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User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-10-16T15:24:06Z

Nobackspacebutton:

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== BA Tells Lies. ==
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts Monday through Friday, 8AM - 4PM EST. She is mostly known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives not only of suspicious posters but also of long time posters that could possible be 'plants' by the Order. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
::BA stopped being a member at the forum when things turned twisted
::::but BA kept watching.

Does anyone see her?

BA is still watching.

== About Her ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 

== What Ever Happened to That Girl BA? ==

BA is Gone.

BA is still watching.

{{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox NBR}}{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}
{{Userbox L'Care}}

Talk:Nice Try

2007-10-16T15:20:46Z

Nobackspacebutton:

== 0:14 Sound ==

Did anyone else notice that at this point in the video, there is either a moaning or a voice saying "hello?"...or "help"??? --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 10:17, 16 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Nice Try

2007-10-16T15:17:47Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* 0:14 Sound */

== 0:14 Sound ==

Did anyone else notice that at this point in the video, there is either a moaning or a voice saying "hello?" --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 10:17, 16 October 2007 (CDT)

I'm Done

2007-08-16T17:21:33Z

Nobackspacebutton:

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| description = I can't do this anymore. I'm sorry.
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| location = [[Motels|A motel]], [[Hiking trails#The Swimming Hole|The swimming hole]], [[Bree's bedroom|Bree's house]]
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'''{{PAGENAME}}''' is the two-hundred sixty-third video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]]. It is also the seventh video of season two.

==Transcript==
(''Music plays and footage of Jonas is seen. He is in a motel room watching an [[Skateboarding|old video]] of himself and [[Bree]].'')

'''Jonas:''' Why didn't you trust us? Why didn't--we had a plan! We had a plan and we could have saved you. We could have saved you. You know what, I--you know what, I am done! I am done! (''gets on his knees and looks into the camera'') I am not doing this--I am not doing this anymore. I'm not wasting another second of my life on any of these girls. They might be out there. They might not be. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I love you, Bree, and I'm sorry. I'm so sorry but I got to let you go. I have to let you go. I gotta say goodbye. I'm so sorry.

==Notes==
*It is unclear how Jonas was able to find [[Hiking trails#The Swimming Hole|the swimming hole]] or [[Bree's bedroom|Bree's house]], as he never joined Bree when she went to either of these places.
*Jonas appears to be [[inebriated]] in this video.
*It is unclear who the man in the white shorts is, although fans have speculated that he is the new owner of the [[Bree|Avery]] house.
*A [[helicopter]] is seen in this video.
*The video Jonas was watching was [[Skateboarding]].
*From this video it is evident that Jonas is having the most difficult time managing the emotional wake after Bree's death. Though, due to his dramatic reactions to nearly all advancements in the plot, this is in no way surprising.
* This is the first time that Jonas has been seen talking since Bree's death.
* Some fans have speculated that they too are done with watching LG now that the story has concluded, while others speculate that all characters saying that they are finished with vlogging will actually lead up to a climax where all characters decide to return and help KateModern.

Talk:I'm Done

2007-08-16T17:20:24Z

Nobackspacebutton:

The acting on this was... amazing. Am I the only one who cried? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 00:10, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
:Oh no. I cried. :( --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::You might as well say I cried -- There was no spillage, but I watered up SO FAST. I'm a sap, really . . . --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:26, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

He can't give up yet. :(

Man this video was so sad. -BA (--[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 12:20, 16 August 2007 (CDT))

Anyone think he sounded like John Travolta in this video? -PB

Talk:A Message From Me

2007-08-16T17:19:50Z

Nobackspacebutton:

== Toenails being Painted ==

Definately reminds me of when Bree's helper painted her fingernails. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 12:19, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Talk:A New Lead

2007-06-19T11:17:06Z

Nobackspacebutton:

== Helicopters ==

Remember when the helicopters weren't really a bad thing? It was thought the helicopters were to be of the watchers, who at the time weren't evil---or it belonged to Tachyon or Brother...who were always treading behind. This would be a perfect time for the Creatortrons bring back Tachyon and Brother. Show them picking Bree up. ;) --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 06:17, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

==Bar Codes==
What all can be done onto barcodes? For real. --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
:Think of your social security number as a barcode.--[[user:72.204.90.31|72.204.90.31]]
::Whoever worked out what all the products used in the montage are has WAY too much time! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 03:53, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

== upsidown ==

when you're up with the order you're upsidown?[http://www.midnightmoonchild.com/images/hangman.gif] any ideas what this could mean? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 18 2007

==editing question==
I added the (possibly very ridiculous and unnecessary) section about all the barcodes were in Taylor's montage. I made the word "Arrowhead" a link (even though a page doesn't exist with that name) because there was some talk in the forum after the last video about where Bree could be. The names Arrowhead, Arrowbear, and Big Bear came up, so I thought this coincidince was worth noting. So, can I put in a link to the forum in this spot? (And how exactly do I do that?) Here's the link to the post: the one I was referring to is from Shaneener and it's third from the bottom of the page.
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11452&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=arrowhead&start=255
--[[User:Katiej88|Katiej88]] 01:36, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Going Home

2007-06-16T11:21:44Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Lying */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 22:52, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Lying ==

She keeps looking down to the left...which most likely means that she doesn't mean what she is saying. Hopefully Jonas will get to her first. I'm sure he knows exactly where she is. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 06:21, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

== Cell phone ==

So, I guess this was uploaded from her cell phone (hence the minimal editing and crap-ish sound; plus, the monologue just implies that it was her cell phone). Is this note-worthy? --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 23:16, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
:Cell phones are getting better and better vid quality. Perhaps like the iPhone?? :runs away, laughing insanely, playing a kazoo: :LOL: --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
::Not the kazoo! Anything but those damn things Dx - DL
:::Dammit, not another one! *Picks up a cricket paddle*

== Is that Sarah's Hoodie ==

::It looks like the hoodie that Sarah was wearing in "No Trespassing." Is Bree a dirty clothing thief :O!
::more importantly, does a hoodie count as a hat? probably not. but it is interesting, right? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 16 2007

Talk:Going Home

2007-06-16T11:21:38Z

Nobackspacebutton:

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 22:52, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Lying ==

She keeps looking down to the left...which most likely means that she doesn't mean what she is saying. Hopefully Jonas will get to her first. I'm sure he knows exactly where she is.

== Cell phone ==

So, I guess this was uploaded from her cell phone (hence the minimal editing and crap-ish sound; plus, the monologue just implies that it was her cell phone). Is this note-worthy? --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 23:16, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
:Cell phones are getting better and better vid quality. Perhaps like the iPhone?? :runs away, laughing insanely, playing a kazoo: :LOL: --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
::Not the kazoo! Anything but those damn things Dx - DL
:::Dammit, not another one! *Picks up a cricket paddle*

== Is that Sarah's Hoodie ==

::It looks like the hoodie that Sarah was wearing in "No Trespassing." Is Bree a dirty clothing thief :O!
::more importantly, does a hoodie count as a hat? probably not. but it is interesting, right? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 16 2007

User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-06-15T17:00:21Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* BA Tells Lies. */

User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-06-15T17:00:12Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* BA Tells Lies. */

[[Image:Thgothtinkerbell.jpg|right]]
== BA Tells Lies. ==
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts Monday through Friday, 8AM - 4PM EST. She is mostly known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives not only of suspicious posters but also of long time posters that could possible be 'plants' by the Order. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
::BA stopped being a member at the forum when things turned twisted
::but BA kept watching.

Does anyone see her?

BA is still watching.

== About Her ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 

== What Ever Happened to That Girl BA? ==

BA is Gone.

BA is still watching.

{{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox NBR}}{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}

User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-06-15T16:56:47Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* BA Tells Lies. */

[[Image:Thgothtinkerbell.jpg|right]]
== BA Tells Lies. ==
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts Monday through Friday, 8AM - 4PM EST. She is mostly known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives not only of suspicious posters but also of long time posters that could possible be 'plants' by the Order. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
::BA stopped being a member when things turned twisted, but BA kept watching.

Does anyone see her?

BA is still watching.

== About Her ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 

== What Ever Happened to That Girl BA? ==

BA is Gone.

BA is still watching.

{{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox NBR}}{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}

User talk:TokyoMike

2007-06-15T16:56:17Z

Nobackspacebutton:

Hey, I just thought I ought to give you a welcome to the LGPedia. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 12:54, 22 February 2007 (CST)
: Thanks :)

I'm jealous of you and your Tokyo D;

:: Hello Mike from Tokyo. lol --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 11:56, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Sarah Fan Club

2007-06-15T11:02:08Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Possibly Evil? */

==Possibly Evil?==

Does anyone else think that she is possibly evil? How did she escape the watchers again? --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 06:02, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

==Joinage?==
*How do you join the Daniel-Sarah Romance Promotion Force? :) Love the page, by the way.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

Talk:Sarah Fan Club

2007-06-15T11:02:00Z

Nobackspacebutton:

==Possibly Evil?==

*Does anyone else think that she is possibly evil? How did she escape the watchers again?

