0180-"What Happened to Us???" [4/26/07]

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:50 pm

LURKER

ericski · Post by **ericski** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:40 pm

Lurker wrote:
Aja wrote:But Juli was right in saying that technically, the kidnapper is not confirmed dead. Daniel says that the watcher shot the kidnapper, not that he was killed.
Well, we also saw his hand resting motionless for what was presumably a considerable period of time. He was definitely presented as dead.

In any case, even were he alive, BD&J getting their memories back wouldn't tell them that. I don't see how it would help them even then, really.

You wrote:I'm so confused.

OK, did Daniel say the guy who was shot in the desert was the one who kidnapped them? And if so, how would he know that, since they don't remember anything until the shot?

I'm getting a headache.
He did say that, yes. I guess he figured it must have been the kidnapper since the guy was chasing them.

yeah, i'd have to say we have as much if not more evidence that that guy is dead than bree's "dad" being dead.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:54 pm

ericski wrote:
Lurker wrote:
Aja wrote:But Juli was right in saying that technically, the kidnapper is not confirmed dead. Daniel says that the watcher shot the kidnapper, not that he was killed.
Well, we also saw his hand resting motionless for what was presumably a considerable period of time. He was definitely presented as dead.

In any case, even were he alive, BD&J getting their memories back wouldn't tell them that. I don't see how it would help them even then, really.
You wrote:OK, did Daniel say the guy who was shot in the desert was the one who kidnapped them? And if so, how would he know that, since they don't remember anything until the shot?
He did say that, yes. I guess he figured it must have been the kidnapper since the guy was chasing them.
yeah, i'd have to say we have as much if not more evidence that that guy is dead than bree's "dad" being dead.

I don't believe he was even presented as dead. A still hand can mean comatose, paralyzed, or even in great pain and unwilling to rock the boat, so to speak. Besides, the video cutaways in that were frequent enough that you couldn't say for sure that the hand didn't move.

There is a lot about that video that still needs resolving. The fact that one person was shot doesn't preclude a multiplicity of people. Especially since it was Alex who said there was only one. The location of that facility should be findable since the kids escaped. We should be looking into what's going on there now. (we could send the on-the-run-guy, dehteraew )

Posting more in a minute. BRB

ericski · Post by **ericski** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:16 pm

Susan wrote:
ericski wrote:
Lurker wrote:Well, we also saw his hand resting motionless for what was presumably a considerable period of time. He was definitely presented as dead.

In any case, even were he alive, BD&J getting their memories back wouldn't tell them that. I don't see how it would help them even then, really. He did say that, yes. I guess he figured it must have been the kidnapper since the guy was chasing them.
yeah, i'd have to say we have as much if not more evidence that that guy is dead than bree's "dad" being dead.
I don't believe he was even presented as dead. A still hand can mean comatose, paralyzed, or even in great pain and unwilling to rock the boat, so to speak. Besides, the video cutaways in that were frequent enough that you couldn't say for sure that the hand didn't move.

There is a lot about that video that still needs resolving. The fact that one person was shot doesn't preclude a multiplicity of people. Especially since it was Alex who said there was only one. The location of that facility should be findable since the kids escaped. We should be looking into what's going on there now. (we could send the on-the-run-guy, dehteraew )

Posting more in a minute. BRB

well, for that matter, this all happened before we knew jonas had a gun. so jonas could have been the shooter.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:20 pm

ericski wrote:well, for that matter, this all happened before we knew jonas had a gun. so jonas could have been the shooter.

Ooh! Nice catch! There is the problem of car location that hasn't been determined...

But I'm willing to overlook that if you are!

Marbella · Post by **Marbella** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:23 pm

Susan, that is SUCH a good point. I just wanted to drop in and say hello. That video confused me, too. I think the plot needs to move on now, since their not being able to figure things out is very frustrating for me. Still, the vid was cute. Very.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:24 pm

I really don't think that's going to happen, but it would be cool if it did.

Marbella · Post by **Marbella** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:26 pm

Uhmmm... yeah... Logic would be nice at this point!

There has been NO "illumination" in the past few vids.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:27 pm

Susan wrote:I don't believe he was even presented as dead. A still hand can mean comatose, paralyzed, or even in great pain and unwilling to rock the boat, so to speak. Besides, the video cutaways in that were frequent enough that you couldn't say for sure that the hand didn't move.

I would still say he was presented as dead from a directoral standpoint. While a lack of movement could certainly mean comatose or paralyzed (it is a possibility, sure), given that gunshots tend to kill more often than they produce either of those effects ... well, you see where I'm going with that. As far as intense pain goes, though, I'd think intense pain would lead to shaking hands, not motionless ones.

By the way, after each fade out/in, the hand was in the same spot, so unless he was perfectly moving the hand back into position between fades, the hand definitely didn't move.

Susan wrote:There is a lot about that video that still needs resolving.

Yes. We still don't even know how they escaped.

Susan wrote:The fact that one person was shot doesn't preclude a multiplicity of people.

Also true.

Susan wrote:The location of that facility should be findable since the kids escaped.

I think it's still unclear as to whether they were being kept in a motel or someplace out in the desert. When they made their escape, they seemed to be in a motel, but then they looked to be in the middle of nowhere while they were running.

ericski wrote:well, for that matter, this all happened before we knew jonas had a gun. so jonas could have been the shooter.

Bree saw the guy who shot the kidnapper, and Daniel was with Jonas when the gunshot went off.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:29 pm

That was boring. Was that London Bridge Is Falling Down?

ooookay.. ready for a new story arc now.

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:30 pm

i thought it was mary had a little lamb.. heh

Marbella · Post by **Marbella** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:38 pm

I've got to go...stuff to do.

Should "Hymn of One" be shortened to "HOO" I wonder?

I wonder also why they haven't been contemplating what's on the dry erase board like we did.

Anyway, I'm tired so I'm less with it than usual.

I want to come back and read comments later.

Bye!

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:40 pm

we already call it HoO..

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:43 pm

OMG I just realized that London Bridge and Mary Had A Little Lamb have almost the same tune. Kind of like The ABC's and Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star.

And I never would have known had it not been for LG15.

alysaface · Post by **alysaface** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:44 pm

LOL!

Lg15... changing lives one useless bit of info at a time!