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2008-02-04T13:18:48Z

DrZoidberg: /* Unseen Characters */

== Character categories ==

Okay, with the addition of the "Random Girl" character, I wonder about a number of things. (I was about to make a page for her, but then I realized that if she will not be recurring, all one needs to know about her is on the [[Truth Or Dare]] page.) Does she need her own category on this page? If so, is this the right category? It occurs to me that while "Supporting Characters" says "nor do they have speaking parts in general", in fact, I'm pretty sure this is the first time any non-blogging character has spoken on camera. While she is supposedly only appearing in this one video, in a way she has a status above Bree's parents or Lucy because of this fact. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 18:04, 19 January 2007 (CST)

:I think the Guest characters section is a good idea. Random Girl's role is really quite different than any of the other supporting characters. Plus, who knows... we may be having more such guest characters. That would be interesting! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 12:22, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Should "The Cowboy" be added to this page? Also, should this cowboy have his on page? -- [[User:LGFAN|LGFAN]] 11:02, 5 February 2007 (CST)

:The Cowboy should definitely be on here. For now I just linked him to the video [[The Cowboy]] but since it looks like he's going to be making a few more appearances we should probably create a "The Cowboy (character)" page, or actually, we should move the video to "The Cowboy (video)" as we did with [[Purple Monkey (video)]] and [[Aleister Crowley (Video)]]. Hmm... just noticed our capitalization is inconsistent. Video should be lowercase.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:13, 5 February 2007 (CST)

:That sounds good. I also figured it was too early to make an article for the cowboy, especially since all we know about him is pretty much summarized in "The Cowboy" video. I kinda jumped the gun with Uncle Franklin and that was pointless =(
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:03, 5 February 2007 (CST)

shouldnt we add like a whatever u would call it section for like all the canon people that just post the videos like tachyon and brother?

:Yeah, we definitely need to add them... I guess I'm still sorta in denial that they're canon. Ugh.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:41, 13 February 2007 (CST)
::Amen to that JayBrotha haha. [[User:HyeMew|HyeMew]] 18:43, 13 February 2007 (CST)

:::Hows that? --[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 18:47, 13 February 2007 (CST)

== Gemma ==

Shouldn't Alex replace gemma as a main character by now?

:Alex hasn't even made a blog. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:58, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

Well, shouldn't Gemma be at least moved out of Main Char.'s section considering she isn't on the main page with BD&J anymore? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:35, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

ok now that we finished with the list of videos redesign, i thought, ok its time for a redesign of the list of characters. So I created a redesign page. ignore the stuff i did at first, it was just to get something started and is totally lame. can someone with some design talent work on it? -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:45, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
:: The redesign is live, I'd like to thank everyone for thier help. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 10:42, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

what about the creators?--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 16:34, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

:This page is for characters ''within'' the series, not people who help make it. In other words, these are characters in the [[Breeniverse]]. [[The Creators]] don't fall in that group.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 21:31, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

== Other Blogging Characters ==

It's now obvious that Nikki B, Jules and taylor are all now canon character so they balong on the list of characters. The description under ARG characters best fit those videos, so i figured they bleonged in that group, but there is no more ARG, and these characters were never part of the ARG, so I renamed the group "other blogging character", which would be more apropriate. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 11:43, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

I cropped the pictures of Carl and Sonia so they would fit better -[[User:FH14|FH14]] 3:01, 05 June 2007 (EST)

== Animal Characters? ==

Animals don't have pages, with the exception of [[Gemma's dog]], and they aren't "characters" persay. But if it is necessary, then by all means, tell me. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 15:18, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
:I've actually been building pages for [[Gemma's dog]], [[Piglet]], and [[Colossus]]. It might be kind of neat to include them at this point... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:11, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::If stuffed animals have pages, real animals should certainly get them. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 01:15, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
Is it Just Me, or are the boxes screwed up for the Animals. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 12:12, 17 June 2007 (EST)

Fixed. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:52, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

== Cool Page ==

I really like the design of this page! The pictures are awesome. :) [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 14:13, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

== Trivial characters ==

There has been an increase of trivial characters added to this page that I think should be removed. Just because someone is mentioned in passing (e.g. Sam). doesn't make them a character. I think we need to limit this page to characters that matter to the plot. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 17:40, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, but how about we keep them on THIS page and take out the links in their name, since some of the characters (like Sarah's Jay) have all the information we currently have on them in their little boxes anyway. That way, we don't get redundant character pages that only have a sentence or two. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:18, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::I don't think they belong on this page even. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 21:16, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:Well, this ''is'' an encyclopdia. We've got to be comprehensive without being redundant. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:21, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
:: I suppose you think we should have a character box for Rosencrantz, Gildenstern, Alestair Crowley and Pluto. All of those as as much LG15 characters as Sam, Jay and Gemma's flatmate. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 22:24, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::: As I see it, this is absolutely non-negotiable. There is no other Lonelygirl15 wiki and we have to be comprehensive. If you would like minor characters to be listed, rather than put in boxes, okay. But deleting minor characters is absolutely unacceptable. There's nowhere else that has the functionality to track the minutiae of the series -- that's our purpose. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:27, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
::: There's no page about Crowley or Pluto?!?!? --[[User:Truncatedslinky|slinky]] 01:17, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
::::Yes, there is a page about [[Aleister Crowley]], there's a page for [[Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead]], but there's not a character box as their are not essentially characters. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 10:23, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
Wel;l since everyone seems to think that trivial characters belong, I made a separate catagory for them since the don't meet with the criteria of "mentioned in several of the videos" for Unseen characters. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 17:37, 8 July 2007 (CDT)

=='Stuffed' Characters??==
I like the addition of Taylor's trolls, but since they aren't really 'stuffed,' is there a possible solution for the category with a misnomer-ish title? "Toy Characters" perhaps? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:27, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

:That's not a bad idea.. does anyone have any thoughts about this? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:25, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

== Official character colors ==

It has become apparent that we need to establish official colors for each character. That color should be used everywhere that color is used to represent character/actor, and should be unique to that actor. once established, I propse, that there should be a rule that no changes can be made unless there is a consensus after a minimum of 3 days of discussion on this page. Currently the colors are
{|
| Bree = '''[[Bree|DeepPink]]'''
| Daniel = '''[[Daniel|MidnightBlue]]'''
| Jonas = '''[[Jonas|DarkOrange]]'''
| OpAphid = '''[[OpAphid|#627d6d]]'''
|-
| Gemma = '''[[Gemma|CornflowerBlue]]'''
| Tachyon = '''[[Tachyon|#B7D5B9]]'''
| Brother = '''[[Brother|#61B167]]'''
| Nikki Bower = '''[[Nikki Bower|DarkViolet]]'''
|-
| Owen = '''[[Owen|Green]]'''
| P. Monkey = '''[[P. Monkey|Purple]]'''
| Thor = '''[[Thor|Crimson ]]'''
|Daniel's puppy = '''[[Daniel's puppy|Chocolate]]'''
|-
| Jules = '''[[Jules|LightSalmon]]'''
| Sarah = '''[[Sarah| #976]]'''
| Taylor = '''[[Taylor|SkyBlue]]'''
| Spencer = '''[[Spencer|LimeGreen]]'''
|-
| Lucy = '''[[Lucy|Orange]]'''
| Alex = '''[[Alex|Red]]'''
| Carl = '''[[Carl| DarkOliveGreen ]]'''
| Sonia = '''[[Sonia|Plum]]'''

|}
Please Propose any additions/Changes. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 06:45, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

:I support the idea that each character/actor has a unique color. That said, I also restate my opinion that I would like to see a bigger difference between Bree's and Jules' colors, since they are rather similar looking on the videolist. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:01, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

'''Ideas for Jules:''' 
'''lightsalmon''' 
'''lightcoral''' 
'''tomato''' 
'''palevioletred''' 
'''goldenrod''' 
'''darksalmon''' 
'''thistle''' 

:: I can get more if no one likes these.. but what do people think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:19, 3 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I was going to suggest '''salmon''', but '''lightsalmon''' is good too. How about '''LimeGreen''' for Spenser since '''Lime''' is too bright -[[User:Misty|misty]] 12:35, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

Lightsalmon ('''CMJ''') and LimeGreen ('''LALR''') sound good to me! Any last minute objections, or should I go ahead and make the changes? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:34, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
:I'm happy with Lightsalmon and LimeGreen as well, even though I'm still wary about Spence's initial (but that's another story :) )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:44, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

::Okay, going ahead and making the changes! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:06, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

