines, or "strings". (Forgive me, I really have no clue how it was technically soved so I'm just inferring here.)

I'm thinking, what if the three messages that we got, ("is this thing on check one" "good check fill the house" "no audience no curtain call") could make a fourth message if specific strings of numbers were "muted" or removed from the original puzzles.

There would be a total of 18 strings of numbers to work with so there would be quite a few possibilities for which combination of strings to mute to get the correct message.

Is anyone following what I'm saying?

Again, I'm not sure if what i'm saying even makes sense due to the fact that I don't know exactly how the puzzles were solved. Just throwin' it out there.

[sparkybennett]

I'm thinking, what if the three messages that we got, ("is this thing on check one" "good check fill the house" "no audience no curtain call") could make a fourth message if specific strings of numbers were "muted" or removed from the original puzzles.

There would be a total of 18 strings of numbers to work with so there would be quite a few possibilities for which combination of strings to mute to get the correct message.

Is anyone following what I'm saying?

Again, I'm not sure if what i'm saying even makes sense due to the fact that I don't know exactly how the puzzles were solved. Just throwin' it out there.

I follow you, and it sounds possible, unfortunately I don't have the skills necessary to try it
hopefully one of the master code breakers will!
It sounds like a good new way to look at this.

[TheeBerean]

Ok, so I have been awake for almost 24 hours due to my crazy overnight work schedule so forgive me if this post is a bit disjointed, but I think I had a crazy "Aha!" moment.

I was thinking some more about the "6 strings: mute them" portion of this puzzle. I looked up the word "string" in the dictionary just for kicks and one def. is: any series of things arranged or connected in a line: a string of questions, a string of numbers.

So, as far as I can understand, the guitar tab portion of the Suess pictures was solved by decoding messages from numbers placed on a musical staff of some kind, correct? And these numbers were placed in specific lines, or "strings". (Forgive me, I really have no clue how it was technically soved so I'm just inferring here.)

I'm thinking, what if the three messages that we got, ("is this thing on check one" "good check fill the house" "no audience no curtain call") could make a fourth message if specific strings of numbers were "muted" or removed from the original puzzles.

There would be a total of 18 strings of numbers to work with so there would be quite a few possibilities for which combination of strings to mute to get the correct message.

Is anyone following what I'm saying?

Again, I'm not sure if what i'm saying even makes sense due to the fact that I don't know exactly how the puzzles were solved. Just throwin' it out there.

*ahem* Deagol?

[deagol]

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I don't see how anything could come out from muting 6 of these strings. You could start by muting the 3rd and 5th from the first message, and you get "is his hig chece." I can't make anything else work.

[sparkybennett]

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I don't see how anything could come out from muting 6 of these strings. You could start by muting the 3rd and 5th from the first message, and you get "is his hig chece." I can't make anything else work.

well it was a good try

I am tempted to think that "6 broken strings, mute them " is just Zipps way of saying he would mute himself.