Daniel and Jonas - Who's fault is this angery?

[StiffySondremann]

I get freaked out by knowing the fact that Jonas and Daniel are hating eachother! My opinion is that both of them has a little guilt in this.

Jonas' starting to take Bree out on a walk. That's stupid Jonas! Don't bother Bree and Daniel's relationship!

As for Daniel. Don't get TO jealous. It's to damn LAME to call Jonas a peace of shit!

f**k you both! (For the moment)

[Kasdeja]

I think it's all pretty natural behavior...it was inevitable that someone would start feeling left out since the three of them have been stuck together for so long. Daniel's feelings for Bree just augmented that.

[Ziola]

heh. It makes me laugh a little...all I can think of is when I'm planning my sons birthday parties, I always make sure we have an even number, so no one feels left out

[Kasdeja]

It was an enduring problem for me and my cousins growing up. Three girls a year apart...

[Sami]

I agree, Stiffysondremann. I think it's boring. More Order ass kicking action and less childish fighting.
They can not turn on eachother

[Kasdeja]

Ah, maybe a 'house divided' is leading to more drama.

[nobackspacebutton]

I think it's all pretty natural behavior...it was inevitable that someone would start feeling left out since the three of them have been stuck together for so long. Daniel's feelings for Bree just augmented that.

agreed ^_^

[Klaatu]

Bree is acting just like any other15/16 year old girl who is just learning she is pretty would probably act and probably how they will act the rest of their lives she is learning that "oys are dumb and from now on she will always be looking for the "bigger, better deal"

I wouldn't worry about it too much though "Stiffy". I don't think is Joan is not playing on the same team as DB and Smee. Sooner or later he'll "come out" and Smee will learn another lesson in life and love.

[longlostposter]

Bree is acting just like any other15/16 year old girl who is just learning she is pretty would probably act and probably how they will act the rest of their lives she is learning that "oys are dumb and from now on she will always be looking for the "bigger, better deal"

I wouldn't worry about it too much though "Stiffy". I don't think is Joan is not playing on the same team as DB and Smee. Sooner or later he'll "come out" and Smee will learn another lesson in life and love.

Just for the record, she's 17.

[cosmicdancer]

I get freaked out by knowing the fact that Jonas and Daniel are hating eachother! My opinion is that both of them has a little guilt in this.

Jonas' starting to take Bree out on a walk. That's stupid Jonas! Don't bother Bree and Daniel's relationship!

As for Daniel. Don't get TO jealous. It's to damn LAME to call Jonas a peace of shit!

f**k you both! (For the moment)

Bree and Daniel don't have a romantic relationship, if that's what you're referring to. Daniel likes Bree but that isn't a relationship, that's a crush.
If you're talking friendship, I think it's stupid that Jonas and Bree shouldn't be able to be friends. Boy/girl (or girl/girl, or boy/boy, whatever the context, in this case boy/girl) friendships don't always equal romantic involvement.

I understand if Daniels upset at them leaving him alone in the house. Or if he's jealous about Jonas. But he seems to be holding a much bigger grudge than Jonas. It's time to grow up and put minor quarrels behind them considering the situation they're in.

[longlostposter]

Bree and Daniel don't have a romantic relationship, if that's what you're referring to. Daniel likes Bree but that isn't a relationship, that's a crush.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here, Cosmic. Daniel is deeply, deeply in love with Bree. That look on his face in the last video whan Bree asks him why he is upset she went hiking with Jonas speaks volumes. Granted, Bree doesn't feel the same way, and her absolute inability to see Daniel's hurt and grief is horrific.

I understand if Daniels upset at them leaving him alone in the house. Or if he's jealous about Jonas. But he seems to be holding a much bigger grudge than Jonas. It's time to grow up and put minor quarrels behind them considering the situation they're in.

This is more than some silly grudge, this is the crushing of a treasured and long-sought dream. It's finally getting through his head that he'll never have her, and he is in despair. I think you underestimate the strength of Daniel's love for Bree, and how distressed he is. It's easy to say 'just get over it', but it's not that easily done.

One of two things is going to happen...either Daniel starts putting up defenses, and becomes mean, or he begins to self-destruct. He's got it for Bree too bad now to be ready to move on. If he does, I'll be disappointed with the writers. Daniel is not going to 'just put on a happy face' at this point.

EDIT: Spelling, and add last line.

[Kanazaka]

Pure speculation, but it would be cool if Daniel simultaneously figures out Tachyon's coded message while investigating Jonas to expose him as another double agent (Gemma being the first). I agree that Jonas is showing a major lack of sensitivity, and perhaps Bree is, too. Could it be because they are both blinded by their attraction to each other and they don't realize it? I'm siding with Daniel and whatever he decides to do, as long as he doesn't completely alienate himself from the trio and jeopardize their fight against the Order.

[cosmicdancer]

Bree and Daniel don't have a romantic relationship, if that's what you're referring to. Daniel likes Bree but that isn't a relationship, that's a crush.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here, Cosmic. Daniel is deeply, deeply in love with Bree. That look on his face in the last video whan Bree asks him why he is upset she went hiking with Jonas speaks volumes. Granted, Bree doesn't feel the same way, and her absolute inability to see Daniel's hurt and grief is horrific.

I understand if Daniels upset at them leaving him alone in the house. Or if he's jealous about Jonas. But he seems to be holding a much bigger grudge than Jonas. It's time to grow up and put minor quarrels behind them considering the situation they're in.

This is more than some silly grudge, this is the crushing of a treasured and long-sought dream. It's finally getting through his head that he'll never have her, and he is in despair. I think you underestimate the strength of Daniel's love for Bree, and how distressed he is. It's easy to say 'just get over it', but it's not that easily done.

One of two things is going to happen...either Daniel starts putting up defenses, and becomes mean, or he begins to self-destruct. He's got it for Bree too bad now to be ready to move on. If he does, I'll be disappointed with the writers. Daniel is not going to 'just put on a happy face' at this point.

EDIT: Spelling, and add last line.

I'm not saying he's not in love with Bree, but they do not have a romantic relationship because Bree doesn't reciprocate those feelings apparently. Crush probably wasn't an appropriate word. I agree with the statement about the look in the last video. It's obvious he's hurting.

Granted, there is still no proof that Jonas has a crush on Bree. I know the feeling of having your heart broken, believe me. On massive levels. And maybe he's taking it out through anger at Jonas because it is, in fact, easier to be angry than it is to allow yourself to experience the hurt of the loss. But regardless, he really shouldn't allow the reality of his situation with Bree to intertwine with their situation with the Order. It will lead to carelessness.

You have to attempt to force yourself to function or else heartache will destroy you.

This is not a functional 'trio'. They need to be able to function, even if they're not happy about it, or they're leaving themselves open like sores.

I can understand taking a little time to themselves if they have it, but if something happens they need to be able to let go of their grudges. Daniel can't take forever on this. Even if he 'hates' Jonas now (which I think is ridiculous) they need to agree to disagree (going with the assumption that Jonas has good intentions which at this point may or may not be true) so they are able to work together if something bad happens.

I agree that Jonas is showing a major lack of sensitivity, and perhaps Bree is, too.

I think Jonas appears to be more upset that Daniel doesn't trust him than anything. Bree on the other hand is clueless.

as long as he doesn't completely alienate himself from the trio and jeopardize their fight against the Order.

That's what I'm worried about.

[Sami]

Sondre, when you wake up tommorow morning and see the new vid, you're gonna be a happy boy