:: OK a couple more suggestions, Carl = '''DarkOliveGreen''' , Sarah = '''RosyBrown''' , Daniels Puppy = '''Chocolate''', Taylor's Troll Dolls = '''Fuchsia --[[User:Misty|misty]] 20:31, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
:Cool colors, Misty! (But I like Sarah's current color) How do you even know those guys exist?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:11, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
well I'm going to interpret this as support for the changes, pheon it didn't seem to me you were trying to object to changing sarah, if i'm wrong correct me. SO I'm adding them to the list and with no objections I'll make the changes al around tomarrow -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:05, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
:I would have to say I agree with Pheon, I'm not crazy about the new Sarah color. I think we should stick with what we had for her. The rest look good! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yes, to clarify, I'd ask to keep Sarah's colors as is. But I will say I enjoy the other changes --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:18, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Misty, I saw that you made the changes for Sarah's color, but I was under the impression that the consensus was to leave it as is? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 12:47, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

I have reverted Sarah's color, as the consensus was to leave it as is. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:25, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

Ok we need to think about colors for the KM characters, and Warpylol needs a color I'm going to make suggestions tomorrow but I thought I would give someone else the chance to jump in first. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:05, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

:Okay, with KateModern, I actually made all the pages in that '''ae2301''' color on PURPOSE. I felt like it gave it some uniformity (and I know how much you like uniformity ;)) within the series and just kept everything neaty and tighty and.. from getting overly complicated. Maybe that color could become the official "KateModern Project" character color? And what about '''ForestGreen''' for War? I'm pretty sure we don't have that color yet... and it seems... "suiting"? Ugh I need to go to bed now, this probably wasn't terribly coherant, but hopefully it all made sense and sounds good :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

== Issac Gillman? ==

He should be under unseen characters, right? Yes, he has been "heard" in a voicemail, but that shouldn't count. I'm getting the official O.K. from everyone now before I do anything. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:28, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
:: I agree. I can also se the other side, he is after all dead., but personally I don't think the fact of his dying is merits promoting him to a higher catagory. -Misty[[User:Misty|misty]] 04:12, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
::: Exactly, I see what you mean. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 04:15, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
:::: Even though he isn't ''that'' noteworthy, he ''is'' deceased. If you put a deceased character in the unseen category, it totally defeats the purpose of categorizing characters. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:34, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

== The L is Missing ==

Maybe it is just my computer but the L in List is missing when i go on this because it is hidden or cut off. - [[Houdini]]
:Hmmm . . . I seem to be getting the same thing too.--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:21, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::The L is cut off on my computer as well. I think it is hidden. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 21:06, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

== Meep! ==

I added Daniel's grandma (as mentioned in [[Comfort Food]]) to the Trivial Characters section, and the characterboxes are now over to the right, and the Trivial Characters section is messed up. Help? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 14:07, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

== Deacons + unseen = meep! ==

I'm pretty sure that the Deacons are ''not'' unseen characters. Bree told us that the Deacons (and the Elders) were at [[the Ceremony]] (the fake Ceremony, that is), plus the individual Deacon that [[Kenneth Goodfried]] portrays is in [[On The Run]] and [[The Unthinkable Happened]], alongside [[Lucy]]. I'm going to move them to Guest Characters. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:02, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

== LaRezisto ==

I would add LaRezisto myself, but I'm not exactly sure where to put him (maybe Supporting Characters), and I would probably mess the whole page up. Help? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 00:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== DB's folks ==

We did technically see an arm & shoulder of Daniel's dad. Does that move him and/or Daniel's parents from "Unseen" to "Guest" ?? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 11:00, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
:I think that merits Daniel's Dad to get moved to seen. --[[User:FH14|FH14]]

== Mallory ==
[[Image:0274-MallorySmiling-Cropped.jpg|thumb|right|125px|Mallory picture]]

If you need to promote [[Mallory]] from unseen to supporting then here is a cropped picture in the right ratio. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 17:50, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

--Has Mall always been a supporting char? or only after Daniel found that she was cheating on him? [[User:Surfthetsu|Surfthetsu]]

==Former Character Section?==
The Supporting Characters Section is getting quite bulky. Maybe we could make a "former characters" section for characters who will most likely not appear in the series again but aren't deceased (i.e. Alex, Jules, amd *sob* Spencer; plus, it might be a better place to put OpAphid, Brother, and Tachyon.) What does everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 20:48, 10 September 2007 (EST)
:Added Section, though the alignment seems to be a bit off. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 16:35, 11 September 2007 (EST)

== Supporting Characters ==

So, I've been thinking about this a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that we have been a bit over-zealous as we've been adding characters to the "Supporting Characters" section. To me, a supporting character is someone who has "been in many video blogs" and "contribues to the plot". Just because Carla and Toby appeared in two video blogs, doesn't qualify them as significant supporting characters, imo. They were both cameo roles, and did not contribute a great deal to the plot either way. I mean, Watchers are still under guest characters, even though we've seen them a lot more, ''and'' they've contributed a great deal more to the plot. I just cannot see justification for Carla and Toby being up there. I also removed Jonas's parents from that list, at least for now. They seem to be phasing out as Emma moves on and joins TAAG. They have been only in a few videos, and just don't seem important enough for now to constitute a top-spot listing on the character page. Hey, I am actually hesistant about leaving Mallory up there, but I thought I would give her some time... I have a feeling she may grow into something more significant, so I didn't want to remove her just yet.

I was also kind of iffy on Barb, but she has appeared in a number of videos, and along with Carl and Sonia at Jonas's parent's house that one time. Depending on how much playtime she gets in the future, I might be able to see moving her down, but for now, I thought I'd leave her up there, since she seems to be part of the "young Hymn of Oneies" along with Carl and Sonia.

Anyways, I just wanted to explain my changes to you. I'd love to hear thoughts and feedback on this. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:15, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:I agree, Zoey. We've been adding to the Supporting Characters section a lot lately. Currently these are the people that are in the section:
*[[Lucy]]
*[[Nikki Bower]]
*[[Carl]]
*[[Sonia]]
*[[Barb]]
*LaRezisto
*[[Emma]]
*[[Mallory]]
Actually, now I see that someone cleaned up the section. I'm fine with Lucy, Nikki B, Carl, Sonia, LaRezisto, Emma, and Mallory staying (Mallory's only been in two videos but I think she is something important). I mean, Barb ''has'' been in a lot of videos, but does she contribute to the plot as much as Carl or Sonia? I don't think so. She's just another Hymnie! And about Watchers... does anyone think that maybe instead of Barb we could have Watchers up there since we've seen like a million Watchers? I like the idea of it. [[User:72.95.224.117|72.95.224.117]] 10:49, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I'm fine with moving down Barb, if that's what people agree on. She was iffy for me, I wasn't sure. I wasn't trying to make an argument for moving Watchers up though. I think they're too... mysterious at this point. Plus, with [[Shadows]] coming in and all, who knows which Order members will be most important... oh, and also, they're like.. a group of people.. not just.. one person. And yeah, I don't think we should move Watchers up, but I'm okay with moving Barb down. What do y'all think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:46, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
::: I agree! And I'll be more careful about the KM people too - I got a bit overzealous earlier tonight! -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 16:19, 23 September 2007 (CDT)
:::: I still think that Watchers should be in the Supporting Characters section. Seriously... lately, Watchers have been popping up in just about every video - there's Watchers in KM now too (Michelle Clore's bodyguards)! Anyhow, Watchers have been around since GEMMA... think how long ago that was... and they still make regular appearances and contributions to the plot. Barb can be moved down, and replaced with Watchers? Also - a quick thing, I don't think Spencer's coming back. We should move him from Main Characters to Former Characters. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 08:58, 24 September 2007 (CDT)
::::: I agree with everything that has been said... well, except for the Barb thing (with the watchers I'm not leaning either way). She isn't just another Hymn of Oneian, (like Chris), she has appeared numerous times in Bree's recruitment videos and possibly was the fifth person at the table in "The Family Affair". Also, May I be so bold as to suggest that Emma be moved to the main character section? --{[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:44, 25 September 2007 (EST)

Thoughts:
:Barb, yes she's been in a few videos, but I'm actually thinking she should be taken down on further speculation. She hasn't really contributed to the plot. I mean, think of her compared to Carl or Sonia. She just isn't contributing enough yet. I think that for now, I'd move her down... and if she becomes a more prominent character in the future, it can be reconsidered then, methinks.

:Watchers still against this. They really are just a ''series'' of characters who lurk in the background. They dont contribute much to the plot other than scaring the group into running. With the Shadows and all the other crazy order members coming out of the woodworks, I just dont think Watchers need to be up on this list right now.

:Spencer - Yeah, he should be moved down to former characters and taken off the front page/top characters for the navigation bar etc. He will still be on the navigation bar though.. ugh this might be easier to just do and get opinions on after the fact.

:Emma - Not quite enough of her yet to officialy make her worthy of main characters.

:Now I need sleep. So I'll make some of these changes and we can talk on the talk page in the mean time. Just to get it up and see what everybody thinks. Can be reverted if there is serious objection tommorow for further discussion!

