the reason tachyon/brother couldnt have saved bd&j

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:54 pm

so... there's speculation that maybe blackshoes is brother and they were in on this whole deal, they've been communicating with bree, whatever. basically, although i would love it, it's highly improbable. the reason:

the creators are using private transmissions here for the first time. people are saying "well, tachyon has broken in before", but really, the creators wouldn't create a rule (only the order can see these) only to have it broken days later. weeks later, i can deal with that. and rules are meant to be broken, but seriously. not that quickly

just a rant. i still think daniel was holding the camera....

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:00 pm

it wasnt daniel, it wasnt the same lens effects, nothing.
and with the brother thing, this dont prove a thing, brother could be in a rush so he wasnt able to collect the body, so he just left it there, and then, someone of the order found out the body of his "partner" and posted the video.

mincartaugh · Post by **mincartaugh** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:11 pm

Daniel could have been behind the camera. He could have taken the camera from the bathroom where there wasn't much light. (no lens effect). While outside, the lens shade protected the lens piece from reflection, causing the odd lens effect. If you notice, when the camera man falls, the lens effect goes away. Lens shade fell off.

tristan · Post by **tristan** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:48 pm

I don't think Daniel took the camera cause in the vid DB goes up to the camera it goes static then the camera shows a picture of the empty bathroom again with an alarm going off. So I think it was just to show DB escaped but we don't know how. And I have no clue on who's shoes those were at the end but I agree it's doubtful they were brother's [for the reason mentioned].

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:49 pm

the same effect was used when they got caught, and it was dark.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:56 pm

You know, when I look at Daniel at the beginning, it doesn't look to me like it's his arm that reaches up. I think it's possible that someone came from behind and knocked Daniel out, disabling the camera at the same time. Shoot, the object looks like it could even be a club.

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:02 pm

Jo_16_2 wrote:it wasnt daniel, it wasnt the same lens effects, nothing.
and with the brother thing, this dont prove a thing, brother could be in a rush so he wasnt able to collect the body, so he just left it there, and then, someone of the order found out the body of his "partner" and posted the video.

That's the first and only reasonable post I've read since they uploaded that last vid.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:08 pm

It cannot be Brother, unless Brother hacked the Order's account.

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:10 pm

juli, read my post again, if it was brother that killed the order guy, he probably left the body there, so other guy from the order picked up the body and uploaded the video.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:14 pm

Jo_16_2 wrote:juli, read my post again, if it was brother that killed the order guy, he probably left the body there, so other guy from the order picked up the body and uploaded the video.

Yeah, that does make sense, Jo. Sorry.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:18 pm

It could be Brother, but I just don't think so. That would be repetitive.

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:20 pm

well, he's the sniper guy

in the army, in a certain squad, there's always a guy that is always in the same "spot" doing the same thing right? why? because he can do it right

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:15 pm

psssssssssssssssst
that wasnt the point
and i've been convinced about the daniel thing, although i do wonder where he went

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:21 pm

probably he didnt knew where he was going either, he just ran for his life

mincartaugh · Post by **mincartaugh** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:26 pm

Still haven't managed to convince me of the Daniel thing. Why would you see Daniel in the bathroom if he's behind the camera!

If it's the Order that restores the camera, what possible reason could they have to waste their time on restoring a camera feed to an empty room when all meep is breaking loose outside?

If it's not Daniel behind the camera, why does Bree not react when he's less than three feet from her? Nobody is that good at sneaking up.

Also, the shadow eye effect goes away when the camera man falls. I've explained this effect at least five times in these posts. Give me a plausible explanation of that before you dismiss it!