[Discussion] Semiotics Contents: Image/Symbols

sweetie55 · Post by **sweetie55** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:10 pm

Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:

I don't know what the first symbol is, but I think its pretty clear the second one is infinity (and not an eight). The actual font or style of infinity isn't that common but looks exactly like this one:

it doesn't look exactly like the one on the box.

:snicker: i see a war medal and prairie oysters...[/quote]

Haha I see those too! Yeah don't pay any attention to these images. I did a whole bunch of crap to them. Actually i can't even remember exactly what i did and I really don't think that they would make us jump all those hoops to get those micro scribbles.

Definitely think that the new vid of finding of those papers may help.

psychobunnie · Post by **psychobunnie** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:22 pm

pi... 3/14

o.0

iono. lol maybe someone thought of this, but maybe pi was mentioned as a date?

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:50 pm

12....8......

What about the Greek Cross of the Zodiac?

Color Version of the one above

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:00 pm

bethy wrote:12....8......

What about the Greek Cross of the Zodiac?

Color Version of the one above

I see the 12 there, but where does an 8 come in?

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:06 pm

bethy wrote:12....8......

What about the Greek Cross of the Zodiac?

Color Version of the one above

Numeric positions of the other characters ...

sorry, just got distracted there were siamese twins on the tv it derailed my train of thought. Ok hem hem

... are near the twenties; more than the twelve signs of the zodiac.

Unless of course there is some math involved. At this point it seems anything is possible.

Ever feel like a dog chashing its tail.

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:44 pm

Lurker wrote:
bethy wrote:12....8......

What about the Greek Cross of the Zodiac?

Color Version of the one above
I see the 12 there, but where does an 8 come in?

The center...the circle with 8 sections. The first link refers to it as "The Spirit" I think.

Also, if you go to the main site where I found the first image....I think you'll see some familiar symbols and terms: http://www.the-equinox.org/

Of course...I didn't know that when I found the image. I was actually researching the different types of crosses used in Eastern Orthodox religions and I stumbled upon it.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:52 pm

What some more specutlation I have a steaming pile of it:

Symbol1 top left

Chapter 1 Book of Law

Tau postition 19

Stanza 19
O azure-lidded woman, bend upon them!

Phi postition 21

Stanza 21
With the God & the Adorer I am nothing: they do not see me. They are as upon the

ect..

Not feeling it right. Me either

So I started over. Chapter 1 Book of the Law

Combined postion values of the letters in the ligitures 40, 29, 15

Stanza 15
Now ye shall know that the chosen priest & apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Woman is all power given. They shall gather my children into their fold: they shall bring the glory of the stars into the hearts of men.

Stanza 29
For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.

Stanza 40
Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit (Jonas?), and the Lover(Bree?), and the man of Earth(Daniel?). Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

It probably means nothing but it gave me a little chill.

Nieriel.Manwathiel · Post by **Nieriel.Manwathiel** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:10 pm

omg; the stanza 40 is freakin me out, man!!!

what context is it in? could its context be relevant?

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:43 pm

You can take a look at the complete text of the book at http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm. Very little of the stanzas around stanza 40 refer to it.

Stanza 20 (for the watcher symbol)
The key of the rituals is in the secret word which I have given unto him.

Again I am warning that it could mean nothing just sharing what I came across that's all. The other positions could also point to stanzas in other chapters (if this is valid) but there should be some sort of pattern. Still it seemed worth sharing.

bethy · Post by **bethy** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:00 pm

http://www.avalonia.co.uk/magick/PQ_liber_al.htm

I love Google.

ignatzmouse · Post by **ignatzmouse** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:38 am

giddeanx wrote:You can take a look at the complete text of the book at http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm. Very little of the stanzas around stanza 40 refer to it.

Stanza 20 (for the watcher symbol)
The key of the rituals is in the secret word which I have given unto him.

Again I am warning that it could mean nothing just sharing what I came across that's all. The other positions could also point to stanzas in other chapters (if this is valid) but there should be some sort of pattern. Still it seemed worth sharing.

Possibilities for Textual Critics Anonymous:

Stanza 15 (Theta + Eta)
Now ye shall know that the chosen priest & apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Woman is all power given. They shall gather my children into their fold: they shall bring the glory of the stars into the hearts of men.

Stanza 21 (Theta + Nu)
With the God & the Adorer I am nothing: they do not see me. They are as upon the earth; I am Heaven, and there is no other God than me, and my lord Hadit.

Stanza 24 (Theta + Pi)
I am Nuit, and my word is six and fifty.

Note of these are making me thing "ooh yes". I'd expect to see something about Will, if free will is the original schism between the Order and TCA.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:23 pm

ignatzmouse wrote: Stanza 24 (Theta + Pi)
I am Nuit, and my word is six and fifty.

Note of these are making me thing "ooh yes". I'd expect to see something about Will, if free will is the original schism between the Order and TCA.

Well 56 does lead to.

Stanza 56.
Expect him not from the East, nor from the West; for from no expected house cometh that child. Aum! All words are sacred and all prophets true; save only that they understand a little; solve the first half of the equation, leave the second unattacked. But thou hast all in the clear light, and some, though not all, in the dark.

EdWont · Post by **EdWont** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:16 pm

I wrote Tachyon with:

"Hello T,
Just wondering if we're on the right track with deciphering the ligatures by looking into the Phoenician origins (like Pi being a symbol for speech). I hope for a response but I'm not holding my breath.
Best,
EdWont

p.s. - my girl and I just joined a bowling league. I'm sorry to say that your score puts mine to shame. Oh well. (more)"

She responded with:

"It's an eta, not a pi...

And congratulations on joining a a bowling league...clearly you've reached a comfortable lull in the relationship. LOL.

xoxox,

T"

Can I just say that I'm floating right now? Talk about excitement! 300 comes out today AND I get a message from Tachyon? What a rush! The Beatles never felt this high.

Anyhow, I owe everyone an apology. She sent the message a week ago, but I didn't check into my youtube account until now. I'm sorry for the time lost in this matter. In the future, I'll be more vigil. Good luck, everyone. Oh...I also posted this in Tachyon e-mails. I brought it over here because I felt it played directly into the conversation here.
Best,
EdWont

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:25 pm

$\:D/$
Theta Eta or Eta Theta is the winner.

You should have asked what all the symbols were

EdWont · Post by **EdWont** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:29 pm

I checked it again because I was so excited and it turns out that she did send it today. So I withdraw my apology. Haha.

She didn't answer the actual question, sadly. But at least it cleared up the debate.

Lonelygirl15

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