--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:33, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

==Status Changes==
Should Claire be added to Supporting Characters? She has had a major impact on the story, a few appearances, and a likelihood for a larger future role... what does everyone else think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 20:21, October 1 2007 (EST)
:EDIT: I'd also like to propose that Nikki Bower and Taylor be moved to former characters for now, seeing as they haven't been seen in a WHILE, until further notice. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:06, 4 October 2007 (EST)

==My List For Statuses==
I have prepared a whole list of characters for their "statuses" or categories, I guess. Here they are.
:Main Characters
::[[Daniel]], [[Jonas]], [[Sarah]], [[Emma]], and [[Mallory]]
:Supporting Characters
::[[Lucy]], [[Nikki Bower]], [[Carl]], [[Sonia]], [[Watcher|Watchers]], [[Claire]], and LaRezisto
:Missing or Deceased Characters
::[[Bree]], [[Bree's parents#Father|Drew Avery]], [[Gemma]], [[Alex's parents]], [[Daniel's grandma]], and [[Isaac Gilman]]
:Former Characters
::[[OpAphid]], [[Tachyon]], [[Brother]], [[Jules]], [[Taylor]], [[Alex]], and [[Spencer]]
:Stuffed Characters
::[[Purple Monkey]], [[Owen]], [[Thor]], [[The Other Monkey]], [[Daniel's puppy]], [[Taylor's Troll Dolls]], and [[the Dancing Turtle]]
:Guest Characters
::[[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mom]], [[Deacon|Deacons]], [[Random Girl]], [[The Cowboy (character)|the Cowboy]], [[The party guests#David|David]], [[The party guests#Damien|Damien]], [[Carla]], [[Toby]], [[The party guests#Beth|Beth]], [[The party guests#Will|Will]], [[The party guests#Finn|Finn]], [[The party guests#Claudia|Claudia]], [[The party guests#|Seth|Seth]], [[Cameron]], [[Rebecca]], [[Jennifer]], [[Barb]], [[Chris]], [[The Mistress (character)|the Mistress]], [[Terry]], [[Shadow|Shadows]], [[Elder|Elders]], [[Swallow]], [[Jerry]], [[Jonas's parents|Jonas's dad]], [[Jonas's parents|Jonas's mom]], [[Jill]], [[Adopting couple|the adopting couple]], [[Daniel's parents|Daniel's dad]], [[Mark]], and [[Steve (lonelygirl15)|Steve]]
:Animal Characters
::[[Gemma's dog]], [[Sascha]], [[Warwalking|Kitty!]], [[Piglet]], [[Colossus]], [[Herman]], and [[Shadow of Death|the Coyote]]
:Unseen Characters
::[[Cassie]], [[Paul]], [[Andrea]], [[Daniel's parents|Daniel's mom]], [[Gemma's Mom|Gemma's mom]], [[Bree's parents#Bree's biological parents|Bree's birth parents]], [[Franklin]], [[Jules's Parents|Jules's parents]], [[Taylor and Sarah's Parents|Taylor and Sarah's parents]], [[Samantha|Taylor's BFF Sam]], [[Spencer's mom]], and [[Scott]]
:Trivial Characters
::[[Gemma's flatmate]], [[Gemma|Gemma's crush Sam]], [[Walter]], [[Kira]], [[Relationships#Sarah and Jay|Jay]], [[Relationships#Sarah and Jay|Vanessa]], [[Relationships#Sarah and the bartender|the bartender]], [[Relationships#Sarah and the bartender|Britanny]], [[Perry]], [[D-C-cubed]], [[Ira Cronenberg]], [[Jack]], [[Relationships#Sarah and Joe|Joe]], and [[Garett Lovett]]
:Ambiguous Mystery People
::[[Bukanator]]
So, I hope that helped a bit. Just my opinions.
::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 14:25, 14 October 2007 (CDT)

==Watchers and Supporting Characters==
I know, there's about 15 sections discussing status changes, but because there's been so much desputing over The Watchers and Supporting Characters. Now I know Zoey's put her foot down about this because watchers are a group and not an individual character, and I agree with this. But I know some people are still strongly believe that the watchers belong there. I got to thinking, Maybe a separate page could be created for the Watcher played by Joe Rubin as, unlike other watchers, He's had a speaking part and had a somewhat individual involvement in the plot. I dunno. It's just an idea. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 10:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

==Recurring Character Section?==
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally decided to propose it: a Recurring Character Section. I know what some of you may be thinking: Supporting and Recurring Characters are the same thing. Well, some do consider them the same thing, but they can also be used to classify two different categories. If considered two categories, then ''Supporting Characters'' would be considered characters that appear a good amount and contribute to the plot, though not to the extent of the main characters. (i.e. Lucy, Nikki B, Sonia, Carl, etc.) ''Recurring Characters'' are characters who appear more than normal guest characters but have less of an impact than Supporting Characters. (i.e. Jonas's Parents, Chris, Barb, etc.) What does everyone else think? (BTW, even though I'm the one proposing this, I'm on the fence about it) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 12:02, 3 November 2007 (EST)
:I was acutally thinking about the same thing. '''Strong support.'''
::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 13:08, 4 November 2007 (CST)
Eh, I'm not so sure about this... I kind of feel like we have WAY more sections than we need as is. I've actually been thinking of ways to ''condense'' the sections instead of expand them... but that's just me? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:30, 10 November 2007 (CST)

== Condensing the Character List ==

In my opinion, the character list is a mess. We have so many categories that overlap, it's just a nightmare to try and figure out where to put things. So I want to simplify it. Here are my thoughts:
*We should combine former characters with the Missing and Deceased characters into one big "Former Characters" category with a description of "For various reasons, these former characters no longer appear in the series." That way we don't have to worry about whether they're dead or not, we just know that they're not appearing in the series anymore. And we can also get rid of all those ugly boxes with the "No picture available" and just move them down to unseen characters, where they really do belong, as they are unseen. We, as an audience, have no real emotional connection to them.
*I'm having a tough time understanding the difference between unseen and trivial characters. I just.. where do you draw the line? And how do you know? I mean, Gemma's mom is pretty trivial at this point in the story, but back then for all we know she could have developed into more. I think it makes most sense to just combine the two and not worry about how significant they are, otherwise we're going to drive ourselves nuts on a case-by-case situation.
*I also think we should better define what makes a character as far as Animal Characters and Stuffed Characters goes. My thoughts:
**P Monkey, Owen, and Thor were characters. they were Bree's friends. She gave them names and personalities. T.O.M., Daniel's puppy, Taylor's troll dolls, and The Dancing Turtle, they were props. They were gifts, they were something to snuggle with at night maybe. But they were just toys. They had no names, they were not personified in any way. They were not characters.
**For animal characters, the same thing should apply that does for human characters. A person's pet or an animal they have a significant emotional attatchment to is a character. A random kitty you see on the side of the street isn't. Like if Bree pointed at someone and said tall! that wouldnt make "Tall man" a character. It would just make him someone she observed.

I think these changes will help clean up the page and make it more understandable to new people who are trying to make sense of things. I'd love to hear your thoughts before I go ahead and make the changes though, so please comment! Thanks! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:53, 10 November 2007 (CST)
:I see what you mean. Here's my take on it:
::1) I agree that the trivial and unseen characters should be combined.
::2) Maybe we could create a condensed list page of characters... that sounded weird... I mean like how most of the party guests don't have their own page, and their info is on the party guests page... ugh... I'm having a hard time explaining this. I'm going to try to design what I'm trying to say on my sandbox... --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)
::Okay. Basically, [[User:FH14/sandbox|here]]'s what I'm suggesting for the Stuffed Characters, and maybe others... --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:50, 10 November 2007 (EST)
Hm, I'm not really sure how I feel about that actually. I feel like characters ''should'' be a total comprehensive list. I just think we need to define what makes a character. I mean, how is Daniel's puppy any more of a character than... Jonas's boxing gloves? Or his guitar? I mean, that just doesn't make sense to me. I'm also not crazy about dividing the guest characters into season one and season two, because there's already a fair amount of overlap and... how do we treat those characters? I feel like that will get messy and end up making things harder instead of easier... that's just me though. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:14, 10 November 2007 (CST)
::I actually agree with you on the guest characters thing (I was just seeing how it would look). Random Thought: Maybe there should be a non-human character section combining the Animal and Stuffed Character Sections. Maybe There should be a "Props" page too. I'm sorry, I'm rambling X_X --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 16:36, 10 November 2007 (EST)
:::Non-human characters isn't a bad idea! But I still think we need to stick with what the definition of a character actually is. And I think props page would probably be taking things too far. Can you imagine? Every single prop that appears in a video? Eek, my brain aches just thinking of all the trouble that could cause.. :X --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:41, 10 November 2007 (CST)

== New Look ==

Looks awesome! Love the former characters and non-human characters, but why is Virgil a supporting character? And is there a reason we don't have the picture of [[Gemma's dog]] and [[Herman]] the squirrel? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 21:21, 16 November 2007 (CST)

== Chris ==

Should Chris be moved to Supporting Characters? His role has been semi-prominent lately... What does everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)
*I don't know, I think he should be at the same level as Barb. [[User:72.95.224.117|72.95.224.117]] 12:00, 22 November 2007 (CST)
:I agree that he's not a supporting character yet, he needs to be in more videos first. The supporting characters need to have a certain prominence in the overall storyline in order to get there, if you ask me. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 19:04, 24 November 2007 (CST)

== Mallory and Taylor ==

So I know some people have been pushing to bump Taylor up to "Main Characters" but I do not think this is accurate. She is currently a supporting character. She posts vidoes from Zavalla giving them advice, but she's not a main member of TAAG, she's not actually /living/ the drama. And I know that right now everyone is seperated, but really, they all call California home right now, but Taylor, she doesn't. I just see her as a supporting character.