==Joinage?==
*How do you join the Daniel-Sarah Romance Promotion Force? :) Love the page, by the way.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

Talk:Mr. Park Ranger

2007-06-15T10:55:55Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Water metaphors */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 06:11, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
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==YouTube==

This video wasn't posted on YouTube, and I am shocked! (They were keeping it up to date so well...) Should we put it in the notes section, or wait to see if it shows up on YouTube? --[[User:Rekidk|Rekidk]] 20:25, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:: It showed up just a couple hours ago. Hardly note-worthy, IMO. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 01:09, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Sucky ==

Man this is seriously sucky for Jonas. I mean, first his parents disappear mysteriously, now Bree? Not surprising that he freaked out when he got near some water... --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Water metaphors ==

jonas and the water is interesting. it represents mystery and danger but also openness and choices. what do you think? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 12, 2007
::Water has always symbolised something in these series, but I think in this video, the water was there to represent calmness to Jonas...and how right now, he is trying to be calm, but he is really raging inside with feelings. Just like water...calm on the surface, but raging underneath. He needed a break to let out his feelings. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 05:55, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Everybody Does It ;)

2007-06-15T10:53:20Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Description */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:27, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Description ==

: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
: Description? yeah. okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
::Maybe sahe meant his first time where sex was just sex? [[User:86.43.210.136|86.43.210.136]] 03:06, 13 June 2007 (CDT) - damn, wasnt logged in [[User:Anto687|Anto]]
::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex? --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
: I think the girls are just trying to belittle him, in this video and the response video, as much as they can. Afterall, if they break Jonas and Daniel apart...whats left of the dynamic trio? --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 05:53, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==

No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Just has to be said... ==

All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Absurd connections ==

* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex. this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :-> As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much." The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head. I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::Meh. It's not a big deal. I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could. Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function. Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral? She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:umm... yes. yes. you are. ...did you not read the above comments? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion. umm... you did. want to reread the exchange above? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypyus]] june 14 2k7
:I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
::Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Bit at the end ==

i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. {{Unsigned|76.104.199.147}}
:You weren't the only one! xD --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Not suggesting she and Daniel had sex ==

If you look at 1:00, Sarah states "and not with anyone else." So instead of suggesting that she and Daniel had sex in those locations, she's suggesting she's had her "fun" masturbating in those locations.--[[User:67.173.47.123|67.173.47.123]] 12:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:: That was my thought too! >=D --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 13:57, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Statutory rape? ==

Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart?
[[User:LoneIygirl15|LoneIygirl15]] 5:51, 14 June 2007
:even if Bree agreed to having sex with Jonas, he is still over the age of 18, so it is technically stat. rape. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:59, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

* bree is 17 and jonas is 19... so jonas is exempt from rape charges under part b of the law. so i removed the statutory rape note. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7
:I've never read it, and I'm sure you're right, but I was just wondering were I could check this out. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:18, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-15T10:51:29Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Her/Our */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 04:34, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Her/Our ==

I honestly think she is saying "Our parents" not her. Anyone else hear "our"? I've rewatched it like 20 times on that part, but it still sounds like "our" to me. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 21:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
::I noticed that too. I think she was just trying to say things about her "sister" from an outside POV (point of view). But, I still don't understand why her video never went into any real details at all---I think it was just an attack on Jonas. She is completely out of character in this video; completely transformed. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 05:51, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

== Jonas Treatment ==

Does anyone else think Jonas is being treated VERY unfairly? He just wants to find Bree! So what if he cares about her? The rest of them are acting like everything is just a game in school. There is no reason he should have been attacked by Sarah and Taylor. I'm going back to the thought that us as a LG community have been infiltrated by them and that the "sex is fun" is connected to the order "is fun". Jonas is a main character, not to be replaced, yet he is being pushed to the side. While they should be focusing on Bree, Daniel (whom has been brainwashed before) is following that girl around like he is litterly under her command. Doesn't anyone else see anything suspicious here? The girls were brought in to distract and seperate them! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:53, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:Hmmm. Very good possibility. Or, they are just acting like any other slutty teenagers. I don't think Taylor is as "innocent" as everyone thinks, and well, Sarah, isn't innocent at all, obviously. But I feel so bad for Jonas right now is seeing through "the eyeballs of love" and isn't being himself which won't help find Bree. But his friends need to help him and not pick on him all the time. Having your heartbroken by a love is one thing, but to have your friends turn their back on you right afterwards is a really hard thing to deal with. I know, it's happened to me one to many times. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 12:23, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:: I completely agree! Sarah and Taylor are being really hard on Jonas, for no reason. Daniel... well, we haven't really heard much out of him, but he's really the ONLY person who has any reason to be mad at Jonas... and seriously, his "reasons" have been wearing thin. Honestly, what's wrong with a guy who's actually into love? He and Sarah are two COMPLETELY different creatures. Sarah's been hurt watching the relationship that her parents had, so she HAS made herself callous to love, because she doesn't want to get hurt. She even says it herself, that she's just in it for the F-U-N. Jonas, on the other hand, has been on his own for a really long time. His parents were taken from him at a young age... and he's sensitive. People in that kind of environment tend to really reach out for those connections: friendship and love. Now a girl he loves/likes has also been taken from him, his friend is mad at him because he USED to like her, and the other person in the house is coming down on him because he believes that a relationship is MUCH MORE than the sex. I'm sorry, I am completely on Jonas' side on this one. Sarah and Taylor are being WAY, WAY too hard on him. [/$.02] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
I think a lot of people in the LG community are focusing too much on the girls and not onto Bree. Anyone else notice the dream catcher and the other items inside of Taylors room? Things like these need to be scrutinized. No one should be thought to be inncocent until proven not guilty. Jonas has proved himself not to be evil, but these girls---they have done nothing but throw Jonas and Daniel off path. Personally, this video was very much out of Taylors personality--the personality that we've seen so far anyway. Maybe she and her "sister" are the ones with the darker side. Daniel needs to stop puppying around Sarah and remember about his best friend. Just because Bree isn't paying attention to him, doesn't mean he should neglect her--or push off his foosball pal Jonas!--[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 13:55, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Sex Sex Sex! ==
So Jonas ''did'' have sex then? Weird. :] But kinda cool. It's like the series is finally growing up. -tear- <3<3<3-Demented lama

Taylor seems to be taking a page from the KBS ("Kinky Book of Sarah") with that private school getup and riding crop! OW! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Playing Favourites ==
Is anyone finding they like Taylor and Sarah more than any of the original characters? Is it just me? They don't WHINE and everyone else does... [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 02:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:This is false. Sarah whines twice as much as Bree, Daniel and Jonas combined. Every time she opens her mouth it is to whine. She has never done anything except to whine. That is Sarah. She's an ex-cheerleader who thinks shes smart now that she's discovered Silvia Plaith and wears black. BFD! but Taylor is pretty hot. I like her recent video where she shows her sexy side. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7

== Email ==
I'd like to have a link to the email Taylor refers to in the video, but I can't figure out how to add it without http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403381&sid=22bd786f107a8bb26b28250b6cf5c7ff#40338 showing up on the page. And that's kinda long. I'm sure there's some really easy way to do this that I'm just unaware of. --[[User:Sunkist|Sunkist]] 02:49, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

wait a minute; am I the only one who noticed Taylor NOT going into mixed message number 1? I'm confuzzled... Also, some of the things in the e-mail might need to be referenced with the video (I was wondering where in the crap the reference to "callous" came from...)--[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

Done it [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 05:28, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Well, in the e-mail, Jonas misspells and uses imrper grammer frequently, except when he says "you and I". That's why Taylor emphasyses it.[[User:70.113.85.225|70.113.85.225]] 23:29, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Everybody Does It ;)

2007-06-14T18:57:16Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Not suggesting she and Daniel had sex */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:27, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Description ==
: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
: Description? yeah. okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
::Maybe sahe meant his first time where sex was just sex? [[User:86.43.210.136|86.43.210.136]] 03:06, 13 June 2007 (CDT) - damn, wasnt logged in [[User:Anto687|Anto]]
::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex? --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==
No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Just has to be said... ==

All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Absurd connections ==

* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex. this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :-> As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much." The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head. I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::Meh. It's not a big deal. I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could. Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function. Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral? She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:umm... yes. yes. you are. ...did you not read the above comments? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion. umm... you did. want to reread the exchange above? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypyus]] june 14 2k7
:I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
::Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Bit at the end ==

i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. {{Unsigned|76.104.199.147}}
:You weren't the only one! xD --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== If they did have sex, is it necessarily statutory rape? ==

Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart?
[[User:LoneIygirl15|LoneIygirl15]] 5:51, 14 June 2007
::even if Bree agreed to having sex with Jonas, he is still over the age of 18, so it is technically stat. rape. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:59, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Not suggesting she and Daniel had sex ==

If you look at 1:00, Sarah states "and not with anyone else." So instead of suggesting that she and Daniel had sex in those locations, she's suggesting she's had her "fun" masturbating in those locations.--[[User:67.173.47.123|67.173.47.123]] 12:04, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:: That was my thought too! >=D --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 13:57, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T18:55:55Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Jonas Treatment */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 04:34, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Jonas Treatment ==

Does anyone else think Jonas is being treated VERY unfairly? He just wants to find Bree! So what if he cares about her? The rest of them are acting like everything is just a game in school. There is no reason he should have been attacked by Sarah and Taylor. I'm going back to the thought that us as a LG community have been infiltrated by them and that the "sex is fun" is connected to the order "is fun". Jonas is a main character, not to be replaced, yet he is being pushed to the side. While they should be focusing on Bree, Daniel (whom has been brainwashed before) is following that girl around like he is litterly under her command. Doesn't anyone else see anything suspicious here? The girls were brought in to distract and seperate them! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:53, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:Hmmm. Very good possibility. Or, they are just acting like any other slutty teenagers. I don't think Taylor is as "innocent" as everyone thinks, and well, Sarah, isn't innocent at all, obviously. But I feel so bad for Jonas right now is seeing through "the eyeballs of love" and isn't being himself which won't help find Bree. But his friends need to help him and not pick on him all the time. Having your heartbroken by a love is one thing, but to have your friends turn their back on you right afterwards is a really hard thing to deal with. I know, it's happened to me one to many times. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 12:23, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:: I completely agree! Sarah and Taylor are being really hard on Jonas, for no reason. Daniel... well, we haven't really heard much out of him, but he's really the ONLY person who has any reason to be mad at Jonas... and seriously, his "reasons" have been wearing thin. Honestly, what's wrong with a guy who's actually into love? He and Sarah are two COMPLETELY different creatures. Sarah's been hurt watching the relationship that her parents had, so she HAS made herself callous to love, because she doesn't want to get hurt. She even says it herself, that she's just in it for the F-U-N. Jonas, on the other hand, has been on his own for a really long time. His parents were taken from him at a young age... and he's sensitive. People in that kind of environment tend to really reach out for those connections: friendship and love. Now a girl he loves/likes has also been taken from him, his friend is mad at him because he USED to like her, and the other person in the house is coming down on him because he believes that a relationship is MUCH MORE than the sex. I'm sorry, I am completely on Jonas' side on this one. Sarah and Taylor are being WAY, WAY too hard on him. [/$.02] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
I think a lot of people in the LG community are focusing too much on the girls and not onto Bree. Anyone else notice the dream catcher and the other items inside of Taylors room? Things like these need to be scrutinized. No one should be thought to be inncocent until proven not guilty. Jonas has proved himself not to be evil, but these girls---they have done nothing but throw Jonas and Daniel off path. Personally, this video was very much out of Taylors personality--the personality that we've seen so far anyway. Maybe she and her "sister" are the ones with the darker side. Daniel needs to stop puppying around Sarah and remember about his best friend. Just because Bree isn't paying attention to him, doesn't mean he should neglect her--or push off his foosball pal Jonas!--[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 13:55, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Sex Sex Sex! ==
So Jonas ''did'' have sex then? Weird. :] But kinda cool. It's like the series is finally growing up. -tear- <3<3<3-Demented lama

