[I in APHID] Brother in "Cowboy" vid?

surrealisticpill · Post by **surrealisticpill** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:04 am

Could this be Brother's SUV in the "Cowboy" video?

Here is the SUV from Gemma Part V

Maybe Brother is following Bree and Jonas to protect them or to find Daniel. If so, could it have been Brother who distracted the Cowboy ("you forget this?") so Jonas had enough time to get back to the car?

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:03 am

Ahhhh!

Great catch Pill! It matches Luv's description and everything. Brother to the rescue ^_^

Lorelei · Post by **Lorelei** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:09 am

No.
The top one is a Range Rover, the bottom an Expedition.
He could have multiple cars, though, like Jonas.

surrealisticpill · Post by **surrealisticpill** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:17 am

Lorelei wrote:No.
The top one is a Range Rover, the bottom an Expedition.
He could have multiple cars, though, like Jonas.

How can you tell it's a Range Rover?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:18 am

Lorelei wrote:No.
The top one is a Range Rover, the bottom an Expedition.
He could have multiple cars, though, like Jonas.

yup...the back of the SUV is a different shape. The "Cowboy" one has a sloped window, the Gemma? [Part V] doesn't.

I wrote something in the other thread about the cowboy, and I want you to consider it though. Why would the drop be made by the actor??? I've been wondering this since seeing cowboy. I've been wondering if the man that Luv saw was just the PM panicking. He knew he was being chased down by a player, so he had to do something, and that is what he did. Played Brother. Its sloppy, but possible.

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:21 am

Killthesmiley wrote:
Lorelei wrote:No.
The top one is a Range Rover, the bottom an Expedition.
He could have multiple cars, though, like Jonas.
yup...the back of the SUV is a different shape. The "Cowboy" one has a sloped window, the Gemma? [Part V] doesn't.

I wrote something in the other thread about the cowboy, and I want you to consider it though. Why would the drop be made by the actor??? I've been wondering this since seeing cowboy. I've been wondering if the man that Luv saw was just the PM panicking. He knew he was being chased down by a player, so he had to do something, and that is what he did. Played Brother. Its sloppy, but possible.

If the actor hadn't been cast and now we have an image of him why not just cast the PM? Hell the voice needs to fit, right?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:29 am

tigerlilylynn wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:
Lorelei wrote:No.
The top one is a Range Rover, the bottom an Expedition.
He could have multiple cars, though, like Jonas.
yup...the back of the SUV is a different shape. The "Cowboy" one has a sloped window, the Gemma? [Part V] doesn't.

I wrote something in the other thread about the cowboy, and I want you to consider it though. Why would the drop be made by the actor??? I've been wondering this since seeing cowboy. I've been wondering if the man that Luv saw was just the PM panicking. He knew he was being chased down by a player, so he had to do something, and that is what he did. Played Brother. Its sloppy, but possible.
If the actor hadn't been cast and now we have an image of him why not just cast the PM? Hell the voice needs to fit, right?

Well yes, but it was sloppy. But if a drop is meant to be dropped, and not given to the pickup, they probably would assume that they were safe.

its a thought.

tigerlilylynn · Post by **tigerlilylynn** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:32 am

Killthesmiley wrote:
tigerlilylynn wrote:If the actor hadn't been cast and now we have an image of him why not just cast the PM? Hell the voice needs to fit, right?
Well yes, but it was sloppy. But if a drop is meant to be dropped, and not given to the pickup, they probably would assume that they were safe.

its a thought.

What I mean is that the drop was meant to be clean. Then it wasn't and we all have a concept of not only his voice but face and build. Now it's casting time and what do they have to do? Stay consistent. So they could hunt down a similar actor...or, ya know, not. Just cast who you have. Like Lucy, Gemma and Nikki are all friends of friends and what not.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:50 am

tigerlilylynn wrote:
Killthesmiley wrote:
tigerlilylynn wrote: True enough. Your making and excellent point.

imagin · Post by **imagin** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:04 am

What about this rig?

This vehicle is shown after Jonas heads for the van. Neither it or the vehicle in front of it are shown in previous shots, though the red car is shown, and is still barely visible behind the van and the car pointing to the right.

Looks similar to Bro's rig to me... but I'll let you guys figure it out. I'm not a car person.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:08 am

theres no slope there, but to me the color looks darker. But then again that could be the coloring of the video
so thats my 2 cents.

cynicar · Post by **cynicar** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:23 am

The thing is, the angle on the shot of the Gemma V vid makes in nearly impossible to tell whether or not there is a slope on the window. It's shot nearly straight behind and since windows taper to the top anyways, our minds are likely to interpret them as flat when there could be a slant.

I think the SUV's are a little too similar to discount the theory so soundly.

Good eye Pill. I never would have caught that.

FallingIntoSin · Post by **FallingIntoSin** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:51 am

cynicar wrote:The thing is, the angle on the shot of the Gemma V vid makes in nearly impossible to tell whether or not there is a slope on the window. It's shot nearly straight behind and since windows taper to the top anyways, our minds are likely to interpret them as flat when there could be a slant.

I think the SUV's are a little too similar to discount the theory so soundly.

Good eye Pill. I never would have caught that.

I agree. Also, they could of used different vehicles that look alike depending on where they were shooting and who the vehicle belongs to.

surrealisticpill · Post by **surrealisticpill** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:09 pm

What about the off-screen voice? Do you think it could be Brother's?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:21 pm

surrealisticpill wrote:What about the off-screen voice? Do you think it could be Brother's?

thats another thing I've been thinking about

as for the sloping windshield, you can tell from the rear-view. If you recall highschool art, there is a thing called perspective. If the windshield was sloping the windshield would appear in a upside down v-shape ( / \ ) like that<<< (ignoring the shape of the cab on the SUV). If it wasn't sloping, or sloping just slightly the lines would appear somewhat staight.
In Cowboy, the SUV pointed out slope from the rear would be noticable. THe lines would definately not be straight. The lines on the SUV in Gemma? [Part V] appear to be pretty straight.