That said, I actually think it's time to move Mallory down to a supporting character as well. Right now she just exists to be Daniel's girlfriend... "Support" his role. She's not fighting the Order really, she's off doing her own life and just pops up to do girlfriendly things. I don't really know how to explain it better than that, but really, she ''has'' dropped to supporting in my mind.

So I think I'm going to move Mallory down to supporting... and I'm actually going to move Virgil down to guest again. Because unless he comes back and starts appearing in more videos long term, he could only even ''possibly'' be considered "supporting" during his own arc. In fact, I suppose there's always the chance that if Mallory leaves after she and Daniel break up (I'm sure Daniel will realize she's having an affair... ahem xD) then she might need to be moved down too. But since we originally treated her as "main" I say we can give her the benefit of the doubt for now and put her at supporting.

But yeah, basically I think supporting characters should be characters who outlast their one arc (and popping in for a quick cameo here and there after said arc doesn't really count) and contribute to the story long term. Just my thoughts.

I'll make the changes, but certainly feel free to reply with your thoughts! :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:44, 29 November 2007 (CST)

:I agree that Mallory and Taylor are definately more of supporting roles at this point. The supporting role definately needs to be defined, as there are many characters that are in a gray area between supporting and guest. The biggest one I see is Jonas's parents. If they appear again, I'm tempted to say that they should be moved up to supporting. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 08:01, 6 December 2007 (EST)

== Carl, Sonia, and Jennie ==

I think based on what we've seen lately (including the [[Jonas Conference Call]] and the behind the scenes holiday photos), we should make some changes to the character page. I think Carl should be moved down from supporting characters, as he's not really a major supporting character, and hasn't been for some time (not since Bree's death). I also think we should move Sonia down to "Former Characters," as based on the Jonas Phone Call, she seems to have vanished, possibly long term. I also think we should move Jennie up to Supporting Characters, as she was in the holiday BTS photos, which implies that she's going to be sticking around... and she's also made a bunch of solo video blogs lately, so it really does seem that she's going to be a stronger character coming up. Actually, based on the BTS photos, we might eventually end up moving both Jennie and Mallory up to Main Characters... but I think we should wait and see what happens before doing that. Let me know your thoughts! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:40, 21 December 2007 (CST)

EDIT: You know, upon further thought, I'm actually thinking that maybe we should move [[Dr. Calvin Hart]] up to supporting characters too. And maybe it ''is'' time to make a recurring characters section... which I would propose includes [[Lucy]], [[Carl]], and both of [[Jonas's parents]]. I'm going to look at the list one more time just to be sure... but yeah, this is what I'm thinking about right now... thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 17:53, 21 December 2007 (CST)

:Sounds good, but what makes Lucy more of a recurring character than Sonia?
:Also, I wouldn't consider Mallory's appearance on that pic as any sign of a long-term commitment - while I am part of the fraction that voted "yes", it could also be just a "current cast" snapshot, and Mallory gets written out next month...
:Not saying it happens that way, I just think that the opposite way might've been an unwanted spoiler - i.e. if Mallory has already been written out, and they hadn't put her on the picture, people would've started asking "why isn't Mallory on the christmas pic? Hmm, guess she doesn't return then :(".
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:50, 21 December 2007 (CST)
:I completely agree with this proposal. Though about the recurring character section, should Chris, Virgil, and (possibly) Claudia be included as well? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 22:36, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Regarding...

Mallory - I agree, she may not be around... or she may. That's why I think she should stay a supporting character until we can see long-term where she stands.

Sonia - I would consider Sonia a "former" character for a few reasons. Unlike Lucy, who often pops up unannounced and then leaves for long chunks of time, Sonia was featured heavily and then just vanished. Also, on the [[Jonas Conference Call]], someone specifically asked about Sonia's whereabouts, and Jonas answered with a vague "I don't hear from her anymore" kind of an answer. To me, that kind of implied that she wasn't sticking around. However, if she comes back, we can always un-former her.

Chris/Claudia - I do not really think Chris and Claudia can count as "Recurring" to the same extent as Carl does. Carl has played a much more prominent role in the story for a much longer time. Those two just seem like.. current supporting characters to me, not really recurring (they haven't been around very long at all, they aren't the ones whose names are mentioned... like when Jennie [[Procreating on Peyote|mentions]] kissing Carl and his black aura, etc). I don't think, at this point, we can really consider them recurring, but maybe with time that will change.

Virgil - I agree, good call.

--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:23, 21 December 2007 (CST)

::Here's a sample of what it could look like with the proposed changes: [[User:FH14/Sandbox]] --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 02:39, 23 December 2007 (EST)

:::My thoughts on the following characters:

:::Mallory - She should stay at supporting unless her roll is increasingly less and less, she might be moved to Recurring (which should really be created) or even Former, if need be.

:::Sonia - She was once a supporting character. However, from the Jonas Conference Call, it sort of seemed like she's not going to be on the show anymore. Move her to Former. However, if she comes back a few times, move her to Recurring.

:::Chris/Claudia/Carl - They can be at Recurring, just as Carl can be.

:::Virgil - Recurring.

:::Lucy - Recurring.

:::Nikki - Recurring.

:::Jonas's parents - Recurring.

::::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 13:13, 23 December 2007 (CST)
:::::Nikki seems to best fall under supporting actually. She posts her own videos and has a lot of camera time. (Plus, I think there'd be a outcry if Nikki were moved down to recurring. As for Chris and Claudia, Chris is borderline at this point, as there is a strong argument for either guest or recurring at this point. Claudia really hasn't had enough camera time or significance beyond the number of times she has appeared to merit recurring. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 12:51, 24 December 2007 (EST)
::I like the above characters to be "recurring" (which should probably be created soon) that Silver mentions. I also think we need Jennie as either Supporting or maybe-even main character (seeing as she's been posting a good amount of vids and she's got a Forum-name and she'll be giving a chat today) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:41, 2 January 2008 (CST)

Okay, I am really opposed to having Chris and Claudia as recurring. Recurring means they are significant characters who keep coming back with a variety of story arcs. Claudia has only been around for this story arc and Chris has never been a significant character until this story arc... heck, I don't even think he's a significant character IN this story arc... more like a recurring character within the story arc. Heh, yeah I actually kind of like that. They are so minor that they are just recurring characters in ONE story arc. They just don't make sense to me in the "Recurring" section at all! (Sorry if this didn't make much sense.. I'm really tired, I'll try to clarify in the morning if it was confusing... but yeah... hopefully I got across what I was trying to say!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:12, 11 January 2008 (CST)
:Agreed Zoey. But due to recent developments, some of the categories where we deemed characters should be have merited change. (Sorry if that sounded odd, I'm not 100% right now :P)
::Lucy - Due to her recent surge of activity, I think we should leave her as supporting for now at least.
::Nikki Bower - Now that she's popping up even less than before, I'm tempted to say that she should be recurring.
::Taylor - Leave her as supporting for now, seeing as she just made a new video, but if she goes two weeks without posting another, maybe she should be moved to recurring.
::Mallory - If she doesn't reappear in the next week, I say she should be moved to former. Her last mention was rather... final...
::Jennie - She's a main character on the main page, so I'm going to go ahead and move her up on this page too.
::Carl - Same as Lucy
::Virgil, Jonas's parents - Recurring as before
::Gina, Chris - they should stay guest for the time being, until they merit activity and relevance considerable enough for moving up.
::Jack - I added him to guest because footage of him was seen in Taylor's video (other non-canon-in-canon-context characters are listed under guest also (Jerry, Jennifer)) If he appears interacting in a canon video, or is deemed canon by the creators, he should be moved to supporting. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:05 14 January 2008 (EST)
==Gina==
Gina does not belong in guest characters, she is with TAAG, and she is just too important. {{unsigned|TraverseTown123}}

:As of now Gina's only been in a few videos and hasn't had a major role. You're right that she probably is going to be important, but maybe we should wait until Season 3 starts to determine exactly where to place her.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:54, 28 January 2008 (CST)

