0150- "my hand hurts" [3/10/07]

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:19 pm

Inigo wrote:Flauta:

Gemma's last name was konstantinopoulos, very greek but I'm sure it was made up by a fan.

Istanbul was once Constantinople...

Any relevance to the series? Haha, most likely not.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:20 pm

Chelseyrl wrote:
Vintage_Angel wrote:Great acting and everything, but I highly doubt that anyone could hold anything right after they get their hand stitched up... I know b/c that happened to me just short of 2 months ago. I couldn't hold anything at all for half a week, and then I had a very weak grip on stuff b/c it'd hurt too much to hold things.

Anyway... freaky thing about the scrap book. And if Jonas was 13 ish when his parents disappeared and his aunt was about his age so that's around 19 then there's only a 6 yr difference between them. Sooo, if that's true then his parents must've been really young...
Not necessarily. Many other users have said that they themselves came from a family where there was a huge difference in age between them and their siblings, which then made them closer to the age of their siblings children.

I have an aunt myslelf who it 7 years older than me. She is the youngest child of my grandparents. My Aunts Brother (my dad) is twice her age. So it's not as far fetched as you think...and Jonas' parents don't necssarily have to be young.

FyodorReader · Post by **FyodorReader** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:23 pm

Beckers wrote:
Chelseyrl wrote:
Vintage_Angel wrote:Great acting and everything, but I highly doubt that anyone could hold anything right after they get their hand stitched up... I know b/c that happened to me just short of 2 months ago. I couldn't hold anything at all for half a week, and then I had a very weak grip on stuff b/c it'd hurt too much to hold things.

Anyway... freaky thing about the scrap book. And if Jonas was 13 ish when his parents disappeared and his aunt was about his age so that's around 19 then there's only a 6 yr difference between them. Sooo, if that's true then his parents must've been really young...
Not necessarily. Many other users have said that they themselves came from a family where there was a huge difference in age between them and their siblings, which then made them closer to the age of their siblings children.
I have an aunt myslelf who it 7 years older than me. She is the youngest child of my grandparents. My Aunts Brother (my dad) is twice her age. So it's not as far fetched as you think...and Jonas' parents don't necssarily have to be young.

haha funny I have the exact same situation with my aunt... we were brought up like sisters... its really not that uncommon

imogene2004 · Post by **imogene2004** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:24 pm

Luminous wrote:Check this out - His initials don't match, but the mysterious circumstances certainly do - Former CIA director William colby dies in boating accident in 1996.

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Do ... lbyCNN.htm

Ya know I was Googling and found that too, but dismissed it because of the initials. I've also been Googling alot of other things, like I did "publisher editor killed" and came up with this about Patty Hearst. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Hearst
Her initials weren't there either, and she actually wasn't killed, she was kidnapped, "brainwashed" and then took part in a bank robbery with her captors. She was caught and sentenced to prison. But her seven-year prison term was eventually commuted by President Jimmy Carter, and Hearst was released from prison on after having served only twenty-two months. She was granted a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, the final day of his presidency. I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, just throwing it out there. Now I'm gonna go read about the Symbionese Liberation Army, her captors, just out of curiousity.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:26 pm

FyodorReader wrote:
Beckers wrote:
Chelseyrl wrote: Not necessarily. Many other users have said that they themselves came from a family where there was a huge difference in age between them and their siblings, which then made them closer to the age of their siblings children.
I have an aunt myslelf who it 7 years older than me. She is the youngest child of my grandparents. My Aunts Brother (my dad) is twice her age. So it's not as far fetched as you think...and Jonas' parents don't necssarily have to be young.

haha funny I have the exact same situation with my aunt... we were brought up like sisters... its really not that uncommon

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:27 pm

imogene2004 wrote:
Luminous wrote:Check this out - His initials don't match, but the mysterious circumstances certainly do - Former CIA director William colby dies in boating accident in 1996.

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Do ... lbyCNN.htm
Ya know I was Googling and found that too, but dismissed it because of the initials. I've also been Googling alot of other things, like I did "publisher editor killed" and came up with this about Patty Hearst. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Hearst
Her initials weren't there either, and she actually wasn't killed, she was kidnapped, "brainwashed" and then took part in a bank robbery with her captors. She was caught and sentenced to prison. But her seven-year prison term was eventually commuted by President Jimmy Carter, and Hearst was released from prison on after having served only twenty-two months. She was granted a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, the final day of his presidency. I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, just throwing it out there. Now I'm gonna go read about the Symbionese Liberation Army, her captors, just out of curiousity.

It's funny that you mention that... when "Miss Me?" came out, I said to myself "Oh god, it's like Patty Hearst except with pizza and spin art." I thought that was kinda amusing

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:31 pm

I don't think you guys are going to find actual cases of people who match those initials. The Creators aren't going to want to dredge up old crappy memories for those people's friends and families by using their actual names. Similar incidents is close enough.

I doubt any of the names will even go beyond the initials we've already seen.

Wisi Girl · Post by **Wisi Girl** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:37 pm

I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO "PROVING BREE WRONG" FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT JUST UPLOADED ON YOUTUBE!!! I AM BEHIND BY FIVE VIDEOS! I HAVE A RESTRICTIVE SERVER WHICH IS WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON REVVER. I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON(S) FOR WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON THE MAIN PAGE OF THIS SITE. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THE CREATORS ARE DOING THIS?

I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHTFUL ANSWERS TO MY DILEMMA! PLEASE RESPOND IN THIS THREAD OR THE MORE APPROPRIATE ONE IN "CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS" WHERE I HAVE A MORE DETAILED POST.