Taylor seems to be taking a page from the KBS ("Kinky Book of Sarah") with that private school getup and riding crop! OW! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Playing Favourites ==
Is anyone finding they like Taylor and Sarah more than any of the original characters? Is it just me? They don't WHINE and everyone else does... [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 02:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:This is false. Sarah whines twice as much as Bree, Daniel and Jonas combined. Every time she opens her mouth it is to whine. She has never done anything except to whine. That is Sarah. She's an ex-cheerleader who thinks shes smart now that she's discovered Silvia Plaith and wears black. BFD! but Taylor is pretty hot. I like her recent video where she shows her sexy side. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7

== Email ==
I'd like to have a link to the email Taylor refers to in the video, but I can't figure out how to add it without http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403381&sid=22bd786f107a8bb26b28250b6cf5c7ff#40338 showing up on the page. And that's kinda long. I'm sure there's some really easy way to do this that I'm just unaware of. --[[User:Sunkist|Sunkist]] 02:49, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

wait a minute; am I the only one who noticed Taylor NOT going into mixed message number 1? I'm confuzzled... Also, some of the things in the e-mail might need to be referenced with the video (I was wondering where in the crap the reference to "callous" came from...)--[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

Done it [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 05:28, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Everybody Does It ;)

2007-06-14T13:59:04Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* If they did have sex, is it necessarily statutory rape? */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:27, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Description ==
: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
: Description? yeah. okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
::Maybe sahe meant his first time where sex was just sex? [[User:86.43.210.136|86.43.210.136]] 03:06, 13 June 2007 (CDT) - damn, wasnt logged in [[User:Anto687|Anto]]
::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex? --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==
No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Just has to be said... ==

All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Absurd connections ==

* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex. this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :-> As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much." The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head. I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::Meh. It's not a big deal. I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could. Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function. Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral? She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:umm... yes. yes. you are. ...did you not read the above comments? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion. umm... you did. want to reread the exchange above? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypyus]] june 14 2k7
:I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
::Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Bit at the end ==

i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. {{Unsigned|76.104.199.147}}
:You weren't the only one! xD --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== If they did have sex, is it necessarily statutory rape? ==

Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart?
[[User:LoneIygirl15|LoneIygirl15]] 5:51, 14 June 2007
::even if Bree agreed to having sex with Jonas, he is still over the age of 18, so it is technically stat. rape. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:59, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Everybody Does It ;)

2007-06-14T13:56:55Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Absurd connections */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:27, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Description ==
: Sarah says "even if it was your first time". She is either mistaken and doesn't realize that he has stated he's "hooked up before" or his previous claim wasn't truthful. Yeah... something totally inane. I know. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 02:58, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
: Description? yeah. okay. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13
::Maybe sahe meant his first time where sex was just sex? [[User:86.43.210.136|86.43.210.136]] 03:06, 13 June 2007 (CDT) - damn, wasnt logged in [[User:Anto687|Anto]]
::Or maybe Jonas doesn't equate "hooking up" with sex? --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 03:15, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::I was quite sleepy when I wrote that last night... so I think some of my thoughts got lost along the way into typing. First off, if you haven't guessed by now, I'm talking about the video description that is posted on Revver. Secondly, I totally forgot to mention what slinky just mentioned before me. And I think that was all I wanted to clarify... yeah. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== "This video confirms that Bree and Jonas had sex." ==
No it doesn't. It confirmed that Sarah suspects Bree and Jonas had sex. Stop jumping to conclusions in the articles! [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 07:25, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Just has to be said... ==

All joking aside... I am IN LOVE with Sarah after this video. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 14:20, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

== Absurd connections ==

* this video does not suggest that sarah believes jonas and bree had sex. this video shows us that sarah believes. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* sarah could possibly be making a connection between the "hym of one is fun" and "sex is for fun" but based on her personality (being the type of person who doesn't think much and simply acts on impulse) her character probably isn't making any sort of profound allusion. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I totally agree with you on the first point, and I think we've hashed out a nice version of that note together. :-> As for the second, while I agree with your point, I wouldn't necessarily label Sarah as someone who "doesn't think much." The fact that she completely changed her identity (as she used to be a cheerleader) shows that there's something going on in her head. I think that everything she does, says, and wears, is very calculated, and I wouldn't put anything past her. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 16:00, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::Meh. It's not a big deal. I'd somehow combine it into a single point if i could. Certainly Sarah does some thinking but it's not her primary function. Wouldn't you agree that she's far more emotional than cerebral? She doesn't really break the stereotype mold of the hip cheerleader type. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
* Am I the only person who thinks the supposed connection between the "Hymn of One is fun" and "sex is for fun", let alone "sex is for the Hymn of One", is ridiculous?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:umm... yes. yes. you are. ...did you not read the above comments? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 13 2007
::I did. Obviously, you and JBshryne are not the only two people on this website who might have an opinion. For example, the person who just posted below what I am writing now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
::i never claimed to be the only person with an opinion. umm... you did. want to reread the exchange above? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypyus]] june 14 2k7
:I totally think the "sex is for the Hymn of One" thing is crap. Can someone PLEASE explain it because it doesn't make sense.
::Let's not attack everyone over a little note now. I agree with jeans. I think it's a quite absurd note. It is a stretch of a connection. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 18:40, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
::"Sex is fun" and the "Hymn of One is fun" merely connects in the fact that the phrases are similar. If Sarah has been programmed previously from the Hymn of One, perhaps some of their teachings are still merely dormant in her mind, but seep out time to time. Her and her sister are still connected to the order just by knowing Jules. We need to stop siding with them and start investigating their pasts! --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 08:56, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

== Bit at the end ==

i totally thought that bit at the end was going to end with a CK instead of an N. {{Unsigned|76.104.199.147}}
:You weren't the only one! xD --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== If they did have sex, is it necessarily statutory rape? ==

Bree was 16 when she met Jonas at 19. Is it possible they're less than three years apart?
[[User:LoneIygirl15|LoneIygirl15]] 5:51, 14 June 2007

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T13:53:59Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Jonas Treatment */

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T13:53:13Z

Nobackspacebutton:

User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-03-15T18:52:49Z

Nobackspacebutton:

[[Image:Thgothtinkerbell.jpg|right]]
== BA Tells Lies. ==
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts Monday through Friday, 8AM - 4PM EST. She is mostly known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives not only of suspicious posters but also of long time posters that could possible be 'plants' by the Order. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.

== About Her ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 

== What Ever Happened to That Girl BA? ==

BA is watching.

{{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox NBR}}{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}

User:Nobackspacebutton

2007-03-15T18:51:21Z

Nobackspacebutton:

[[Image:Thgothtinkerbell.jpg|right]]
== BA Tells Lies. ==
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts Monday through Friday, 8AM - 4PM EST. She is mostly known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives not only of suspicious posters but also of long time posters that could possible be 'plants' by the Order. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.

== About Her ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 

== What Ever Happened to That Girl BA? ==

BA is watching.

{{Userbox Bree}}{{Userbox Lonelybeast}}
{{Userbox NBR}}{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}

Watch This!

2007-02-19T12:38:02Z

Nobackspacebutton:

{{Blog3
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|number = 0134
|image = 0134.jpg
|caption = No! Not again ...
|blogger = Daniel
|date = February 16th, 2007
|url = [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=188 lonelygirl15.com]
|description = Today was crazy, I can't even begin to describe it. Just watch. We've been on the road all afternoon and just had a chance to pull over and upload this.
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| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Miles Beckett
| camera =
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| editor =
| song = Trioxidation by Bjorn Fogelberg


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| actor3 = Jackson Davis
| character4 = Bree
| actor4 = Jessica Lee Rose
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| Previous = Valentine's Day Massacre
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'''Watch This!''' is the one hundred thirty-fourth video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==

''(Filming a bald guy in a black suit standing in front of a black SUV making a phonecall)''

''(Bree comes in)''

'''Bree:''' Daniel, this better be good. What're you filming? Oh my god...

'''Daniel:''' Go wake up Jonas...

''(Jonas comes in)''

'''Jonas:''' Is that what I think it is?

'''Bree:''' Stop filming! There could be others on the way, we should go!

'''Jonas:''' You know, screw leaving- I'm going out there, Daniel, keep filming no matter what.

''(Starts walking away)''

'''Bree:''' Jonas, don't be stupid, you can get hurt.

'''Jonas:''' Hey, you know what, we keep running away, they're just gonna keep chasing us... I'm tired of it.

''( There's a one frame flash, of Bree lying on a bed, with LG15, in the upper right hand corner)''

'''Daniel:''' Jonas!

'''Bree:''' Jonas!

'''Jonas:''' No!

''(Jonas walking towards the bald guy in the suit)''

'''Jonas:''' Hey! - This is private property!

''(Bree running to Jonas)''

'''Daniel:''' Bree no!

