0163- "Communication Terminated" [3/31/07]

spiff5000 · Post by **spiff5000** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:21 pm

(increase the brightness and contrast for a better view)

Note the bullet hole in the upper left corner
The dark item next to it is the motionless hand of the dead Order member

"Communication Terminated"... permanently.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:10 pm

spiff5000 wrote:[image]

(increase the brightness and contrast for a better view)

Note the bullet hole in the upper left corner

From that view, you can't really see if it's like a bullet hole or just a shatter point. If the edge of the lens came down on a rock it may have gotten a section broken out like that.

I'm thinking it fell on a rock and that the bullet hit the Order member. I think a bullet would have probably caused more damage than that to a camera lens too.

spiff5000 wrote:...by the way, how do we even know it was a gunshot, and not a quick blow to the head or something else...

You can hear it at 1:33. Also, there was no one around to hit him (Bree had her back to him).

EternalConfusion · Post by **EternalConfusion** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:24 pm

Ah, I'm glad people are finally.. well no, no one is calming down like I would like lol. Loneylgirl forums are getting scary

And yeah, I agree, we desperately need a new video so we can either keep supporting our theories, throw out bad one, but probablyl never get answers... its almost annoying but im addicted ::sticks in IV::

spiff5000 · Post by **spiff5000** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:01 pm

Lurker wrote:
spiff5000 wrote:[image]

(increase the brightness and contrast for a better view)

Note the bullet hole in the upper left corner
From that view, you can't really see if it's like a bullet hole or just a shatter point. If the edge of the lens came down on a rock it may have gotten a section broken out like that.

I'm thinking it fell on a rock and that the bullet hit the Order member. I think a bullet would have probably caused more damage than that to a camera lens too.

spiff5000 wrote:...by the way, how do we even know it was a gunshot, and not a quick blow to the head or something else...
You can hear it at 1:33. Also, there was no one around to hit him (Bree had her back to him).

Watch the video again. You'll see cracks in the lens originating from the bullet hole as he's falling to the ground.

EDIT: added screenshot

megs229 · Post by **megs229** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:23 pm

** Please pay attention: If the camera was shot then why would the camera person fall to the ground and remain motionless?? Also if the camera were shot, I believe that the bullet would go a bit farther than just the lense and destroy the whole thing. Actually the camera would probably just shatter into many pieces to be honest.

blahblablee · Post by **blahblablee** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:43 pm

megs229 wrote:** Please pay attention: If the camera was shot then why would the camera person fall to the ground and remain motionless?? Also if the camera were shot, I believe that the bullet would go a bit farther than just the lense and destroy the whole thing. Actually the camera would probably just shatter into many pieces to be honest.

Omg that is exactly what I was thinking and about to post...Completely agree...

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:43 pm

well, it could have hit a "hollow" part of the camera, so it just hit the lenses, although there was some "malfunctions" in the last part. but well, this is fiction so, not everything is perfect

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:18 pm

This is insane. It's MONDAY! C'mon guys! This is driving my crazy! o_o

New video! New video! I shall start a mutiny!

kwicherbichen · Post by **kwicherbichen** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:21 pm

Jo_16_2 wrote:well, it could have hit a "hollow" part of the camera, so it just hit the lenses, although there was some "malfunctions" in the last part. but well, this is fiction so, not everything is perfect

Well, I believe that the bullet HIT something on or near the camera that sent strong enough vibrations that even the LENS cracked. There is no way a bullet hit the lens directly unless ... I dunno...

I still believe the shot came from over 500 yards away, as well. If I'm right about that then the "shoes" guy is NOT the shooter.

Or it could be the people who made this video messed up with their physics.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:35 pm

spiff5000 wrote:Watch the video again. You'll see cracks in the lens originating from the bullet hole as he's falling to the ground.

But why would the cracks form during the fall (you can hear the lens shatter at 1:34, after the fall has started and after the gunshot)? If the bullet did it, shouldn't the cracks have appeared when we heard the gunshot and as the fall began?

colorofsakura · Post by **colorofsakura** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:24 pm

Lurker wrote:
spiff5000 wrote:Watch the video again. You'll see cracks in the lens originating from the bullet hole as he's falling to the ground.
But why would the cracks form during the fall (you can hear the lens shatter at 1:34, after the fall has started and after the gunshot)? If the bullet did it, shouldn't the cracks have appeared when we heard the gunshot and as the fall began?

Because the sound of the gunshot itself would travel faster than the bullet. The sound would reach the camera's microphone before the bullet strikes the camera/Order member. That's why you hear the gunshot first before the lens cracks.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:06 pm

colorofsakura wrote:
Lurker wrote:
spiff5000 wrote:Watch the video again. You'll see cracks in the lens originating from the bullet hole as he's falling to the ground.
But why would the cracks form during the fall (you can hear the lens shatter at 1:34, after the fall has started and after the gunshot)? If the bullet did it, shouldn't the cracks have appeared when we heard the gunshot and as the fall began?
Because the sound of the gunshot itself would travel faster than the bullet. The sound would reach the camera's microphone before the bullet strikes the camera/Order member. That's why you hear the gunshot first before the lens cracks.

Isn't it the other way around? Bullets are supposed to travel faster than their sound waves, correct?

In any case, even were the opposite true, that wouldn't explain why the camera was already falling when its lens shattered.

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:22 pm

Actually, it is the other way around. Well, I am not cetain. At the shooting ranges I have been to, the bullets travel faster than the sound. My uncle is very good with a sniper, (almost as good as Brother,) and the bullet hits the target first. I could be wrong, of course. By the way, I am not implying that Brother killed whoever was pursuing Bree! I am almost convinced that it was a watcher. We will see, right?

Wait, maybe we wont't. After all, has the creators ever given us any answers? This series has become like Lost now! (And I have never watched that show.) So many questions left unanswered!

Seriously, why are we all fretting over who shot who when we don't even know what the hell the ceremony is all about in the first place or what the hell the Order is all about!!?!?!

*momentary lapse of frustration due to inept creators*

PixieSailor · Post by **PixieSailor** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:26 pm

Lurker wrote:
colorofsakura wrote:
Lurker wrote: But why would the cracks form during the fall (you can hear the lens shatter at 1:34, after the fall has started and after the gunshot)? If the bullet did it, shouldn't the cracks have appeared when we heard the gunshot and as the fall began?
Because the sound of the gunshot itself would travel faster than the bullet. The sound would reach the camera's microphone before the bullet strikes the camera/Order member. That's why you hear the gunshot first before the lens cracks.
Isn't it the other way around? Bullets are supposed to travel faster than their sound waves, correct?

In any case, even were the opposite true, that wouldn't explain why the camera was already falling when its lens shattered.

I may be wrong, as I DID have to retake Physical science, but if you go faster than the speed of sound, isn't that breaking the sound barrier? And wouldn't that mean that there would be a sonic boom?
*might be COMPLETELY wrong*

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:40 pm

PixieSailor wrote:I may be wrong, as I DID have to retake Physical science, but if you go faster than the speed of sound, isn't that breaking the sound barrier? And wouldn't that mean that there would be a sonic boom?
*might be COMPLETELY wrong*

No, that's correct. Guns produce sonic booms when they fire. As far as it goes, even cracking a whip produces a sonic boom.