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If DB doesn't hog the bed, I wonder if the "Great Wall of Jonas" will make another appearance in the future? *taps chin thoughtfully* LMAO.
I was wondering when someone was going to finally come up with this. It was the first thing I thought of! Then I started thinking, how old were Cassie(Casandra) and Alex(Alexandra) in 2000 when we are supposing this was written?gjtko2007 wrote:The numbers (9, 12 and 18 ) I think either refer to:
or B. The ages that Hymn of One girls such as Bree are determined or checked to be fit for "the Ceremony"
or perhaps OTS is the only faction that really knows what's going on. the others have only part of the picture.Coming off of the Elders are apparent subdivisions of the Order/Hymn of One: Deacons, Helpers, Watchers and something called "OTS". The former three have dotted lines connecting them to Elders while "OTS" has a solid line (possibly indicating certainty of connection, as opposed to less sure for the other three)
sure we do. They're guarding them from the resistance, from the zelots...(for what purpose though we have no idea).
Vampire isn't reasonable, but I'm thinking you really didn't mean it. A thread really took the blood angle apart. I'll try to find it and post.Above Ceremony and below Crowley is some circled stuff: Girls? (probably indicating that only girls are right for some reason), Blood underlined many times (it has already been guessed that the Ceremony involves blood in some way, but this is something of proof of that) and then Something in it? (what would be desired in the blood... red blood cells? Does anyone else besides me think of vampires when you read this?!?
see above, and take note of Mindinflight's post(Cassandra, Alexandra, etc.) which some have said were meant Cassie and Alex were alternate candidates. The theory is weird, but not impossible.
At the time this was written, Alex was approximately Bree's age. Maybe a tad older. I think either she washed out of the ceremony or she was fought over similarly to Bree. It is entirely probably that she married to get past the purity thing. I don't think we've seen the last of Aunt Alex! Anyway, the 9,12,18 as ages could mean we're going to get a new girl quite a bit younger than Bree.I tend to lean towards "Cassandra and Alexandra" being Cassie and Auntie Turncoat. Why? I think it would be a little odd to introduce new characters with names similar to previous ones (seen or unseen).
You are interpreting the board in current day. We're leaning toward the board being 6 or 7 years old. It wouldn't have had to do with BDJ back thenHere, OTS represents part of an extremist or deviant branch of the Order which is far less willing to follow the doctrine of "free will" than the main part of the Order. When Bree ran off, the moderate branch sent the Watchers to make sure she didn't fall into extremist hands (like what happened in Vegas) while trying to recover her themselves via OpAphid. After BDJ escaped from the extremist's compound, a Watcher intervened to protect BDJ from extremist recapture.
Alex is conflicted, that is EXTREMELY evident. I think there is more at work than that though. (I'll post on it later)Alex may also have been caught between the free-will moderates and the compulsion extremists. She tried to escape their conflicting demands on her but surrendered to avoid further trouble and release Bree from her obligation. Whether that is true or not is still up in the air, but it makes sense for it to have worked that way.
But Bree was 16-going-on-17 when she was chosen for the ceremony -- not 12 or 18.mincartaugh wrote:I was wondering when someone was going to finally come up with this. It was the first thing I thought of! Then I started thinking, how old were Cassie(Casandra) and Alex(Alexandra) in 2000 when we are supposing this was written?gjtko2007 wrote:The numbers (9, 12 and 18 ) I think either refer to:
or B. The ages that Hymn of One girls such as Bree are determined or checked to be fit for "the Ceremony"
Not the way people have figured out her age in the past. IIRC, based on how old she supposedly was when Jonas's parents disappeared, people figure that she's somewhere in her late 20s-early 30s. Which would mean that seven or eight years ago, she was early-mid 20s.mincartaugh wrote: At the time this was written, Alex was approximately Bree's age. Maybe a tad older.
Like, maybe, Taylor? People have theorized that she's about 13.mincartaugh wrote: Anyway, the 9,12,18 as ages could mean we're going to get a new girl quite a bit younger than Bree.
Agreed. Great job, GJTK.mincartaugh wrote: I really appreciate your post. It has really lent meat to the discussion.
Actually, Tachyon was that girl's younger sister. She was not a candidate for the ceremony.Languorous Lass wrote:You mean The Artist Formerly Known As Tachyon?Kasdeja wrote:No, I didn't take it that way at all. And, if their age didnt' matter...why was the other girl young and also raised the same way as bree? It can't be Alex.
*edit* other girl as in the one whose family disappeared from the commune
Look, I realized you were being extremely rude. I don't know why....Why should you care if I think this series is complete crap now? It was totally unnecessary but I decided to be mature about it and respond with a few laughs. I initially wanted to call you a bitch but then I thought, "No, I will deflect her comment by making it into a joke." So, I believe you are the one who is a bit lost. I don't know who glowe is but, then again, I don't know who you are! And you don't know me! You have no clue about my "sense of humor" nor my intentions behind various posts I make. Show some respect. I wouldn't mind if you posted some random comment about how you might abandon this series. So, please stop your callous remarks.Languorous Lass wrote:Does anybody else think that this chick may be the reincarnation of our old pal glowe? Or at least somebody with a similar "sense of humor"? :roll:Wisi Girl wrote:Ha ha ha ha! Langorous Lass, I will try not to let this happen, okay? Ha ha! I especially love how you used the word "buttocks"!
Alright, I have to go to class. Bye! Have fun scrambling around the internet and such things in order to explain the stuff on the whiteboard!
Okay, okay, sorry . . . I'll behave now. :smt012
house wrote:This series is like the Winchester House. Just keep building, but never finishing...
"Alexandra" isn't just similar to Alex's name; it's her actual name (remember when Daniel called her that in "On The Hot Seat"?).mindinflight wrote:I tend to lean towards "Cassandra and Alexandra" being Cassie and Auntie Turncoat. Why? I think it would be a little odd to introduce new characters with names similar to previous ones (seen or unseen).
Huh? How?robtomorrow wrote:I just thought I'd resurrect Joseph Beuys to help explain the white board for us,
and Riichard Feynman might give us some insight as well,
Oh sorry, I forgot to mention they will be giving a lecture tonight at Goethe Hall at the University of Edinburgh. 8:00 PM sharp!kwicherbichen wrote:
Huh? How?
I didn't read the rest of this thread if that would answer my question. It helps if people explain themselves a little. Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they AREN'T words so come on...
house wrote:This series is like the Winchester House. Just keep building, but never finishing...