'''Jonas:''' Bree, stay back!

'''Daniel:''' Bree!

''(Fight between Jonas and the Watcher, Bree stays in the middle, Jonas pulls her away and they both run)''

'''Daniel:''' Get over here!

==Notes==
*As of this video, [[Jonas's house]] is no longer safe from [[The Order]].
*On YouTube only, for a fraction of a second, there is a still of Bree (taken from [[Daniel's Missing!]]) at the exact middle of the episode. Videos on YouTube are represented by a thumbnail of the image from their exact middle; therefore, this image of Bree episode's YouTube thumbnail, although the viewer probably does not consciously see the image while watching the episode. This technique was last used for [[The Unthinkable Happened]].
*It is thought that the title of the video, "Watch This", is mocking the Watchers.

Talk:Bree

2007-01-08T16:01:14Z

Nobackspacebutton:

== Age ==

How old is Bree? I feel things like this should definately be added.
--[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 10:01, 8 January 2007 (CST)

== Counting fights ==

I get the impression at the beginning of the Equinox video that Bree is not angry with Daniel. She doesn't call off their dinner because they're having a fight, she calls it off because she's made other plans that are more important. Therefore, I think the fight they have at the end of [[Learning To Drive]] is separated from Daniel being upset specifically for her cancelling their dinner.

Frankly though, the exact number of fights is hardly important. As with any relationship, Bree and Daniel's issues from one fight to another sort of bleed into each other. Maybe the reference to the number should be dropped? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:48, 10 October 2006 (PDT)

== Bree template ==

I object strongly to the [[Template:Bree|"template"]] in use on this page. As well as the [[Daniel]] page, [[Lucy]] page, and [[Gemma]] page. I feel that these templates are an abuse of the template system. The purpose of a template is to insert information in a simplified way, to make the wiki easier to use. These templates do the opposite. One does not put information into these templates. If you want to change any of Bree's information, you have to edit the template itself. And since Template syntax is sometimes complex, it's easy to make mistakes. We don't want only specialized users to be able to find and update "Bree's latest video." Secondly, these templates do not work properly. In the Bree template, for example. "My First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails" does not fit in its box. Furthermore, this template took a particularly interesting collage image and replaced it with a less interesting photo. That's three strikes for me. It seems that, at most, we should have a [[Template:Person]], where the information can be inserted into the page you're editing, but frankly, I feel even that is unnecessary. The information in the template is not particularly useful. This show just doesn't have enough characters to make this array of templates useful.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 06:33, 14 November 2006 (PST)

All they are doing is telling who they are its not that bad.--[[User:LB15|LB15]] 08:48, 14 November 2006 (PST)

:JayHenry is correct. The use of mediawiki templates in this way is an inappropriate use of the template system. Templates are meant to take variables and insert them into a predefine layout. They should also be used when the same information needs to be included on multiple pages. Userboxes are an example of such a template.

:Templates can be a backdoor for vandalism. A few days ago, when you (LB15) replaced the video section of the main page with a template, you actually circumvented the registered-user-only write protection that was in place there. Any one could have modified the main page by altering the template that formed the basis of the video information section.

:I appreciate your desire to learn the templating system, but the LGpedia does not need templates that aren't functional. We certainly don't need pre-existing templates replaced with your own version if they aren't an improvement, such as when you replace the [[Template:Underconstruction]] template with your own.

:The LGpedia needs a lot of work done in the area of improving and expanding its articles. I strongly encourage all users to focus their efforts on enhancing the content of the LGpedia's articles instead of the cosmetic aspects of it. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 10:11, 14 November 2006 (PST)

I'm sorry but I'm not a vandal and I'm not trying to be I'm here just to help and to get this site bigger.--[[User:LB15|LB15]] 12:06, 14 November 2006 (PST)

::In case nobody noticed, I created a bare-bones [[Template:Person]] as suggested by JayHenry above. I think it should be improved upon and used, and then these templates deleted. LB15, your templates look good, but you understand that the purpose of a template is for general usage, and not a single page, so the character templates you made are simply too specific? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 12:44, 15 November 2006 (PST)

== Etymology ==

BREE
Gender: Feminine
Usage: Irish
Pronounced: BREE
Anglicized form of BRÍGH

BRÍGH
Gender: Feminine
Usage: Irish
Pronounced: BREE
Derived from Irish brígh meaning "power, high".

As "Brigh" means power/high, fans speculate that Bree's name may refer to her importance to [[the Order]]. It may be that her ceremony was designed as an initiation into a ''high'' position entailing ''power.''

The video [[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]] makes an implicit link between the name ''Bree'' and ''Brie cheese''.

Bree's Dad Is Dead

2007-01-04T12:57:32Z

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'''Bree's Dad Is Dead''' is the one hundred ninth video in the Lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
There are no spoken words in this episode, only the music and occasional background noises, including at some points what sounds like a police radio or talk show clips.

The video starts with a montage of footage from a car driving along the coast, followed by footage of Bree walking on the beach, sitting and talking with Daniel, Jonas and Daniel watching Bree from a distance, a helicopter flying by, and ending with a shot of Bree lying down that fades into the words "In Memory of Bree's Dad" displayed on a black screen.

==Notes==
* Many fans question how Bree knows for sure that her dad is dead, since they fled the scene.
* They are driving down the Pacific Coast Highway and end up at Crystal Cove in Newport Beach.
*Two of the messages on the police scanner say "on one side there is.." and "three with the idea that..."

Lonelygirl15 The Story So Far...

2007-01-04T12:56:25Z

Nobackspacebutton:

Special Request from [[The Creators]]:
[[The Creators]] of [[Lonelygirl15 (production)|lonelygirl15]] appreciate all the effort put forth by the fans to make the [[LGPedia]] the trove of LG15 information that it has become. They now charge the LGPedia community with a new mission: to create a '''Story So Far...''' section. In a nutshell, they would like a concise yet comprehensive introduction to LG15 for newbies linked to from the main page. The articles [[Breeniverse Timeline]] and [[Down The Rabbit Hole: The Hunt For Bree]] can be a starting-off point for this new viewer summary.

----

==Who is lonelygirl15?==
On May 24, 2006 the world was touched by a sweet young girl experiencing the troubles of everyday life, but it turned out to be something more than that. The truth about lonelygirl15's life was told, and the world was captivated . . .

[[Bree|Lonelygirl15]], a.k.a. Bree, is an intelligent, yet awkward and geeky teenager. Raised in a strict, isolated household, she lacks many of the social skills possessed by her peers. She does not go out with friends much, and spends much of her time reading or playing juvenile games, such as interacting with her three stuffed animals, [[Thor]] the bear, [[Owen]] the Turtle, and [[Purple Monkey|P. Monkey]]. Bree is home schooled, and she and her parents have moved around a lot, which has limited her social experiences and has left her without any true friends. For a short while she attended high school, but the social pressures, teasing and her lack of experience proved too overwhelming for her to bear. However, she did leave her short stint in public high school with one friend, [[Daniel]].

==Her Beginning==
In June of 2006, Bree bought a webcam and began posting on [[YouTube]]. At first, she posted simple, silly clips of her and her stuffed animals, which she explains were edited by a friend. Later on, however, she opened up to the audience and began sharing more and more about herself, her life, religion and troubles. [[My Parents Suck...|Bree explains]] that her religion often prevents her from doing normal, teenage activities. Along the way, [[The Danielbeast|she introduces Daniel (as DanielBeast)]], her best and only ''real'' friend. Although he just sits on the bed and reads magazines most of the time, he occasionally participates in her clips, such as their spoof of each other, "[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]]".

Daniel and Bree spend more and more time together, [[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!|going on hikes]], [[Swimming!|swimming]] or just sitting in her bedroom. Bree's father asks Daniel to film Bree's play for her annual religious summer camp. Daniel refuses, and [[What Bree's Dad Said...|Bree's father reacts negatively]], straining her friendship with Daniel. Afterwards, tears are shed and angry words are exchanged between the friends. Daniel [[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)|posts a video]] explaining how he intends to attend her play, though not to film it, much to the surprise and happiness of Bree. Having gotten over the first hurdle in their public relationship, Bree excitedly shares that she has been chosen to participate in a sacred ceremony for her religion. Bree does not share many details about this religion except to say that she is truly committed to her faith.

==Her Rebellion==
Daniel [[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!|invites Bree to a party]], something she has never experienced, and with people she only met during her short time in public education (and who also [[Poor Pluto|teased her]] for her intellectual curiosity in science class). Her parents forbid her to go, but Bree [[I'm Going to the Party!|decides to sneak out anyway]]. Much to her dismay, her father is waiting for her when she gets home. She is promptly placed under "[[House Arrest|house arrest]]," and her father forbids her to see Daniel anymore. After this first rebellious act against her parents, it seems as if Bree has become addicted to sneaking out, or perhaps she just relishes her newfound freedom. Daniel invites her on various "dates" and Bree is confused about teen love. She's never had a boyfriend before, and obviously never experienced a kiss, so Daniel's desire to be something more than friends befuddles her, especially when [[My First Kiss|he kisses her]] at another party.

==Her Religion==
In the video [[A Change In My Life]], Bree sheds some light on the ceremony for which she has been chosen to participate. For the [[Bree's ritual|ceremony]], she has to learn [[Enochian|a new language]], go on a special diet, learn special steps, take [[iron pills|iron supplements]] and receive weekly [[Bree's injections|injections]].

Although Bree promises to have a dinner with Daniel, she realizes that she has to attend an annual [[Fall Equinox]] ceremony for [[Bree's religion|her religion]]. Again, her mysterious religion tears Daniel and Bree apart. She decides that her religion is more important to her than her only friend. She gains a "[[My Helper|helper]]" whose role is to assist her in preparing for the upcoming ceremony. She is already studying hard, dieting, taking pills and receiving mysterious shots. Nevertheless, she enjoys this new female friend. Daniel, still angry, [[Where Are They Going?|follows Bree and her helper]], [[Lucy]], in order to figure out the woman's purpose and motives. Bree sees the videoblog of Daniel following her and is upset. She tells Daniel via [[Daniel Crossed The Line|videoblog]] to leave her alone and stop following her. She also warns him about the power of those in her religious order. Daniel ignores her and begins to become alarmed by the extent to which her religion affects events in Bree's life.

