The funeral

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:58 am

Toby said he hadn't seen Jonas since the funeral. I assume he's talking about Jonas' parents funeral. Do you have any idea when this funeral took place?

edited, I said Daniel, and I ment Jonas :/ sorry

cittiecait · Post by **cittiecait** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:00 am

i'm assuming 5 years seeing as thats the last time he saw alex. jonas talks about it in one of his first videos but im not sure if he mentions a date/year

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:11 am

Good point about last time he saw Alex.
But Daniel talked about when his parents went missing. Not the funeral

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:12 am

Sami wrote:Good point about last time he saw Alex.
But Daniel talked about when his parents went missing. Not the funeral

daniel? o.O

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:27 am

Sami wrote:Good point about last time he saw Alex.
But Daniel talked about when his parents went missing. Not the funeral

I'm gonna assume u mean Jonas. But good point. That's kinda weird. Would they have a funeral for missing people? Probably not.

Libra · Post by **Libra** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:32 am

Well they went missing at sea, so they were probably presumed dead. So yeah you can still have a funeral, I believe, you just won't be buying a body. The missing can still have gravestones right?

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:40 am

Libra wrote:Well they went missing at sea, so they were probably presumed dead. So yeah you can still have a funeral, I believe, you just won't be buying a body. The missing can still have gravestones right?

I don't know, honestly. I just think it's odd. I mean, I would just wait in hopes that maybe they really were just lost, and would somehow find their way home. Cause what would u say if they did come back...OMG! I thought you were dead so we had a funeral and got you a gravestone. lol. That would be one awkward convo. lol. But, when did his parents die? How old was he? I can't remember. Maybe it makes sense because if they died more than 5 years ago and he saw Alex and Toby 5 years ago for the funeral maybe they waited a couple years to have the funeral.

Point being...I just don't think you'd jump and have a funeral a week later or even a month later after someone went missing.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:51 am

exanimatebylove wrote:
Sami wrote:Good point about last time he saw Alex.
But Daniel talked about when his parents went missing. Not the funeral
I'm gonna assume u mean Jonas. But good point. That's kinda weird. Would they have a funeral for missing people? Probably not.

It's done more often than not when there's reason to believe they're dead (particularly when lost at sea).

The implication is Jonas hadn't seen Toby in 6 years (6 years was how long he'd said they'd been missing back in his Thanksgiving video).

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:11 am

Lurker wrote:
exanimatebylove wrote:
Sami wrote:Good point about last time he saw Alex.
But Daniel talked about when his parents went missing. Not the funeral
I'm gonna assume u mean Jonas. But good point. That's kinda weird. Would they have a funeral for missing people? Probably not.
It's done more often than not when there's reason to believe they're dead (particularly when lost at sea).

The implication is Jonas hadn't seen Toby in 6 years (6 years was how long he'd said they'd been missing back in his Thanksgiving video).

odd. See something is way off here.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:12 am

Sami wrote:Toby said he hadn't seen Daniel since the funeral. I assume he's talking about Jonas' parents funeral. Do you have any idea when this funeral took place?

... you meant Jonas right?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:18 am

exanimatebylove wrote:odd. See something is way off here.

How do you mean? It just sounds like they haven't seen each other in 6 years to me (like Jonas not seeing Alex since then, though I assume he's had contact with her; not sure about Toby).

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:40 am

I thought people hold memorial services for people who go missing rather than funerals.

djmadscribbler · Post by **djmadscribbler** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:03 am

cosmicdancer wrote:I thought people hold memorial services for people who go missing rather than funerals.

I believe that when people go missing their next of kin can declare them dead after a certain time period. I think it's done for any number of reasons:
1. Closure
2. Insurance/Inheritance (say a husband is missing - the wife would have to wait a certain time period before being able to declare him dead and start claim procedures on life insurance, probate of will, etc)

So, if Jonas was his parents next of kin, he could have declared them dead. Except he was a minor at time - so most likely it was the executor of the estate (or whoever had power of attorney - could have been a trustee etc).

Also, I think in this day and age memorial service and funeral are interchangable (at least in the US). It usually has more to do with the famlily and what they want to call it. (Funeral, Memorial, Wake, etc)

colbertnationgirl · Post by **colbertnationgirl** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:40 pm

In my hand hurts he said that he hadn't seen his aunt since he was 13. Since he is nineteen now, that is 6 years.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:15 pm

The timing is right.

lol, @ funeral vs. memorial service. I just posed that same question in another thread.

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