0150- "my hand hurts" [3/10/07]

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:51 pm

Beckers wrote:we may not find out what they names are...but could the initials means something else? Or maybe it's a hidden message... ...I'm gonna work on it.

I want to believe it's significant that not only have they have called our attention to the list once again, they've given us some solid hints we can run with.

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:52 pm

Chelseyrl wrote:
Wisi Girl wrote:I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO "PROVING BREE WRONG" FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT JUST UPLOADED ON YOUTUBE!!! I AM BEHIND BY FIVE VIDEOS! I HAVE A RESTRICTIVE SERVER WHICH IS WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON REVVER. I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON(S) FOR WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON THE MAIN PAGE OF THIS SITE. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THE CREATORS ARE DOING THIS?

I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHTFUL ANSWERS TO MY DILEMMA! PLEASE RESPOND IN THIS THREAD OR THE MORE APPROPRIATE ONE IN "CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS" WHERE I HAVE A MORE DETAILED POST.

P.S. YOU WOULD POST IN ALL CAPS, TOO, IF YOU WERE FIVE VIDEOS BEHIND, ALRIGHT!!! THINK ABOUT IT.
First point: Just because you are five vid's behind, doesn't give you the right to type in all caps. It's just forum ettiquette to not do it. Okay?
Second Point: It's not the creators, it's YouTube. The upload is backed up and from what everyone seems to be saying, it will be for awhile.
Third Point: The main page videos are from Revver. Your restricted server thing... I can't help you with.
(Contact your ISP or whoever is in charge of your server?)

In all fairness, Wisi Girl's been trying to get a response about this from the Creators for over a week. Several of us have given her (I'm assuming Wisi Girl is a female) our best guesses, but that's all we've been able to offer.

Also, I know YouTube has its problems, but even I am a little skeptical at this point of it being YT upload errors or upload congestion (especially since you've got members over there like rickstye getting videos up every day; if it was just a backlog in YT's uploads, one would think it would be hitting people like him too if it was hitting YT's #1 subscribed).

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:52 pm

michiev wrote:
Luminous wrote:
Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"
Yeah, nothing is brought up for no reason, in my opinion everything is relevant.

Exactly! So of course we're gonna Google everything they bring up and then analyze it to death whether it's relevent or not. How else are we ever gonna figure out all these dang clues?!?

There's still so much we don't know, maybe we're all reaching, but

it gets so frustrating at times.

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:53 pm

Ugh great. Now I'm starting to like Jonas more than Daniel. Daniels teeth have been bothering me lately. >.< But like, Jonas just seems so innocent...I just wanna change that. ;] Ya know what I mean?

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:53 pm

I have an aunt myslelf who it 7 years older than me. She is the youngest child of my grandparents. My Aunts Brother (my dad) is twice her age. So it's not as far fetched as you think...and Jonas' parents don't necssarily have to be young.

Oh, hell...my best friend has an aunt who is two years YOUNGER than we are.

Of course, this was a case of adoption. My best friend was adopted as an older child, her parents are only 13-15 years older than we are. Her father was the oldest child...born when his mother was 19. The aunt was born 15 years later. Totally plausible.

watching_watchers · Post by **watching_watchers** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:53 pm

OH yeah and I think Jonas's aunt is like, already missing or whatever.

janesalteredstates · Post by **janesalteredstates** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:59 pm

michiev wrote:
Luminous wrote:
Lurker wrote:I don't think you guys are going to find actual cases of people who match those initials. The Creators aren't going to want to dredge up old crappy memories for those people's friends and families by using their actual names. Similar incidents is close enough.

I doubt any of the names will even go beyond the initials we've already seen.
This is a good point. Yet they know how we are

Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"

Yeah, nothing is brought up for no reason, in my opinion everything is relevant.

That's what I was going to say. Why else would they give us this information?

ShardinsKitten · Post by **ShardinsKitten** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:06 am

janesalteredstates wrote:
michiev wrote:
Luminous wrote: This is a good point. Yet they know how we are

Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"

Yeah, nothing is brought up for no reason, in my opinion everything is relevant.
That's what I was going to say. Why else would they give us this information?

Because we always complain that they don't give us enough info. It doesn't hurt to do research, if nothing else you'll just learn new things, which is never a bad thing. It's doubtful that they would use real names, because it's calling people out, and connecting real people to a fictional setting... which could be a very bad thing, for those people or their families. It's enough reason to not use real names/initials because we do research everything. Just like the creators asking us not to go up to the "cabin" when someone discovered where it was located and what it was. They wouldn't want us bothering people that are not connected. ( I know most of us wouldn't, but someone would be bound to).