==Her Ceremony==
Daniel finds inconclusive, yet disturbing stories about a man associated with Bree's religion, [[Aleister Crowley]]. He follows Bree and her helper yet again and in a secluded, wooded area stumbles upon the ceremony. As Daniel [[The Ceremony|films part of the secret ritual]], he notices that he is being watched. Fleeing through the darkness, he escapes into his car before being caught. After that, he follows Bree's helper Lucy to her apartment and waits until she leaves, [[Following The Helper|breaking in]] and finding pictures on Lucy's computer of himself videotaping the ceremony, along with maps of locations in Texas, Arizona, California, Alaska and Alberta, Canada. Shaken and paranoid, Daniel is convinced that Bree's "cult," as he calls it, is following him as he followed them. Bree hears of this and becomes extremely worried about Daniel's safety. So he goes "underground," staying at a friend's home to hide from the cult. Daniel calls Bree, finding out that under the instruction of Lucy and other cult members [[I Lied To Daniel|Bree has lied]] to him about the ceremony. As it turns out, Bree knows very little about purpose and date of the ceremony. Furthermore, Bree's father seems to have little information about the injections he was giving to her. Bree realizes that Lucy will not answer any of Bree's questions. With Daniel's encouragement, Bree decides not to participate in the ceremony, and her parents surprisingly support her decision. Meanwhile, Bree is contacted by [[Gemma]], an old friend, who warns her of the power and influence of [[The Order|the "Order"]]. This prompts Bree to reunite with Daniel at his house.

==Her Getaway==
While at Daniel's house, [[Still At Daniel's|Bree's parents contact her ]] to tell her that she should sleep at Daniel's for the night, an extreme contrast to the conservative parents Bree has known. A few days later, Bree and Daniel, both worried, decide to return to her home after receiving no responses to their numerous phone calls. Upon arriving at the house, and from within the safety of Daniel's car [[On The Run|they witness her parents leaving]] with Lucy and a man from the ceremony. Once the car drives off, the two enter Bree's house to examine the scene. Hidden inside the P. Monkey puppet, Bree finds a note and some money left by her parents. The note advises her to stay with Daniel. Daniel and Bree worry about whether or not Daniel's house is a safe location. They make the decision to run away. They sleep in the car for a few days before settling in to a [[The motel|motel]]. Bree seems to be her usual silly self, but [[Someone's Following You|Gemma warns her]] that she is being followed by a "[[Watcher]]", a member of the Order who is stalking them. They both flee again, finding [[The second motel|another motel]]. [[Silent Treatment|Daniel is upset with Bree]] for not taking the situation seriously.

==Her New Friend==
Bree is left a video comment by [[Jonas]], who wishes Lonelygirl and Danielbeast a [[Happy Thanksgiving]]. He does not give out much background information about himself, and says only that his parents mysteriously disappeared while sailing six years ago, and expresses his sympathy for Bree, a fellow "orphan". Meanwhile, Daniel and Bree return to their motel room to find it [[Ransacked!|ransacked]]. With all of their money stolen, and now having only the small amount left that Daniel is carrying, and they flee once again. Daniel becomes increasingly aggravated and wants to go back home, but Bree is not convinced that they are safe. Bree receives a vblog from Gemma who fears she too is being followed by a Watcher. [[Scared To Go Home|Scared to go home]], Gemma hides out at a friend's home, noticeably distressed, much like Daniel when he realized he was being followed. The situation for Bree and Daniel grows increasingly worse when Daniel is informed by someone named Tachyon that his car is bugged with a tracking device. Deciding that the safest choice is to [[Homeless|abandon the car]], the now-homeless couple has to resort to dumpster diving for food and a dirty abandoned warehouse for shelter. In November 28th online chat session, it is suggested that Bree and Daniel accept the help of Jonas, who is apparently rich, unemployed and lives alone in a large house. However, Daniel and Gemma are not convinced. Bree [[Your Decision|chooses to stay with Jonas]], but Daniel decides to [[Back Home|return home]].

==A Betrayal==
Jonas posts [[Tough Cookie|a video claiming that Gemma was lying]] about being in London; apparently she is in California and still active in the Order. This, along with Daniel's abandonment of her, drives Bree to sulk for several days. Meanwhile, Daniel decides to go [[Back At Bree's|back to Bree's house]] and investigate, finding evidence that leads him to [[Breaking And Entering|break into a pharmaceutical warehouse]]. Bree decides to take action herself and begins by [[Bree Phone Home|calling her friends and family]] to see if anyone has had contact with her parents. She initially seems to find no helpful information, but in a call to an uncle, receives a coded message from her father, indicating that they are OK and requesting that she meet them. She reminisces about her old friend [[Cassie]] with whom Bree made some prank phone calls during their brief friendship. By the time she finishes making her calls; Bree concludes that the "Gemma Incident" is good reason to avoid contact with those in "The Community."

On Christmas Day, much to Bree's [[Christmas Surprise|surprise]] and elation, Daniel arrives at Jonas's house. However, on the following day, Jonas and Daniel wake to find that [[Bree's Gone|Bree is gone]] without a note or obvious explanation. According to Jonas, Bree has taken his car, one of his credit cards, and some of his cash. Daniel decides to examine Bree's recent videos more closely to find an explanation of her disappearance.

==An Unthinkable Situation==
Jonas and Daniel post a [[Roadtrip|video]] of themselves on the road as they try to track down Bree. On New Year's Eve, they finally [[The Unthinkable Happened|locate]] her. From Jonas's SUV, they watch as Bree meets with her father at an outside cafe. Instead of approaching her as Jonas suggests, Daniel urges Jonas to simply wait and follow Bree as she and her father drive off. As Bree's father's car makes its way into an outdoor, multi-level parking garage, Jonas and Daniel watch from a distance. As Bree and her father walk back to what seems to be the car she took from Jonas, another car pulls up quickly and two figures, a man and a woman, quickly approach Bree's father. Sensing the danger, Daniel and Jonas jump out of the SUV and call her to safety. Bree runs to Daniel, and after what sounds like a gun shot is heard, a brief struggle ensues. Due to the shaky camera, it is unclear exactly who struggles with whom. As the three flee from the scene in the SUV, a silhouette of three figures are left standing in the parking garage.

==Bree's Father Is Dead==

Daniel posts a video that he has spent all night editing over and over. Its a video in memory of Bree's father. Through this video, it is discovered that Bree's father was the one shot during the struggle in the parking garage. Daniel, Jonas, and Bree all travel to the beach and are seen staring into the ocean and walking on rocks. Daniel and Bree spend some time talking together, but throughout the whole video there are no words.

Forum vote

2007-01-02T16:00:21Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Best Moments */

[[Image:Breed.JPG|thumbnail|TOP!!]]

= The Best LG-15 Moments of 2006-Continued Voting =

In true LG15 style, '''Top 15''' lists for 2006 shall be created, as voted by fans.

The main video message board contributors have already voted. We are now opening up voting to forum members and others who have not voted yet.

'''The new deadline for voting is Midnight, EST on 01/16/06!'''

Please leave an X, followed by a comma to indicate your vote in each category!!

Also, ADD any videos or moments you feel should be on this list!!

'''DISCLAIMER:''' The voting(so far) was created after bored lonelycracks on the comment board on New Year's eve had the idea. It was created by regulars from the comment boards. Forums and ARG might be underrepresented. Please feel free to add new categories to change this! Also, please note that there is no statistical significance concerning the whole of LG15 users to the voting.

== Best Video ==

*Christmas Surprise

*Daniel Returns and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)

*Fleeing the Watchers

*Grillz

*My Difficult Decision

*On the Run

*P*Monkey Boogies

*Poor Pluto

*Proving Longitude Wrong

*Swimming

*The Unthinkable Happened X, X,

*What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?

'''Summary (so far):
*Total nominations: 12
*Total Votes: 64

== Best Moments ==

*Bree: "Cavemen didn’t have the tool of language!” (Daniel the Neanderthal)

*Bree: “Now I’m gonna demonstrate a common but deadly tactic known as the yawn technique. Let’s pretend for the moment that Thor here is a poor unsuspecting girl bear and I’m a not so poor and not so unsuspecting boy bear with questionable motives.” (My First Kiss)

*Daniel: "L'care x, X,
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=L%27care

*Daniel: “Today we’re going to learn about the Cornwallis Effect. Isn’t that cool?” (nods while Bree’s face falls into the magazine, probably out of frustration and disbelief) (Proving Science Wrong… with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15)

*The "shot"(?) heard round the Breeniverse (The Unthinkable Happened)

*Daniel: Is that on? Bree: (Looks around, nervous.) No. (The Danielbeast)

*Daniel: "Oranges, ah, here we go. She loves oranges, so let's-- " (Breakfast In Bed)

*Gemma calling P. Monkey a "wanker". (Don't trust the authorities)

*Bree: “P. Monkey and Owen have even offered to room together, so you’ll have your own room. That’s pretty generous.” (Bree Phone Home).

*Bree: “Shower cap? (Bree turns Owen towards the camera, and shakes him, making his head nod.) Check.” (Exploring the Motel)

*”My name is Bree. I’m 16. Um, I don’t really wanna tell you where I live…’cause, you could stalk me.” {image freezes, ‘Psycho’ music plays, and girl screams} (First Blog/Dorkiness Prevails).