==Guest Characters==
First of all... this list is quite lengthy and could be livened up with pictures (seeing as we have actually seen these people)

Secondly... I think this should either be put in alphebetic order or significance...because right now it just looks disorganized. --[[User:Kericanfly|Kericanfly]] 11:13, 30 January 2008 (CST)
:The reason there aren't picture is because the page would get unruly and take forever to load. Anyone that has been seen has a picture on their character page. I've tried alphabetizing things before, and everytime it gets reverted. Maybe someone else would be better to answer that question, as I'm quite curious myself. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:41, 30 January 2008 (CST)
::The Order they are in is the order they have appeared in. Alphabetizing creates more work every time a new guest is added because the list has to be re-formated. Also, order of significance is a debatable issue that could cause a problem in the future. I think the lack of pictures has something to do with the size of the page, but I can't be sure. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:21, 30 January 2008 (EST)

== Unseen Characters ==

Not all of the unseen characters are unseen anymore.
Paul and Andrea were seen in the episode Missing Friends and haven't at least part of Daniel's parents been seen on camera at some point? [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]

:As the Paul and Andrea seen in [[Missing Friends]] were fanfic characters who received shoutouts moreso than actual official characters who were made by [[the Creators]], we decided to leave them as unseen. Also, since we only ever saw Daniel's dad's arm, we decided to leave him as unseen as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:27, 3 February 2008 (CST)

::Except that you are not considering that P&A are real show characters regardless. They were originally mentioned and then they were shown in the show. What exactly P&A is according to their LGpedia page is ambiguous as to how much creator-input and interaction went into their show so I don't think they can be dismissed as 100% fanfic either. A regular shoutout of mentioning a fan is one thing but showing people as being characters who have been mentioned on the show in the past is something different. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]

:::Paul and Andrea are real characters, but Paulmark18 is a fanfic creation. To suggest otherwise is akin to saying that cassieiswatching is official because Bree mentioned that her friend Cassie used to say "I was here." ..Which would also make itscassie official, for that matter. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:34, 3 February 2008 (CST)

::::Bree never flashed a picture of Cassieiswatching on the screen when talking about Cassie, Daniel flashed a picture of Pm18 when talking about P&A. Therefore, fanfic or not, Pm18 and canon P&A became one in the same while ciw and Bree's Cassie remain different entities. This was the point I was trying to make why this is different than all the others. PS thank you for all the work you do here Zoey, you don't get enough thanks. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]

Talk:Lonelygirl15 characters

2008-02-04T13:17:23Z

DrZoidberg:

Talk:Lonelygirl15 characters

2008-02-04T02:23:19Z

DrZoidberg: New section: Unseen Characters

Paulmark18

2007-11-16T20:18:01Z

DrZoidberg: Opened up section exploring the issue of fanfic or canon

{{Person
| name = Paul and Andrea
| image = PandA.jpg
| age =
| birthday =
| youtube = Paulmark18
| revver = Paulmark18
| myspace =
| actor =
| first = [[Introducing... Paul and Andrea]]
| last = [[Bree: The Girl from Mars]]
| color = purple
| blogs = [[:Category:Paulmark18's blogs|List of Paulmark18 videos]]
}}
'''Paulmark18''' is the [[YouTube]] handle of a duo who have made several videos as [[Daniel]]'s friends [[Paul]] and [[Andrea]]. They turned up shortly after being mentioned in the video [[House Arrest]]. Their first video spoofed the LG15 series, in particular the [[Proving Science Wrong (series)|Proving Science Wrong]] videos.

In it, Paul explains the Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon, and chalks many of the coincidences of the lonelygirl15 video series to the phenomenon. The Baader-Meinhoff phenomenon is not actually a scientific theory, but an internet meme itself, coming from a discussion that developed on the St. Paul Pioneer Press message board.

In the video, which is supposedly edited by Daniel, Paul is excited about the video, while Andrea reads magazines in boredom on the bed (a spoof of [[Bree]]'s video [[The Danielbeast]] where Daniel is the one reading a magazine on the bed and ignoring Bree). Paul also claims to have borrowed [[Purple Monkey]] for use in the video, and indeed a P. Monkey puppet does appear.

In Paul and Andrea's second video they hold a competition with P. Monkey to see who can find the best mythical creature. '''Spoiler Alert:''' P. Monkey wins (well, according to Andrea).

A third video came at a time shortly after Bree told her parents she didn't feel comfortable going through with the ceremony, after which to her everything seemed to be getting back to normal. Paul and Andrea replied with a video in which Andrea worried that the cult might be after them too for being friends of Daniel. She was not convinced that everything was just going to go back to normal, and sure enough soon after their video Bree reported that the cult had not accepted her resignation, followed soon after by the kidnapping of her parents.

==Fanfic or Canon, and for how long?==

Paul & Andrea is believed to be fan fiction, though that has never been directly verified. The production value of these episodes is clearly not the same as typical canon videos, though some have suggested that could be intentional to help portray Paul and Andrea as typical people making their own videos without the help of special tools. If fan fic, [[The Creators]] have long said they are interested in incorporating fan videos into the storyline. Paul & Andrea have been referenced directly twice:

* [[Nikki Bower]] referred to Paulmark18 as the real Paul in the episode [[Naming Bree's Dad]].
* [[Daniel]] used a screenshot of Paul & Andrea from [[Mythical Creature Contest]] in [[Missing Friends]] (Nov. 16, 2007).

Seeing as the time between the first reference and the second is nearly a year, the degree of The Creators involvement with this series and for how long is unknown.

==Videos==
YouTube
*[[Introducing... Paul and Andrea]] ({{youtube|8vt9zgQES-E|Watch}})
*[[Mythical Creature Contest]] ({{youtube|YbzcBM_eTe4|Watch}})
*[[Be Careful Daniel!]] ({{youtube|onKQPn_08AI|Watch}})
*[[Tales from the Minibar]] ({{youtube|Ar918k-IWug|Watch}})
*[[An Ode to Bree's Dad]] ({{youtube|VpLp6bqsw0E|Watch}})
*[[Proving Science Wrong- Zeno's Paradox]] ({{youtube|9Ir6ohlWhqI|Watch}})
*[[A Tale of Parents and Auditions]] ({{youtube|-kNNpzjxTeQ|Watch}})
*[[Jess's Hymn of One Audition]] ({{youtube|oZ6kBdNegfs|Watch}})
*[[Don't Mess With Andrea]] ({{youtube|WD98inBKBnU|Watch}})
*[[Bree: The Girl from Mars]] ({{youtube|Rk_rkKfRpZ0|Watch}})

[[Category:Fan fiction]]

Jules

2007-10-31T16:57:35Z

DrZoidberg: Removed the completely pointless name etymology, totally irrelevent

{{one other use|the Lonelygirl15 character|the KateModern character|Julia (KateModern)}}
{{update}}
{{Person
| name = Jules
| image = FieldTripJules.jpg
| age = 15
| birthday = June 7th, 1992
| youtube = callmejules24
| revver =
| myspace = callmejules24
| actor = [[Shannon Solomon]]
| first = [[Call Me Jules]]
| last = [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]]
| color = LightSalmon
}}
'''Jules''' a.k.a. '''Callmejules24''' (and often referred to as '''Julie''' or '''Julia''' by [[BDJ]], full name '''Julia Anderson''') is a [[YouTube]] user identified by [[Nikki Bower]] on April 16th, 2007 in the video [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]] as the possible replacement for [[Bree]] in the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. Nikki thinks there are a lot of similarities between Bree and Jules, though some of the information seems dubious. Bree also puts a screen cap of Jules's YouTube channel in her video [[New Girl]], and has mentioned her in every video since (until the recent [[Hymn of One]] infomercials).

Though several girls have been theorized as the potential new girl that Alex mentioned in the video, [[The Perfect Beach]], Jules has received the greatest attention by by the Trio and Nikki Bower. BDJ (and Nikki B.) travel to Texas in hopes of finding her before [[the Order]]. In [[We Found Julia!!!]], Jules appears, confirming her canon status. In [[It's Not Kidnapping]], [[BDJ]] kidnaps Jules, and as a result she hates all three of them. Subsequently, she [[She's Missing|escapes BDJ]], is [[Aiding and Abetting|recaptured]], contacts the Order, and [[What the F*@k???|leaves with them]].

==The Mystery==
Callmejules24 started posting comments on other YouTube videos shortly before releasing her own. Most notably, she replied to a comment on [[Nikki Bower]]'s video [[It's Party Time - NBR Investigates]].

'''sylvienov'''
Is ice breakers the offical sponser of the lonelygirl15 francise now?
It was in this video, very pointedly, twice and got a cameo in a
lonelygirl15 video as well...I watch youtube to AVOID commercials
people!