P.S. YOU WOULD POST IN ALL CAPS, TOO, IF YOU WERE FIVE VIDEOS BEHIND, ALRIGHT!!! THINK ABOUT IT.

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:38 pm

imogene2004 wrote:
Luminous wrote:Check this out - His initials don't match, but the mysterious circumstances certainly do - Former CIA director William colby dies in boating accident in 1996.

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Do ... lbyCNN.htm
Ya know I was Googling and found that too, but dismissed it because of the initials. I've also been Googling alot of other things, like I did "publisher editor killed" and came up with this about Patty Hearst. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Hearst
Her initials weren't there either, and she actually wasn't killed, she was kidnapped, "brainwashed" and then took part in a bank robbery with her captors. She was caught and sentenced to prison. But her seven-year prison term was eventually commuted by President Jimmy Carter, and Hearst was released from prison on after having served only twenty-two months. She was granted a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, the final day of his presidency. I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, just throwing it out there. Now I'm gonna go read about the Symbionese Liberation Army, her captors, just out of curiousity.

I found that as well, and didn't think much of it until I found the article on Colby. That started me thinking. Maybe the initials are not exact matches.

Patricia Campbell Hearst - Move the C to the front, change it to the phonetic K and you have K.P.H.

William Egan Colby - Turn the W upside down, convert the E to the similar B and you have M.B.C.

Probably a stretch, but maybe there is a code in here somewhere.

Luminous · Post by **Luminous** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:42 pm

Lurker wrote:I don't think you guys are going to find actual cases of people who match those initials. The Creators aren't going to want to dredge up old crappy memories for those people's friends and families by using their actual names. Similar incidents is close enough.

I doubt any of the names will even go beyond the initials we've already seen.

This is a good point. Yet they know how we are

Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all, they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"

michiev · Post by **michiev** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:45 pm

Luminous wrote:
Lurker wrote:I don't think you guys are going to find actual cases of people who match those initials. The Creators aren't going to want to dredge up old crappy memories for those people's friends and families by using their actual names. Similar incidents is close enough.

I doubt any of the names will even go beyond the initials we've already seen.
This is a good point. Yet they know how we are

Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"

Yeah, nothing is brought up for no reason, in my opinion everything is relevant.

Chelseyrl · Post by **Chelseyrl** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:46 pm

Wisi Girl wrote:I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO "PROVING BREE WRONG" FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT JUST UPLOADED ON YOUTUBE!!! I AM BEHIND BY FIVE VIDEOS! I HAVE A RESTRICTIVE SERVER WHICH IS WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON REVVER. I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON(S) FOR WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON THE MAIN PAGE OF THIS SITE. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THE CREATORS ARE DOING THIS?

I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHTFUL ANSWERS TO MY DILEMMA! PLEASE RESPOND IN THIS THREAD OR THE MORE APPROPRIATE ONE IN "CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS" WHERE I HAVE A MORE DETAILED POST.

P.S. YOU WOULD POST IN ALL CAPS, TOO, IF YOU WERE FIVE VIDEOS BEHIND, ALRIGHT!!! THINK ABOUT IT.

First point: Just because you are five vid's behind, doesn't give you the right to type in all caps. It's just forum ettiquette to not do it. Okay?
Second Point: It's not the creators, it's YouTube. The upload is backed up and from what everyone seems to be saying, it will be for awhile.
Third Point: The main page videos are from Revver. Your restricted server thing... I can't help you with.
(Contact your ISP or whoever is in charge of your server?)

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:46 pm

Luminous wrote:Why would the bring it up if they didn't expect us to investigate it? After all they are the ones who told us to "Investigate the Order"

They could have brought it up for any number of reasons, really (such as to tell us that this anti-Order has its hands in a lot of places just like OpAphid's).

Anyway, I wasn't suggesting that they wouldn't want or expect the fans to research it - or that we shouldn't. Just that none of us should be expecting to find a point-for-point match.

Beckers · Post by **Beckers** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:48 pm

we may not find out what they names are...but could the initials means something else? Or maybe it's a hidden message...

...I'm gonna work on it.

ShardinsKitten · Post by **ShardinsKitten** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:49 pm

Wisi Girl wrote:I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO "PROVING BREE WRONG" FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE IT JUST UPLOADED ON YOUTUBE!!! I AM BEHIND BY FIVE VIDEOS! I HAVE A RESTRICTIVE SERVER WHICH IS WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON REVVER. I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON(S) FOR WHY I CANNOT VIEW THEM ON THE MAIN PAGE OF THIS SITE. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THE CREATORS ARE DOING THIS?

I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHTFUL ANSWERS TO MY DILEMMA! PLEASE RESPOND IN THIS THREAD OR THE MORE APPROPRIATE ONE IN "CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS" WHERE I HAVE A MORE DETAILED POST.

P.S. YOU WOULD POST IN ALL CAPS, TOO, IF YOU WERE FIVE VIDEOS BEHIND, ALRIGHT!!! THINK ABOUT IT.

The ones on this site are provided by revver, using the revver widget. Maybe why you can't see them. I know people have said the back log of the videos onto youtube might be because youtube has been so slow on uploading videos. Other then talking to whoever runs your server I'm not sure you can do anything but wait. I dunno why they would lock revver and not youtube. Or try a library and see if you can watch them on the computer there. But this really does belong in the concerns and complaints.

Anyways I have to agree with lurker, I don't think they would use real names. Well the real initials of the people.

I've also thought that maybe the initials spelled out a message but it would be a huge stretch for the initials to be a message and yet real people at the same time, since Jonas did say he matched up all the initials with the names in the scrapbook.