Poisoning Pigeons in the Park...

JerseyJohnny · Post by **JerseyJohnny** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:02 pm

I hate to ruin anyone's fantasy about those being "ravens" in the park in the video, but they were not.

They are Crows. And yes, there is a difference between a Crow and a Raven.

bosquelito · Post by **bosquelito** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:13 pm

Crow/Rook's Wisdom Includes:

* Guardian of the place before existence
* Ability to move in space and time
* Honoring ancestors
* Carrier of souls from darkness into light
* Working without fear in darkness
* Guidance while working in shadow
* Moves freely in the void
* Understands all things related to ethics
* Shapeshifter

ravensgrace · Post by **ravensgrace** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:30 pm

JerseyJohnny wrote:I hate to ruin anyone's fantasy about those being "ravens" in the park in the video, but they were not.

They are Crows. And yes, there is a difference between a Crow and a Raven.

Everyone can judge for themselves. I believe you may be correct, but I'm not an expert on the matter.

A raven weighs about four times that of a crow.
A crow averages around 17in length, and a raven about 24-27in.
A crow has a wing span around 2.5 feet, while ravens are about 3.5-4 feet.
A raven has pointed wings, while a crow has a more blunt and splayed wing tips.
A crow has a fan-shaped tail (squared-off), while raven tails are long and wege-shaped.
A raven has a bigger, more powerful bill, and it is curved
A crow has a more-or-less flat pointed bill.
A raven has a tuft of hairs atop it's bill, which is absent on crows.