Mr. Zipp's identity - might have to help me on this one.

[Avajoy]

Who's to say that Mr. Zipp and Adam aren't the same person? MZ made it quite clear that the passwords could only be known by someone "who really knows her", and who else knows her in-game, but Adam?

There's the huge, gaping hole of motivation, but then Adam could be working for Mr. Zipp. Could be friends with his kid, who knows? Emily could be his kid, for all we know!

15 days "until both the sender and receiver are eliminated". We keep asking "Why Adam? Why did he have to get killed too?" and the answer could very well be that he was in on it, and he had to die, too.

This may be grasping at straws, but you never know - I could be on to something!

[Letal89]

Mr.Zipp talks about having a kid in danger. I think Adam is a bit too young, but you never know these days. I like that you're thinking outside the box though.

[Samara]

Well, I thought the same thing, actually.

I swear to you that I heard Adam say "abortion" at one point in that last video.

[Avajoy]

If he's not Mr. Zipp, he could be working for/with Zipp, or even be Zipp's kid. I think there is something significant about Adam.

[Lurker]

Who's to say that Mr. Zipp and Adam aren't the same person? MZ made it quite clear that the passwords could only be known by someone "who really knows her", and who else knows her in-game, but Adam?

How would we reconcile all that stuff about a kid with Adam, though? Also, anyone who hacked Maddison's accounts and got her passwords could be said to "know her" in a way. I'm unfamiliar with or forgetting where the part about someone "who really knows her" (please refresh my memory), but could it perhaps be meant in the way I'm referring to?

Presumably, in order to upload the video of killing them, War Pylol would have needed to hack Maddison's account anyway, right? So it's not out of the question.

Of course, we are still left to wonder why Mr. Zipp would have chosen Maddison. He must have known about her somehow.

There's the huge, gaping hole of motivation, but then Adam could be working for Mr. Zipp. Could be friends with his kid, who knows? Emily could be his kid, for all we know!

Maybe. Interesting idea, at the least.

15 days "until both the sender and receiver are eliminated". We keep asking "Why Adam? Why did he have to get killed too?" and the answer could very well be that he was in on it, and he had to die, too.

I can't see why anyone would be confused about Adam getting shot too. He was the receiver every bit as much as Maddison, and was just as involved.


I really doubt that Adam is Mr. Zipp. Maybe he knows who Zipp's kid is, but even then I don't think that makes sense. If Zipp and Adam believed Maddison could help somehow, Adam could have just relayed the information to her in-person without a transmission to trace that would result in them dying to begin with.

[kittenishtrance]

I think Adam was killed because he happened to be there when they found the pigeon. He knew as much info as Maddy did, so he was a threat to whoever Mr Zipp was referring to.

Come to think of it, we all know as much as Maddy and Adam know! We're all targets!

This whole thing right from the beginning has me so freaked out. This is just pretends right? I have asked before, but I've never been satisfied with the answer I have gotten. This is scary.

[TheeBerean]

Of course, we are still left to wonder why Mr. Zipp would have chosen Maddison. He must have known about her somehow.

Strange thought... what if Maddison is Mr. Zipp's kid? Perhaps he was trying to get a message to her but didn't want to come right out and say "I am your father" for various reasons... he thought she would be put in even more danger than she already was... perhaps Warpy/whoever didn't know who the child was at that point (until the 25th)... perhaps he didn't want to freak her out all at once.

Its the only thing that makes sense as to why he chose her... perhaps he had been keeping tabs on her from a distance b/c she was his daughter. He stated in his first email that they were never meant to meet... as in there was a specific reason that they should never meet... not that they probably wouldn't have under normal circumstances.

~TheeBerean

[Avajoy]

I think Adam was killed because he happened to be there when they found the pigeon. He knew as much info as Maddy did, so he was a threat to whoever Mr Zipp was referring to.

Come to think of it, we all know as much as Maddy and Adam know! We're all targets!

This whole thing right from the beginning has me so freaked out. This is just pretends right? I have asked before, but I've never been satisfied with the answer I have gotten. This is scary.

OOG - It has to be "pretend". The shooter in the video shows no kickback whatsoever when he fires, as well as the shot sounds being incongruent. It's truly an ARG. It has to be.

[Avajoy]

Lurker, he says in his first email to Maddy (as well in her description on Myspace and YT) that only a person who really knows her, would know the passwords.

I find it really unlikely that she was hacked.

[TheeBerean]

This whole thing right from the beginning has me so freaked out. This is just pretends right? I have asked before, but I've never been satisfied with the answer I have gotten. This is scary.

[Steps out of character for a minute]
Yes, Kitten... while this game is serious to us... let me assure you that you are perfectly safe. Take comfort--even if that was "for real" to those who know the Father through Jesus, we are given this promise for the wost of times:

Fear not, for I am with you;
Be not dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you,
Yes, I will help you,
I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.

~Dave (TheeBerean)

[Letal89]

Of course, we are still left to wonder why Mr. Zipp would have chosen Maddison. He must have known about her somehow.

Strange thought... what if Maddison is Mr. Zipp's kid? Perhaps he was trying to get a message to her but didn't want to come right out and say "I am your father" for various reasons... he thought she would be put in even more danger than she already was... perhaps Warpy/whoever didn't know who the child was at that point (until the 25th)... perhaps he didn't want to freak her out all at once.

Its the only thing that makes sense as to why he chose her... perhaps he had been keeping tabs on her from a distance b/c she was his daughter. He stated in his first email that they were never meant to meet... as in there was a specific reason that they should never meet... not that they probably wouldn't have under normal circumstances.

~TheeBerean

If Maddison was Mr. Zipp's kid...Why in the world would you endanger your own child's life? If I was in a situation like that I would let my kid live without knowing who their father was.

[TheeBerean]

Lurker, he says in his first email to Maddy (as well in her description on Myspace and YT) that only a person who really knows her, would know the passwords.

I find it really unlikely that she was hacked.

If after 15 days, the Order/Warpy/Whoever was able to find and trace the email from one person to the other, that they would also be able to crack the password codes as well.

~t.b.

[Avajoy]

-hugs to TheeBerean and Kitten-

TheeBerean, you bring up an interesting theory. Maddy's never mentioned her parents, has she?

[Avajoy]

Lurker, he says in his first email to Maddy (as well in her description on Myspace and YT) that only a person who really knows her, would know the passwords.

I find it really unlikely that she was hacked.

If after 15 days, the Order/Warpy/Whoever was able to finde and trace the email from one person to the other, that they would also be able to crack the password codes as well.

~t.b.

Ah, there goes that mini-theory. You're right. I was thinking along the lines of Warpy-hacking or UncleJoe-hacking.

[TheeBerean]

If Maddison was Mr. Zipp's kid...Why in the world would you endanger your own child's life? If I was in a situation like that I would let my kid live without knowing who their father was.

Just a possibility... but he said they "weren't supposed to meet".... Perhaps, something happened and Maddison would soon be in imminent danger. As dangerous as this was, perhaps he thought it the only way to save her in the end.
~t.b.