'''callmejules24'''
lol it was supposed to be a joke!
that's what nikki does, she pokes fun at lg15.

The comment was deleted shortly after it was posted, and is no longer available on YouTube or Google Cache. The comment was likely deleted because it was out of character. Jules is probably not supposed to be aware of the LG15 series or Nikki Bower, let alone have anything to say about product placement. Indeed, in the video [[We Found Julia!!!]], Jules appears to have no idea who Bree is. Also, knowledge of LG15 should alarm Jules about her religion (if it really is the Hymn of One), so if that is what was intended for her character, it's understandable that the comment would be removed.

The deleted youtube comment could not have been deleted by Jules herself; it would have to be removed by the video poster, Nikki Bower, either on her own initiative to protect the Jules character, or upon a request from Jules. Thus, this deletion was a very early indication that Jules was to be a canon character.

Jules's foreign language errors, low production quality (relative to normal canon videos) and apparent lack of professional acting experience originally cast some doubt as to whether callmejules24 was really part of the lonelygirl15 production. However, the many similarities to the lg15 format, and being mentioned in a Nikki Bower video as well as several of Bree's subsequent videos, made it fairly certain that she was [[canon]]. Canonhood was confirmed by Jules's appearance in [[We Found Julia!!!]].

However, in the end it turned out that Jules was a red herring all along. She was not actually the new girl- which turned out to be the character [[Emma]] months later.

==Notes==
* Jules has a younger sister named [[Cameron]] first seen in the video, [[Field Trip]].
* Jules is almost always seen wearing a striped shirt.
* Jules is likely the only major character portrayed by a minor.
* Amanda Goodfried revealed that Jules is played by her 14 year old sister, [[Shannon Solomon]].
* Jules was the first character whose full name was revealed. In [[Let's Play Doctor]], we find out that Julia's last name is Anderson.
* In [[2006 Graduation Ceremony (full version)]] from [[the Homeschoolers Aggregate]], Jules was listed as a graduate.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Jules|link]] for theories about Jules.

==List of Videos==
*[[Call Me Jules]]
*[[He's a monster, I promise!!]]
*[[Field Trip]]
*[[Mi Escuela]]
*[[Hear Me Out]]

 
{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Jules

2007-10-31T16:57:08Z

DrZoidberg:

{{one other use|the Lonelygirl15 character|the KateModern character|Julia (KateModern)}}
{{update}}
{{Person
| name = Jules
| image = FieldTripJules.jpg
| age = 15
| birthday = June 7th, 1992
| youtube = callmejules24
| revver =
| myspace = callmejules24
| actor = [[Shannon Solomon]]
| first = [[Call Me Jules]]
| last = [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]]
| color = LightSalmon
}}
'''Jules''' a.k.a. '''Callmejules24''' (and often referred to as '''Julie''' or '''Julia''' by [[BDJ]], full name '''Julia Anderson''') is a [[YouTube]] user identified by [[Nikki Bower]] on April 16th, 2007 in the video [[The Ceremony Girl?! - NBR Investigates]] as the possible replacement for [[Bree]] in the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. Nikki thinks there are a lot of similarities between Bree and Jules, though some of the information seems dubious. Bree also puts a screen cap of Jules's YouTube channel in her video [[New Girl]], and has mentioned her in every video since (until the recent [[Hymn of One]] infomercials).

Though several girls have been theorized as the potential new girl that Alex mentioned in the video, [[The Perfect Beach]], Jules has received the greatest attention by by the Trio and Nikki Bower. BDJ (and Nikki B.) travel to Texas in hopes of finding her before [[the Order]]. In [[We Found Julia!!!]], Jules appears, confirming her canon status. In [[It's Not Kidnapping]], [[BDJ]] kidnaps Jules, and as a result she hates all three of them. Subsequently, she [[She's Missing|escapes BDJ]], is [[Aiding and Abetting|recaptured]], contacts the Order, and [[What the F*@k???|leaves with them]].

==The Mystery==
Callmejules24 started posting comments on other YouTube videos shortly before releasing her own. Most notably, she replied to a comment on [[Nikki Bower]]'s video [[It's Party Time - NBR Investigates]].

'''sylvienov'''
Is ice breakers the offical sponser of the lonelygirl15 francise now?
It was in this video, very pointedly, twice and got a cameo in a
lonelygirl15 video as well...I watch youtube to AVOID commercials
people!

'''callmejules24'''
lol it was supposed to be a joke!
that's what nikki does, she pokes fun at lg15.

The comment was deleted shortly after it was posted, and is no longer available on YouTube or Google Cache. The comment was likely deleted because it was out of character. Jules is probably not supposed to be aware of the LG15 series or Nikki Bower, let alone have anything to say about product placement. Indeed, in the video [[We Found Julia!!!]], Jules appears to have no idea who Bree is. Also, knowledge of LG15 should alarm Jules about her religion (if it really is the Hymn of One), so if that is what was intended for her character, it's understandable that the comment would be removed.

The deleted youtube comment could not have been deleted by Jules herself; it would have to be removed by the video poster, Nikki Bower, either on her own initiative to protect the Jules character, or upon a request from Jules. Thus, this deletion was a very early indication that Jules was to be a canon character.

Jules's foreign language errors, low production quality (relative to normal canon videos) and apparent lack of professional acting experience originally cast some doubt as to whether callmejules24 was really part of the lonelygirl15 production. However, the many similarities to the lg15 format, and being mentioned in a Nikki Bower video as well as several of Bree's subsequent videos, made it fairly certain that she was [[canon]]. Canonhood was confirmed by Jules's appearance in [[We Found Julia!!!]].

However, in the end it turned out that Jules was a red herring all along. She was not actually the new girl- which turned out to be the character [[Emma]] months later.

==Notes==
* Jules has a younger sister named [[Cameron]] first seen in the video, [[Field Trip]].
* Jules is almost always seen wearing a striped shirt.
* Jules is likely the only major character portrayed by a minor.
* Amanda Goodfried revealed that Jules is played by her 14 year old sister, [[Shannon Solomon]].
* Jules was the first character whose full name was revealed. In [[Let's Play Doctor]], we find out that Julia's last name is Anderson.
* In [[2006 Graduation Ceremony (full version)]] from [[the Homeschoolers Aggregate]], Jules was listed as a graduate.

==Etymology==
===Julia===
Feminine form of the old Roman family name Julius. A woman called Julia is mentioned in Paul's Epistle to the Romans (Romans 16:15), and the name was borne by numerous early saints. Its frequency increased with the vogue for classical names in the 18th century, and it continues to enjoy considerable popularity, although the recent introduction of Julie to the English-speaking world has reduced this somewhat.

===Anderson===
Definition: Patronymic surname meaning "son of Andrew." Andrew (man, manly) was the first of Jesus' disciples, and was a revered name in medieval times due to its church connections. St. Andrew is the patron saint of both Scotland and Russia. Many Danes, Norwegians and Swedes who emigrated to America with the last name Andersson or Anderssen, dropped the extra -S after their arrival.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Jules|link]] for theories about Jules.

==List of Videos==
*[[Call Me Jules]]
*[[He's a monster, I promise!!]]
*[[Field Trip]]
*[[Mi Escuela]]
*[[Hear Me Out]]

 
{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

Theories About Characters

2007-09-21T01:58:43Z

DrZoidberg: /* LaRezisto */

This page is used to post your theories about [[characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

==lonelygirl15==

===Bree===
*Her full name is [[Bree|Bree Avery]] because her father's name is [[Bree's parents|Drew Avery]]. (proven)
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*Bree isn't actually dead.
*Bree is not dead, but will not be returning.
*The Order didn't kill Bree, they made it look like she died so Daniel and Jonas would stop chasing her.
*After doing the ceremony, Bree loses her past memories and [[Greek|becomes Jen K, a college student]].
*Bree may be [[Kate]]'s biological sister.
*Bree was pregnant when she died

===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for the order.
*Daniel was in love with Bree. (proven)
*Daniel will fall in love with Sarah.

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*The Order preformed Bree's ceremony incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill Jonas as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become depressed after losing Bree and kill himself. (disproven)
*Jonas will tell Emma about his adventures with Bree and Daniel and they will fight the Order.
*Jonas will become brainwashed by the Order.

===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by the Order.
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She is a [[Watcher]]. (disproven)
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down the Order.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract Spencer Gilman.

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by the Order.
*Sarah is jealous of Bree. (proven)
*Sarah is not related to Taylor by blood.
*Sarah, as a plant by the Order, is present to distract Daniel from the task of locating Bree.
*Sarah loves Daniel. (proven)
*She is trait positive and the creepy guy is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant.
*Sarah is using the serum on herself. (disproven)
*Sarah has destroyed the serum. (disproven)
*Sarah says she is dating multiple guys to make Daniel jealous.
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in Emma
*She hasn't really been injecting Emma with the serum, just a decoy.