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:07 am

bethy wrote:Oh, hell...my best friend has an aunt who is two years YOUNGER than we are.

Of course, this was a case of adoption. My best friend was adopted as an older child, her parents are only 13-15 years older than we are. Her father was the oldest child...born when his mother was 19. The aunt was born 15 years later. Totally plausible.

Yeah, my ex husband was an uncle at birth. His nephew is actually one year older than him. My ex's dad had been married I think 7 times, and had a daughter with his first wife who was only a few years younger than his seventh wife (my ex's mom). So they had kids all around the same time, so it's easy for me to understand how Jonas' aunt can be so close to his age. Also, my mom had all of us kids over a 15 year range, so when my little brother was 4, my oldest sister (who was 19) had her first son....so all this makes sense to me.

Although after reading through all of ^that^ I'm sure alot of it makes no sense to anyone who will read it

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Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:09 am

Here is a link to a (hefty) list of anagrams using the initials (including Jonas's fathers initials)>>

http://boulter.com/anagram/?letters=R.J ... .R.N.S.B.C.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:12 am

Okay, first of all I'm totally confused. What initials? Have I missed something???

Also, the regenerating medical whatever.. I thought of Bree's dad. He worked as some kind of doctor in a lab. (i.e. instead of a doctor's office, Bree has said he worked in a lab)
Which supports my theory that Bree's dad was working as a double agent -- With the Order in order (no pun intended) to infiltrate and save Bree and girls like her, and with the Anti-Order that Jonas's dad is part of (which is the side he was really on all along).

I doubt I'm right, I rarely am. But how freaking cool would that be?

Also, to state the obvious, it seems the Order is responsible for the disappearance of Jonas's parents' death/disappearance/abduction.

Poor kid.

ShardinsKitten · Post by **ShardinsKitten** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:13 am

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Okay, first of all I'm totally confused. What initials? Have I missed something???

Also, the regenerating medical whatever.. I thought of Bree's dad. He worked as some kind of doctor in a lab. (i.e. instead of a doctor's office, Bree has said he worked in a lab)
Which supports my theory that Bree's dad was working as a double agent -- With the Order in order (no pun intended) to infiltrate and save Bree and girls like her, and with the Anti-Order that Jonas's dad is part of (which is the side he was really on all along).

I doubt I'm right, I rarely am. But how freaking cool would that be?

Also, to state the obvious, it seems the Order is responsible for the disappearance of Jonas's parents' death/disappearance/abduction. Poor kid.

the initials listed on the document they found in Jonas's cabin.

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:14 am

ShardinsKitten wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Okay, first of all I'm totally confused. What initials? Have I missed something???

Also, the regenerating medical whatever.. I thought of Bree's dad. He worked as some kind of doctor in a lab. (i.e. instead of a doctor's office, Bree has said he worked in a lab)
Which supports my theory that Bree's dad was working as a double agent -- With the Order in order (no pun intended) to infiltrate and save Bree and girls like her, and with the Anti-Order that Jonas's dad is part of (which is the side he was really on all along).

I doubt I'm right, I rarely am. But how freaking cool would that be?

Also, to state the obvious, it seems the Order is responsible for the disappearance of Jonas's parents' death/disappearance/abduction. Poor kid.
the initials listed on the document they found in Jonas's cabin.

There were more initials than the ones on the cover??

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:15 am

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
ShardinsKitten wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:Okay, first of all I'm totally confused. What initials? Have I missed something???

Also, the regenerating medical whatever.. I thought of Bree's dad. He worked as some kind of doctor in a lab. (i.e. instead of a doctor's office, Bree has said he worked in a lab)
Which supports my theory that Bree's dad was working as a double agent -- With the Order in order (no pun intended) to infiltrate and save Bree and girls like her, and with the Anti-Order that Jonas's dad is part of (which is the side he was really on all along).

I doubt I'm right, I rarely am. But how freaking cool would that be?

Also, to state the obvious, it seems the Order is responsible for the disappearance of Jonas's parents' death/disappearance/abduction. Poor kid.
the initials listed on the document they found in Jonas's cabin.
There were more initials than the ones on the cover??

K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.
and R.J.W. = Jonas's father

JustAnotherLonelyGirl. · Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:15 am

Chelseyrl wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
ShardinsKitten wrote: the initials listed on the document they found in Jonas's cabin.
There were more initials than the ones on the cover??
K.P.H.
D.L.L.
G.T.K.
O.M.A.
M.B.C.
T.C.M.
J.C.N.
P.S.R.
D.T.A.
C.R.N.
S.B.C.
and R.J.W. = Jonas's father

WTF... how did i miss that? where did those come from..????