*Bree: "Whatever happened to that girl Cassie?" (Swimming)

'''SUMMARY: (so far):'''
*Total nominations: 11
*Total votes: 38

== Best Fan Videos (Video Comment) ==

*"P. Monkey In Charge" - http://one.revver.com/watch/106858 - T.W. Janiak

*"It'sKassie-Scary Dreams"- http://one.revver.com/watch/120633- voyboy

*"Wanker?!?" - http://one.revver.com/watch/98782 -LonesomeOct

*"The Cult's Using Orange!!" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1HBX-f_TrI - dnegroni - HoorayItsMeImMakingOut! (mimo)

*"Dr. Marbella-Removing "Bugs" from Stuffed Friends - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY53_bExubI - Marbella

*"This Is My Story Now" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IcYUifgEfw - cassieiswatching

*"LonelyCrack - Heads Anonymous" - nobby1985

*"Foiling The Black Lodge" - http://one.revver.com/watch/90996 -LordGreystoke

*"Lonelygirl15 Cthulhu Interview" - http://one.revver.com/watch/70358 -LoneseomeOct

*"To LG-15 Bree from Marbella" - http://one.revver.com/watch/110662 -Marbella

*"It's On, Gemma!" - http://one.revver.com/find/title/It's%20On%2C%20Gemma! -LonesomeOct

*"Now Hiring" - http://one.revver.com/watch/105636 - ApotheosisAZX

*"In Stores Now" - http://one.revver.com/watch/128953 - (G Version)-Fan Video Action Figure Playsets!- ApotheosisAZ

*"1-800-kassie" - http://one.revver.com/watch/125566 - Voyboy

*"Re: My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!" aka "I Love Bees I" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdhKY9_ywU

*"Re: Boy Problems..." aka "I Love Bees II" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKvG2bYT2hE

*"Cassie Calls Loveline - Latest Voicemail!" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebSDRspz968 - pcxl-

*"Youtube Auteur" by Terryfic (Aug 7, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDxxuHkUMRI

*"Introducing Paul and Andrea" by PaulMark18 (Sept. 16, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vt9zgQES-E

*"Lady Problems" by ScorchedHotTub (July 18, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orJeGH3QJRo

'''SUMMARY (so far):'''
*Total nominations: 20
*Total votes: 31 (NOTE: Nominations only are counted as votes!)

== Best Moments on the FORUM==

(Please add these as you like!)

Forum vote

2007-01-02T15:59:59Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Best Video */

[[Image:Breed.JPG|thumbnail|TOP!!]]

= The Best LG-15 Moments of 2006-Continued Voting =

In true LG15 style, '''Top 15''' lists for 2006 shall be created, as voted by fans.

The main video message board contributors have already voted. We are now opening up voting to forum members and others who have not voted yet.

'''The new deadline for voting is Midnight, EST on 01/16/06!'''

Please leave an X, followed by a comma to indicate your vote in each category!!

Also, ADD any videos or moments you feel should be on this list!!

'''DISCLAIMER:''' The voting(so far) was created after bored lonelycracks on the comment board on New Year's eve had the idea. It was created by regulars from the comment boards. Forums and ARG might be underrepresented. Please feel free to add new categories to change this! Also, please note that there is no statistical significance concerning the whole of LG15 users to the voting.

== Best Video ==

*Christmas Surprise

*Daniel Returns and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)

*Fleeing the Watchers

*Grillz

*My Difficult Decision

*On the Run

*P*Monkey Boogies

*Poor Pluto

*Proving Longitude Wrong

*Swimming

*The Unthinkable Happened X, X,

*What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?

'''Summary (so far):
*Total nominations: 12
*Total Votes: 64

== Best Moments ==

*Bree: "Cavemen didn’t have the tool of language!” (Daniel the Neanderthal)

*Bree: “Now I’m gonna demonstrate a common but deadly tactic known as the yawn technique. Let’s pretend for the moment that Thor here is a poor unsuspecting girl bear and I’m a not so poor and not so unsuspecting boy bear with questionable motives.” (My First Kiss)

*Daniel: "L'care x,
http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=L%27care

*Daniel: “Today we’re going to learn about the Cornwallis Effect. Isn’t that cool?” (nods while Bree’s face falls into the magazine, probably out of frustration and disbelief) (Proving Science Wrong… with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15)

*The "shot"(?) heard round the Breeniverse (The Unthinkable Happened)

*Daniel: Is that on? Bree: (Looks around, nervous.) No. (The Danielbeast)

*Daniel: "Oranges, ah, here we go. She loves oranges, so let's-- " (Breakfast In Bed)

*Gemma calling P. Monkey a "wanker". (Don't trust the authorities)

*Bree: “P. Monkey and Owen have even offered to room together, so you’ll have your own room. That’s pretty generous.” (Bree Phone Home).

*Bree: “Shower cap? (Bree turns Owen towards the camera, and shakes him, making his head nod.) Check.” (Exploring the Motel)

*”My name is Bree. I’m 16. Um, I don’t really wanna tell you where I live…’cause, you could stalk me.” {image freezes, ‘Psycho’ music plays, and girl screams} (First Blog/Dorkiness Prevails).

*Bree: "Whatever happened to that girl Cassie?" (Swimming)

'''SUMMARY: (so far):'''
*Total nominations: 11
*Total votes: 38

== Best Fan Videos (Video Comment) ==

*"P. Monkey In Charge" - http://one.revver.com/watch/106858 - T.W. Janiak

*"It'sKassie-Scary Dreams"- http://one.revver.com/watch/120633- voyboy

*"Wanker?!?" - http://one.revver.com/watch/98782 -LonesomeOct

*"The Cult's Using Orange!!" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1HBX-f_TrI - dnegroni - HoorayItsMeImMakingOut! (mimo)

*"Dr. Marbella-Removing "Bugs" from Stuffed Friends - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY53_bExubI - Marbella

*"This Is My Story Now" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IcYUifgEfw - cassieiswatching

*"LonelyCrack - Heads Anonymous" - nobby1985

*"Foiling The Black Lodge" - http://one.revver.com/watch/90996 -LordGreystoke

*"Lonelygirl15 Cthulhu Interview" - http://one.revver.com/watch/70358 -LoneseomeOct

*"To LG-15 Bree from Marbella" - http://one.revver.com/watch/110662 -Marbella

*"It's On, Gemma!" - http://one.revver.com/find/title/It's%20On%2C%20Gemma! -LonesomeOct

*"Now Hiring" - http://one.revver.com/watch/105636 - ApotheosisAZX

*"In Stores Now" - http://one.revver.com/watch/128953 - (G Version)-Fan Video Action Figure Playsets!- ApotheosisAZ

*"1-800-kassie" - http://one.revver.com/watch/125566 - Voyboy

*"Re: My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!" aka "I Love Bees I" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdhKY9_ywU

*"Re: Boy Problems..." aka "I Love Bees II" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKvG2bYT2hE

*"Cassie Calls Loveline - Latest Voicemail!" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebSDRspz968 - pcxl-

*"Youtube Auteur" by Terryfic (Aug 7, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDxxuHkUMRI

*"Introducing Paul and Andrea" by PaulMark18 (Sept. 16, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vt9zgQES-E

*"Lady Problems" by ScorchedHotTub (July 18, 2006) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orJeGH3QJRo

'''SUMMARY (so far):'''
*Total nominations: 20
*Total votes: 31 (NOTE: Nominations only are counted as votes!)

== Best Moments on the FORUM==

(Please add these as you like!)

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-27T20:23:06Z

Nobackspacebutton:

Talk:Breaking And Entering

2006-12-22T12:55:38Z

Nobackspacebutton:

what the freak is his obsession with B&E?? I say one of LG15's slogans should be "Cos Breaking and Entering Can Be Fun!" - Nieriel.Manwathiel

I think its great how he breaks in to so many places...but where did he learn all this from? O_O --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 06:55, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Bree Phone Home puzzle

2006-12-19T14:28:39Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Bree's father's message */

In [[Bree Phone Home]], [[Bree]] calls several of her relatives in hopes of finding out what could have happened to her parents. When she dials great uncle [[Franklin]] from San Francisco, her call is picked up by an answering machine for Powell's Dry Cleaners.

==Powell's Dry Cleaners Message==
[[Bree]] said the phone number aloud as she dialed it: 287-0211. Since she mentioned Franklin was in San Francisco, one of the possible area codes was (415). Calling 415-287-0211 allows you to listen to the same message heard by Bree.

::''Hello and thank you for calling Powell's Dry Cleaners. We are open 7 days a week from 9 am until 5 pm. Our current specials are as follows: Dress shirts 3 for $5 with an 8-9 day turn around time. We also offer wash service at a rate of 3 shirts for $12. Please leave a message after the tone and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you.''

===Solution===
The numbers of shirts and days that it will take to clean them are the real message. The message below has the numbers in bold.

::''Hello and thank you for calling Powell's Dry Cleaners. We are open '''7''' days a week from '''9''' am until '''5''' pm. Our current specials are as follows: Dress shirts '''3''' for $'''5''' with an '''8'''-'''9''' day turn around time. We also offer wash service at a rate of '''3''' shirts for $'''12'''. Please leave a message after the tone and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you.''

The numbers are '''7953589312'''. This is not a phone number. However, when reversed, it yields (213)-985-3597, which is indeed a phone number. When this number is dialed, a voice message plays. It is from [[Bree's father]], or someone pretending to be him.

==Bree's father's message==
This is the message heard after dialing (213)-985-3597.

::''Bree, it's your father. If you are listening to this message, you managed to crack my code. Your mother and I are safe but I need to talk to you alone. Confirm that you got this by sending me a secret message back. I'll meet you one week after that at the place where we used to talk about Feynman and Jared Diamond. I know you're confused right now. But all will make sense after we talk. I'll see you soon sweetie.''

===Solution===
Still in progress.

[[Richard Feynman]] is a famous physicist for whom [[Bree]] has great admiration. She quoted him in her blog [[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]], in which she tells a story from his book ''Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman''.

Bree also quotes Jared Diamond ''Guns, Germs and Steel'' in the [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]].

Since [[Bree]] is homeschooled and these readings have benn assumed to be part of her coursework, it's possible that her dad is referring to some place where they used to go to work on her studies. It is still unclear what kind of secret message he wants her to send back.