===Bree's Mom===
*[[Bree's parents|Bree's mom]] is working against Bree's best interests.
*She is, or is working for, [[OpAphid]].
*Bree's mother married Drew Avery as a command from [[The Order]].
*Bree's mother is part of [[The Resistance]].

===Drew Avery===
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of the Order.
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
*He died because he tried to make Bree trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]). (proven)

===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is torn between her loyalty to her religion and her loyalty to her [[Jonas|nephew]].
*Alex has done the Ceremony. (disproven)
*She is still with the Order and gave Daniel a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample,she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*She is the one who put the messages in Bree's videos. (proven)
*Alex and Lucy are biological sisters

===Jonas's Parents===
*[[Jonas's parents|They]] are in hiding.
*They are being brainwashed by the Order. (proven)
*They will be found by Alex and help the Resistance.
*They are Bree's real parents. (That would be pretty disgusting given the circumstances)
*They are dead. (disproven)
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]] (proven)
*Jonas' mom is the nurse that helped perform Bree's ceremony.
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.

===Julia===
*[[Jules]] is not the [[New Girl|new girl]]. (proven)
*Jules was a plant by the Order to get Bree. (proven)
*Jules is putting the messages in Bree's blogs. (disproven)
*While Jonas is with Taylor, Julia will come and help them contact Spencer Gilman. (disproven)
*Jules is dead.

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of the Order. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is Tachyon, and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-OpAphid, through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.

===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] is OpAphid or working for them.
*Lucy did the Ceremony. (Proven Incorrect)
*Lucy did not have knowledge of the Ceremony, and was therefore unable to answer Bree's questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help DJE.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of the Resistance.
*The Mistress knows Bree.
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
*The Mistress is in the Order and killed Isaac Gilman.
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
*The Mistress is Jonas's biological mother.(disproven)

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca is the girl in the photograph with Lucy seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]].
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on Bree for OpAphid.

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*Beth is the mole in [[Deep Throat]] (disproven)
*The "rock star" was also a guest of Charlie's birthday party.
*Bree's Real Parents were at the party.

===Bree's Biological Parents===
*Bree's biological parents are Jonas's parents.
*They died and the Order took Bree.
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for the Resistance.
*They are the couple that appear in [[Remember Them?]], this would also mean that Bree and Jonas are biological brother and sister.

===Isaac Gilman===
*[[Isaac Gilman]] was Bree's real father.
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing Bree's dad was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
*He is the specialist who faked his death in Kate Modern.

===Spencer Gilman===
*[[Spencer]] is Bree's brother.
*Spencer is a plant by the order.
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for Daniel and Jonas: save the other ceremony girls.
*Spencer will see KateModern and attempt to break back into the Wyman Foundation and steal Kate's blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*Spencer will no longer appear.
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative.
*Spencer and Taylor will eventually end up together

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] will find where Bree is being kept and be brainwashed by the HoO. (disproven)
*Alternatively, OpAphid will kill her. (disproven, the creators (including Nikki Bower creator, Amanda Goodfried) cannot legally use OpAphid in their storyline)
*She is [[LaRezisto]].

===The Watchers===
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting BDJ, not trying to kidnap them.

===Shadows===
*[[Shadows]] and Watchers are against each other within the HoO.

===LaRezisto===
*[[LaRezisto]] will contact Daniel and Jonas and together they will get over their feelings for Bree and save the other girls. (partially proven, he has contacted Jonas)
*LaRezisto is Sophie. (disproven)
*LaResisto is Cassie.
*LaRezisto is actually the Order.
*LaRezisto is Scott.
*LaRezisto is Bree coming back from the dead.
*LaRezisto is Nikki B.
*LaRezisto is Paul and/or Andrea
*LaRezisto is/are Jonas's parents trying to goad him into saving more girls. (disproven)
*LaRezisto is working against [[TAAG]].
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of Daniel's house. He was responsible for Deep Throat and for Alex's betrayal of the Order. When Bree returned to the Hymn Of One unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls.
*LaRezisto is Deep Throat/Alex.
*LaRezisto is Bree's adoptive father, and he didn't die from the gun shot.
*LaRezisto is Spencer.
*LaRezisto is Lucy.
*LaRezisto is Purple Monkey (disproven, we think...)

===Scott===
*[[Scott]] will convince Sarah to rejoin TAAG to save Emma.
*Scott is the Gross Guy.

===Emma===
*[[Emma]] is trait positive. (proven)
*She is not Jonas's parent's biological daughter and therefore, not Jonas' biological sister. (proven)
*She is oblivious to her parent's Hymn of One activities.
*Jonas and Daniel will save her from doing the ceremony.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for the ceremony.
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially the Elders.
*She was abducted as a baby (Dr. Griffin explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies).
*She was adopted by Jonas's parents around age 9 (Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15).
*She took Purple Monkey and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.

===Mallory===
*The flickr account is [[Mallory]]'s.
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls.
*Mallory is a plant by the order.
*Mallory is trait positive.
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.

===Purple Monkey===
*Purple Monkey is AWESOME! (proven)
*Purple Monkey is trait positive, and he will give himself up to protect TAAG.
*Purple Monkey is LaRezisto
*Purple Monkey is a reversible puppet.
*Purple Monkey can kill people when he touches them.

== KateModern ==

===Kate===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly the Order. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate was a Ceremony girl. (disproven)
*Kate is [[Cassie]].
*Kate is [[Tachyon]]. (disproven: the characters Tachyon/OpAphid/Brother cannot legally be used by The Creators)
*Kate is Trait Positive. (proven)
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*Kate is Lucy. (disproven)
*Kate will join the HoO and Gavin, Tariq, and Charlie will try to save her.
*The same people that kidnapped Jonas, Daniel & Bree in Las Vegas and wiped their memories did the same to Kate (disproven)
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Kate and Bree are twins. (Disproven: Kate is in her late twenties while at the time of her death Bree was only 17)
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. (disproven though she stayed in a hospital for a month because of her dreams.)
*The people that wiped Jonas's parents' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate is possibly suffering from DID resulting in her loss of memories

===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of the Order.
*Charlie is Tariq's ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is dating Gavin. (proven)
*Charlie is Gemma's ex-flatmate
*Charlie is Gemma's sister
*Charlie was once pregnant and lost the baby through miscarriage, abortion, or adoption.
*Charlie is a parallel character to Daniel and Taylor.
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much.(disproven:Charlie put one message in her video "[[Tell Kim I Love Her]]",to tell her niece that Charlie loves her .)
*Charlie is a parallel character to Sarah.
*Charlie is working for the HoO or, possibly, the Order.
*Charlie is Bree's biological sister. They are both from Australia.

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.(disproven)
*Gavin will see the lg15 videos and ask Jonas for a loan. (disproven)
*Gavin is a member of the HofO or the Order.
*Gavin is a member of the Resistance.
*Gavin is a parallel character to Jonas, which could mean that Jonas also has connections to the Order.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate.

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] has watched [[lonelygirl15]], and has heard of [[the Order]]. He will be the connection between [[Kate]], [[Charlie]], [[Gavin]], himself, and [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Taylor]], [[Jonas]], and [[Spencer]] (and possibly [[Bree]]). (disproven: he watched the videos, but only after finding the HoO pamphlet.)
*The Order will kidnap Tariq because he researched the Hymn of One after finding the pamphlet.
* Tariq is a parallel character to Daniel.

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of the Order
*He's a Watcher. (disproven)
*He is Carl (disproven).
*Steve is a parallel character to [[Alex]].
*He will use his inside knowledge to help Kate and her friends.

===Aunt Joan===
*Aunt Joan is related to Jonas.
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with Nikki Bower.

===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and Spencer are half brothers.
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are parallel characters.
*The Mistress is his mother.
*He is LaRezisto.

== See Also ==
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

A Family Affair

2007-08-25T05:53:09Z

DrZoidberg: /* Notes */

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''(Jonas is filming himself in his truck.)''

'''Jonas:''' Look, I've been-I've been angry lately. When I get angry, I do stupid things. Like, really stupid things. I still can't believe those fuckers came to my house and taped me yesterday. ''(cut to filming a semi in the reflection of his side mirror)'' Ever since I saw the video, I just can't -- I can't sleep, I can't focus on anything else, and I --- I started thinking about the way my life was, you know, the way it used to be. A long time ago. ''(cut to blurred shots out car window)'' Before all of this. Don't get me wrong, I do not trust these Resistance people. Not at all. ''(cut back to Jonas in the vehicle)'' But, I figure if they can find my parents, then-- ''(cut to shot of the outside of Jonas' parents house)'' What's the harm in me coming to talk to them, right? Oh, um, oh, also, I just really want to thank everyone out there from the bottom of my heart for helping me crack that -- that code from the Resistance video. I wouldn't be here without you. So, thank you.

