[PUZZLE][SOLVED] Semiotics 2/22/07

McPackage · Post by **McPackage** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:33 am

Another way to interpret the first line, "where it all started"... Perhaps the package is for Bree. Bree has hinted that she wants to be like Tachyon some day, so Tachy gives her a package, saying "These books were inspirational to me as a child, which had a big influence on what I am today. These are where it all started for me."

It could follow that the books are a red herring, either deliberately or not. Everything to determine the password could very well be on the card itself, and the books were a bonus.

Regardless, I think the package is for Bree, not Daniel.

Ruberic · Post by **Ruberic** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:33 am

The book being read by Daniel in Bree's latest dialogue is Clue in the Diary.

Raybolt swindles inventor families...like the Swiss family featured in the book...out of their patents for inventions. He sets a fire to a house using an invention, to attempt to swindle another family.

There is a subplot about mailfraud.

This book started as Nancy and friends are driving back from a carnival.

windsong · Post by **windsong** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:34 am

I can't help but get the feeling that the "haiku" is a word play.
Saying "where it all starts" maybe means that we should look for the words 'it all' somewhere and then after 'it all' but before the word 'you' there will be the clue we are looking for. But I dont know where we would be looking for it all and this may be way too much of a stretch. Does anyone else have any input?

imagin · Post by **imagin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:36 am

Ziola wrote:I've got a screencap of all 5 book spines from when he was opening the package...I don't have any good programs to clean it up, but if someone wants me to post it, let me know.

If it's a better picture then the one previously posted, I'd like to see it. I have a couple of photography programs that might let me do something with it... though no guarantees.

I'd like one of the frame or two later, where the corners and edges of the lower books can be seen, if you have found an easy way to get screen caps...

I can't seem to get anything to let me screen cap these... Windows apparently blocks print screen on some types of programs, which I wasn't aware of until tonight.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:36 am

Hope that will be helpful...

junetown · Post by **junetown** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:38 am

imagin wrote:
Ziola wrote:I've got a screencap of all 5 book spines from when he was opening the package...I don't have any good programs to clean it up, but if someone wants me to post it, let me know.
If it's a better picture then the one previously posted, I'd like to see it. I have a couple of photography programs that might let me do something with it... though no guarantees.

I'd like one of the frame or two later, where the corners and edges of the lower books can be seen, if you have found an easy way to get screen caps...

I can't seem to get anything to let me screen cap these... Windows apparently blocks print screen on some types of programs, which I wasn't aware of until tonight.

if you want to screen cap the video, just hit print screen then ctrl+c and paste it into paint. it's probably going to be the only thing that works.

imagin · Post by **imagin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:40 am

It may be irrelevant who the package was for, since Tach and Brother would expect them to act as a team.

And the whole idea of sybiotics is that it wouldn't matter who it was, them, us, Fred Flintstone... it would be understood.

I'm thinking we'll feel quite foolish once we figure this out.

sofly718 · Post by **sofly718** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:40 am

dont forget that Haiku backwards is Ukiah

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:41 am

More free form association...my apologies guys...

What I remember about Nancy Drew:

titian haired
drives a convertible
father is an attorney
mother is dead
Hannah Gruen is the housekeeper
boyfriend is Ned
best friends are Bess and Jo (?)
amatuer detective

Balmung · Post by **Balmung** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:42 am

ziola, unfortunately, you're not gonna get anything out of that screenshot, except maybe guessing, going by the word lengths.

i have a little bit better way of screen capping, i might be able to get a higher def. version. lemme get right back on that.

tiltingwindward · Post by **tiltingwindward** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:48 am

I'm beginning to think that we really need to have someone sit down and read these books (the ones we know the titles for, at least), in search of a "subtle clue." If I had to guess, I would say that maybe Nancy overlooks a clue and then has to solve it (hence the subtlety), and that the clue itself, or the way she solves it, will help us with our own mystery.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the books right now. Is there anyone (imagin, I'm kind of looking at you) who could do some quick reading? I think we should start with "The Clue in the Diary," since that's the one Daniel was reading.

Ruberic · Post by **Ruberic** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:48 am

Subtle Clue:

tachyon admits that the clue she gives is a slight nudge...but is not so simple that it is obvious.

I Drew:

"I" can mean many things. 1 in Roman numerals. On a roman numeral clock, I stands for the hour of 1:00 OR for 5 minutes past the hour if the minute hand rests, OR, for 5 seconds past the hour if the second hand rests. Chapter I, or Page I in a book. First in a series...etc. ALSO: Drew has many meanings: Name; to have drawn (picture or water)

XXXXXXXXXXX YYY

Odd Combination. 14 total letters. 11 X, 3 Y. Or x11 y3. 14 total letters, but they don't intermix or touch. (XXyy or XxYy as before)

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:49 am

Since chosen got different results, how about CHOSENONE. That's where it all started...when Bree was chosen for the ceremony.

EDIT: I'm not trying with the program anymore, because I don't know how to use it.

Michelle · Post by **Michelle** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:51 am

Does anyone own the first Nancy Drew book? I wish I did because I'd like to see whats in Chapter 11, paragraph/line 3, or vice versa.. and also if the beginning of the book says "it all ........... you", and what words are in between.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:52 am

Also, Crowley's belief in "divine destiny" could be tied to that.

The book is about Crowley's will ...to Crowely, will=divine destiny, Nuit's will, God's will, etc.