Some have compared the sound of [[Bree's father]]'s voice to that of [[Brother]] from the [[OpAphid]] and [[Tachyon]] ARG. This might be an attempt from [[Tachyon]] to get in touch with her. [[Tachyon]]'s travels have taken her to San Francisco, where great uncle Franklin was supposed to be.

Also possible is that this could be another trap from [[OpAphid]].

==External links==
*[http://www.acidfingers.com/music/bree_dad.mp3 Listen to the message from Bree's father.]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond Wikipedia article on Jared Diamond]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman Wikipedia article on Richard Feynman]

Bree Phone Home puzzle

2006-12-19T14:28:22Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Bree's father's message */

In [[Bree Phone Home]], [[Bree]] calls several of her relatives in hopes of finding out what could have happened to her parents. When she dials great uncle [[Franklin]] from San Francisco, her call is picked up by an answering machine for Powell's Dry Cleaners.

==Powell's Dry Cleaners Message==
[[Bree]] said the phone number aloud as she dialed it: 287-0211. Since she mentioned Franklin was in San Francisco, one of the possible area codes was (415). Calling 415-287-0211 allows you to listen to the same message heard by Bree.

::''Hello and thank you for calling Powell's Dry Cleaners. We are open 7 days a week from 9 am until 5 pm. Our current specials are as follows: Dress shirts 3 for $5 with an 8-9 day turn around time. We also offer wash service at a rate of 3 shirts for $12. Please leave a message after the tone and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you.''

===Solution===
The numbers of shirts and days that it will take to clean them are the real message. The message below has the numbers in bold.

::''Hello and thank you for calling Powell's Dry Cleaners. We are open '''7''' days a week from '''9''' am until '''5''' pm. Our current specials are as follows: Dress shirts '''3''' for $'''5''' with an '''8'''-'''9''' day turn around time. We also offer wash service at a rate of '''3''' shirts for $'''12'''. Please leave a message after the tone and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you.''

The numbers are '''7953589312'''. This is not a phone number. However, when reversed, it yields (213)-985-3597, which is indeed a phone number. When this number is dialed, a voice message plays. It is from [[Bree's father]], or someone pretending to be him.

==Bree's father's message==
This is the message heard after dialing (213)-985-3597.

::''Bree, it's your father. If you are listening to this message, you managed to crack my code. Your mother and I are safe but I need to talk to you alone. Confirm that you got this by sending me a secret message back. I'll meet you one week after that at the place where we used to talk about Feynman and Jared Diamond. I know you're confused right now. But all make sense after we talk. I'll see you soon sweetie.''

===Solution===
Still in progress.

[[Richard Feynman]] is a famous physicist for whom [[Bree]] has great admiration. She quoted him in her blog [[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]], in which she tells a story from his book ''Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman''.

Bree also quotes Jared Diamond ''Guns, Germs and Steel'' in the [[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]].

Since [[Bree]] is homeschooled and these readings have benn assumed to be part of her coursework, it's possible that her dad is referring to some place where they used to go to work on her studies. It is still unclear what kind of secret message he wants her to send back.

Some have compared the sound of [[Bree's father]]'s voice to that of [[Brother]] from the [[OpAphid]] and [[Tachyon]] ARG. This might be an attempt from [[Tachyon]] to get in touch with her. [[Tachyon]]'s travels have taken her to San Francisco, where great uncle Franklin was supposed to be.

Also possible is that this could be another trap from [[OpAphid]].

==External links==
*[http://www.acidfingers.com/music/bree_dad.mp3 Listen to the message from Bree's father.]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond Wikipedia article on Jared Diamond]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman Wikipedia article on Richard Feynman]

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-18T20:16:44Z

Nobackspacebutton:

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-18T20:16:00Z

Nobackspacebutton: /* Basic Information */

== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
----

Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. She is also known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
----

{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}
{{Userbox Bree}}
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|info = Lonelybeast taught this user about the Cornwallis Effect.
}}<noinclude>[[Category:User templates]]</noinclude>

{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}
{{Userbox Owensad}}

User talk:OwenIsCool

2006-12-15T15:49:33Z

Nobackspacebutton:

Thanks for contributing to the LGpedia.. Thank you especially for working on the Creators' pet project: [[The Story So Far...]] If you take issue with the credibility of some of the information provided in the article, you can edit in references and citations to more hard facts if you prefer. If you can't verify a particular piece of information, question the contributor on their talk page, or the [[Talk:The Story So Far... | talk page]] for '''The Story So Far...''' What elements of the article do currently find questionable? -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 22:09, 18 November 2006 (PST)

Hi, thanks for writing back. I was referring to the [[Watcher]] article, not [[The Story So Far...]]. I'm sorry if I said something confusing or posted the wrong link somehow. I only started watching the series recently, so I've been trying my hand just updating more recent articles and changing minor things on old articles. There are several references on the [[Watcher]] article to the [[The Deacons (commenter)| Deacons (commenter)]] posts and to external websites of questionable veracity (in particular a Geocities website that looks really sketch, for lack of a better word). I moved those under a heading called "Unofficial fan research", but I'm wary of deleting anything because, well, who am I to start junking what other people write? I'm a little worried that the article is starting to become controversial because another anonymous user made some wise-cracking edits because they were skeptical about the content. I'm skeptical about some stuff too, but I was trying to preserve neutrality, so I gave everything a fair chance... but I don't know where to go from here...
Thanks for your help =)
[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:24, 21 November 2006 (CST)

== Re: Gemma Note ==

Alright, that was merely confusion on my part. I thought corner booth meant the corner booth at a bathroom, it could also mean the corner booth near the bathroom in the restaurant. Nice catch. - [[User:FireInside|FireInside]] 22:19, 28 November 2006 (CST)

== tag page ==

[[Lonelygirl15 (tag)]] is a completely unnecessary page. While I think every tag should have a page, I don't think it needs a page separate for the tag itself. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:58, 30 November 2006 (CST)

== Hey Owen ==

Thanks for all the good edits. It's always refreshing to have another good editor on the LGpedia. Big thanks for the heads up about the [[Phorum 3]] -- so weird that such a random page would get hit.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:20, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Thanks for your help on the vandalism stuff. To tell you the truth, when I see spam vandalism by an unregistered user, I check their contribution history, and if it's the first time they've put in an edit, I assume it's probably a post-and-run spammer who won't be back and don't bother giving them a warning. I don't think anything's likely to happen beyond a warning unless they are a repeat offender. If they are a genuine troublemaker, they'd probably get blocked from editing. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 12:39, 1 December 2006 (CST)

==The Deacons (commenter)==
Actually that was an error by me. I was trying to add the template with the Bree's religion index to the page. However it caused a conflict with the graphic on the page so i deleted it again. In that process I guess i was sloppy and took out the header by mistake. It certainly was not a deliberate attempt to make the Deacons more genuine.........infact their existence creates a lot of extra research i could live without.....but they are just so well informed.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 02:51, 2 December 2006 (CST)

== A word about templates ==

I like the fact that you edited all the userboxes into a category, but in the future, keep in mind that those extra line breaks that appear outside of the <noinclude> tags will show up on the pages where the template is used. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 14:20, 4 December 2006 (CST)

Don't worry too much about it, the wiki is new, even the admins are on a bit of a learning curve. The above was just an FYI. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 11:04, 5 December 2006 (CST)

==Owensad==

Thanks for fixing the size. It's pretty easy to make it a userbox -- just use the 'move' tab and move it to [[Template:Userbox Owensad]] and then add it to the list on the Userbox talk page: [[Template_talk:Userbox]]. That's all there is to it!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 08:50, 6 December 2006 (CST)

==Lonelycrack Template==

Ooh, looking forward to this one! --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 00:48, 8 December 2006 (CST)

:Ta-DA! I knew I just had to come up with a good one eventually! Hope you enjoy! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 00:50, 8 December 2006 (CST)

==Contact me==

Hey, OwenIsCool, Please contact me at todd@lonelygirl15.com. I have something I would like to discuss with you. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 09:31, 9 December 2006 (CST)

== Thanks ==
Thanks... --[[User:Demosthenesdown|Demosthenesdown]] 00:15, 10 December 2006 (CST)

== cite.php ==

read your to-do list item about cite.php -- TWJaniak has that on his to-do list. I think he's a little swamped right now as it appears JSmith has left the LGPedia web staff.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:59, 10 December 2006 (CST)

:Awesome, thanks for noticing and letting me know! Naturally, it's not an urgent thing, so I understand he has other stuff to worry about right now. I'll keep a lookout for when this is available, thx! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 14:22, 10 December 2006 (CST)

== Music project ==

Nice looking table. If you would like, I'd be willing to collaborate on this project--I could work on the rows from the bottom up and meet you midway. But I should also ask first--where are you planning on getting the listening links? --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 19:21, 10 December 2006 (CST)

::I like the suggestion to just go with the webpage column--that would also keep people from being frustrated by ''COPYRIGHTED!'' entries. I also like the template idea; a template would be ideal, albeit hard to initially design ;) I'll play around a bit with it. --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 19:43, 10 December 2006 (CST)

:::On second thought, anyone updating a complete list of the LG15 music would have to actually go into the template code anyway--because they wouldn't be making an individual music entry. Perhaps we should just stick with the table. --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 19:51, 10 December 2006 (CST)

::::Here's my very slightly altered version of your table--I mostly just simplified the code to make it more accessible to other people wanting to update it. I'll start working on compiling the most recent videos' music into this format so we can eventually plug it into the table, unless you've figured out a way to manage this using a template. --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 19:59, 10 December 2006 (CST)

:::::Just a thought: they got most of the music from either MySpace or CCMixter.org. Best places to start. On CCMixter the copyright status is always pretty clear, I think. Also, I'm fairly certain that after [[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!) | My Lazy Eye]] none of the music is copyrighted.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 20:13, 10 December 2006 (CST)

{| align=center style="width:750px" border=2
|-
|colspan=5 align=center style="background:#99CCFF"|'''''Soundtrack'''''
|-
! Vlog
! Song
! Artist
! Album
! Website
|-
|[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]
|Crazy
|Gnarls Barkley
|not sure
|Copyrighted
|-
|Purple Monkey
|Son Soo (Treatment)
|Victor
|not sure
|here
|-
|}

I've been playing around with this, borrowing code from the main page, and came up with a new format. I didn't include the album list because I was worried that too few of the songs used would actually be compiled in an album, but I could be wrong, of course. I also combined "songs" and "listen" into one category, as well as "artist" and "webpage." With this format, I think all we would have to do is come up with the links and then list the information under each column. Let me know what you think! --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 03:09, 11 December 2006 (CST)

:My thought on where to put this: I would be fine with just replacing the current information that exists on the [[LG15 Music]] page. There is good information there right now, but it would basically be covered in a much more parsimonious form via the website links. --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 13:10, 11 December 2006 (CST)


{|style="border-spacing:8px;margin:0px -8px"

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{|width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa"
!