''(The front of Jonas' parent's house is seen.)

'''Jonas:''' Woo. Ok! Ahem. Ok. Ok. I can do this. Woo. Here we go. ''(Jonas enters through the gate.) I can do this. Just gimme a minute. Fuck it. (''Rings doorbell.'') Ok, there's no going back now. Woo. Oh, man. Maybe they're not -- (''Door opens.'') Hi, dad. It's me, it's Jonas.

'''Mother:''' Sweetie, who's there?

'''Father:''' I think he has the wrong address.

'''Jonas:''' Mom...

'''Mother:''' Is there -- Can we help you with something?

'''Father:''' Just call the police.

'''Mother:''' Uh, can we help you?

'''Jonas:''' They don't remember me. (Cuts to Jonas inside their house. His parents are whispering to each other behind him.) Nothing. Uh -- Least they ... They invited me in. But, you know what? Here's the weird thing: my mom has this picture of me from when I was a kid. I know that she knows who I am somewhere, somewhere deep down. I know she knows who I am. Even if she doesn't remember exactly. I can just -- I can just feel it. (''Looks behind at his parents who are hugging each other.'') Ha. Ha. This is -- This is incredible.

'''Mother:''' Jonas?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah?

'''Mother:''' There's someone I'd like you to meet.

'''Jonas:''' Uh, kay.

'''Mother:''' Come on.

(''She leads him to a room with music blasting from the inside. She knocks.'')

'''Mother:''' Em? Emma? Can I come in?

'''Jonas:''' It's okay.

'''Mother:''' Can -- Can you just wait here a minute?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, yeah.

'''Mother:''' Just one moment.

'''Jonas:''' Sure.

'''Mother:''' I'll be right back.

'''Jonas:''' I'll be here.

'''Mother:''' Ha, ha. OK.

(''She enters the room. Jonas takes a glance at the camera. The door opens once more.'')

'''Jonas:''' Hey.

'''Mother:''' You can come in now.

'''Jonas:''' Really?

'''Mother:''' Yeah. She's waiting.

'''Jonas:''' Thank you.

'''Mother:''' You're welcome.

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs.'') Hi.

'''Jonas:''' Hi. I'm -- I'm Jonas.

'''Emma:''' I'm Emma.

'''Jonas:''' Emma, nice to meet you.

'''Emma:''' Nice to meet you.

'''Jonas:''' So ... What?

'''Emma:''' (''Points to camera.'') Well, why do you have a camera?

'''Jonas:''' It's a long story. Uhm, I'll tell you later.

'''Emma:''' Ok. (''They both laugh.'') Um, this is really weird for me. Um, oh my God. I have a brother. Who's holding a camera.

'''Jonas:''' I know! Well, yeah, I know. It's weird. And... I can put it -- I can put it down, if it makes you more feel more comfortable. I don't have to. 'Cause I just kinda...

'''Emma:''' No! Actually I think it's actually kinda cool.

'''Jonas:''' Really?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, I do.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, me and you are going to get along.

'''Emma:''' Really? Why do you have that with you all the time?

'''Jonas:''' Kinda. yeah. It's like ... I'm going to put the camera down. I think it's ...

'''Emma:''' O --

'''Jonas:''' I'm going to put it down.

'''Emma:''' Ok.

==Notes==
*Jonas's parents disappeared in 2000. Jonas's sister, despite acting like a child, is clearly no younger than 13. The reason why she and Jonas never knew each other is not addressed in this video. She can't be any older than 7 for Jonas to have presumably not known of her, an age totally ruled out by the actress's appearance (though not necessarily her behavior, and the fact she even has a bed time.) It suggests that since such a 6 or 7 year old actress would be difficult to fit into the current storyline, which perhaps needs her to be older to work, so the Creators took on a plot hole instead of working around it.

A Family Affair

2007-08-25T05:50:08Z

DrZoidberg:

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==Transcript==
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''(Jonas is filming himself in his truck.)''

'''Jonas:''' Look, I've been-I've been angry lately. When I get angry, I do stupid things. Like, really stupid things. I still can't believe those fuckers came to my house and taped me yesterday. ''(cut to filming a semi in the reflection of his side mirror)'' Ever since I saw the video, I just can't -- I can't sleep, I can't focus on anything else, and I --- I started thinking about the way my life was, you know, the way it used to be. A long time ago. ''(cut to blurred shots out car window)'' Before all of this. Don't get me wrong, I do not trust these Resistance people. Not at all. ''(cut back to Jonas in the vehicle)'' But, I figure if they can find my parents, then-- ''(cut to shot of the outside of Jonas' parents house)'' What's the harm in me coming to talk to them, right? Oh, um, oh, also, I just really want to thank everyone out there from the bottom of my heart for helping me crack that -- that code from the Resistance video. I wouldn't be here without you. So, thank you.

''(The front of Jonas' parent's house is seen.)

'''Jonas:''' Woo. Ok! Ahem. Ok. Ok. I can do this. Woo. Here we go. ''(Jonas enters through the gate.) I can do this. Just gimme a minute. Fuck it. (''Rings doorbell.'') Ok, there's no going back now. Woo. Oh, man. Maybe they're not -- (''Door opens.'') Hi, dad. It's me, it's Jonas.

'''Mother:''' Sweetie, who's there?

'''Father:''' I think he has the wrong address.

'''Jonas:''' Mom...

'''Mother:''' Is there -- Can we help you with something?

'''Father:''' Just call the police.

'''Mother:''' Uh, can we help you?

'''Jonas:''' They don't remember me. (Cuts to Jonas inside their house. His parents are whispering to each other behind him.) Nothing. Uh -- Least they ... They invited me in. But, you know what? Here's the weird thing: my mom has this picture of me from when I was a kid. I know that she knows who I am somewhere, somewhere deep down. I know she knows who I am. Even if she doesn't remember exactly. I can just -- I can just feel it. (''Looks behind at his parents who are hugging each other.'') Ha. Ha. This is -- This is incredible.

'''Mother:''' Jonas?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah?

'''Mother:''' There's someone I'd like you to meet.

'''Jonas:''' Uh, kay.

'''Mother:''' Come on.

(''She leads him to a room with music blasting from the inside. She knocks.'')

'''Mother:''' Em? Emma? Can I come in?

'''Jonas:''' It's okay.

'''Mother:''' Can -- Can you just wait here a minute?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, yeah.

'''Mother:''' Just one moment.

'''Jonas:''' Sure.

'''Mother:''' I'll be right back.

'''Jonas:''' I'll be here.

'''Mother:''' Ha, ha. OK.

(''She enters the room. Jonas takes a glance at the camera. The door opens once more.'')

'''Jonas:''' Hey.

'''Mother:''' You can come in now.

'''Jonas:''' Really?

'''Mother:''' Yeah. She's waiting.

'''Jonas:''' Thank you.

'''Mother:''' You're welcome.

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs.'') Hi.

'''Jonas:''' Hi. I'm -- I'm Jonas.

'''Emma:''' I'm Emma.

'''Jonas:''' Emma, nice to meet you.

'''Emma:''' Nice to meet you.

'''Jonas:''' So ... What?

'''Emma:''' (''Points to camera.'') Well, why do you have a camera?

'''Jonas:''' It's a long story. Uhm, I'll tell you later.

'''Emma:''' Ok. (''They both laugh.'') Um, this is really weird for me. Um, oh my God. I have a brother. Who's holding a camera.

'''Jonas:''' I know! Well, yeah, I know. It's weird. And... I can put it -- I can put it down, if it makes you more feel more comfortable. I don't have to. 'Cause I just kinda...

'''Emma:''' No! Actually I think it's actually kinda cool.

'''Jonas:''' Really?

'''Emma:''' Yeah, I do.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, me and you are going to get along.

'''Emma:''' Really? Why do you have that with you all the time?

'''Jonas:''' Kinda. yeah. It's like ... I'm going to put the camera down. I think it's ...

'''Emma:''' O --

'''Jonas:''' I'm going to put it down.

'''Emma:''' Ok.

==Notes==
Jonas's parents disappeared in 2000. Jonas's sister, despite acting like a child, is clearly no younger than 13. The reason why they never knew each other is not addressed in this video. She wouldn't be able to be any older than 7 for Jonas to have presumably not known of her, which is completely ruled out by the actresses appearance (though not necessarily her behavior, and the fact she even has a bed time.)

Andrea

2007-08-22T06:16:05Z

DrZoidberg: Added pet

'''Andrea''' is a friend of [[Daniel]]'s and [[Paul]]'s girlfriend. She was mentioned in the video "[[In The Park]]" as going bowling with [[Bree]] and Daniel.
Shortly after their mention in the Lonelygirl15 videos, an Andrea (along with a Paul) turned up on [[YouTube]], posting as [[Paulmark18]].

She owns a pet turtle named Paul Anka.

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