<h2 style="margin:0;background-color:#cef2e0;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #a3bfb1;text-align:left;color:#000;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Vlog</h2>
|-
|style="color:#000"|

#[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]
#[[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]]
#[[School Work in Summer... BLECHH!!!]]
#[[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.]]
#[[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]]
#[[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]]
#[[He Said, She Said]]
#[[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!)]]
#[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]]
#[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]] (YouTube version)
#[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]] (Revver version)
#[[Daniel The Neanderthal]] (YouTube version)
#[[Daniel The Neanderthal]] (Revver version)
#[[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]]
#[[A Peace Offering (and P. Monkey Boogies)]]
#[[Swimming!]]

|-
|}
|class="MainPageBG" style="width:33%;border:1px solid #cedff2;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top"|
{| width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff"
!

<h2 style="margin:0;background-color:#cedff2;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #a3b0bf;text-align:left;color:#000;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Song</h2>
|-
|style="color:#000"|

*Crazy
*[http://ccmixter.org/people/victor/victor_-_Son_Soo_(Treatment).mp3 Son Soo (Treatment)]
*Working for the Man
*Grillz
*Zipper and Jeans
*[http://ccmixter.org/people/beatgorilla/beatgorilla_-_Brilliant_Daze_(days_are_confused_mix).mp3 Brilliant Daze (Days Are Confused mix)]
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/files/Pitx/6465 Good Morning]
*Promiscuous
*The Truth
*[http://mp3download.myspace.com/music.ashx?bandid=10810354&songid=1128045&name=10810354_15e1c374 Office Suite Part I]
*The Bandit
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/files/mcjackinthebox/6098 Remained]
*Leave Me Alone
*[http://ccmixter.org/people/beatgorilla/beatgorilla_-_Razor_Sharp_(Hyper_Hood_Mix).mp3 Razor Sharp (Hyper Hood Mix)]
*[http://mp3download.myspace.com/music.ashx?bandid=2272441&songid=1797089&name=2272441_c256d4bf All OK]
*[http://mp3download.myspace.com/music.ashx?bandid=2336500&songid=19269054&name=2336500_dfa027d0 Junkie]

|-
|}
|class="MainPageBG" style="width:33%;border:1px solid #ddcef2;background-color:#faf5ff;vertical-align:top"|
{| width="100%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#faf5ff"
!

<h2 style="margin:0;background-color:#ddcef2;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #afa3bf;text-align:left;color:#000;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Artist</h2>
|-
|style="color:#000"|

*[http://www.gnarlsbarkley.com/ Gnarls Barkley]
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/people/victor Victor]
*[http://www.orbison.com Roy Orbison]
*[http://www.myspace.com/nelly Nelly]
*[http://www.myspace.com/harlantbobo Harlan T Bobo]
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/people/beatgorilla Beat Gorilla]
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/files/Pitx Pitx]
*[http://www.myspace.com/nellyfurtado Nelly Furtado]
*[http://www.myspace.com/mauf MAUF]
*[http://myspace.com/thematthewshow The Matthew Show]
*[http://www.myspace.com/starlightmints Starlight Mints]
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/people/mcjackinthebox MC Jack in the Box]
*SPY
*[http://ccmixter.org/media/people/beatgorilla Beat Gorilla]
*[http://www.myspace.com/somethingforrockets Something For Rockets]
*[http://www.myspace.com/thejanedoes The Jane Doe's]

|}
|}

::OIC, just a heads up... at least on my browser the videos don't line up with the bands and music. It seems to me that a table might end up being simpler than the three parallel columns.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:38, 12 December 2006 (CST)

:::Uh-oh, good catch. So I've been using my browser full screen the whole time and what you said made me think... what if I don't fullscreen... and they don't align then either =( Maybe I'll have to work on the table after all. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:06, 12 December 2006 (CST)

::::Oh yuck, now with the longer video titles, it doesn't align on my browser either. Oh well, the hard part is getting the information together... moving it over to a table won't be that much work. And the above msg was way incoherent. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 02:06, 13 December 2006 (CST)

:::::Wow, OIC, the creators are going to have to give you a trophy or something for all this work!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:03, 13 December 2006 (CST)

::::::Table 3.0 is a thing of beauty.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:26, 13 December 2006 (CST)

:::::::Yay, I'm glad you like it! Do you think this might be good enough to stick with? (aside from perhaps some color changes). It was a bit of a pain to move the info over so I want to settle on a design before adding more content. This is about as far as my table skills go right now... if there's any other way you know of to improve it, by all means have at it!
:::::::lol, a trophy... I'd be happy with a little userbox trophy. Maybe I'll go procrastinate on that later... [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:30, 13 December 2006 (CST)

::::::::Yeah, it definitely looks good enough to stick with. Funny story, I got a MySpace friend request from Jacqueline Nassar (I guess because we're both friends with Bree), the House Arrest music girl -- she's a 15-year-old songwriter. How good is that music for a 15-year-old?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 02:25, 15 December 2006 (CST)

:::::::::Wow, crazy. Hey, now that you two are buds... maybe you could get her to put the House Arrest song back up so we can link to it, or so it's at least on her myspace when people go there from this site. I'm sure they' like to hear the whole song even if they can't dl it. That is amazing for a 15yr-old, I hope we get more music from her! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 03:15, 15 December 2006 (CST)

==Cite.php==

I tried adding [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php Cite.php] to the LGpedia a few weeks ago. I downloaded, installed and configured all the necessary files on the server, but when I went live with the changes, the LGpedia crashed and burned. I don't know what went wrong, but I plan on trying again in the next few days. I feel a functional citation system has become a necessity. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 22:28, 12 December 2006 (CST)

:'''UPDATE:''' The Cite.php extension has been added. Now you you can make footnotes to your heart's content! -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 14:33, 13 December 2006 (CST)

::Thank you! I saw you told JayHenry that you had to upgrade the whole 'pedia. Wow... can't have been a snap, thanks for making it happen! I shall faithfully implement citations now. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 19:37, 13 December 2006 (CST)

Kool Twj, you should do Lgpedia more ofton when u can that is...--Iris2009 14:42, 13 December 2006 (CST)

== Thank You ==

Hey there. =) Thank you for all your help. I just wanted to let you know that it was appreciated.

---[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 09:49, 15 December 2006 (CST)

User talk:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-15T15:24:16Z

Nobackspacebutton:

Hey Nobackspacebutton, glad to see you at LGPedia. I moved your personal page from an article to a user page. --[[User:Treefunk|Treefunk]] 12:51, 9 December 2006 (CST)

Thank you for your help! =) --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 09:28, 13 December 2006 (CST)

== Userboxes ==

Hey BA,
I noticed your interest in Userbox templates and that you had some problems adding the lonelybeast and P.Monkey one. To add those you can simply type Userbox Pmonkeyworld and Userbox Lonelybeast in between the "{{ }}". You don't need to add all the code. I was pretty slow on the uptake when it came to templates, so what I did was when I saw one that I liked on someone's page, I'd click the edit link so I could see how they put it in. Thought I'd share that since it would have saved me some time if I'd known! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 02:02, 15 December 2006 (CST)

Thank you very much! I'm a little new to all this. =) --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 09:24, 15 December 2006 (CST)

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-14T16:39:38Z

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User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-14T16:23:59Z

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== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
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Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. She is also known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
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{{Userbox FanDate|My Parents Suck video}}
{{Userbox Bree}}
{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}
{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox Jonasslurpee}}
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User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-14T16:20:46Z

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== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
----

Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for posting screen caps of the current video, enhancing them, and tediously searching the backgrounds for anything of 'significance'. She is also known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
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{{Userbox FanDate|August}}
{{Userbox Bree}}
{{Userbox BreeDark}}
{{Userbox Longitude|-76.13}}
{{Userbox Owensad}}
{{Userbox Jonasslurpee}}
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|id = [[Image:PMonkey_world_domination.jpg|55px]]
|info = This user fears [[Purple Monkey]] plans to take over the world.
}}<noinclude>[[Category:User templates]]</noinclude>

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-14T16:17:07Z

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User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-14T16:12:55Z

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2006-12-14T16:12:23Z

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Talk:Gemma, Who Are You?

2006-12-14T15:21:28Z

Nobackspacebutton:

There was a note that said "it is believed that this is filmed in Bree's room." Not likely. For one thing, you can see that this bed is centered against the wall, not in the corner -- this has always been the layout of Daniel's room. In the opening shot, you can see a picture leaning against the wall to the right of the bed and you can see this room is wider that Bree's room, and you can also see the corner of the bed frame -- clearly a different bed frame than in the Bree's room. Although I'm not 100 percent sure, I'd wager that this is a queen bed, whereas Bree's room clearly had a full.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 08:41, 14 December 2006 (CST)

I completely agree. --[[User:Nobackspacebutton|Nobackspacebutton]] 09:21, 14 December 2006 (CST)

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-13T15:42:07Z

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2006-12-13T15:37:17Z

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User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-13T15:37:04Z

Nobackspacebutton: