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First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails

2009-05-25T16:15:45Z

Bobby G:

{{Blog
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| number = 1
| image = Dorkiness.jpg
| caption = Talk to the knee...
| blogger = Bree
| date = 20060616
| url = {{youtube|-goXKtd6cPo}}
| length = 1:35
| description = So, I finally got a webcam and got it working (ugh, harder than I thought...). Hope you like it :)
| tags = {{tags|paytotheorderofofof2|thewinekone|dorky|funny|girl|hamster|blog|first|duh|tongue|faces|silly|weird|lg15}}
| location = [[Bree's bedroom]]

| execprod = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders
| producers = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| story = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders
| editor = Miles Beckett
| song = Crazy by Gnarls Barkley
| series = LG15

| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree|Jessica Lee Rose}}
[[Category:Videos with Purple Monkey]]
[[Category:Videos with Owen]]

| Previous = YouTubers Secret Language
| Next = Purple Monkey (video){{!}}Purple Monkey
| PreviousC = 3-2-1 Contact
}} After setting up her webcam, [[Bree]] starts her first video blog and introduces herself.

==Transcript==
'''Bree:''' Hi, guys. Um, so, this is my first video blog. Um, I've been watching for a while and I [[fan references|really like a lot of you guys on here]]. Um, I really like [[paytotheorderofofof2]]. You're really funny, and, um, your videos are always really interesting and you seem really nice. Um, then there's [[thewinekone]], or...just winekone? I'm not sure. You're totally retarded, but I like it. Well, I guess a video blog is about me. My name is Bree. I'm sixteen. Um, I don't really wanna tell you where I live...'cause, you could stalk me. (''Picture is frozen and audio of girl screaming is heard.'') Yeah. Um... well, what you need to know about my town is that it's really boring. Like, really, really boring. Really, really, really boring. Um, that's probably why I spend so much time on my computer. I'm a dork. Um, I really didn't have a plan for this video blog, but... I guess I'll just do this. (''"Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley plays. [[Bree]] makes funny faces, gets up and dances, etc.'') Okay, I hope you guys enjoyed that... um... bye! (''continues funny facial gestures'')

==Notes==
* The title of this video is a reference to a May 31st, 2006 video by popular YouTuber [[thewinekone]], entitled {{youtube|w-rcjaBWvx0|Hotness Prevails / Worst Video Ever}}.
* This video contains clips from "Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley. It is not featured on [[Revver]], possibly due to copyright infringement issues. Viewers can still see it on [[YouTube]].
* When [[Jessica Lee Rose]] appeared on Jay Leno to reveal that lonelygirl15 was fictional, a clip from this video was used.
*In these early videos, Bree often responded to comments on YouTube. Some notable excerpts:
:* Almost immediately, there were doubts about Bree. A commenter named Kobashii asked:
<pre>
kobashii
16??? No you aren't. :)

lonelygirl15
hahaha yes i AM :P
</pre>
:* Bree claims that she lives in a small town.
:* [[Bukanator]] makes his first appearance, with the comment, "This is wonderful..."
:* A commenter identifies the picture on the back of Bree's wall as an Edward Hopper painting. The painting is "Second Story Sunlight." [http://www.mondomostre.it/images/newyork/cat_newyork_04.jpg]

TSIY Portal:LG15: The Last/Character Row

2009-03-02T21:58:36Z

Bobby G:

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Love on the 436

2009-02-10T17:39:13Z

Bobby G:

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| image = KM288-TerrenceforCar.jpg
| caption = Surprise, surprise!
| blogger = Charlie
| date = 20080620
| url = {{KM|346}}
| forumid = 793
| length = 4:02
| description = We're getting out of town...
| location = Around London
| tags = {{tags|KateModern|LG15|lonelygirl15|Charlie}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| setprod = Louis Figgis
| lineprod = Kelly Brett
| pc = Claire Finbow and Elisabeth Pinto
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| pr = Meryl Iona Edwards
| directors = Yusuf Pirhasan
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Lawrence Tallis
| story = Luke Hyams, Neil Mossey, and Lawrence Tallis
| editor = John Palmer
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{{VidChar|Sophie}}
{{VidChar|Charlie}}
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{{VidChar|Anthony|Andy Donovan}}
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{{VidChar|Assassin|KateModern cameos#Felix Pring{{!}}Felix Pring}}
{{VidChar|Terrence}}
{{VidChar|Clore's Shadow|Mike GLC}}
| Previous = Disconnect With Me
| Next = Tour de France
| PreviousB = Rupert's Dead
| NextB = The Last Work: 8PM
| NextC = KateModern S2 Week 23 Recap

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==Transcript==
'''Text:''' KateModern contains products which have been included within the show on behalf of [[KateModern product placement#Toyota Aygo Platinum|Toyota]]

(''Lee turns to Anthony as they walk down the street''.)

'''Lee:''' Why do you get to go, anyway? She's not even your friend.

'''Anthony:''' Oh, what are you gonna do if anything kicks off? You're in no state to be scrapping, are you?

'''Lee:''' I'll be all right!

'''Anthony:''' Oh yeah, course you will, soft lad! Tough tits I'm afraid, though, our kid. I'm going to Paris; not you.

'''Lee:''' Yeah, well, actually, Toe, I don't think it's your decision. I mean, you don't even really know the others. And I think they think you are a little bit weird!

'''Anthony:''' (''Turns the camera on himself''.) What, they think I'm weird? Hey, that's a bit rich init, coming from them freaks.

'''Lee:''' Why do you wanna go to France anyway?

'''Anthony:''' Uh, no reason. Just love the frogs, don't I?

'''Lee:''' Is it because you fancy Lauren?

'''Anthony:''' Oh, get on; no way son. Had much better in my time.

'''Lee:''' Oh, aye, yeah.

'''Anthony:''' I'm not discussing it, kid! You're not going!

'''Charlie:''' Hey!

(''The camera pans backs to see Charlie, Lauren, and Sophie following Anthony and Lee''.)

'''Charlie:''' Who made you the boss, toad?

'''Anthony:''' Ooh!

'''Charlie:''' No I'm being serious, it's my car.

'''Sophie:''' Well, maybe he's right. Lee could do with a break.

'''Lee:''' Alright, alright.

'''Sophie:''' And if he stays here, then I can look after him.

'''Lauren:''' Oh, please!

'''Lee:''' Oh, yeah! Well, then, maybe-maybe I could do with a little bit of a rest. You know, before I go fighting evil again.

'''Charlie:''' Oh, whatever.

'''Lee:''' Oh, no, I just thought! You've had your passport taken off you haven't you?

'''Charlie:''' Oh, shame! That means you're gonna have to come instead!

'''Anthony:''' Don't be daft. I'll just take his init! Same face, remember?

'''Lauren:''' Why are you so desperate to come, anyway?

'''Anthony:''' Jesus, you lot are suspicious, aren't you? Just fancy a holiday, that's all. And if I can give a bit of a kicking to a scumbag, wife-beating bastard while I'm at it, then all the better. And you need me to take care of you all, don't ya?

(''Anthony attempts to put his arm around Lauren, which she quickly pushes away''.)

'''Lauren:''' Get off me, you tramp.

'''Charlie:''' God, okay. Right. Toe, you can come, it's fine. Right, but you, Lee, if you're gonna stay you have to promise me that you go back to Sophie's place, it's not safe for you to come back to the flat.

'''Lee:''' Yeah, well, yeah, if that's okay with Sophie!

'''Sophie:''' Yeah, course!

'''Charlie:''' Nice one.

(''Cut to a shot of a bus passing nearby. Cut to Sophie''.)

'''Sophie:''' Oh, that's our bus! C'mon!

'''Lee:''' Okay, bye!

(''Sophie grabs Lee's hand and pulls him toward the bus''.)

'''Sophie:'''' Bye!

'''Charlie:''' See you!

(''Lee and Sophie run to the bus. Cut to the bus pulling away''.)

'''Charlie:''' Alright, let's go.

(''Cut to Charlie driving. They pull up outside Steve's flat, where he is seen talking to a man. Anthony zooms in''.)

'''Lauren:''' Who's that Steve's talking to?

'''Charlie:''' I don't know, I- I can't see.

(''The man grabs Steve's arm as Steve starts for the car. The man says a final sentence to Steve and walks away. Cut to Steve walking to the car. He gets into the backseat''.)

'''Charlie:''' Who was that guy you were talking to before?

'''Steve:''' What?

'''Charlie:''' That guy you were talking to before outside your house.

'''Steve:''' Oh, no one; it's just a neighbour.

(''Charlie looks at the camera and begins driving. Steve smiles. Cut to Charlie driving through downtown London. Cut to Charlie looking nervously in the rear-view mirror''.)

'''Charlie:''' Is that car following us?

(''Steve and the camera look behind the car''.)

'''Steve:''' I think you're being paranoid, Charlie.

(''The camera zooms in on a car behind the Aygo''.)

'''Charlie:''' No, I think he's been tailing us for the last fifteen minutes.

'''Steve:''' Look, take the next left then.

'''Charlie:''' Yep.

(''Charlie nervously watches the rear-view mirror as she turns left. The car behind them turns, as well''.)

'''Steve:''' Oh... He's following us.

'''Charlie:''' Oh shit, is he?

'''Steve:''' It's okay. Okay. stay calm.

'''Charlie:''' Oh, I don't know what to do.

'''Steve:''' Stay calm.

(''Charlie brakes suddenly''.)

'''Steve:''' Jesus...

'''Charlie:''' Shit.

(''The camera pans up to see Terrence in front of the car''.)

'''Charlie:''' Oh my god...

'''Terrence:''' Watch where you're going!

'''Charlie:''' Wha--

'''Steve:''' That's Terrence.

'''Charlie:''' Oh my god!

(''Terrence grins as he notices Lauren. Michelle Clore's Shadow appears and punches Terrence''.)

'''Steve:''' Shit.

'''Lauren:'''' What the fuck?

(''Terrence gets up with a bloody nose. The Shadow punches him again''.)

'''Charlie:''' No...

'''Lauren:''' Charlie, go.

'''Steve:''' Go! Go!

'''Lauren:''' Go now!

'''Steve:''' Go!

(''Charlie whimpers as she drives away''.)

==Notes==
*The title's use of the number [[436]] is in reference to the number of the bus that Lee and Sophie get on. The number is also a [[437|fan-created phenomenon]], signifying something that does not exist.

Killola

2008-10-28T23:53:41Z

Bobby G: New page: Killola are a band that made a video thanking Maggie for using their music.

Killola are a band that made [[Mutual Appreciation|a video]] thanking Maggie for [[Exposed!|using their music]].

Template:Init/Killola

2008-10-28T23:51:40Z

Bobby G: New page: <noinclude><center><div style="padding:1ex 1em; border:#aaa 1px solid; width:80%" align="left">'''This is a subpage for Template:Init.<br> It contains categories and content that is no...

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It contains categories and content that is not part of the original template page.'''</div></center>
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[[Killola|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#71B642;">K<span style="font-size:11px;">illola</span></span>]]

List of LG15: The Resistance videos

2008-10-28T23:49:18Z

Bobby G:

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===Prologue===
[[the resistance]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<br>[[Fun Things To Do in Hiding - Volume One]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Hetlevan is Here]] {{Init|Lifesbloodlabs}}
<br>[[The Beginning of the Beginning]] {{Init|Reed}}
<br>[[Fun Things to Do in Hiding - Volume Dos!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Hipster Hell]] {{Init|Reed}}
<br>[[Fun Things to Do in Hiding - Volume Three!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Pants Pants Revolution]] {{Init|Reed}}
<br>[[Here's the Deal]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Introducing the Lifesblood Labs Strandbox]] {{Init|Lifesbloodlabs}}

===Chapter 1: A Call to Arms===
<li>[[Call to Arms]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<li>[[Last Words]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<li>[[One Evil with Many Faces]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<br>[[Feline Feariousness]] {{Init|Reed}}
<li>[[Cheer Me Up!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<li>[[Split]] {{init|Hymnofnone}}
<li>[[Chapter 1: A Call to Arms]] {{init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 2: Bad Decision?===
<li>[[Ticket to Ride]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<li>[[Sexy Librarian Strikes Again!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Book of...Poems?]] {{Init|Jonasr}} *
<br>[[Abduction!]] {{Init|Reed}}
<li>[[Off the Grid]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<li>[[Mace in Yo Face!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<li>[[Chapter 2: Bad Decision?]] {{init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 3: Trust Fall===
<li>[[Team Player, Haters!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Hunting/Hurting for Answers]] {{Init|Jonasr}} *
<li>[[Creepy Van Man!]] {{Init|Reed}}
<br>[[RESPONSE REQUESTED]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}} *
<li>[[HLPME]] {{Init|Reed}}
<li>[[Done Dirt Cheap]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<li>[[Chapter 3: Trust Fall]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 4: Growth Spurt===
<li>[[Craptastic!]] {{Init|Reed}}
<li>[[1-800-I-CAN-REED]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<li>[[Powder Keg of Beer!]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<li>[[Angry Drunk Chick!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<li>[[Remember the Mission]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<br>[[Remedy]] {{Init|Sarahr}} *
<li>[[All Aboard!]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<li>[[Chapter 4: Growth Spurt]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 5: On the Road===
<li>[[Sleeping Around]] {{Init|Reed}}
<br>[[Mixin' It Up]] {{Init|Reed}} *
<li>[[Mystery Box]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<li>[[Battleground]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<br>[[From A to B(oston)]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}} *
<li>[[Motel Tryst]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<li>[[Chapter 5: On the Road]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 6: Hacked and Tracked===
<li>[[Road Head Butting]] {{Init|Sarahr}}
<br>[[Road to Nowhere]] {{Init|Jonasr}} *
<li>[[The Truth]] {{Init|Lifesbloodlabs}}
<li>[[Expose the Lie]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}
<br>[[Lines Open Soon]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}} *
<br>[[LBL Confidential]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}} *
<br>[[Are you Prepared?]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}} *
<li>[[Signal Lost]] {{Init|Jonasr}}
<br>[[MIA]] {{Init|Jonasr}} *
<li>[[Chapter 6: Hacked and Tracked]] {{Init|Hymnofnone}}

===Chapter 7: Tricks and Treats===
<li>[[Exposed!]] {{Init|Maggie}}
<br>[[Beantown Bound]] {{Init|Reed}} *
<li>[[Mutual Appreciation]] {{Init|Killola}}
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*[[#Chapter 1: A Call to Arms|{{color|white|Chapter 1}}]]
*[[#Chapter 2: Bad Decision?|{{color|white|Chapter 2}}]]
*[[#Chapter 3: Trust Fall|{{color|white|Chapter 3}}]]
*[[#Chapter 4: Growth Spurt|{{color|white|Chapter 4}}]]
*[[#Chapter 5: On the Road|{{color|white|Chapter 5}}]]
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Estelle

2008-10-28T23:43:33Z

Bobby G: New page: {{Person | name = Estelle | image = NoImage_Female.gif | age = | birthday = | lg15 = | youtube = | myspace = | forum-posts = | imeem = ...

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| image = NoImage_Female.gif
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Estelle is Reed's ex girlfriend who lives in Pittsburgh. He suggests visiting her in [[Motel Tryst]].

{{LGRCharIndex}}

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2008-10-28T23:36:22Z

Bobby G:

Doctor

2008-10-12T20:29:05Z

Bobby G:

{{stub}}
{{one other use|lonelygirl15, KateModern, and LG15: The Resistance characters|the Redearth88 character|Doctor (Redearth88)}}
{{Person
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| image = Female Doctor.jpg
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| actor = [[Gene Foad]], [[Sean Vincent Biggins]], [[Cameos#Jason Wilburn{{!}}Jason Wilburn]], [[Jenni Powell]], [[Jake Coburn]], [[Neil Mossey]], [[Lawrence Tallis]], Unknown, Unknown
| first = [[Dr. Weirdo]]
| last = [[Chapter 4: Growth Spurt]]
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'''Doctors''' have been featured in several parts of the LG15 Universe.

A female doctor was seen in [[Bloodlines: Part 2]] in front of the hospital where [[Emma]] was supposed to perform [[the Ceremony]]. [[Jonas]] then followed her for a little while in [[Bloodlines: Part 3]], where she was seen with a [[Watcher]]. She was last seen with [[Dr. Calvin Hart|Dr. Hart]] right before Dr. Hart saved Emma during the Ceremony.

Doctors have also been seen in [[The Last Work]], namely Doctors Kavorkian and Reece, who work at [[St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution]].

==See Also==
*[[Dr. Calvin Hart]]
*[[Dr. William Griffin]]
*[[Dr. William Porter]]
*[[Leonard Alderman|Dr. Leonard J. Alderman]]

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St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution

2008-10-12T20:27:40Z

Bobby G:

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'''St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution''' is a psychiatric institution run by [[the Order]]. They use it to contain and experiment on people who pose a threat to the Order.

[[Kate]] was [[The Last Work: 8PM|committed to St. Grinstead]] as a teenager because of her [[Awful Dream|nightmares]] and [[Coming Home for Xmas|delusions]]. Much later, [[Gavin]] was sent there after he began questioning the nature of [[Fictionality|the reality he lived in]], believing Kate was [[Back on Brick Lane|still alive]]. While he was there, Gavin became aware that the facility was run by the Order, and learnt of Patient #12, the most dangerous occupant of the Institution, who was kept under maximum security, covered up and chained and wired in place.

After [[The Last Work: 12PM|fighting]] his way out of the ward where he was kept, Gavin entered Patient #12's room. Gavin freed the patient, believing it to be Kate. However, the patient was actually [[Terrence]], who had presumably been sent there after being [[Love on the 436|beaten up]] by [[Michelle Clore's Shadow]]. Terrence broke free and escaped. Gavin also escaped, taking Kate's file with him.

The inmates of St. Grinstead wear plain grey pyjamas and are treated by [[Doctor]]s, such as Doctors Reece and Kavorkian.

St. Grinstead also housed [[Joseph]], an Order agent who posed as a patient in order to find out how much Gavin knew and return him to St. Grinstead.

{{KateModern location index}}
{{The Order}}

[[Category:Covers for the Order]]

The End

2008-10-11T20:34:23Z

Bobby G: oops

{{Blog
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| number = 54
| image = KM0054SadTariq.jpg
| caption = Breakin' up is hard to do.
| blogger = Tariq
| date = 20070910
| url = {{KM|63}}
| forumid = 264
| length = 1:35
| description = I think I finally realised that some things aren’t worth fighting for when you’re just fighting against yourself.
| location = [[Tariq and Gavin's office]]
| tags = {{tags|KateModern|LG15|lonelygirl15|tariq}}

| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| assocprod = Cristy Coors Beasley
| serprod = Pete Gibbons
| pm = Kelly Brett
| pc = Claire Finbow
| pr = Amy Barnes
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| directors = Gavin Rowe{{!}}Gavin Rowe (BigBalls Films)
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Hazel Grian
| story = Miles Beckett, Luke Hyams, and Hazel Grian
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| prodserv = Sniffer Ltd.
| cast = {{VidChar|Tariq}}

| Previous = Girl Power
| Next = Tell Kim I Love Her

| PreviousB = Keep Your Socks On!
| NextB = Orange Wednesday

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==Transcript==
'''Tariq:''' Uhm, I guess I owe you guys an explanation. Because a lot of you have been involved with the whole thing between me and Kate. It's been pretty up and down. And now it's over. Me and Kate are finished.

'''Kate:''' (''in clip from [[A Friendly Lie]]'') I know what you're thinking but I didn't have it planned out.

'''Tariq:''' It's a relief you know. I mean, I wish her well. And I hope she's okay. And she's right. She's got to go on her own way. And there's so much I want to do around here. Me and Gav have got enough problems of our own.

'''Gavin:''' (''in clip from [[Gavin Steps Up]]'') We're meant to be making a go at this business. Not making peace between your mental bird and her creepy friends.

'''Tariq:''' So, uhm, me and Gavin have got a great thing going here... we could really make a success of this, so onwards and upwards. (''Closes laptop.'')

==Notes==

The End

2008-10-11T20:33:45Z

Bobby G:

{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 54
| image = KM0054SadTariq.jpg
| caption = Breakin' up is hard to do.
| blogger = Tariq
| date = 200709010
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| forumid = 264
| length = 1:35
| description = I think I finally realised that some things aren’t worth fighting for when you’re just fighting against yourself.
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| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| assocprod = Cristy Coors Beasley
| serprod = Pete Gibbons
| pm = Kelly Brett
| pc = Claire Finbow
| pr = Amy Barnes
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| directors = Gavin Rowe{{!}}Gavin Rowe (BigBalls Films)
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Hazel Grian
| story = Miles Beckett, Luke Hyams, and Hazel Grian
| editor = Sam Rowland and Yusuf Pirhasan
| prodserv = Sniffer Ltd.
| cast = {{VidChar|Tariq}}

| Previous = Girl Power
| Next = Tell Kim I Love Her

| PreviousB = Keep Your Socks On!
| NextB = Orange Wednesday

| KM = yes
}}
==Transcript==
'''Tariq:''' Uhm, I guess I owe you guys an explanation. Because a lot of you have been involved with the whole thing between me and Kate. It's been pretty up and down. And now it's over. Me and Kate are finished.

'''Kate:''' (''in clip from [[A Friendly Lie]]'') I know what you're thinking but I didn't have it planned out.

'''Tariq:''' It's a relief you know. I mean, I wish her well. And I hope she's okay. And she's right. She's got to go on her own way. And there's so much I want to do around here. Me and Gav have got enough problems of our own.

'''Gavin:''' (''in clip from [[Gavin Steps Up]]'') We're meant to be making a go at this business. Not making peace between your mental bird and her creepy friends.

'''Tariq:''' So, uhm, me and Gavin have got a great thing going here... we could really make a success of this, so onwards and upwards. (''Closes laptop.'')

==Notes==

Ultimatum

2008-09-19T21:37:38Z

Bobby G: correcting date

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| image = KM0044-SpecialistsSon.JPG
| caption = Don't we recognise you from somewhere?
| blogger = Kate
| date = 20070831
| url = {{KM|53}}
| forumid = 235
| length = 3:18
| description = My new knight in shining armour has helped me decipher a crucial part of the mystery of the Specialist. Who would have thought this time last week that Gavin would end up saving the day?
| location = [[Tariq and Gavin's office]], [[Kate and Charlie's flat]], Westbourne Grove
| tags = {{tags|KateModern|LG15|lonelygirl15|kate}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| assocprod = Cristy Coors Beasley
| serprod = Pete Gibbons
| pm = Kelly Brett
| pc = Claire Finbow
| pr = Amy Barnes
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| directors = Gavin Rowe{{!}}Gavin Rowe (BigBalls Films)
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Luke Hyams
| story = Miles Beckett, Luke Hyams, Hazel Grian and Tom Wright
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| prodserv = Sniffer Ltd.
| song =
| cast = {{VidChar|Kate}}
{{VidChar|Gavin}}
{{VidChar|Dudley|Liam Reilly}}

| Previous = Gavin Steps Up
| Next = A Day in the Life

| PreviousB = A Message From Me
| NextB =

| KM = yes
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==Transcript==

(''Gavin and Kate sitting on sofa in Kate's flat'')

'''Gavin:''' Okay. This is what's been happening so far. I went online to see if I could find out anything about the late, but not so great, blood specialist. (''Shot Gavin in his and Tariq's office, performing a windows live search for Westbourne Grove.'') I found the specialist's last known home address and I thought it might be a good idea to try to ask his family if they knew about what had happened to him. Now, it seemed like a straightforward plan...until I got there.(''Cut to Gavin walking down street'') I mean, what the bloody hell am I supposed to say? I'm sorry about the-you know the bad news about your late husband, but he didn't happen to mention anything about kidnapping my best mate's girlfriend did he? You know, before he popped his clogs? Whoa...(''Shot of a man coming out of a house carrying a bag. Gavin walks towards the man'') Uhm...excuse me? Excuse me?

'''Dudley:''' Yes?

'''Gavin:''' Uhh, I um...

'''Dudley:''' What do you want?

(''Cut back to Gavin and Kate on sofa'')

'''Gavin:''' Yeah, okay, when I got there I did get a bit nervous and I couldn't think of anything to say.

(''Cut back to Gavin and Dudley'')

'''Dudley:''' Is that thing recording? (''Points at the camera.'')

'''Gavin:''' No, no...uhm... the doctor? W-Who lived in that house you just came out of?

'''Dudley:''' My father? Yes? What about him?

'''Gavin:''' Uhm...

'''Dudley:''' Oh for God's sake - I really don't have time for this.

'''Gavin:''' Father...

(''Cut back to Gavin and Kate'')

'''Gavin:''' The important thing was, I got him on tape. And I just-I had this feeling I knew him from somewhere, but I couldn't think where.

'''Kate:''' Until he showed the tape to me.

(''Cut to clip from [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM]] showing Dudley as the policeman'')

'''Gavin:''' I went online and found out the doctor had a son-er-in his 20's named Dudley. But there's no record of Dudley ever having been in the police.

'''Kate:''' So I started to wonder just how much of what happened on Saturday on Carnaby Street was actually real.

(''Cut to Kate walking up to the door with of a house with a SOLD sign outside and knocking'')

'''Gavin:''' Looks like a quick sale. Should we break in?

'''Kate:''' There's no point, it's empty. It wasn't any of the other houses?

'''Gavin:''' No it was this one. The green door.

'''Kate:''' Let's just go home.

(''Cut back to Kate and Gavin on sofa.'')

'''Gavin:''' Nobody was there.

'''Kate:''' Just like nobody was in that body bag on Saturday on Carnaby Street. I mean, is this all for my benefit or some subterfuge for the [[Hymn of One]]? They say you're evil. I just want to know what's going on and why. So, [[Dr. Griffin|Dr. Specialist]] this is a message to you. We know you faked your death. And we have evidence of your son impersonating police in his spare time. Now, that's a pretty serious offense and I'm sure the police would like to hear about it so I suggest you get in touch with me and let me know what's going on or I will go to the police. No more deceptions. You have the Hymn of One pretty scared and I want to know why.

==Notes==
* Gavin looks increasingly uncomfortable at the end of the video as Kate delivers the ultimatum.

Gavin

2008-08-27T17:53:15Z

Bobby G: /* Escape from Grinstead */

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'''Gavin Taylore''' is a father of none from Manchester who currently is living in East London. He was the CEO of his software company which he started with his friend, [[Tariq]]. Gavin is also the ex-boyfriend of [[Charlie]]. His favorite drink is Red Bull and favorite sport is Football.

==Background==
===Enter DeepGoat===

Gavin is first introduced in [[Spiders]] when Tariq and him visit their new office space, his [[Aunt Joan's house|Aunt Joan's garage]]. Gavin says he's just quit his job and would like to start his new company there. [[Joan|Aunt Joan]] demands rent, so Tariq and Gavin pay in Gardening. A couple of days later, while the two are getting ready to go to the bank to ask for a loan, Tariq gets a call from his girlfriend, [[Kate]]. Gavin mentions he gets bad vibes off her.

Gavin tags along with Tariq to [[Charlie's party]]. Gavin spots [[Steve]] hugging Kate and alerts Tariq. He distracts Steve by doing the funky chicken, giving Tariq time to go through his stuff. Tariq ends up leaving, while Gavin and Charlie stay at the party afterwards.

[[Image:KM0034-GavinTheHero.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin helps crazy Kate.]]
Days later, [[Birdwatching|Charlie asks Gavin for help]], worried about Kate. Gavin looks up information left on Tariq's computer about Kate being [[Trait Positive]]. After hearing about the Hymn of One, Charlie says they have to go find Kate and warn her. As Charlie tries to open the door, however, it is locked. Gavin says he forgot the dead bolt, it locks automatically at 6pm. Cell phones wont work either. Gavin send the message through the blog to Tariq and anyone listening, to go to Carnaby Street at 10am. While locked in the room, Gavin and Charlie grow closer, posting several videos over the time they're trapped. Gavin admits he's [[Office Romance|attracted to Charlie]].

Tariq [[Hero For Hire|confronts Gavin]] about the loan he took out, although nothing more about it is said in the blogs.

In [[The Prisoner]], Steve suggested that Gavin was a member of the Hymn of One. Gavin later admitted that he had attended a Hymn of One meeting, but found it really boring. Tariq later urges Gavin to use that to [[Gavin Steps Up|convince Steve]] not to report Kate to the Police after what she did. After, Gavin complains that Tariq and him should be worried more about the business, not Kate and her creepy friends. Tariq convinces him to continue to help.

Gavin goes to [[Dr. William Griffin]]'s house to ask if anyone knew what happened or if they knew anything about Kate. He runs into Dudley and later notices he's the cop from the day the Doctor died.

Gavin, Tariq and Charlie go to see [[Disturbia]] but Gavin gets kicked out for having a camera which he refuses to give up. He sat outside, waiting for the movie to end.

===Charlie and The Software===
In [[False Alarm]], Charlie confirms that she and Gavin slept together. She was also worried that she might have been pregnant, but she wasn't. After seeing the video, Gavin posts a [[...|short video]] saying he'll call Charlie. Later, [[Girls Are From Venus|Charlie posts]] parts of what Gavin calls a "very private tape", making "Keep Your Socks On" into his catchphrase. [[Keep Your Socks On!|He asks girls at a bar]] what they think, saying Charlie's attempt to embarrass him has backfired.

[[Image:KM0060-Gavin-Charlie-Giggling.jpg|thumb|right|Gavin saves Charlie from herself.]]
Gavin later sees a [[Desperately Seeking Shia|video]] Charlie posted about going to see Shia LaBeouf. He [[Somebody Do Something|decides]] to go stop her and tell her how he feels. Although, [[Saved By LaBeouf|when he gets to the bar]] she's at, Charlie's nowhere to be found. He grabs a drink and sits at the counter. He looks around and finally finds Charlie sitting alone at a table. He walks up to her, Gavin gives his coat to Charlie and the two sit together at a table. Gavin admits he likes Charlie and Charlie replies she likes him too.


[[Birthday Surprise|Later]], after things with Kate died down, Gavin and Tariq renewed their efforts to work on their software. In order to help them, they hired on [[Lee]], a work experience trainee volunteer. Unfortunately, Gavin seemed to find humor in [[Subservient Lee|degrading]] Lee, who was working for nothing. As retaliation, Lee stole the only copy of their software in [[The Leak]] and posted videos that would lead both Gavin in Tariq on a [[KateModern puzzles#Lee's Treasure Hunt|treasure hunt]] around London to attempt to recover it. This strained their friendship, however, and the two now refuse to speak to each other.

Unfortunately, since [[Terrence]] showed up and they [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|lost their software to the Order]], Gavin has shown signs of [[Sinking in|violence]] and mental anguish (including [[The Trains|split personality]] and paranoia). Gavin's mental state caused his relationship with Charlie to slowly deteriorate. She finally left him after learning that Gavin had formed a plan with Terrence to retrieve the [[Project Orwell|software]] from [[the Order]]. Gavin attempted to [[Down Under|follow her]] to Australia, but is stopped by Terrence and Tariq, who force him to go through with the plan, which ends poorly, with Gavin being [[Resolution|arrested]].

===New Opportunities===
Following Kate's murder, it is discovered that the Order pulled strings to have Gavin released from prison. He has gone to live with his Aunt Joan, while working in a pub cleaning dishes. In [[Group Hug]], Gavin returns as [[JustIncredible.TV]]'s new technical manager, a position which Tariq had been positioning himself for.

During Charlie's [[Stiff Upper Lip|pitch]] on how to advertise for the channel, Gavin managed to convince Justin that he should tag along. The following week, Charlie, Gavin, [[Julia]], and Lee went on a road trip to tour University communities to promote JustIncredible.TV. At first Gavin upset everyone by constantly bickering with Lee. However, after [[Nuts and Needles|saving Lee's life]], he was more accepted in the group, and gave up his vendetta against Lee for stealing his software.

[[Image:KM200-GavinSmiling.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin at his new job at JTV.]]
Upon returning to work, Gavin begins noticing [[Justin]]'s strange behavior, and discovers that he has put his office [[WC ONE|inside a bathroom]]. Gavin also finds that Justin is [[Credible?|re-receiving packages]] that he had sent out, and [[MERRY-GO-ROUND|concludes]] that he is committing {{wikipedia|Missing_trader_fraud|carousel fraud}}, though he cites that Justin is not very good at it, as no one has been paid in two months. During the company [[The Easter Party|Easter party]], Gavin starts a walk-out, demanding that Justin pay his employees. Later, when the [[JTV staff|staff]] [[Bust Incredible|go to demand]] pay again, they find that Justin has split, and the group proceeds to steal the equipment as compensation.

At the same time, Gavin [[Brighton Beach|tries to get re-involved]] with Charlie, who is [[Half the Week Away|immersed in finding out more]] about the missing girls. He [[Precious Blood: 11AM|accompanies her]] to [[Lauren]]'s apartment, where they find Steve and Terry putting her in the trunk of their car. After Charlie races off after them and leaves him behind, Gavin goes to the pub to drink his worries away. When Charlie [[Precious Blood: 3PM|seeks his help]] a few hours later, she finds him doing work online and drinking only [[Orange Slurpee|Orange]] Juice. While there, they run into Terry, who tells them that Steve is Kate's killer and that he's going to kill Lauren, and [[Precious Blood: 4PM|leads them]] to an abandoned bunker. However, Charlie and Gavin soon discover that Terrence is actually the murderer, and had begun working for the Order to avoid going to prison after the assault on the Hymn of One building on New Years Day. Gavin and Charlie escape, and [[Precious Blood: 6PM|run into]] Steve and Lauren, who had overpowered Terrence and made a break for it. Gavin and Lauren remain outside while Steve and Charlie go inside to look for Terrence.

When Charlie is [[Precious Blood: 8PM|abducted by Terrence]], community members begin leaving [[Voicemail|voicemails]] on Gavin's answering machine, telling him to go to his Aunt Joan's house, where they are being held. When he doesn't answer, Lee sets out to find him, and [[Precious Blood: 9PM|he finds Gavin]] (and Lauren) in an ally blaming Steve for what happened to Charlie. Lee informs them where they are being held, and they [[Precious Blood: 10PM|go to Aunt Joan's house]]. There, they find that Terrence has doused the house in gasoline, but is chased away by the Watcher and Shadow before he can set in on fire.

Afterwards, Gavin confronts Charlie about her [[Precious Blood: 7PM|romantic interactions]] with Steve earlier in the night, and he orders her to leave.

===Like a Fox===
After an almost month-long hiatus, Gavin [[Connect With This!|made a blog]] mocking Steve's new cult, [[The Celestial Network]]. Days later, he runs into Lee and [[Meryl]] at the unemployment office, where he recommends Lee for a job in stealing software and bankrupting a business. It has been implied that he has been living with his Aunt Joan while looking for a job. Lee invites him to attend a [[The Dinner Party|dinner party]] at [[the new flat]] in order to try to reconnect with Charlie. However, Steve attends as well, and the two almost come to blows, but the fight ends when they find out that Charlie is stuck at work.

[[Image:KM268-Gavcrazy-cropped.jpg|thumb|right|Gavin finally cracks.]]
When Julia invites Gavin to her wedding, Gavin attempts to [[Sex, Drugs and on the Dole|convince Charlie]] to go with him so they can laugh at how ridiculous the entire situation is. Charlie rejects his advances at first, but throws herself at him during Julia's [[The Hen Night|hen night]] after having an emotional breakdown and a bit to drink. However, at [[Julia & Rupert|Julia's wedding]], Steve attempts to hijack the event, leading Charlie to have to talk him down outside. Gavin, upset, begins drinking the vodka he had brought as a wedding gift and begins making inappropriate remarks towards Julia, followed by an emotional outburst where he knocks over the gift table. Rupert demands that he leave, and Lee and Lauren follow him out to try to console him.

After the ordeal, Gavin [[I Know|posts a blog]] saying that he believes that all the drama that has been happening is being caused by Kate, whom he believes is still alive and is sitting back at watching everyone come into conflict with one another. However, he comes across more insane than convincing. Lee and Lauren begin worrying about his mental health, and accompanies him as he accuses various people (including [[Straight To The Top|Michelle Clore]] and [[The Naked Truth|Steve]], as well as [[Joanna Shields]], the president of Bebo). He [[Back on Brick Lane|contacts Charlie]] and asks her to meet him at Kate's grave, and attempts to convince her that Kate is still alive. He tackles a woman he believes is Kate, and becomes extremely distressed when he finds out it isn't her. Afterward, Charlie implies that Gavin has sought professional help.

===Escape from Grinstead===
Gavin [[The Last Work: 12PM|spent the next few weeks]] in [[St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution]], where he was cut off from the outside world and had no access to his Bebo account. During one of his therapy sessions on the 28th of June, it was revealed that Gavin had given the impression of a successful rehabilitation, and the doctors were comfortable enough to sit close to him and ask him to perform simple tasks. However, the doctors become increasingly concerned with Gavin's negative self-image, and they attempt to get him to express what he is feeling on paper. Gavin stabs the doctors with the pen he is given and beats them unconscious, and takes the camera taping the session with him as he leaves.

[[Image:KM300-GavinOHsht.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin makes a grave mistake.]]
During his exit, he encounters a figure underneath a blanket called Patient #12 whom he believes to be Kate, and frees "her" only to discover that it was actually Terrence. Gavin runs away from him and encounters another patient, [[Joseph]], who seems to think that Gavin is playing a game and desperately wants to join. Gavin reluctantly allows him to follow him, and the two escape from Grinstead after Gavin finds information on Kate in the facility. Once outside, Gavin attempts to [[The Last Work: 3PM|ditch]] Joseph, at one point pretending to throw a stick for him to fetch. However, Gavin informs Joseph of the information he has taken, leading Joseph to reveal himself as an agent of the Order and demands that Gavin hand over the folder.

Before either one can act, Terrence arrives, and throws Gavin onto the ground. When Terrence begins to attack Joseph, Gavin pulls himself together and flees. Terrence pursues him, but is stopped when Gavin boards a train. Afterwards, Gavin [[The Last Work: 8PM|contacted]] Charlie and gave her an address to meet him at. Charlie, along with Lauren and Lee, arrive and discover that Gavin is at Kate's childhood home, and learn that Kate had spent the early part of her childhood at Grinstead undergoing experiments. [[Hazel Strathcarron|Kate's mother]] arrives and explains how she worked as a doctor there and decided to rescue Kate. As they head back to London, Charlie gets a call from Kate's mom asking them to come back so she can show them something. However, Gavin [[The Last Work: 10PM|refuses]] to go along, citing that he has wasted too much of his life obsessing over the mysteries surrounding Kate. He and Lee stay behind while Charlie and Lauren go back, only to find her dead and Terrence waiting for them. When Terrence begins circling the house with the girls inside, Gavin and Lee arrive and try to overpower Terrence, but ultimately fail. However, they provide a distraction so that Charlie and Lauren can leave the house. Terrence [[The Last Work: 11PM|pursues them]] into the woods, only to get stabbed by Charlie with a sword Kate's mom had displayed over her mantle. Gavin and Lee arrive and the four of them watch as Terrence begins bleeding to death, and leave him to die.

They drive back to London and pick up Sophie at her office. While there, they get a phone call from Steve telling them to meet him outside, where he has set up a makeshift birthday party for Lauren. On the way there, Gavin [[The Last Work: 12AM|jokingly asks]] if Kate will be attending, but he comes across as serious and only manages to get his sanity re-questioned. One they arrive, Charlie and Steve lovingly embrace, and Gavin tells the camera that he'll be there for Charlie when Steve leaves her for another cult. Gavin and the others decide that their lives might be less complicated if they didn't post them online, and break the camera.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Gavin|link]] for theories about Gavin.
{{KateCharIndex}}

Portal:LG15: The Resistance

2008-08-27T17:46:55Z

Bobby G: /* Links */ correcting title

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'''LG15: The Resistance''' is the name of a new series coming from {{link|link=EQAL|text=EQAL|color=green}}.

The show will debut at the New York Television Festival on September 16, 2008.[http://inside.lg15.com/2008/08/20/nytvf-gets-digital/]
== Announcement ==

The series was first announced, though not by name, in a [http://inside.lg15.com/2008/07/04/lg15-update/ post] on {{link|link=Inside LG15|text=Inside LG15|color=green}} on July 4, 2008:

"...We will also be premiering a new LG15 Universe show based in the US. It will bring together the best parts of lonelygirl15 and KateModern, including some of your favorite characters. To make room for the new storyline and characters, we’ve decided to bring the lonelygirl15 storyline to an end. We are working with amazing writers and actors and are very excited about the new show. To this community, it will feel less like a new show and more like another chapter in the LG15 storyline that picks up where lonelygirl15 and KateModern left off. To new members of the community, it will be a new story that they can get into from the start so they can experience the show without the need to watch over 500 videos...."

== Links ==

{{link|link=The resistance|text=the resistance|color=green}}: Trailer released on August 1, 2008, which identified the name of the new show for the first time.

{{link|link=Fun_Things_To_Do_in_Hiding_-_Volume_One|text=Fun Things To Do in Hiding - Volume One|color=green}}: Pre-cursor teaser from Sarah (Aug. 26, 2008).

{{link|link=ARG/interactive component|text=ARG/interactive component|color=green}}: Interactive components created since the end of lonelygirl15.

[[Category:Site features]]

Kate

2008-08-14T23:28:43Z

Bobby G: She was in the Hymn at one point: Clore tricked her into thinking she was an Elder.

:''"Abstractheart" redirects here. For the video, see [[Abstract Heart]]. "Genevieve" also redirects here. For the video, see [[Genevieve (video)]].''
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'''Genevieve "Gen" Strathcarron''' (better known as '''Kate''') was the main character of the [[KateModern]] series. She was a 23-year-old university student who was studying art. She wanted to fit in with her friends and had problems with her parents. She lived in an East London flat with her friend [[Charlie]]. She liked making art videos and said that she's signed up for Bebo to showcase her art.

==Background==
Genevieve began her life as a [[trait positive]] girl in a lab maintained by [[the Order]]. Among her doctors was [[Hazel Strathcarron]], who developed a special fondness for the girl. After learning of the tests and experiments which Genevieve would undergo for the remainder of her life, Hazel smuggled her out of the lab by setting a fire causing a distraction and then raised Kate as her own daughter.

As she grew, Genevieve wished to know more of the world, and ran away from home to London. Due to the fact that she was a high-priority target for the Order, she decided to change her name and family history.

===Friendly Lies?===
"Kate" is actually an alias that she made up when she met Charlie. When Kate was a child she had awful night terrors. Eventually they went away, but recently, they started [[Awful Dream|coming back]]. She went to see her doctor, who did a blood test, which revealed that Kate's blood was "abnormal." She went to see a specialist, but ended up [[I can't remember anything!|losing her memory]] of the entire event. She tried to seek help, and found [[Steve]].

Steve took Kate back to the office where she had been treated by the specialist, only for Kate to find that the specialist [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM|was murdered]]. It was widely assumed that Steve had something to do with this. Eventually, it came to light that he was actually [[The Prisoner|trying to help Kate]] and things started to look up.

[[Image:KM0010 - Kate-Knee.JPG|thumb|left|Kate blogs about life's problems.]]
Soon though, Kate realized that the specialist was not, in fact, dead, and that the "police officer" who had told her so was the specialist's son, [[Dudley]]. Dudley [[Who Watches The Watcher?|sent Kate a message]] saying that he and his father would like a chance to explain what happened. Kate and Charlie went with Dudley, to a location in the middle of nowhere to [[Girl Power|hear what he had to say]]. [[Tariq]], Kate's boyfriend, tried to join them, but Kate refused to let him come. Because of this, Tariq [[The End|ended their relationship]]. Meanwhile, Kate [[Dr. Weirdo|met up with]] [[Dr. William Griffin]], who told her that his "''experiments with the trait positive girls showed that they had something more than the longevity that we believe provides the power for the Order.''" This freaked Kate out a great deal and made her [[Pest Control|very angry]] at Dudley and Dr. Griffin.

In spite of all of this negativity, Kate received some [[Dream Lover|great news]] -- her art was going to be featured in the gallery of one of Kate's favorite artists, [[Michelle Clore]]. Kate [[Dudley did it!|was very excited to attend]], but things turned sour when [[The Gallery - 6pm 22nd September 2007|a man fired a shot]] and exclaimed, "''We will bring down the Order!!''" Michelle tried to thank Kate for saving her life, and took a hold of her hands. Kate jerked her hands back quickly, as though she was burned, and ran from the art gallery in terror.

After a short vacation in [[Devon]] with Charlie, Kate [[Why?|met with Michelle Clore]] on October 1st. It is unknown what Michelle Clore told her, but Kate was visibly upset during their meeting and Kate's behavior changed dramatically afterwards. Kate assaulted Charlie and willingly got into a van with a man in a dark suit and sunglasses.

===In the Order===
After a three week absence, [[Kate Returns|Kate returned]] dressed in black clothes and sunglasses, similar to other members of the Order. She explained that she was studying art with Michelle Clore although this is most likely not the truth. The next day, she [[Birthday Surprise|visited Tariq]] and revealed that her real name is Genevieve.

[[Image:KM094-KateOhReally.jpg|thumb|right|Kate's new style.]]
Kate came home one day to find [[Creepy|Dudley beating]] Charlie when she wouldn't give him the [[Trait Negative]] serum he was after. Kate became furious at seeing her friend abused and proceeded to shove Dudley off of Charlie. However, she pushed him a bit too hard, and he ended up falling out of the window to his death. An upset [[Dr. William Griffin]] fled from the scene, only to be chased by Kate, who demanded to know why he and his son wouldn't just leave her (and Charlie) alone. Dr. Griffin replied that the Order is evil and must be destroyed.

Realizing that these people would never leave her friend alone if she remained [[trait positive]], Charlie injected Kate with the serum. Doing so, made her trait negative, thereby negating her desirability to [[the Order]], [[Dudley|the]] [[Dr. William Griffin|Griffins]], and the [[Hymn of One]]. However, it does not appear that this was what Kate wanted, as she started to cry, offered a cryptic apology, and ran off.

Since Kate is the same "trait-positive" as the girls in the [[Lonelygirl15]] series, it is unlikely that she is "trait-negative" after just one [[Creepy|injection]]. She was with [[Michelle Clore]] and [[The Order]] for almost a two-month period where she was never heard from.

It was revealed in [[Coming Home for Xmas]] that Michelle duped Kate into believing that Kate was an Elder whose memory was erased. In actuality, Michelle was keeping an eye on Kate to make sure her trait positive levels became normal again. This implies that Kate was being prepared for the [[Ceremony]]. Once Kate found out, she ran off with a list of genetically altered trait positives and lived on the streets. Kate's friends believed that Kate defected back to Michelle, but Michelle [[Kate Come Home|admitted]] that she had a team trying to track down Kate and did not know her whereabouts.

Charlie and Steve, with [[Patricia]]'s help, eventually [[Homeless (KateModern)|locate]] Kate, who pretends to go with them willingly, but makes a break for it when she tells them that she has to go to the bathroom. Kate has since [[Kate Positive|posted a vlog]], stating that she has found her purpose in life- to save the genetically engineered trait positives that Dr. Griffin created.

===After her death===
On January 13th, 2008, Kate was [[I Miss You...|stabbed]] [[Back to Brick Lane|to death]] on [[Brick Lane]] by a then unknown assailant. At the scene a Hymn of One symbol was painted in her blood, as the culprit attempted to perform some sort of religious ritual. At the news of her death, Charlie returned to London, and hosted a [[Kate's Memorial Service|memorial service]] which turns sour as the situation morphs into a case of whodunit.

The [[Who Killed Kate?|Suspects]] in her murder included:
[[Image:KateMemservice0167.JPG|thumb|left|Rest in Peace.]]
*'''Steve:''' The police [[Prime Suspect|arrested]] Steve right after her murder, but was [[It's Hymn!|released]] soon after. Some people thought Steve might have killed Kate because she was going to reveal Hymn of One secrets that she'd found out during her time with Michelle Clore. (Or even because she once knocked him out with a frying pan). In the course of the investigation, Steve reveals that he had [[Temper Temper|fallen in love]] with Kate.
*'''[[Rupert Van Helden]]:''' He is the author of the book [[Finding the One]], who was in the country at the time of Kate's murder. There were also [[Enter The FTO|rumors]] going around that he's into this new Hymn of One-Order-[[The Ceremony|life-extending ritual]] that involves drinking the blood of trait positive girls. But he showed that those were just rumors started by the FTO, who [[Who Are The FTO?|turned out]] to be just a couple of geeks that were related to Dudley and the specialist who wanted to make the Hymn of One look bad.
*'''Michelle Clore:''' [[Her Alibi|She claims]] that she and her [[Michelle Clore's Shadow|Shadows]] were on Adak Island at the time of the murder, and says there is footage proving it. However, she had a lot to lose from Kate revealing her secrets and a lot to gain from getting her hands on the list of trait positive girls. She also shifts the focus off of herself by implicating Steve. The level of involvement Michelle Clore had in Kate's death remains unknown.
*'''Gavin:''' Gavin always seemed to have it in for Kate, and reveled in any chance he got to make her miserable, as she made his life much more complicated that it already was. Gavin was [[East London|released from prison]] for [[Resolution|an assault]] on the Hymn of One London Centre after the Hymn of One decided not to press charges, suggesting that he may have gotten rid of Kate in exchange for his freedom. At her funeral though, [[Flowers|he says that]] although he and Kate never got along, he never wanted her dead.
*'''Tariq:''' While Gavin was in prison, Tariq went MIA after the assault on the Hymn of One London Centre. He surfaced at Kate's Memorial Service and accused Steve of murdering Kate. He has since calmed down, but his [[What Does Patricia Know?|constant fighting]] with Steve made it [[Enter The FTO|difficult]] for the investigation into her death to move forward. He also has a [[Walk of Shame|violent behavior]], not leaving murder outside the realm of possibility. He arose more suspicions when [[Stiff Upper Lip|he decided to go to India]] to escape the madness that followed him around in London, supposedly never to return.
*'''[[Tim]]:''' He was Kate's ex-boyfriend who was [[I like Pigeons!|mentioned a few times]] at the beginning of the series. [[The Ex Factor|Footage surfaced]] that indicated that Tim had a violent side, and that he stalked Kate when she tried to break up with him, leading her to call the police. However, when Charlie [[Brighton Beach|finds him]] and confronts him, he seems genuinely shocked to learn that Kate has died, convincing Charlie that he didn't kill Kate, though Sophie advocates that if you're capable of murder, you probably can hide it well.

As the investigation continued, Charlie began [[Doorstepping|receiving missed calls]] from a mysterious person, who she later discovered was [[A Call From Kate?|using Kate's phone]]. When she at last [[The Killer is Dead|manages to pick up the phone on time]], she is greeted with the audio of Kate being murdered. Upset greatly, she swears that when she finds the one responsible, she will do worse to him or her than was done to Kate.

During the [[Precious Blood]] Event, Kate's killer was revealed to be none other than [[Terrence]], who had been passing himself off as a member of the Hymn of One in order to connect with Steve and attempt to frame him in Kate's Murder. After he led the assault on the Hymn of One London Centre on New Years to try to get [[Project Orwell|Gavin and Tariq's software]] back, he was kept out of jail by the Order in exchange for his services. As part of his initiation into the organization, he was sent to find and return Kate and the List, but she resisted and he ended up killing her. Anxious because he had spilled trait positive blood, he attempted to correct his mistake by performing a Hymn of One ritual he had heard of, but later learned that there was no substance to the Hymn of One's teachings.

Kate's friends, both in real life and online, continue to work against the Order in order to avenge her death.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Kate (Genevieve)|link]] for theories about Kate.

==Meta==
When asked why Kate was killed off, co-executive producer [[Joanna Shields]] said, "We did actually, because the audience didn’t fancy her. We constantly take the pulse of the network about how they feel about a particular thing." [http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-midemnet-bebo-killed-katemodern-star-as-viewer-response/]

==External links==
*[http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article1657917.ece The Times interviews Miles about Kate]

{{Hoomember}}
{{KateCharIndex}}

Terrence

2008-08-14T23:27:19Z

Bobby G: He used to be in the HoO. As he said in Precious Blood, "The Hymn of One is fun..."

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'''Terrence''' is a businessman who obtained his status through shady methods. He was also the benefactor who lent [[Gavin]] and [[Tariq]] £15,000 to start their business.

==Background==
===Project Orwell===
Terrence was first seen as the villain of the series when he became very upset due to Gavin and Tariq's [[Project Orwell|software]] being stolen and [[The Leak|leaked]] by [[Lee]]. He initially [[Terrence (video)|visited]] them when they were hiding at [[Joan|Aunt Joan]]'s house, but left without causing harm after Gavin lied to him about the missing software, saying he would have it back later that day. The next day, he showed up at Aunt Joan's house again and turned his anger, specifically about how he had invested money into an illegal operation, into physical violence toward Gavin. Soon after, Lee lead a "treasure hunt," giving Gavin and Tariq a chance to get their software back. Little did he know, Terrence was also following the hunt, hoping to recover the software for himself.

[[Image:KM135-TerrenceGavinattack.jpg|thumb|left|Terrence attacks Gavin.]]In [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007]], Terrence got his chance at recovering the software when he knocked Lee out and had possession of the gnome in which it was hidden. However, [[Charlie]] and [[Julia]] soon discovered that the gnome contained the software and ran away with it. The software was then stolen by a [[Watcher]].

Following his defeat at the hands of the Watcher, Terrence became very hostile regarding obtaining the software and [[Janet|knocked]] Charlie out to take what he thought was his software. Gavin [[Deal with the Devil|eventually explained]] to Terrence that [[The Order]], a secret organization, was in possession of the software. The two planned on leveraging their possession of a list of [[trait positive]] girls for the return of their software. Unfortunately for Terrence, Gavin backed out of the plan, deciding instead to help Charlie save the girls. Later, Terrence contacted Gavin to reveal that he had [[The Ice Man|captured the Watcher]] in a refrigerated van.

On [[Resolution|New Year's Day]], Terrence sought revenge against the Order by attacking the [[Hymn of One recruitment centers#The Hymn of_One London Centre|Hymn of One London Centre]]. As Terrence pulled a semi-automatic weapon on a defenseless [[Michelle Clore]], a group of Michelle's [[Shadow]]s tackled Terrence and chased after a very frightened Gavin and Tariq.

===Deception and Murder===
[[Image:KM208-Terry.jpg|thumb|right|Terrence becomes "Terry."]]Terrence reappeared in [[Terry]], having changed his name to "Terry." He claimed to have done a complete 180, stating that he was a member of the [[Hymn of One]] and that the religion helped him sort his life out. Reformed, he decided to help his newest friend [[Steve]] in any way, specifically by [[Office Chaos|helping him talk to]] Charlie and by helping [[Lauren (video)|the sister of the latest abducted girl]], [[Lauren]]. Oddly enough, he became Steve's voice of reason, suggesting he [[Message to Lauren|try less "heavy-handed" tactics]] as well as trying to boost Steve's spirits.

However, it is soon revealed that the less "heavy-handed" tactic he suggested was [[Precious Blood: 11AM|kidnapping]] Lauren. Steve thinks he is keeping her safe, but Terrence only wanted her trapped in order to obtain her trait positive blood. Terrence uses Steve's [[Precious Blood: 2PM|lack of comfort]] to [[Precious Blood: 3PM|set him up]] as the culprit in Kate's murder by [[Precious Blood: 4PM|planting Kate's phone]] in Steve's bag. However, Charlie and Gavin soon discover that Terrence is actually the one responsible, having committed the murder so that the Hymn of One wouldn't press charges on his assault on their London branch. Due to the fact that Terrence tricked them deep into a bunker, both Charlie and Gavin barely make it out alive. Terrence, however, soon [[Precious Blood: 5PM|blogs and reveals that]] he's now, in fact, a [[Shadow]]. He was sent by the Hymn of One to retrieve Kate and the list of trait positive girls, but ended up killing her when she wouldn't cooperate. To compensate for it, he attempted to do a ritual sacred to the Hymn of One, but later found out there is no substance to the Hymn of One's teachings.

Soon after, Steve overpowers Terrence in the bunker and he and Lauren are able to escape from him. Terrence also escapes the bunker, [[Precious Blood: 8PM|abducts Charlie]] outside her apartment and threatens to rape her unless viewers can figure out where he's taking her. Lee and Sophie, along with the community, figure out that they're at [[Aunt Joan]]'s house and Lee [[Precious Blood: 9PM|joins]] Steve, Gavin, and Lauren on their quest to reach Aunt Joan's house in time. There, [[Precious Blood: 10PM|they discover that]] Terrence has doused the house in gasoline and planned to set it ablaze once they were inside. Before he can, a [[Kate's Watcher|Watcher]] and [[Michelle Clore's Shadow|Shadow]] appear, having been ordered to capture him due to his revealing too many secrets about The Order. Terrence [[Precious Blood: 10:30PM|manages to escape]], killing the Watcher in the process and burying him under some trash in an alley.

===Acts of Vengeance===
In early June, Lauren is contacted by [[The FTO]], who offer to help her take down Michelle Clore and Terrence so that she can live a more normal life. However, Lauren is soon [[. (video)|kidnapped]] by a person going by the name of "X," whom Charlie [[The Day She Died|believes]] is Terrence. After being found, Lauren reveals that she had actually teamed up with [[the FTO]], faking her kidnapping and fabricating the Bebo user "X." The reason they did this was to trick Terrence by claiming that the Order would trade Lauren for Shadow drugs. Terrence [[Answers|arrives at the meeting point]] and beats up [[Michelle Clore's Shadow]] with a golf club. He is then shot in the shoulder by [[Jeffrey]], an [[the FTO|FTO]] member, who leaves him for dead.

[[Image:KM282-TerrenceAngry.jpg|thumb|left|Terrence has no remorse.]]Shortly afterwards, Terrence reappears, attacks a [[The Russell Family|family]] in a park, and steals their camera. He then uploads [[Tez on Toast|a video]] claiming that he is not "X," but that he knows who "X" are and that he is angry with them, swearing revenge. Meanwhile, Terrence seems to have no remorse for killing Kate, even going so far as to write on his [http://www.bebo.com/tezontoast Bebo page]: "I killed Kate...and nobody even said thank you." Terrence successfully locates Jeffrey and [[Raymond]], the only two FTO members and the people behind "X," and ties them up in their "headquarters". He then uploads footage he found in their possession revealing what actually happened to Lauren. He then proceeds to menace his helpless hostages with a blowtorch and is assumed to have killed them, as he constantly stresses not to leave anyone alive. He also announces that he will come after Lauren next. He [[Love on the 436|almost does]] but is beaten down by [[Michelle Clore's Shadow]] before he can do her any harm. Lauren assumes that she is now safe, seeing that Terrence is in the hands of The Order.

===The End Is Upon Us===
However, Terrence reappears in [[The Last Work: 12PM]] and is revealed to be Patient 12 after Gavin releases him from his maximum security cell at [[KateModern minor locations#Grinstead|St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution]], where Gavin was also being held by The Order. Gavin had originally thought Patient 12 was Kate and after beating two doctors and stealing the key to Patient 12's room. However, after being led on by Terrence (who was kept under wraps in a straight jacket and head covering), he soon finds himself in a load of trouble as Terrence wreaks more havoc on him and his friends. He is later shown [[The Last Work#4PM BST|attacking]] [[Sophie]] and the [[Celestial Network]] members during a live chat, leaving the community in a panic.

[[Image:KM311-TerrenceTape.jpg|thumb|right|Left for dead.]]Shortly after the attack, Terrence [[The Last Work: 5PM|makes a blog]] aimed at Lauren, suggesting that they go off and get married so that he can have her trait positive blood. Lauren responds by calling him a [[The Last Work: 6PM|pervert]] and telling him that she's ready for him. Shortly after, she proves herself when she and Charlie [[The Last Work: 10PM|go]] to Kate's old house to find [[Hazel]], Kate's mother, dead by the hand of Terrence. Terrence steals the girls' camera and traps them in the house. However, they are soon able to slip out the back door and run into the woods. Terrence soon becomes distracted by Gavin and Lee, who have come to apologize to the girls for a previous argument, but soon finds the girls in the woods using night vision. As Terrence prepares to take on the girls, Charlie slips away from his view. Terrence begins to make a final advance towards Lauren, but Charlie appears behind him and thrusts the sword she had taken from Hazel's house into his stomach.

In [[The Last Work: 11PM]], the group reunites while Terrence is in the woods behind them, crying out for help. Terrence taunts the group, urging them to finish him off. However, they decide not to give him what he wants and leaves him to die in the woods. Before the group leaves, Terrence pulls a tape from his pocket which he claims is Kate's final blog before she was killed. The group chooses not to take it and the wrath of Terrence comes to an end.

==Theories==
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Talk:The Order

2008-08-14T22:05:47Z

Bobby G: New section: Order of Denderah

isn't this the same as the order of denderah?--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:42, 1 December 2006 (CST)

===knights templar===
don't be ridiculous. she said like knights, she didn't say they ''were'' knights. why the hell would a bunch of knight who have been dead a thousand years have anything to do with this?

===various orders===
"However, "the Order" is most likely just a shorthand way of saying "The Order of Denderah."" well DUH.
i think all this speculation that bree is part of these random groups just because they're called the order is retarded (and don't get all pc on me). yeah i'm sure bree is part of a neo-nazi gang and believes all non-aryans should be exterminated. i mean she hangs out with an arab, he's about as not-aryan as you can get (without being jewish). this info doesn't belong here.

== Revamp ==

I think this article is in need of a major revamp. The Order is an important part of the series, and many articles link to this one. When you get here, it's just a collection of little blurbs on a variety of Orders. We need to
#include more information of The Order as it has been described, and
#remove instances of extraneous information about other orders called "The Order", which have probably nothing to do with this series (Eg, that neo-nazi one)
[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:47, 19 December 2006 (CST)

:I did some work on it and I think it's headed in a better direction now. However, it still does not contain as much information about The Order as it could, so it could use more work. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 20:14, 19 December 2006 (CST)

::I agree, this page could use some work. And maybe after all of that work we can nominate it for a featured article. --[[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 15:26, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

== Capitalization Style ==

Should we strive to have references read "the Order" or "The Order"? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (CST)\

:Hmm. Good point, Brucker. I use both, but when I'm trying to be "literate" I usually use The Order with a capital T. Maybe we could use what [[BDJ]] uses the most in the video descriptions. --[[User:SilverBULLETx3|SilverBULLETx3]] 15:27, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

::Check out [[User talk:LGBot/archive#Great job!|this discussion]] that we had about this a while ago. We concluded that "the Order" was the way to go.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:31, 3 May 2007 (CDT)

==Edits==
I went through and cleaned up a bit of the language and standardized it to the rest of the 'pedia. Took out some random extra spaces and did other stuff like that. [[User:Grace2 89|Grace2 89]] 22:29, 29 November 2007 (CST)

== Order of Denderah ==

After [[Hidden Treasures]], it's pretty clear that the Order and the Order of Denderah are indeed one and the same. Should this page be renamed? [[User:Bobby G|Bobby G]] 17:05, 14 August 2008 (CDT)

Template:The Resistance

2008-08-14T22:00:04Z

Bobby G: Jerry is at least as notable as Swallow

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Lee

2008-08-14T21:54:27Z

Bobby G: /* With Sophie */ spelling

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'''Leopold "Lee" Phillips''' is a foe turned friend in the [[KateModern]] series. He currently resides in East London, and has had job in work experience at [[Tariq and Gavin's office|G&T IT]] and [[JustIncredible.TV]], both of which were involved in illegal operations.

==Background==
Lee grew up in Liverpool, where he went to school and finished doing his 'A' Levels in History, Business Studies and I.T. He was eager to get into the job market and sent an e-mail to [[Gavin]] requesting a position at their [[Tariq and Gavin's office|company]]. Gavin, appreciative of the opportunity for free labor, hired him immediately. He first appeared in the video [[Birthday Surprise]], where he came across as a suck up, but a bit spacey.

===Playing Games===
Since that time, Gavin and [[Tariq]] have taken [[Big Boys|complete]] [[Subservient Lee|advantage]] of Lee's position of a free employee. Gavin had Lee deliver flowers to Charlie, and he arrived just after [[Kate]] [[Genevieve (video)|murdered]] [[Dudley]]. A fews days later, Gavin [[Anything can happen on Halloween!|forces Lee]] to work Halloween night after Tariq takes the night off to spend it with [[Julia]]. Gavin has Lee strap a trash can to his head, and yell "Crikey!" every time he throws something in. Once he gets bored, Gavin leaves, a throws a piece of paper at Lee's face "accidentally". Gavin later has Lee help Charlie [[The Viral|practice]] for the [[The Last Chance|viral campaign]] for Gilette Power Stealth Razors. Gavin and Charlie agree that the original idea is terrible, but neither suggest any new ideas. When Charlie tries to ask Lee if he has any ideas, Gavin tells her not to bother, implying that he is too young to shave. Charlie gets fed up, and leaves. Lee suggests to Gavin that he get her chocolates, and Gavin reluctantly admits that it is a good idea.

[[Image:KM0122-Lee.jpg|thumb|left|Lee bites back.]]
Gavin and Tariq continue to abuse Lee, and deny his request to see the software they are developing. They send him off to get Luch, and scold him for not cleaning the office. Gavin further humiliates him by posting a contest called "[[Subservient Lee]]," where viewers tell Lee to do ridiculous things and he'll do them all on camera (minus the suggestion that he punch Gavin in the face, though Lee says that he'll be happy to do it). Lee finally fights back and [[The Leak|leaks]] information about Tariq and Gavin's [[Project Orwell|software]] onto the internet and removes all traces of the program from Tariq and Gavin's computers, leaving only a copy on his own hard drive. Due to the software's legal questionability, Gavin and Tariq are forced to go into hiding. Lee promises to give the software back as soon as Tariq and Gavin started apologizing for their treatment of him. However, when he [[The one that got away|meets with them]], they attack him and try to force him to give the software back.

Lee made Gavin, Charlie and Tariq (and with them, all the fans, including the supposed fan called [[Sophie]]) go on a treasure-hunt for the software with riddles that led them to different places within London. During this treasure-hunt, Sophie tried to help Gavin and Tariq by even getting involved in it personally, and Lee [[All the World's a Stage...|developed a crush on her]]. The treasure-hunt ends on a sour note with a [[Watcher]] getting the software and Lee being [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|beaten up by Terrence]]. Afterwards, Lee goes to Liverpool to spend the holidays with [[Lee's parents|his parents]], but leaves after he is unable to handle his mother's constant nagging.

===A Star is Born===
Beginning the new year on a fresh foot, Lee was revealed to be the Internet celebrity at [[JustIncredible.TV]], gaining prominance for the "treasure hunt" he held in November. He became the "face" of the channel, and the majority of their programs had Lee in a starring role, including "SpirituaLee", "Artifacts or Crap, In Fact", and "Car Park Cookery". Lee was pleased to work with [[Julia]], however, the feeling was not mutual. He became nervous when Tariq applied for a job, but was relieved to discover that Tariq did not hold a grudge. However, Lee became frightened once more when Gavin was hired at the office instead of Tariq.

[[Image:BTS Easter Party1.jpg|thumb|right|Lee in one of his costumes.]]
It was clear that Gavin wasn't as willing to forgive and forget as Tariq, and Lee contemplated quitting altogether. Fans managed to convince Lee that he needed to stay at the channel and face Gavin head on. He begins looking for an apartment, and answers Charlie's ad in the paper looking for a new roommate. However, Charlie [[2008 Will Not Suck|decides]] to go with [[Kyle]], who turns out to be the worst roommate ever. In an effort to promote the channel, Lee was ordered to go [[The Road to Manchester|on a road trip]] with Charlie, Gavin, and Julia. Gavin initially picked fights with Lee, still angry about the software incident. During [[Nuts and Needles|once such fight]], Gavin pushed Lee into a table with food on it, and Lee inadvertently ended up getting a peanut in his mouth. Due to Lee's horrible allergy to peanuts, he immediately went into shock and had trouble breathing. Gavin saved Lee's life by giving him an adrenaline injection, ending the feud between the two.

Upon returning to work, Lee acts like Gavin is his best friend and begins tagging along with him. He is filming when Julia and Gavin decide to [[WC ONE|snoop around]] [[Justin]]'s office, and is weirded out by a picture of him in a jockey outfit hanging on the wall. Gavin eventually [[MERRY-GO-ROUND|determines]] that Justin is committing Carousel fraud, and that he was never planning on paying his employees. At [[The Easter Party]], Gavin stages a walk out which Lee hesitates to join after Justin personally asks him not to. He ends up walking-out anyway, though the rest of the staff believe that he might scab (though Lee points out that he is work experience and technically can't scab). He joins [[JTV staff|the employees]]' surge of the office. They find Justin gone, and a video message from him where he informs everyone that he has signed over full directorship of JustIncredible.TV to Lee. Because of this, Lee gets arrested by the police because of the scam and spends the night in jail. The employees watch this unfold, and decide to steal the office equipment as compensation for their work.

===Life after JTV===
Lee helps Sophie and community members figure out Terrence's code to Charlie's location after he kidnaps her, and realizes that the address is that of Gavin's [[Joan|Aunt Joan]]. Lee goes to find Gavin after sharing a passionate kiss with Sophie, and [[Precious Blood: 9PM|finds him]] pursuing Steve after finding out he had made a move on Charlie. Lee convinces them to work together, and the three (along with [[Lauren]]) go to Aunt Joan's house to rescue Charlie. Upon [[Precious Blood: 10PM|arriving]], they discover that Terrence has doused the house in gasoline so he could set fire to it when they entered. Before he can, a Watcher and Shadow chase him away, and Gavin and Charlie begin arguing over the relations Charlie had with Steve earlier in the day. Both Steve and Gavin end up parting from the group, leaving Lee and Lauren to comfort her.

[[Image:KM232-Flatmates.jpg|thumb|left|Lee and his new flatmate.]]
Lee moves in with Lauren and Charlie shortly after, and he attempts to bring Charlie out of her depression with the lure of "[[Happy Food]]" (which ends up working). He later helps Lauren prepare for [[Jonas]]'s [[Raise The Roof|party]], where he spends a lot of time interacting with Sophie.

While Steve is [[Crazy Border Crossing!!|away in America]], Lee obtains tickets to Saturday of Radio 1’s Big Weekend. He posts a [http://www.bebo.com/BlogView.jsp?MemberId=4999964827&BlogId=6551713537 blog] saying that Scouting For Girls is playing, and he is really excited. He also says that Lauren is accompanying him and that Charlie will be working at the event. In the meantime, he [[Lee For Hire|begins]] his search for a [[Hey Jerk, You Work!|new job]] with the help of his former co-worker [[Meryl]]. He runs into Gavin at the Job Centre, and invites him to a [[The Dinner Party|dinner party]] to try to get back with Charlie. However, Steve shows up as well, and Charlie gets held up at work.

The next day, Lee gleefully attends Radio 1’s Big Weekend, where he uses a microphone from JTV to get behind the scenes and try to meet Scouting For Girls again. However, they avoid him like the plague, with confuses and upsets Lee, though he bounces back when he thinks he sees Madonna.

Lee is [[The Invitation|invited]] to Julia's wedding, but is distressed when Lauren denies his request to go to Julia's [[The Hen Night|hen night]]. However, Charlie and Lauren give in, but make him dress like a woman in order to attend. At the party, Lee runs into Sophie, and the two of them flirt before eventually making out after several drinks. They sit together at the [[Julia & Rupert|wedding]] the next day, but Lee leaves to try to comfort Gavin after he is rejected by Charlie. Lee becomes concerned over Gavin's mental health when he begins to [[Fictionality|accuse people]] of [[I Know|conspiring with Kate]] and wrecking his life.

===Assistance===
[[Image:KM269-CharlieLeelaugh.jpg|thumb|right|Lee enjoys his first day of work.]]
Charlie begins [[Skittle Yourself|holding interviews]] for the position of her assistant, and is taken off-guard when Lee comes in and begs Charlie for a job. Out of pity (and because the other candidates were rather strange), Charlie gave him the job, and planned to announce it to everyone a week later if it went well, but Lee spoils the surprise when he comes on camera and accidently knocks over some Skittles onto Charlie's desk. The two immediately get to work on brainstorming for the Skittles Campaign, and Lee comes up with an idea that Charlie actually likes: to have theirs friends on Bebo make videos about Skittles to help them out. Lee decides to participate as well, but has to [[Bump in the Night|harass Lauren]] to help him, as he can't do it well on his own. In the end however, Charlie deems [[Skittle Pickle|Lee's submission]] to be [[Didn't They Do Well!|the worst]].

Lee and Charlie become concerned after Julia [[Honeymoon Blues|returns from her honeymoon]] with a black eye, believing that Rupert has been abusing her. Julia [[Coconuts|denies this]], and goes as far as saying that their need to post footage on the internet has made then suspicious of anything that is not out there for all the world to see. Lee [[Golf Day Out|invites]] Sophie out on a date, accompanying Steve, Charlie, and Lauren on a fun day out. The day turns sour, however, when Lauren is "kidnapped". Lee and Charlie begin searching the streets for her, extremely worried. After coming home from a day of searching, [[Michelle Clore]]'s Shadow [[Where is She?|breaks into their apartment]], attacking Lee and demanding information on Lauren's whereabouts. They convince him that they don't know anything, and he leaves them wheezing on the floor.

Anxious and concerned, Lee [[The Family Phillips|called]] his older brother, [[Anthony|Anthony "Toe" Phillips]]. Toe arrived at his flat soon after, and threatened the Shadow via webcam. Lee isn't thrilled by his brother's behavior, and tries to paint his brother in a better light by [[Much, Much Worse|interviewing him]]. However, it is cut short by a call from Lauren, who [[Answers|reveals]] that the Shadow was enraged at Lauren because she voluntarily [[Answers|participated]] in a scheme that got [[Michelle Clore]] killed. Lee is taken aback by the revelation, and doesn't take to kindly to Charlie's promise to keep Lauren safe and ignoring her job.

===With Sophie===
When the group decides to [[Love on the 436|go to Paris]] to rescue Julia, Lee initially wants to join them, having an argument with Toe about who would go. When Sophie suggests that she can look after him, Lee suddenly becomes happy to let Toe go to Paris and for himself to stay in London with Sophie. To keep safe, Charlie suggests that Lee stays at Sophie's, which only seems to make the two of them even happier. Lee and Sophie then run, hand in hand, towards a bus which [[436|didn't exist]] and do not accompany the others to Paris. They watch from afar as [[The Morning After (KateModern)|Charlie is arrested]] and the others [[You've Been Framed|begin to blame one another]] for framing Charlie and [[Radio Ga Ga|stealing]] Michelle Clore's Last Artwork. Lee is [[Name the Traitor!|very upset]], but Sophie manages to hold herself together and figure out that Julia is the one responsible for Charlie's arrest. Lee is reluctant to believe that anyone could betray the group, but is [[Name the Traitor!|convinced]] when he spots Julia walking the streets of London with Rupert.

[[Image:KM306-Leeonphone.jpg|thumb|left|Lee on the phone with Sophie.]]
After Charlie is released from prison, they [[The Last Work: 1PM|meet the others]] as they return from Paris. Toe reveals that he had scammed Steve and Lauren to pay his way home, and Lee tries to persuade his brother to pay them back, but to no avail. After Toe leaves, they discover that Lauren has run off, and [[The Last Work: 2PM|discover]] that she has gone to Bill Cowan's flat and attacked him in order to provoke Julia. Lee and the others [[The Last Work: 4PM|rush to her rescue]], and are able to shield her from Julia's wrath. On their way back home, they come across an injured Rupert and reluctantly take him to the hospital. Meanwhile, Terrence [[The Last Work: 5PM|goes to]] Sophie's office and terrorizes her. Though Sophie claims she is fine, Lee [[The Last Work: 6PM|becomes anxious]] and pleads with Charlie to go see her and make sure she is okay. Needless to say, he isn't happy when they are sidetracked by [[Gavin]], who has escaped from his mental institution and [[The Last Work: 8PM|gone to]] Kate's childhood home. There, they meet [[Hazel Strathcarron|Kate's mother]], who explains to them why Kate moved to London and changed her name.

On [[The Last Work: 10PM|their way back]] to London, Hazel calls Charlie and asks her to come back so she can show them something. Lee refuses, the urge to check on Sophie winning out. Charlie and Lauren go alone, where they are attacked by Terrence. They manage to escape when Lee and Gavin show up and try (and fail) to overpower Terrence. Terrence pursues the girls, and is stabbed to death by Charlie while he focuses on Lauren. Afterwards, the group [[The Last Work#11PM BST|met up with Sophie]], and Lee was relieved to see that she was indeed okay. They then go on to the new flat where Steve has [[The Last Work: 12AM|set up]] a birthday celebration for Lauren.

While they celebrate, they realize that taping their lives was partly responsible for the chaos that ensued. While Sophie admits that some good has come out of it (i.e. meeting Lee), the group agrees that they should stop unless something major happens. They throw the camera up in the air, and wave goodbye as it smashes on the ground.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Lee|link]] for theories about Lee.

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Cynthia

2008-08-14T21:53:28Z

Bobby G: spelling

{{One other use|the Flock character|the Maddison Atkins character|Cynthia Frady (character)}}
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'''Cynthia Davis''' is a character in [[The Flock|The Chosen Flock]] Video Series. Cynthia is an old friend of [[horrorlass|Alessandra]]. She comes from a troubled family and tends to have a wild streak, often making jokes at the expense of her friend [[Other Chosen Flock Characters#Paul|Paul]].

==Background==
Cynthia grew up in London in an loving environment, her parents doting on her and raising her to be a well-mannered person. She and her best friend Alessandra became close at a young age, and Alessandra [[My Advice Is Better Than Sophie's!|helped Cynthia]] overcome her fear of the horror genre by pointing out all the fake aspects it contained. The two of them once [[The Duck Pond|ran away from home]] after an argument with their parents and childishly decided to live next to a duck pond they were fond of visiting. However, they were soon located, and they returned home. As they grew older, Alessandra's parents became concerned that Cynthia's partying lifestyle was exerting a negative influence over Alessandra, and they moved to a different part of London when Alessandra was 16.

A year older than her friend, Cynthia began attending college, but quit after she became bored of it, and instead immersed herself in the London party scene. Presumably, this is how she met her boyfriend [[Other Chosen Flock Characters#Matt|Matt]], who is a bouncer for an 18-and-over club. Cynthia and her friends made plans to attend an Arctic Monkeys concert at Matt's club, and Cynthia [[Re: Horror Movies vs Horror Films...|took the opportunity]] to ask Alessandra to spend some time with her old friends. Alessandra accepts the invitation, and [[My Ingenious Plan Worked!|snuck out]] of her house and spent the night with her friends. Afterwards, Matt's boss was informed that he had snuck in underage individuals and Matt was nearly fired from his job. However, Matt's father knew the owner of the club, and managed to have him keep his job. Matt had to work overtime to make up for it, and also had to call Cynthia's parents to let them know what their daughter had been up to.

As a result, Cynthia was grounded for two weeks, and spent her time watching the reality show ''Big Brother''. She soon regroups, and invites Alessandra to a weekend sleepover. However, Alessandra failed to show up and stopped responding to Cynthia's messages. Cynthia [[Where Are You?|became]] extremely worried, and makes a video pleading with Alessandra to contact her, and telling to not to flat out not let her parents influence her decisions. Alessandra [[Listen to my story|responded]] with a rather ominous video that contained the message "''[[Other Chosen Flock Characters#Sophie|Sophie]] watches all''", referring to her new adviser. Cynthia [[My Last Video Maybe?|posts a response]] saying that she's sorry for bugging Alessandra and will leave her alone, while secretly conveying the message "''Understood''". She reveals that her father was fired from his job due to budget cuts, but seemed to be the only one who was, and he's too depressed to look for another. Her mother gets a job at a coffee shop, and Cynthia begins looking for a job as well. A few weeks later, Cynthia is hired to play guitar at her mother's coffee shop, and she makes one final effort to [[Movie Time!|invite]] Alessandra to spend time with her.

However, [[A Change for the Worse|the day of the event]], the coffee shop is closed due to a radium leak. Cynthia finds out via her mom that the man who was injured by the leak was a member of the [[Hymn of One]] posing as an equipment inspector. Cynthia realizes that the incident was a failed attempt on her life, and she calls Paul, who freaks out and tells Cynthia to go on the run. Cynthai and Matt go to a hotel, and Cynthia gets a text message from Paul telling her that he has Alessandra and he'll meet her there. However, [[What's Been Going On|they never show up]], and Cynthia decides to go spend time with her cousin in Scotland in order to distance herself from London. When she returned to London, Cynthia found out that the coffee shop in question belonged to a woman named [[Michelle Clore]], a world famous artist and an [[Elder]] of the Hymn of One. She decides to investigate, and goes to an [[The Gallery - 6pm 22nd September 2007|art exhibition]] to promote the art of [[Kate|Kate Strathcarron]] that Clore is attending. However, Cynthia learned nothing that would help her, and Michelle Clore is assaulted minutes after entering the exhibition and is forced to leave.

Soon afterwards, Cynthia is contacted by an individual claiming to be Alessandra via [[Bebo]]. Alessandra then posts [[We're Safe|a video]] telling Cynthia that she is safe, and posts a riddle that leads Cynthia to a drop she and Paul left at the duck pond. The drop contains a google map of Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, UK, the birthplace of [[Aleister Crowley]]. Cynthia [[No News Is Supposedly Good News|convinces Matt]] to take her there to look around. However, they find nothing that would suggest Alessandra and Paul were there, and Matt tells Cynthia that she is probably the victim of a cruel joke. Cynthia reluctantly gives up the search for Alessandra, seeing logic in Matt's explanation. She begins to take steps to live a normal life again, and [[After Party|tells the police]] that she knows nothing about Paul and Alessandra's whereabouts after his parents reopen the case. She attends Holly's birthday party, and passes out on the bed, only to wake up to a camera sitting on the nightstand and filming her. Cynthia tells the camera all that has happened, and says that she needs to forget about Alessandra before she goes insane.

==Notes==
*Cynthia knows sign language, as revealed in the message she conveys Alessandra through the ability in ''My Last Video Maybe?''
*Cynthia has a dog, who appeared in her videos ''Movie Time!'' and ''The Duck Pond''
*She appeared at the Second Space Gallery in KateModern in [[The Gallery - 6pm 22nd September 2007]].

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[[Category:New Girl Candidates]]

Parents

2008-08-14T21:52:41Z

Bobby G:

'''Parents''' may refer to:

'''Lonelygirl15:'''<br>
*[[Bree's parents]] ([[Drew Avery]], [[Elizabeth Avery]], or her [[Bree's biological parents|birth parents]])
*[[Daniel's parents]]
*[[The Whartons]] - [[Jonas]] and [[Emma]]'s parents
*[[Taylor and Sarah's parents]] ([[Taylor and Sarah's mom|Mother]] and [[Taylor and Sarah's dad|Father]])
*[[Gemma's parents]]
*[[Jules's parents|The Andersons]] - [[Jules]] and [[Cameron]]'s parents
*[[Isaac Gilman]] and [[Spencer's mom]]
*[[Emma's parents]] - Emma's first adoptive parents
*[[Jennie's parents]]
*[[Dr. Calvin Hart]] - Gina's adoptive "father"
*[[Alex's parents]]
*[[Edward Salinas]] - Father of two daughters
*[[Adopting couple]] - Adoptive parents of the [[Ceremony baby]]
*[[Nikki's mom]]
*Mallory claims to have daddy issues

'''KateModern:'''<br>
*[[Hazel Strathcarron]] - [[Kate]]'s adoptive mother
*[[Charlie's mom]]
*[[Tariq's parents]]
*[[Lee's parents|The Phillips]] - [[Lee]] and [[Anthony|Toe]]'s parents
*[[Bill Cowan]] - [[Julia]]'s father
*[[Charlie]] - [[Kim]]'s biological mother
*[[Rose]] - Kim's adoptive mother
*[[Jeffrey's mom]]
*Parents of [[The Van Helden baby]] - ([[Rupert Van Helden]], [[Michelle Clore]], and [[Julia]])
*[[Dr. William Griffin]] - [[Dudley]]'s father
*[[Janet's dad]]
*[[The Russell Family|Dave and Maxime Russell]]
*Steve's parents are implied to be deceased

'''Other:'''<br>
*[[Rachel's parents]] ([[Redearth88]])
*[[Gregory Atkins]] and [[Evelyn Atkins]] - Parents of [[Maddison Atkins]]
*[[Joel Frady]] and [[Cynthia Frady (character)|Cynthia Frady]] - Parents of [[Bethany Frady]]
*[[Mr. Zipp]] - Asks Maddison Atkins to save his child's life
*[[Other Chosen Flock Characters|Parents of the Flock Girls]] - Parents of the girls in [[The Flock]]
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Meryl

2008-07-20T01:24:06Z

Bobby G:

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'''Meryl''' hails from the island of Anglesey in North Wales. She is the most vocal member of the [[JTV staff]], voicing her opinions when no one else would dare. She is seen frequently drinking, as well.

==Background==
She is first seen [[33 DAYS TILL LAUNCH!!|asking]] [[Julia]] to deliver a package, and continues to have a background role during the production of [[JustIncredible.TV]]. For example, she [[Arma-goo-den|accompanies]] Julia to [[Drive Goo|Cadbury Creme Egg car]] demonstration in Leicester Square, and carries the "[[Boobcast|Late Night Boobcast]]" poster for Julia's segment. She is also seen frequently in the background, usually with a sullen look on her face conversing with another employee or with Justin. At [[The Easter Party]], she is seen standing alone with a drink in her hand, not once interacting with anyone who is having a good time. When Gavin proposes a walk-out, she is seen following him out of the building while Lee lingers in indecision. She becomes more active during the [[Bust Incredible|walk-out strike]]. She reveals that she has been working for the station for four months and hasn't been paid at all. When they discover that [[Justin]] has split and left [[Lee]] in charge, Meryl answers the phone and informs the group that the police are looking for Lee. While Lee goes downstairs, Meryl gets fed up and decides to take equipment as compensation for her work, and her co-workers soon follow suit.

Meryl resurfaces at [[Raise The Roof|Jonas's welcome party]] a few weeks later, where she is shown with a drink the entire time. Afterwards, she and Lee [[Hey Jerk, You Work!|begin searching]] for new jobs, though she gets annoyed by Lee's antics, reminding them several times that they are unemployed. After filming Lee's conversation with Gavin, she ultimately decides to look for a job on her own. During her job hunt, she [[Skittle Yourself|applies]] for the position of [[Charlie|Charlie's]] new assistant. She is seen crying during the interview, and reveals that she desperately needs the job. She is unprepared for the interview, and ends up leaving of her own accord in distress.

[[Image:WeddingPhoto2-cropped-Meryl.jpg|thumb|left||100px|Meryl the bridesmaid.]]
She and Julia seem to be close, as she is mentioned by name along with Charlie, [[Gavin]], and Lee in the invitation to her unity bond with [[Rupert Van Helden]]. She is among the guests who attend Julia's [[The Hen Night|hen night]], and drinks to the point where she passes out on a couch. The next day, she is present at the unity bond ceremony as Julia's only bridesmaid, and doesn't smile once the entire time, neither on camera nor in pictures.

Her desperate circumstances seemed to have made her more vulnerable, and she is susceptable to Steve's persuasion to [[The Naked Truth|join]] [[The Celestial Network]], later saying that she was "forced into joining". She arrives at the first meeting late, but leaves early after it is disrupted by Gavin's antics. She is later seen [[Five's a Crowd|hanging out]] with Steve, and accompanies him to meet Charlie for a date. Charlie doesn't respond well to this, as it is implied that Meryl, Steve, and the other members of the Celestial Network are partaking in a polygamist-like practice. She is seen again at [[Celestial Not-work|a meeting]] of The Celestial Network at [[the new flat]], but she and the others are kicked out by Charlie, who is not pleased that they are meditating there. Meryl, like the others, was [[Disconnect With Me|upset]] when [[Steve]] decided to end [[The Celestial Network]]. She commented that Steve's [[K-Team|friends]] had always been a little weird. However, along with [[Jeremy]] and [[Balthazar]], Meryl [[The Last Work#4PM BST|decided to keep]] the Celestial Network alive. They accepted an invitation from Sophie to speak about it on a live chat and answer questions, but it was [[The Last Work: 5PM|interrupted]] by Terrence, who chased Meryl off and terrorized the others.

Meryl spent the rest of the night wandering around the city, and [[The Last Work: 12AM|encountered]] The K-Team as they celebrated Lauren's birthday. Meryl holds the camera for them as they talk about the past year, and is present when they decide to stop blogging and break the camera.

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K-Team

2008-07-20T01:10:54Z

Bobby G: /* Unofficial Members */ more info on Toe

The '''K-Team''' is a nickname for the group of the main protaganists in the [[KateModern]] series.

The nickname was coined by KateModern fan Houdini on the KateModern forum in a discussion of what to call the characters. The K-Team is a reference to the 1980s action television show, the A-Team. The K-Team tag is also similar to [[lonelygirl15]]'s [[TAAG|BDJ]], or as [[Tachyon]] might say, [[TAAG]].

The name was first used in the series itself in [[Orivwa]], in which Julia uses it to describe herself and her friends.

==Official Members==
*[[Kate]] (Deceased)
*[[Charlie]]
*[[Gavin]]
*[[Tariq]] (In India)
*[[Steve]]
*[[Sophie]]
*[[Julia]] (Betrayal)
*[[Lee]]
*[[Lauren]]

==Unofficial Members==
*[[Terrence]] (Fought the Order with Gavin and Tariq, later companion to Steve) (Betrayal)
*[[Meryl]] (Involved in many K-Team conflicts)
*[[Jeremy]] (Loyal companion to Steve)
*[[Anthony]] (Proven loyal on trip to Paris, left after a falling out with Steve)

==External links==
[http://www.lg15.com/katemodern/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=45 Forum Post]

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Anthony

2008-07-20T01:08:23Z

Bobby G: /* Background */ grammar

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'''Anthony "Toe" Phillips''' is [[Lee]]'s older twin brother. He is from Liverpool and works for someone named Wozzer, who is "like a wholesaler".

==Background==
Toe [[The Family Phillips|comes to London]] after Lee is [[Where is She?|attacked]] by [[Michelle Clore's Shadow]]. Anthony takes the role of a bodyguard, and calls out the Shadow on camera, threating that if he ever messed with the Phillips family again, he would do him some serious damage. He expresses his annoyance with Lee's video blogging, and finds Lee's friends weird after he overhears [[Jeremy]] talking to [[Steve]] and [[Charlie]] about [[The Celestial Network]]. Lee feels that Toe left a bad impression on viewers, so he decides to [[Much, Much Worse|interview his bother]] to show that he is actually much nicer than he makes himself out to be. However, Toe answers every question sarcastically, and the interview is cut short when [[Lauren]] calls. Toe goes with Lee and Charlie to meet her, and they become frustrated with him when he lags behind. Once they arrive, Toe is the one filming, and repeatedly focuses the camera on certain parts of Lauren's anatomy, frustrating Lee.

When the group decides to [[Love on the 436|go to Paris]] to rescue Julia, Toe wants to go with them, which Lee suspects is because he fancies Lauren. Although Toe denies this, he continues to focus the camera on the same parts of Lauren's anatomy, and also tries to make a move on her, which Lauren quickly rejects. Indeed, Toe does end up in Paris and, after [[Tour de France|spotting]] [[Security guard|Julia's bodyguard]], goes to 'sort him out'. Instead, Toe accompanies the bodyguard into a bar, but he doesn't come out and is nowhere to be seen when the group follow him. Toe is [[Operation: Rescue Jools|next seen]], without explanation, with Julia when the bodyguard leads the group to her. He rejoins the group with Julia, getting very drunk at the party the group has to [[The Morning After (KateModern)|celebrate]] their rescue of Julia. However, the feelings of success are short-lived, as Charlie is arrested for stealing [[Michelle Clore]]'s Last Work.

[[Image:62808Chat2-Toefight.jpg|thumb|left|100px|Toe battles the blogosphere.]]
Julia pleads with Steve to go home, afraid that Rupert may come looking for her. Steve and Lauren get angry at her, but Toe agrees with her, pointing out that there isn't much they can do to help Charlie, especially since they don't speak the language. He also agrees with Julia that her husband is likely the one responsible for all this. However, he begins [[Pointing Fingers|to doubt]] Charlie's innocence, and begins a barrage of finger-pointing. After Julia accuses Lauren of stealing the painting, Steve defends her, and points out all the facts supporting Julia as the Traitor. Julia begins to cry, and Toe becomes angry at Steve, saying that he's "''bang'' out of order". Steve [[Whodunit?|points out]] that they know nothing about Toe, and that he might have stolen the painting out of greed. Toe bites back, reiterating that they are no closer to figuring out who really did it.

Back in London, Sophie and Lee [[Name the Traitor!|put their heads together]] and conclude that it was Julia who stole the painting. Before they can contact the others, Julia [[The Traitor Revealed|splits from the group]] and heads back to London with Rupert, leaving the others dazed in Paris. [[The Last Work: 1PM|The next day]], Toe pretends to be broke in order to get Steve and Lauren to pay his way home, only to reveal that he had money the entire time, citing that they didn't like him, and decided not to disappoint their expectations that he was "nothing". Steve gets angry, and tries to get him to pay them back. Toe refuses, even when Lee tries to persuade him, and goes off to Sophie's office. There, [[The Last Work#2PM BST|he participates]] in a live chat. He spends most of the time calling out the guys for a fight and asks the girls to marry him. Sophie becomes extremely annoyed with him, and she is advised by the chat to smack him in the face. Sophie asks him to apologize for his rude behavior, and Toe asks for a kiss, which Sophie refuses.

JackG, a one of the chat members, labels Toe's behavior as sexual harassment. Toe gets angry at this, and says that he is going back to Liverpool and saying goodbye to Bebo. While Sophie expresses her relief to the camera, Toe steals a bag of supplies Sophie bought at the Apple Store and leaves.

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Clore's Shadow

2008-07-20T01:06:33Z

Bobby G: minor corrections

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The '''[[Shadow]] of [[Elder]] [[Michelle Clore]]''' is a man who joined the [[Hymn of One]] after reading "[[Finding the One]]" in jail. He credits the book for "saving" his life and is extremely devoted to Michelle Clore, whom he is assigned to serve and protect.

==Background==
The Shadow is first seen during [[Terrence]]'s [[Resolution|raid]] of the Hymn of One's London Centre. He [[Her Alibi|shows up]] wherever Michelle does and doesn't take kindly to those who interact with her. Along with [[Kate's Watcher]] he [[Precious Blood: 10PM|pursues]] [[Terrence]] after he [[Precious Blood: 5PM|spills too many secrets]] about the inner workings of the Order. He is seen chasing after Terrence, and lives after Kate's Watcher is [[Precious Blood: 10:30PM|murdered]] by Terrence in the pursuit. He is [[Straight To The Top|later seen]] continuing to protect Michelle, and doesn't react well to [[Lauren]] slapping her.

Two weeks later, Lauren is "[[. (video)|kidnapped]]" by a mysterious individual named "[[The FTO|X]]", in what later turned out to be a ruse set up by Lauren and the founders of the FTO, [[Jeffrey]] and [[Raymond]]. They set up a meeting with Michelle Clore, claiming that Terrence, whom they framed for the kidnapping, is willing to trade Lauren for more Shadow drugs. Michelle and her Shadow [[Answers|arrive]], but grow impatient when Terrence doesn't show up. Michelle orders her Shadow to take Lauren away, which he does so by force. On the way out, however, Terrence arrives and beats him unconscious. While he was out, Jeffrey charges in, fatally shooting Michelle. Once he regained consciousness and discovered what had happened, The Shadow goes to find the ones responsible for her death. As he didn't see Jeffrey or Raymond, he only [[Where is She?|looks for Lauren]]. He goes to [[the new flat]] and attacks [[Charlie]] and [[Lee]], demanding that they tell him where Lauren is. When they tell him they don't know where she is, he leaves them on the floor wheezing.

After Michelle's death, he was assigned to protect [[Rupert Van Helden]] and his wife [[Julia]]. He dislikes his new position, and is disappointed to learn that the man who wrote the book who "saved" his life didn't measure up to expectations. He accidentally enters the frame in Julia's video [[Orivwa|announcing]] her travel plans, which lead to Charlie and Lauren [[Her Indoors|looking inside]] the house through the window. They see Rupert enter and act abusively towards Julia and the Shadow. They [[Rupert's Dead|take the footage]] to the police, but are told that they didn't have enough proof.

[[Image:KM309-WTF-cropped.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Holding Julia hostage.]]
Despite Rupert's treatment of him, the Shadow assists him and Julia in deceiving the [[K-Team]] in order to frame them for stealing Michelle Clore's Last Work, which contains her financial information and access to her bank accounts. However, he is not seen accompanying the couple to Paris. He [[The Traitor Revealed|is spotted leaving]] the station with Julia and Rupert upon their return, and tells Sophie and Lee to keep their distance when they try to talk to Julia.

[[The Last Work: 4PM|The next day]], he accompanies Julia and Rupert to her father's house after Lauren posts a video of herself attacking him. When they arrive, they find Lauren gone and Charlie and Lee there instead. The Shadow stands by silently as Julia threatens Charlie and the others, and glares at them as they leave. It is not entirely clear what happened next, but it can be deduced that The Shadow became sick of being abused by Rupert. He pulls their car over, attacking Rupert and kidnapping Julia. Afterwards, he posts [[The Last Work: 7PM|a video]] explaining that he is sick of doing chores for the Order and that he's going to start looking out for himself. He tells Rupert to bring the Last Work or Julia will die. Rupert and Steve [[The Last Work: 9PM|find the location]], and Rupert begs for Julia's life, and for the life of the baby she is carrying. The Shadow informs Rupert that he has slept with Julia, and that the baby might not be his. However, Rupert reveals that the baby is actually his and Michelle Clore's. The Shadow is extremely amused by this, and says that although he liked Michelle, he doesn't really care about her child and only wants the financial information. Julia is shocked, and watches helplessly as Rupert is brutally attacked by the Shadow. Rupert [[The Last Work#12AM BST|hands over]] the painting to save Julia, but is killed by the Shadow in the process. The Shadow is probably far away enjoying the funds in Michelle Clore's bank accounts right now.

==Notes==
*Some fans have nicknamed him "Deebo" after the character from the "Friday" series, because of his violent nature.

==See Also==
*[[Shadow]]s

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The Whartons

2008-07-18T01:00:25Z

Bobby G: /* Notes */

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==Background==
'''Raymond Joseph and Mrs. Wharton''', parents to [[Jonas]] and [[Emma]], were (until recently) thought to be [[Happy Thanksgiving|lost at sea]] several years ago while sailing around the [[Longitude 140|140th longitude]]; no wreckage was ever found. [[Jonas]] explained this incident in his earlier videos, but offered no explanation for their mysterious disappearance. He later mentioned that they used to [[Interrogation 101|"do weird stuff"]], and that they were traveling all the time, or constantly out on their boat.

In later videos, more information about his parents began to surface. Raymond was in an [[The Resistance|anti-Order movement]] and wrote [[The Order in the Modern Empire|a thesis]] on it, which was shared with many high-profile people. The Whartons also started a foundation, the goal of which has not yet been revealed.

When Jonas visited his [[Alex|aunt's]] house, he discovered a [[My Hand Hurts|scrapbook of news clippings]] compiled by her. The initials of the people his father CC'd on the thesis matched the people who had disappeared. He took this to mean that they had been working for the resistance together and gotten snuffed out by [[the Order]]. Jonas assumed that the scrapbook meant his aunt, [[Alex]], was also part of the resistance, however [[Tachyon]] and [[Bree]] suspected [[Lucy!?!?!|otherwise]], warning Jonas against staying with his aunt. When he confronted Alex, she confessed her [[Alex Is...|true allegiances]] and that she did, indeed, betray his parents. Adding insult to injury, Alex claimed that they were still alive and that they probably didn't remember him.

===Reunion===
[[Image:0265-JonasParents.jpg|thumb|left|Remember Them?]]
In [[Remember Them?]], [[Claire|LaRezisto]] showed images of a couple, claiming they were Jonas's parents. She intimated that their memories had somehow been erased, and urged Jonas to come find them. Jonas [[Hey Dad|soon revealed]] that they were, in fact, his parents, but that he had no intention of trying to find them, angrily blaming them for abandoning him. After realizing that LaRezisto was also filming him, Jonas went to find [[A Family Affair|his family]], hoping to help in the resistance.

When Jonas met his parents again, they invited him in, but greeted him with skepticism because they didn't remember who he was. Jonas said that they had a picture of him as a child and was convinced they remembered him deep down inside. At this reunion, he was introduced to his younger sister [[Emma]].

After finding out that Emma was the new [[trait positive]] ceremony girl, Jonas made plans to take her and hide, however, the Order [[Home Invasion|invaded their home]] and tried to take her by force. The Whartons were shot in the struggle, however the injuries were not serious. Jonas and Daniel dropped them off at the hospital before leaving for [[Arizona]].

Jonas did not speak with his parents for a while, but [[Batting Practice|called them]] after [[Watch Your Back|losing Emma]]. He spoke to his father, who said that he did not believe anything Jonas had said, and wanted nothing further to do with him unless he had Emma. Later, in the video [[What Happened?]], they talk to Emma and say: "Jonas is not gonna bother you ever again. We won't let that happen."

===Emma and her Parents===
After spending a period of time with her parents, Emma [[Killers at the Door?!|ran away]] to find Jonas after her parents wouldn't listen to her about her noticeable similarities to [[Gina]], a girl who Emma thought at the time had died from turning trait negative. In the video [[A Girl Alone]] Emma showed us a video that her parents put on the internet asking anyone who knew of Emma's whereabouts to contact them. They were very distraught in the video.

Shortly after arriving at the cabin, against Jonas's wishes, Emma [[Playing With Wood| contacted her parents in a chat room]]. They told her how much they loved her and that they really wanted her to come back home. Though hesitant at first, Emma said she would think about it. Soon after, [[I Love You All|Emma decided to go back to them]]. She took a train and met with her parents. For two months they hid from the Order, who eventually determined their location. Fearing for Emma's safety, her parents decide to create a diversion so that Emma can safely reach a [[Lonelygirl15 minor locations#Bunker 7|secret bunker]] that had been used by the resistance. They promised they'd contact her as soon as it was safe, but they [[Girl Grown Up|haven't been heard from]] since.

==Relationships==
[[Image:Inside LG15 - Jonas Family.jpg|thumb|The family dynamics.]]
'''Jonas:''' It is unclear whether or not The Whartons even remember that Jonas is their son. They don't seem to have any concern for him. Jonas has said that [[Cat Hunt| he doesn't even think of them as his parents anymore]]. He recently has said that he [[I Lost It| felt abandoned]] when they "died" and when Emma [[I Love You All|left]] he felt that same abandonment again. Jonas's parents "death" and return seems to have had a big affect on him.

'''Emma:''' While wanting nothing to do with Jonas, they are very loving to Emma. They seem to want nothing more then have Emma home with them so they can go back to having a normal life.

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==The Whartons and the [[Hymn of One]]==
The Whartons were once in [[The Resistance]] against the Order. It is assumed that they must have been a real threat to the Order that they were kidnapped and brainwashed. It is unknown why they were even kept alive. In [[A Family Affair]] Jonas learned that his parents were now with the Hymn of One.

During their [[Playing With Wood|chat with Emma]] they said that they were no longer with the Hymn of One. But they very easily could have been lying. Thanks to the Order, it appears that Jonas's parents have not really been themselves for a long time.

==Notes==
*Some fans have speculated that Jonas's parents may be Bree's biological parents, however, this seems highly unlikely due to the fact that Bree and Jonas [[The Morning After|slept together.]] This was disproven in [[Bloodlines: Part 4]], where Bree was said to be born in Russia along with her sister Gina.

*According to IMDB Jonas's father's name was originally credited as "David", and Jonas's mother's name is Joyce.

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Jonas in a Bathtub

2008-07-18T00:52:42Z

Bobby G:

<noinclude>[[Image:0401-JonasBeerBath.jpg|thumb]]
Jonas likes to take baths. Seriously.
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| 125 || [[Sleepover]] || Jonas hops in the tub to get away from Bree.
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| 162 || [[Psychological Torture]] || Jonas wakes up in the tub.
|-
| 179 || [[Quitting The Sauce]] || Jonas tries to remember being captured.
|-
| 401 || [[Beer Bath]] || Jonas takes a bath in beer and sorrows.
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| 466 || [[Raise The Roof]] || Jonas hops in the tub with Charlie for a chat.
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| 523 || [[Handcuffed]] || Jonas gets in a bath to interrogate Lucy.
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</noinclude><includeonly>*This is the {{{1}}} out of six times we've seen [[Jonas in a Bathtub|Jonas in a bathtub]] so far.</includeonly>

Handcuffed

2008-07-18T00:52:13Z

Bobby G: /* Notes */

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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' (''voice over'') I wasn't sure about posting this, but it's- (''The shot fades to a distant doorway'') well, it's just too important. And as they say on TV, viewer discretion is advised.

(''Jonas is heard grunting and he soon comes through the doorway dragging Lucy by her hands''.)

'''Jonas:''' Okay. We're almost there. What? We're almost there.

(''Lucy's handcuffed hands fall in front of the camera. Water can be heard running in the background. Jonas drags Lucy out of view and the shot cuts to Jonas turning off the bath faucet. Jonas throws Lucy into the tub''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hmm? (''Slaps Lucy's face'') You awake? Huh, (''aggressive'') you awake now?

(''Jonas walks away for a second, leaving Lucy in the tub with her mouth taped, but comes back shortly to slap her in the face. He then picks her up and handcuffs her hands to the shower rod. He pushes her head back and steps back, leaving Lucy hanging uncomfortably''.)

'''Jonas:''' You're a [[helper]], huh? (''Walks over to Lucy'') If I were you, I'd needa help you!

(''Jonas punches Lucy in the gut and elbows her in the face. He then gives her body a push and walks away. Cut to a close up of Lucy's face, which Jonas is squeezing in his hand. He pushes her bangs out of her face''.)

'''Jonas:''' I needa see your face. (''Grabs face'') C'mere! Why have you been following me for all these years? Huh? Without killing me? It's cause of the [[Blood Will Flow|microchip]]? [[Rooftop Brawl|The key]]? Hmm?

(''Jonas punches Lucy in the face and then lifts her head up by her bangs. Lucy begins spitting blood and is breathing heavily''.)

'''Jonas:''' Listen... listen to me. Huh? Want more? (''Lucy spits blood at Jonas'') Aww!! (''Punches Lucy again and grabs her by her bangs'') Look at me! (''Cut to Lucy looking emotionless hanging from the rod'') Why is the key so important? The microchip? Huh? Why do you guys want it so bad? What's on it? What's on it, Lucy? Oh! (''Laughing'') Oh ho ho ho ho! Wait a minute! I get it. You don't know! (''Gets close to Lucy's face'') You don't know, do you? (''Lucy slaps Jonas in the face with her arm'') Whoa! (''Jonas is heard sniffing as if his nose is bleeding'') That was not good. That was not good. (''Rubs Lucy's face and then grabs it'') Hm? Look at that face. Let me see that face! Huh? (''Punches her in the face'')

(''Cut to Lucy, bloodied, sitting in the tub with her head against the faucet. Jonas steps into the tub and hovers over her. Jonas sighs''.)

'''Lucy:''' Jonas.

'''Jonas:''' What? What was that?

'''Lucy:''' Jonas.

'''Jonas:''' Do you wanna say something? What?

'''Lucy:''' (''Swallows'') Goodbye. (''Starts coughing'')

'''Jonas:''' (''Gets out of the tub'') Oh shit! (''Lucy spits blood'') No! No! No! No! No! You stupid bitch, no! (''Grabs Lucy's face'') You don't- hey! You don't get to die! You don't get to die! It's not that easy! (''Lucy goes limp'') No! You don't get to die! You don't get to die, it's not that easy! Fuck!

(''Cut to Jonas sitting at the table''.)

'''Jonas:''' She's dead. She's dead! I- she must have had something hidden in her mouth. Like, I dunno, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide cyanide] maybe? I don't know. (''Exhales'') Fuck. At least today wasn't a total loss. We did hear from Taylor and she was able to pull some stuff off the microchip. It was, uh, an address and some blueprints to a museum so we're gonna go there tomorrow. And there was also... there was also some kind of code on there. Um, she wasn't able to make sense of it though. It was... binary code or some- something. (''A noise is heard in the background'') Maybe you guys can help... with that. Phew. I better... get back in there. I'm on clean up duty.

(''Jonas walks to the bathroom and opens the door. The handcuffs are open on both the shower rod and on the tub and Lucy is gone''.)

'''Jonas:''' Fuck! (''Runs out of the room'')

==Notes==
* The code, a cryptogram, translates to "sixteen times a new age loses lite/til we steal it for eternal nite/stars will fall in his time/as we Elders see greatest find." In a stanza, it more neatly reads:
::"Sixteen times, a new age loses light,
::Until we steal it for eternal night.
::Stars will fall in his time,
::As we, Elders, see greatest find."
* The forum discussions, including the solution, can be found [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=18068 here] and [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=18067 here].
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Jonas in a Bathtub

2008-07-18T00:50:18Z

Bobby G:

<noinclude>[[Image:0401-JonasBeerBath.jpg|thumb]]
Jonas likes to take baths. Seriously.
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|-
| 125 || [[Sleepover]] || Jonas hops in the tub to get away from Bree.
|-
| 162 || [[Psychological Torture]] || Jonas wakes up in the tub.
|-
| 179 || [[Quitting The Sauce]] || Jonas tries to remember being captured.
|-
| 401 || [[Beer Bath]] || Jonas takes a bath in beer and sorrows.
|-
| 466 || [[Raise The Roof]] || Jonas hops in the tub with Charlie for a chat.
|-
| 523 || [[Handcuffed]] || Jonas gets in a bath to interrogate Lucy.
|}

[[Category:Notable details]]
</noinclude><includeonly>*This is the {{{1}}} out of five times we've seen [[Jonas in a Bathtub|Jonas in a bathtub]] so far.</includeonly>

Gavin

2008-07-16T22:37:23Z

Bobby G:

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'''Gavin Taylore''' is a father of none from Manchester who currently is living in East London. He was the CEO of his software company which he started with his friend, [[Tariq]]. Gavin is also the ex-boyfriend of [[Charlie]]. His favorite drink is Red Bull and favorite sport is Football.

==Background==
===Enter DeepGoat===

Gavin is first introduced in [[Spiders]] when Tariq and him visit their new office space, his [[Aunt Joan's house|Aunt Joan's garage]]. Gavin says he's just quit his job and would like to start his new company there. [[Joan|Aunt Joan]] demands rent, so Tariq and Gavin pay in Gardening. A couple of days later, while the two are getting ready to go to the bank to ask for a loan, Tariq gets a call from his girlfriend, [[Kate]]. Gavin mentions he gets bad vibes off her.

Gavin tags along with Tariq to [[Charlie's party]]. Gavin spots [[Steve]] hugging Kate and alerts Tariq. He distracts Steve by doing the funky chicken, giving Tariq time to go through his stuff. Tariq ends up leaving while Gavin and Charlie party afterwards.

[[Image:KM0034-GavinTheHero.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin helps crazy Kate.]]
Days later, [[Birdwatching|Charlie asks Gavin for help]], worried about Kate. Gavin looks up information left on Tariq's computer about Kate being [[Trait Positive]]. After hearing about the Hymn of One, Charlie says they have to go find Kate and warn her. As Charlie tries to open the door, however, it is locked. Gavin says he forgot the dead bolt, it locks automatically at 6pm. Cell phones wont work either. Gavin send the message through the blog to Tariq and anyone listening, to go to Carnaby Street at 10am. While locked in the room, Gavin and Charlie grow closer, posting several videos over the time they're trapped. Gavin admits he's [[Office Romance|attracted to Charlie]].

Tariq [[Hero For Hire|confronts Gavin]] about the loan he took out, although nothing more about it is said in the blogs.

In [[The Prisoner]], Steve suggested that Gavin was a member of the Hymn of One. Gavin later admitted that he had attended a Hymn of One meeting, but found it really boring. Tariq later urges Gavin to use that to [[Gavin Steps Up|convince Steve]] not to report Kate to the Police after what she did. After, Gavin complains that Tariq and him should be worried more about the business, not Kate and her creepy friends. Tariq convinces him to continue to help.

Gavin goes to [[Dr. William Griffin]]'s house to ask if anyone knew what happened or if they knew anything about Kate. He runs into Dudley and later notices he's the cop from the day the Doctor died.

Gavin, Tariq and Charlie go to see [[Disturbia]] but Gavin gets kicked out for having a camera which he refuses to give up. He sat outside, waiting for the movie to end.

===Charlie and The Software===
In [[False Alarm]], Charlie confirms that she and Gavin slept together. She was also worried that she might have been pregnant, but she wasn't. After seeing the video, Gavin posts a [[...|short video]] saying he'll call Charlie. Later, [[Girls Are From Venus|Charlie posts]] parts of what Gavin calls a "very private tape", making "Keep Your Socks On" into his catchphrase. [[Keep Your Socks On!|He asks girls at a bar]] what they think, saying Charlie's attempt to embarrass him has backfired.

[[Image:KM0060-Gavin-Charlie-Giggling.jpg|thumb|right|Gavin saves Charlie from herself.]]
Gavin later sees a [[Desperately Seeking Shia|video]] Charlie posted about going to see Shia LaBeouf. He [[Somebody Do Something|decides]] to go stop her and tell her how he feels. Although, [[Saved By LaBeouf|when he gets to the bar]] she's at, Charlie's nowhere to be found. He grabs a drink and sits at the counter. He looks around and finally finds Charlie sitting alone at a table. He walks up to her, Gavin gives his coat to Charlie and the two sit together at a table. Gavin admits he likes Charlie and Charlie replies she likes him too.


[[Birthday Surprise|Later]], after things with Kate died down, Gavin and Tariq renewed their efforts to work on their software. In order to help them, they hired on [[Lee]], a work experience trainee volunteer. Unfortunately, Gavin seemed to find humor in [[Subservient Lee|degrading]] Lee, who was working for nothing. As retaliation, Lee stole the only copy of their software in [[The Leak]] and posted videos that would lead both Gavin in Tariq on a [[KateModern puzzles#Lee's Treasure Hunt|treasure hunt]] around London to attempt to recover it. This strained their friendship, however, and the two now refuse to speak to each other.

Unfortunately, since [[Terrence]] showed up and they [[Seven Dials: 5pm - 23rd November 2007|lost their software to the Order]], Gavin has shown signs of [[Sinking in|violence]] and mental anguish (including [[The Trains|split personality]] and paranoia). Gavin's mental state caused his relationship with Charlie to slowly deteriorate. She finally left him after learning that Gavin had formed a plan with Terrence to retrieve the [[Project Orwell|software]] from [[the Order]]. Gavin attempted to [[Down Under|follow her]] to Australia, but is stopped by Terrence and Tariq, who force him to go through with the plan, which ends poorly, with Gavin being [[Resolution|arrested]].

===New Opportunities===
Following Kate's murder, it is discovered that the Order pulled strings to have Gavin released from prison. He has gone to live with his Aunt Joan, while working in a pub cleaning dishes. In [[Group Hug]], Gavin returns as [[JustIncredible.TV]]'s new technical manager, a position which Tariq had been positioning himself for.

During Charlie's [[Stiff Upper Lip|pitch]] on how to advertise for the channel, Gavin managed to convince Justin that he should tag along. The following week, Charlie, Gavin, [[Julia]], and Lee went on a road trip to tour University communities to promote JustIncredible.TV. At first Gavin upset everyone by constantly bickering with Lee. However, after [[Nuts and Needles|saving Lee's life]], he was more accepted in the group, and gave up his vendetta against Lee for stealing his software.

[[Image:KM200-GavinSmiling.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin at his new job at JTV.]]
Upon returning to work, Gavin begins noticing [[Justin]]'s strange behavior, and discovers that he has put his office [[WC ONE|inside a bathroom]]. Gavin also finds that Justin is [[Credible?|re-receiving packages]] that he had sent out, and [[MERRY-GO-ROUND|concludes]] that he is committing {{wikipedia|Missing_trader_fraud|carousel fraud}}, though he cites that Justin is not very good at it, as no one has been paid in two months. During the company [[The Easter Party|Easter party]], Gavin starts a walk-out, demanding that Justin pay his employees. Later, when the [[JTV staff|staff]] [[Bust Incredible|go to demand]] pay again, they find that Justin has split, and the group proceeds to steal the equipment as compensation.

At the same time, Gavin [[Brighton Beach|tries to get re-involved]] with Charlie, who is [[Half the Week Away|immersed in finding out more]] about the missing girls. He [[Precious Blood: 11AM|accompanies her]] to [[Lauren]]'s apartment, where they find Steve and Terry putting her in the trunk of their car. After Charlie races off after them and leaves him behind, Gavin goes to the pub to drink his worries away. When Charlie [[Precious Blood: 3PM|seeks his help]] a few hours later, she finds him doing work online and drinking only [[Orange Slurpee|Orange]] Juice. While there, they run into Terry, who tells them that Steve is Kate's killer and that he's going to kill Lauren, and [[Precious Blood: 4PM|leads them]] to an abandoned bunker. However, Charlie and Gavin soon discover that Terrence is actually the murderer, and had begun working for the Order to avoid going to prison after the assault on the Hymn of One building on New Years Day. Gavin and Charlie escape, and [[Precious Blood: 6PM|run into]] Steve and Lauren, who had overpowered Terrence and made a break for it. Gavin and Lauren remain outside while Steve and Charlie go inside to look for Terrence.

When Charlie is [[Precious Blood: 8PM|abducted by Terrence]], community members begin leaving [[Voicemail|voicemails]] on Gavin's answering machine, telling him to go to his Aunt Joan's house, where they are being held. When he doesn't answer, Lee sets out to find him, and [[Precious Blood: 9PM|he finds Gavin]] (and Lauren) in an ally blaming Steve for what happened to Charlie. Lee informs them where they are being held, and they [[Precious Blood: 10PM|go to Aunt Joan's house]]. There, they find that Terrence has doused the house in gasoline, but is chased away by the Watcher and Shadow before he can set in on fire.

Afterwards, Gavin confronts Charlie about her [[Precious Blood: 7PM|romantic interactions]] with Steve earlier in the night, and he orders her to leave.

===Like a Fox===
After an almost month-long hiatus, Gavin [[Connect With This!|made a blog]] mocking Steve's new cult, [[The Celestial Network]]. Days later, he runs into Lee and [[Meryl]] at the unemployment office, where he recommends Lee for a job in stealing software and bankrupting a business. It has been implied that he has been living with his Aunt Joan while looking for a job. Lee invites him to attend a [[The Dinner Party|dinner party]] at [[the new flat]] in order to try to reconnect with Charlie. However, Steve attends as well, and the two almost come to blows, but the fight ends when they find out that Charlie is stuck at work.

[[Image:KM268-Gavcrazy-cropped.jpg|thumb|right|Gavin finally cracks.]]
When Julia invites Gavin to her wedding, Gavin attempts to [[Sex, Drugs and on the Dole|convince Charlie]] to go with him so they can laugh at how ridiculous the entire situation is. Charlie rejects his advances at first, but throws herself at him during Julia's [[The Hen Night|hen night]] after having an emotional breakdown and a bit to drink. However, at [[Julia & Rupert|Julia's wedding]], Steve attempts to hijack the event, leading Charlie to have to talk him down outside. Gavin, upset, begins drinking the vodka he had brought as a wedding gift and begins making inappropriate remarks towards Julia, followed by an emotional outburst where he knocks over the gift table. Rupert demands that he leave, and Lee and Lauren follow him out to try to console him.

After the ordeal, Gavin [[I Know|posts a blog]] saying that he believes that all the drama that has been happening is being caused by Kate, whom he believes is still alive and is sitting back at watching everyone come into conflict with one another. However, he comes across more insane than convincing. Lee and Lauren begin worrying about his mental health, and accompanies him as he accuses various people (including [[Straight To The Top|Michelle Clore]] and [[The Naked Truth|Steve]], as well as [[Joanna Shields]], the president of Bebo). He [[Back on Brick Lane|contacts Charlie]] and asks her to meet him at Kate's grave, and attempts to convince her that Kate is still alive. He tackles a woman he believes is Kate, and becomes extremely distressed when he finds out it isn't her. Afterward, Charlie implies that Gavin has sought professional help.

===Escape from Grinstead===
Gavin [[The Last Work: 12PM|spent the next few weeks]] in the psychiatric facility "St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution", where he was cut off from the outside world and had no access to his Bebo account. During one of his therapy sessions on the 28th of June, it was revealed that Gavin had given the impression of a successful rehabilitation, and the doctors were comfortable enough to sit close to him and ask him to perform simple tasks. However, the doctors become increasingly concerned with Gavin's negative self-image, and they attempt to get him to express what he is feeling on paper. Gavin stabs the doctors with the pen he is given and beats them unconscious, and takes the camera taping the session with him as he leaves.

[[Image:KM300-GavinOHsht.jpg|thumb|left|Gavin makes a grave mistake.]]
During his exit, he encounters a figure underneath a blanket called Patient #12 whom he believes to be Kate, and frees "her" only to discover that it was actually Terrence. Gavin runs away from him and encounters another patient, [[Joseph]], who seems to think that Gavin is playing a game and desperately wants to join. Gavin reluctantly allows him to follow him, and the two escape from Grinstead after Gavin finds information on Kate in the facility. Once outside, Gavin attempts to [[The Last Work: 3PM|ditch]] Joseph, at one point pretending to throw a stick for him to fetch. However, Gavin informs Joseph of the information he has taken, leading Joseph to reveal himself as an agent of the Order and demands that Gavin hand over the folder.

Before either one can act, Terrence arrives, and throws Gavin onto the ground. When Terrence begins to attack Joseph, Gavin pulls himself together and flees. Terrence pursues him, but is stopped when Gavin boards a train. Afterwards, Gavin [[The Last Work: 8PM|contacted]] Charlie and gave her an address to meet him at. Charlie, along with Lauren and Lee, arrive and discover that Gavin is at Kate's childhood home, and learn that Kate had spent the early part of her childhood at Grinstead undergoing experiments. [[Hazel Strathcarron|Kate's mother]] arrives and explains how she worked as a doctor there and decided to rescue Kate. As they head back to London, Charlie gets a call from Kate's mom asking them to come back so she can show them something. However, Gavin [[The Last Work: 10PM|refuses]] to go along, citing that he has wasted too much of his life obsessing over the mysteries surrounding Kate. He and Lee stay behind while Charlie and Lauren go back, only to find her dead and Terrence waiting for them. When Terrence begins circling the house with the girls inside, Gavin and Lee arrive and try to overpower Terrence, but ultimately fail. However, they provide a distraction so that Charlie and Lauren can leave the house. Terrence [[The Last Work: 11PM|pursues them]] into the woods, only to get stabbed by Charlie with a sword Kate's mom had displayed over her mantle. Gavin and Lee arrive and the four of them watch as Terrence begins bleeding to death, and leave him to die.

They drive back to London and pick up Sophie at her office. While there, they get a phone call from Steve telling them to meet him outside, where he has set up a makeshift birthday party for Lauren. On the way there, Gavin [[The Last Work: 12AM|jokingly asks]] if Kate will be attending, but he comes across as serious and only manages to get his sanity re-questioned. One they arrive, Charlie and Steve lovingly embrace, and Gavin tells the camera that he'll be there for Charlie when Steve leaves her for another cult. Gavin and the others decide that their lives might be less complicated if they didn't post them online, and break the camera.

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Gavin|link]] for theories about Gavin.
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Adak Island

2008-07-16T22:35:07Z

Bobby G: spelling

'''Adak Island, Alaska''' is one of the locations listed on [[Lucy]]'s computer. During the time surrounding the death of [[Kate|Kate Strathcarron]] in London, [[Michelle Clore]], an [[Elder]] of the Order who is associated with Kate, claimed to be away on an artistic retreat on the island.

In Early 2008, [[Patricia|Patricia Neilson]], a member of [[The FTO]] ventured to Adak Island to investigate reports that the Order's headquarters is stationed there. After going to the island, she wasn't heard from for over three months. In June, her body was discovered on the island, with no conclusive cause of death. However, it can be assumed that the Order played a part in her downfall.

{{LucysComputer}}

Theories About Characters

2008-07-16T22:28:05Z

Bobby G: /* Lucy */

This page is used to post your theories about [[Lonelygirl15 characters|characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

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==Notable Characters==
===Bree===
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*[[Bree]] is not dead, but will not be returning.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is hiding in the mountains near Sedona.
*Bree will return sometime in season 3.
*The vlogs in which Bree completed [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the ceremony]] were altered by [[Daniel]] and Jonas to look like Bree died. Daniel and Jonas really did rescue Bree from [[the Order]], and the ceremony.
*Bree is a clone of [[Gina]].
*Bree is alive, and now working with [[Tachyon]].
*Bree is not dead, but being held by The Order alive in case any other elder needs her blood.
*Bree and Jonas were actually supposed to be partner Elders in the Order. Bree was killed for a reason other than being trait positive.
*Bree is alive in Russian Siberia with her [[Bree's biological parents|biological parents]].
*Bree will appear in the series finale.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Bree may be [[Kate]]/[[Emma]]'s biological sister. <small>(Bree has only one sister, [[Gina]].)</small>
*Bree gave her self up to the Order, because she was dying of the the same disease as Gina. <small>(Gina was never dying from a disease.)</small>
*Bree will appear in the [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]] of [[lonelygirl15|lg15]].
*Bree is hiding in the Bunker with Emma, and [[TAAG]] will find her there.
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===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for [[the Order]].
*Daniel's paranoia will get him killed.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Daniel was in love with [[Bree]].
*Daniel will fall in love with [[Sarah]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Daniel will die in the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]].
</td><tr></table>

===Emma===
*She will be used by [[the Order]] to breed other [[trait positive]] girls.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the ceremony]].
*She was abducted as a baby. ([[Dr. Griffin]] explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies)
*She will do the ceremony and die like [[Bree]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td
width="50%">'''Proven'''
*She was adopted by [[The Whartons]] around age 9. <small>(Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15)</small>
*She is hiding in the Bunker.
*She is the girl that [[Lucy]] picked up the doll for in "[[Shop of Horrors!!!]]".
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially [[the Elders]].
*Emma is dying of the same illness that [[Gina]] has. <small>(While Jonas confirms that her illness is the same as Gina's, we find out that Gina is not dead in [[KIDNAPPED!]])</small>
*[[Emma]] is Bree's biological sister.
*She is dead, just like [[Dr. Calvin Hart|Dr. Hart]].
*She took [[Purple Monkey]] and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*Following the events in [[I Love You All]], Emma will no longer be a main character.
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===Gina===
*Gina is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Gina was brainwashed to forget most of what she went through in the [[Hart Study]].
*Gina was drugged after she was abducted in ''[[Bree's Mom]]''.
*Dr Hart was trying to fake Gina's death by the video "[[Get Your Freak On]]", to protect her. This was also the purpose of the videos of Gina looking very sick.
*Gina is not really dead and was kidnapped by the Order to do the cermony if they can un-compromise her blood (or for some other purpose)
*Gina is not dead; she is in Russian Siberia with her biological parents and Bree.
*Will appear in the Series Finale.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Gina will become a main character in season 3.
*Gina is Bree's biological sister.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The girl in ''[[KIDNAPPED!]]'' is not [[Gina]].
*Gina is Cassie because she knew Bree's mother and had been to the Avery's house before. <small>(She revealed in her chat that she is not Cassie.)</small>
*Gina knows [[Cassie]] but doesn't know that she knew [[Bree]]. <small>(Cassie was abandoned in Season One.)</small>
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===Jennie===
*[[Jennie]] is a member of the [[Hymn of One]].
*Jennie is a plant by [[the Order]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Jennie is manipulating [[Gina]], to send Gina back to the Order.
*Jennie will get wrapped up in the campaign, because it is the work she loves to do.
*Jennie will end up killing Edward Salinas.
</td><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Jennie will break up with Jonas.
</td><tr></table>

===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become brainwashed by [[the Order]].
*Jonas will fall in love with [[Jennie]].
*Jonas does not trust [[TAAG]] and will do things on his own.
*Jonas will accidently shoot himself with one of his guns one day (and no ladies, not the ones on his arms).
*Jonas is supposed to be an Elder, like he was bred to be. He will become an elder in the series finale.
*Jonas was supposed to be partner Elders with Bree.
*In Jonas chest a microchip is implanted that holds the key to annihilating the Order.
*Jonas was kidnapped by the Order because they knew about the chip, and want it. Either that, or they want to brainwash him into becoming an Elder, to keep him from reestablishing the resistance.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Jonas was killed by [[Virgil]].
*Jonas will die in the [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]].
*Jonas will find [[Bree]] when he is in London.
*Jonas will get killed in London.
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===LaRezisto===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[LaRezisto]] is working against [[TAAG]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of [[Daniel]]'s house. He was responsible for [[Deep Throat]] and for [[Alex]]'s betrayal of [[the Order]]. When [[Bree]] returned to the [[Hymn Of One]] unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls.
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world.
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===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] did not have knowledge of the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony]], and was therefore unable to answer [[Bree]]'s questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help [[TAAG]].
*Many Lucys exist, possibly as an attempt to keep watch over all the girls, and if one should go into another Lucy's area, the girl will feel comfortable, thinking that Lucy is their Lucy.
*Lucy is somehow related to [[Kate]].
*Lucy is the true leader/head of the [[Hymn of One]] and [[the Order]].
*After the deaths of the [[Rogue Elder]] and [[William Porter]], Lucy has been upgraded to [[Elder]].
*Lucy is [[Lord Carruthers]]' shadow.
*Lucy will become an Elder in the season 3 finale
*It is possible that because Lucy is always shown to have sunglasses on, even when she is alone in her apartment, she keeps them on because she suffers extreme paranoia and is constantly on edge about being watched by TAAG.
*Lucy is still alive.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Lucy]] is [[OpAphid]] or working for them. <small>(The characters [[Tachyon]]/[[OpAphid]]/[[Brother]] cannot legally be used by The Creators)</small>
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===Mallory===
*[[Mallory]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*[[Mallory]] is dead
*Mallory is [[trait positive]].
*Mallory is using the film school to distract [[Daniel]] from fighting the Order.
*Mallory, angry and hurt after Daniel broke up with her, went to give info to the Order.
*Mallory will no longer appear on the show.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Mallory is having some sort of relationship with [[Mr. Banks]]/[[Professor DelMundo]]. <small>(In the video "[[Hot for Teacher]]", Daniel saw that Mallory had kissed Professor DelMundo .)</small>
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls. <small>(She has seen the videos, but continues to not want Daniel to go & fight)</small>
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of [[Sarah]].
*Mallory will die in the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] [[Season Two Finale]].
</td><tr></table>

===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill [[Jonas]] as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.
*All members of the Order will accept Jonas as head of the Order in the Series Finale. Jonas will then dissolve it.
<table><tr valign="top">
<td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Lord Carruthers]] is the head Elder of the Order. <small>(It was confirmed by Carl.)</small>
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The Order performed [[Bree]]'s [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]] incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
</td><tr></table>

====The Shadows====
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Shadows]] and [[Watchers]] are against each other within the [[Hymn of One|HoO]]. <small>(i.e. [[LaRezisto]] vs. Watcher)</small>
</td><tr></table>

====The Watchers====
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting [[TAAG|BDJ]], not trying to kidnap them.
</td><tr></table>

===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Sarah is not related to [[Taylor]] by blood.
*Sarah texted the [[Watchers]] in the Season 1 Finale.
*She is [[trait positive]] and [[Gross Guy]] is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in [[Emma]].
*Sarah loves [[Jonas]].
*Sarah and Taylor's home town, Zavalla, Texas is, or was, a major Order stronghold.
*Sarah and Taylor are in the Order, as is everybody else in Zavalla, Texas.
*Sarah is an Elder, or at least very high ranking in the Order.
*Sara will become an elder in the series finale.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Sarah and [[Daniel]] will get back together.
*Sarah loves Daniel.
*Sarah and Carl will get back together.
*Sarah will become brainwashed by the Order
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant. <small>(This could be theoretically true, but the baby could not have been carried to term as Sarah never shows any signs of pregnancy, so it is most likely not''.)</small>
*She is pregnant, and the crash diet of [[Lullaby Project]] food will cause major problems. <small>(Speculation toward Sarah's pregnancy are from her time with Gross Guy; if she had gotten pregnant at the time, hiding her pregnancy would be very difficult several months afterward.)</small>
*Sarah is lying about running off with Carl.
*Sarah will kill Carl.
*Sarah is pregnant as a result of "hooking up" with Carl in Mexico.
*Sarah is Lord Carruthers.<small>(When Lord Carruthers [[Lonelygirl15 Season Finale 10 of 12 – 5 pm|was receiving Bree's blood]] during the Ceremony, Sarah was with TAAG.)</small>

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===Spencer Gilman===
*Spencer is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]]: save the other [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony girls]].
*Spencer and [[Taylor]] will eventually end up together.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Spencer will no longer appear on [[Lonelygirl15]]. <small>(Tentative, since this can only be disproven.)</small>
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative.
*Spencer will see [[KateModern]] and attempt to break back into the [[Wyman Foundation]] and steal [[Kate]]'s blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*[[Spencer]] is [[Bree]]'s brother.
*Spencer will appear in KateModern.
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===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down [[the Order]].
*She will become more active once her school year ends.
*She will have a significant role in Season 3.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*She is a [[Watcher]].
*Taylor will return to California to help [[Jonas]] and [[Daniel]] get Sarah back.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract [[Spencer Gilman]]. <small>(Unlikely. She wasn't attempting to distract him during Season 1, and he's no longer around.)</small>
*Taylor is dead.
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===Virgil===
*[[Virgil]] is Emma's biological father.
*Virgil was the one who shot the shadow when BDJ were kidnapped in Las Vegas
*Virgil was the one who was watching over [[Daniel]] after he read the email left by [[Bree]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Virgil is not returning.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Virgil has killed [[Jonas]]. <small>(Jonas made a full recovery from [[KIDNAPPED!]].)</small>
</td><tr></table>

==Minor Characters==
===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is still with [[the Order]] and gave [[Daniel]] a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*Alex and [[Lucy]] are biological sisters.
*She will appear in the season 3 finale of lg15
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Will appear in the season 2 finale of lg15
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===Bree's Parents===
====Bree's Biological Parents====
*They are still in Siberia.
*They will appear in the third season of lg15.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for [[the Resistance]] <small>(Bree was sold, not stolen)</small>
</td><tr></table>

====Bree's Adoptive Parents====
'''Drew Avery'''
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of [[the Order]]. He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*He died because he tried to make [[Bree]] trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]).
</td><tr></table>

'''Elizabeth Avery'''
*[[Bree's mother]] married [[Drew Avery]] as a command from [[The Order]].
*Elizabeth loved Bree and did not adopt her merely because she was [[trait positive]].
*Elizabeth did not want Bree to complete the ceremony- that's why she adopted her to prevent her from being used by [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Elizabeth made up the story about [[Backseat Shocker|Emma's Ceremony]] to lure her out of hiding so she can conduct a rogue Ceremony herself.
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===Carl===
*Carl is pretending to love Sarah as a plot to hold her hostage, and get Gina back into the Order's possession.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Carl never left [[the Order]]. <small>(Carl was never in the Order.)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of [[the Order]]. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is [[Tachyon]], and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-[[OpAphid]], through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.
*Gemma is [[trait positive]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Gemma is [[Charlie]]'s sister [[Rose (character)|Rose]]. That could be why she has a rose in some of her videos. <small>(Rose has a daughter and is Australian. She's also older than Charlie, unlike Gemma.)</small>
*Will appear in the 2 season finale
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===Isaac Gilman===
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing [[Drew Avery|Bree's dad]] was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*He is [[Dr. Griffin|the specialist]] who faked his death in [[KateModern]].
*He was [[Bree]]'s real father.
</td><tr></table>

===Jonas's Parents===
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.
*Jonas's parents killed Elizabeth Avery when Elizabeth went after Emma for the Ceremony.
*They implanted a microchip that has information that can destroy the Order inside Jonas chest.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*They will be found by [[Alex]] and help [[the Resistance]]. <small>(They were not found by Alex and have not helped the resistance)</small>
*Jonas's mom is the nurse that helped perform [[Bree]]'s [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. <small>(This was Lucy.)</small>
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===Jules===
*[[Jules]] is dead.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of [[the Resistance]].
*The Mistress knew [[Bree]].
*The Mistress is a member of [[the Order]] and killed [[Isaac Gilman]].
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The Mistress is the girl in [[Who's that girl?]]
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
</td><tr></table>

===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] is [[trait positive]].
*Nikki is working for the Order, helping to keep tabs on TAAG.
*Nikki is a Watcher.
*Nikki was captured by Salinas at the fundraiser
'''Disproven'''
* Nikki does not have P-Monkey; he is actually under Jonas's bed in a box, according to Carl in [[Bullet to the Head]]

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[TAAG|BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*The "rock star" was also a guest of [[Charlie]]'s birthday party.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Beth]] is the mole in [[Deep Throat]]
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Bree]]'s real parents were at the party.
</td><tr></table>

===Rebecca===
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on [[Bree]] for [[OpAphid]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Rebecca]] is the girl in the photograph with [[Lucy]] seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]]. <small>(It was Alex)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Lord Carruthers===
*Lord Carruthers is a mole, or spy, actually working against the Order, and not for it.
*Lord Carruthers is Aleister Crowley.

=KateModern=
==Notable Characters==
===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of [[the Order]].
*Charlie is [[Tariq]]'s ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is Gemma's sister.
*Charlie is working for the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] or, possibly, the Order. This is the reason why she is trying to convince Lauren to not fight the Order.
*Charlie is a [[Watcher]].
*Charlie is the older female in the drawing Sarah posted in [[Playing With Fire]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Charlie was once pregnant. <small>(Charlie confirms that [[Kim]] is her daughter.)</small>
*Charlie will move in with [[Gavin]] after she got evicted.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Charlie's [[Rose (character)|sister]] and [[Kim|niece]] are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much. <small>(Charlie has gone back to Australia to see them)</small>
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. <small>(Charlie ran away to London after having Kim)</small>
*Charlie is [[Gemma]]'s ex-flatmate <small>(Gemma's flat was actually a Southern Californian apartment, she likely never went to a university)</small>
*Charlie will come to the US to help with [[Steve]] and possibly the [[TAAG]].
*Charlie is being forced to help the Order.
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===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are half brothers.
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.
*[[Dudley]] is alive.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Dudley]] (if alive) killed [[Kate]]. <small>([[Terrence]] killed Kate.)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] is a member of [[the Order]].
*Gavin is a member of [[the Resistance]].
*Gavin had a past involvement with [[Kate]].
*Gavin has not blogged a lot because he's been "on assignment" against the Order.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Gavin and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.
*Gavin will see the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] videos and ask [[Jonas]] for a loan.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate. <small>([[Steve]] kidnapped Kate in [[Coming Home for Xmas]].)</small>
*Gavin and [[Tariq]] will be arrested for making the spy software. <small>(After being arrested on another charge, no mention of the software was brought by the authorities.)</small>
*Gavin Killed Kate
*Gavin's theories about Kate being alive are true. <small>(This was proven false in the last live chat.)</small>
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===Julia===
*[[Julia]] is in [[The Order]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Julia is the traitor.
*Julia is pregnant.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Julia will die at her Eternal Unity Bond ceremony.
*Julia will find out that she is [[trait positive]].
</td><tr></table>

===Kate (Genevieve)===
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*The people that wiped [[The Whartons|Jonas's parents]]' memories did the same to Kate.
*Michelle Clore is Kate's biological sister or mother.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from [[the Order]].
*Reappears with the LIST <small>(Sort of. She reappears shortly before the list is found again, and then reappears again later with it in tow.)</small>
*Kate is the girl that was killed shortly before the start of [[KateModern]] Season Two.
*Kate was being primed for [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]] by [[Michelle Clore]].
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution. <small>(Half right; she was in [[KateModern minor locations#Grinstead|St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution]], but the institution was not solely for psychiatric purposes.)</small>
*Kate was killed, but not by the Order. <small>(Terrence was working for the Order when he killed her, but he wasn't supposed to kill her.)</small>
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister. <small>(Bree only had one sister, [[Gina]].)</small>
*Kate really is going to America to study art with Michelle Clore.
*Kate and Bree are twins. <small>(Kate was 23 while, at the time of Bree's death, Bree was only 17)</small>
*Kate is dead and her spirit is haunting Gavin. <small>(Appears in [[Coming Home for Xmas]].)</small>
*Kate will die, Bree style, in the KM season finale. <small>(She didn't even appear in it.)</small>
*Kate will join the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] and [[Gavin]], [[Tariq]], and [[Charlie]] will try to save her.
*Kate will appear in the season finale of lonelygirl15.
*Kate faked her death to have more freedom to find the [[trait positive]] girls on the List.
*Kate killed [[Dr. Griffin]]. <small>([[Michelle Clore's Shadow]] killed Dr. Griffin.)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Lauren===
*[[Spencer]] is supplying the medicine to stabilize Lauren's blood.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Lauren]]'s sister is [[Kate]].
*Lauren will come to the US to find [[Steve]] and possibly help the [[TAAG]].
*Lauren killed [[Michelle Clore]]. <small>([[Jeffrey]] did.)</small>
*Lauren will become [[Lee]]'s girlfriend.
*Lauren is the one who [[I like Pigeons!|lent her iPod to Kate]]. <small>(Lauren never knew Kate.)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Lee===
*[[Lee]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Lee knows where [[Kate]] (Genevieve) was during her time missing in Season One.
*Lee is a full-fledged or apprentice [[Watcher]], and his assignment is to keep an eye on Julia and Charlie. Note that he always says he's just on "work experience".
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Lee will move in with Charlie.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Lee will sell the [[Project Orwell|spy software]] to the Order. <small>(He intended to return the software at the end of the puzzles but the Order stole it)</small>
*Lee is trying to lead [[Tariq]], [[Gavin]], and [[Charlie]] to Kate (Genevieve).
*Lee is dead. <small>(He reappeared in [[Internet Celebrity Revealed]])</small>
*Lee killed Kate.
*Lee will recover the list.
*Lee will be killed by the Order.
*Lee will become Lauren's boyfriend.
</td><tr></table>

===Michelle Clore===
*[[Michelle Clore|She]] is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Michelle Clore was preparing [[Kate]] for the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. <small>(Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")</small>
*Michelle Clore is the [[Rogue Elder]].
*Going to be killed in the [[KateModern|KM]] season finale.
</td><tr></table>

===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of [[the Order]].
*Steve is a Watcher.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*He will use his inside knowledge to help [[Kate]] and her friends.
*Steve didn't kill Kate at the end season 1.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Steve is helping Kate hide, so she can help the girls on the list.
*Steve only pretended to leave the [[Hymn of One]].
</td><tr></table>

===Tariq===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Tariq's date will have some connection to [[Hymn of One|HoO]]/[[The Order]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Tariq killed [[Kate]].
*Tariq is not really in India, he is helping Kate find the girls from the List.
*Tariq will be arrested for making the spy software.
*Tariq will appear at Julia's wedding.
</td><tr></table>

===Terrence===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Terrence]] is in [[the Order]]. <small>(former member, as of [[Precious Blood]].)</small>
*He is a [[Shadow]]. <small>(Apprentice Shadow, really.)</small>
*He killed [[Kate]].
*Terrence is not the same person as [[The FTO|X]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Terrence was killed following the events in [[Resolution]].
*"Terry" is pretending to be a member of the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] to get [[Project Orwell|his software]] back.
*Terrence killed [[Michelle Clore]] <small>([[Jeffrey]] did.)</small>
</td><tr></table>

===Patricia===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Patricia]] is dead. <small>(According to the final chat, she died on assignment at Adak Island.)</small>
</td></tr></table>
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Patricia]] killed [[Kate]]. <small>([[Terrence]] did)</small>
</td></tr></table>

===Dr. William Griffin===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*He is the [[Rogue Elder]] [[LaRezisto]] works for.
</td><tr></table>

==Minor Characters==
===Aunt Joan===
*[[Joan|Aunt Joan]] is related to [[Jonas]].
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Kim===
*[[Kim]] is [[trait positive]].
*[[Charlie]] hid Kim with [[Rose]] to protect her from [[the Order]], and [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]].
*Kim is one of the children in the drawing Sarah posted in [[Playing With Fire]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Kim is Charlie's daughter.
</td><tr></table>

===Rose===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Rose (character)|Rose]] is [[Gemma]].
</td><tr></table>

===Kyle===
*[[Kyle]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Kyle is related to [[Rupert Van Helden]].

===Rupert Van Helden===
*[[Rupert Van Helden]] is related to [[Kyle]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Rupert is an [[Elder]]. <small>(He was positioning to become one.)</small>
*Rupert only wants to be with [[Julia]] because she is [[trait positive]]. <small>(Julia is not trait positive.)</small>
*Rupert is really [[Lord Carruthers]].
*[[Rupert]] will quit the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rupert will have an affair with [[Alice]], [[Sophie]]'s roommate.
</td><tr></table>

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with [[Nikki Bower]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Sophie will have a major role in the second season.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Sophie will find out that she is [[trait positive]].
</td><tr></table>

=See Also=
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-07-08T21:26:33Z

Bobby G:

== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

Someone
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up!?

== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks.<br>
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome'''<br>Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this:<br>
{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<Br><br>I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.)<br><Br>
::Here:<br>
::{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<br><br>
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :)<br>
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]]<br><br>
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

== Steve on LG15? ==
should we add his pic to the LG15 page considering he's coming to the U.S?
:No more than we should have added Jonas to the KM portal because he was in the UK for a week. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== REMOVING SARAH? ==
Since Sarah has left TAAG, possibly temporarily, mabye we should remove her from the main character list and put her with the recurring characters?
Please Reply and tell me What you thnk. -Nigell
:I agree actually, but I'd give it until Monday. If she doesn't show up in Monday's video (or given an indication that she will be seen again soon) I support the move --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:35, 2 May 2008 (EST)
::I'd give it a little more time than that. Firstly, they've been mentioning Sarah almost CONSTANTLY lately, and secondly she's only been gone for a month. Give it another week, at the very least. Unlike when Tariq left KM, there was (and still is) no indication that she's left on a jet plane and plans to be gone for the better part of forever. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
::: I definitely think that we should wait longer, Sarah's been a main character for well over a year and she's been gone for only a month, if that. Besides, with all these threats and whatnot I foresee Carl trying to kill her to become an Elder and her fleeing back to TAAG. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

So wait, let me get this straight...my perfectly fine, cross-browser compatible design with one girl opposing the icons was violently reverted, but you went live with ''this''?
[[Image:Redesign failure season3.png|300px]]

Way to go, redesign heros. *rolleyes* Hope you're happy with your new and improved character row.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:58, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Oh, snap! Um, probably should have made sure to check browser compatibility, but I just assumed it was okay due to the lack of objections. I really hate to do this, but I imagine we have a lot of IE users, so I will revert the redesign again until we can get this resolved. Sigh.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:07, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::The problem doesn't appear in 7.0. I'm going to have to revert my browser edition just to see what the fuck happened. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:02, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:::As far as I can tell, this is 100% fixed now. (It works for certain in Safari, Firefox, and IE 6.0. 7.0 should work, since 6.0 does.) Should be good to go, Jon. (Oh, I made the main code change in the page code, so the includes should be good as-is.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:01, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thanks so much, Shi. I'll go ahead and re-add it. *crosses fingers*--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:12, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Well, well, it's about time we got this going..looks great everyone. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 14:14, 12 May 2008 (CDT)

Why is there no picture of Emma for main characters? {{unsigned|70.158.76.179}}
:She's not a main character. If she comes back and stays for a while, she'll be put back. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:31, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
I suppose I understand that... but then it brings the point of Bree not being a TRUE main character anymore. Technically, she is...although, she's not at all anymore if you are going by the definition aforementioned above. Same goes for Kate on KM.

==Main Character Merit==
Basically, I'd like to propose a guideline for when characters get their pictures in gray on the bar if they leave (i.e. Bree, Kate). What I propose is this: Their picture be added in gray on the main page if they've been killed off and if they:
:A) are the namesake of the series (i.e. Bree is lonelygirl15 and KateModern is named for Kate)
:B) The character has had 100 appearances in the series, not counting recap videos (as that stands the only characters that have achieved this are LG: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah, and KM: Charlie (though as KM is ending soon, I suppose it would remain irrelevant).
I designed this so if, heaven forbid, Daniel gets shot by a watcher or Jonas sufficates to death underneath a pile of fangirls, they will be recognized for the large role they have had on the series. Thoughts? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 19 May 2008 (EST)
:I don't know if I agree. Firstly, grayed boxes signify dead people. That's just the way it goes. As to the B suggestion, though, things could get kind of crazy if DB ''and'' Jonas die and Gina and Jennie are left to fight the Order alone. We'd have three permanent additions to the character list, as well as however many really are currently main characters. Mind, this is just personal preference, but if Bree or Kate weren't the namesakes of either series, I'd probably be fighting to have them be removed. I love DB, but if he dies and isn't constantly referenced, he really shouldn't be on the main page. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:36, 19 May 2008 (CDT)

== Order of Characters ==

Earlier I reverted someone putting Sarah in front of Jennie because they didn't discuss or get anyone else's opinion on it, but I want to start a discussion on this. Why is Jennie before Sarah? And Gina is even before Jonas? I propose that Characters should be put in order of how long they have been there except of course Bree at the end in black and white. What does everyone else think? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 22:26, 2 June 2008 (CDT)
:I really like the "normal" way of ordering the characters, but with these new icons I got, they looked really bad in that order, so I went with this, as it seemed the most aesthetically pleasing. I think for now it's the way to go, at least in my mind... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:28, 6 June 2008 (CDT)
Er, we need a B&W picture to go next to Bree now for Gina... ;_; - [[User:67.142.130.49|67.142.130.49]] 21:23, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

== Gina on the character row ==

What are peoples' thoughts about keeping Gina on the character row? Should she get a black and white photo like Bree? Should we wait for official confirmation of her death before removing her? Other questions? Answers? :)--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:17, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
:Personally, I don't really think it makes sense to have a B/W picture of Gina on the front page. If we included greyed out pictures for all former characters (I mean... Gemma died... so it's not like Gina's the only dead main character) the row would be huge! It makes sense to me to leave her up for a bit while they figure out what's going on with her death, but I think long-term, the only BW picture should be Bree, who is the show's namesake and all... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:58, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
::Keep on the character row as a B&W until such a time as the TAAG inevitably stops actively mourning her... maybe a little longer if that time is too short, who knows. Gemma wasn't really MAIN character material like Gina was, and no other main characters have died besides Bree and Kate before. - [[User:67.142.130.42|67.142.130.42]] 03:04, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::I agree with Zoey. Keep her up with a color picture until her death is 100% officially confirmed. I don't really like the idea of having b/w pictures for every dead character. Bree makes sense, as she is the title character, but we don't want a lot of clutter. But we definately shouldn't jump the gun on taking her off the row. You never know what could happen. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:40, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::Maybe keep the picture in color but replace her eyes with xs. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:45, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::Or just put a giant red bullseye on her forehead. LOL. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:47, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:[[No More Fear]] confirmed it. Gina is dead. I took her off the character row, as that seems to be the consensus. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:11, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I agree with the fact that the latest video has confirmed it. Gina was a main character - Gemma wasn't. She was apart of TAAG - Gemma wasn't. I think that anyone that was on the character's row to begin with should be greyed out when deceased. As far as I know, Gemma was never on the character row. She was never really that important. Gina, however, became apart of the LG15 family and it's only fair to include her. In case the final decision is made to keep her greyed, here's the image - I put it up but then took it down after the message was sent to me: 0485-Gina1-cropped-icon-grey.jpg - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::Just for the record, Gemma was absolutely on the character row when she was still on the show (which wasn't really a character row so much as just character boxes back then, but whatever). Also, she couldn't have been a part of TAAG, as the term didn't even exist back then. So... yeah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:33, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::No need to get snippy. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to be rude to me. Gina was apart of a big plot twist (Bree had a sister) and was a VERY important part of the story. Gemma... not so much. So... yeah... - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::::Sorry, I did not intend for my post to be rude and I apologize if it came off that way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:58, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I think putting former characters on the character row is a horrible idea. You start to get into the whole "who's important enough, who isn't" question and you get unsightly clutter on what is a first impression of the Wiki to many newbies. Bree needs to be on the row in some form, as she is the title character, but other, less important characters like Gina and Gemma (who WAS definitely row worthy when she was a regular; she was just as important to the story then as Gina is today) don't need to be immediately accessed. That's what the larger "[[Lonelygirl15 characters]]" page is for. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:37, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::Yeah, I agree...but look what Gina has been reduced to. She was part of TAAG, and now she has a box that has less text than "[[Drew Avery]]" on the [[Lonelygirl15 characters]] page. That's not fair to Crystal at all.
:::That is beyond true! Crystal did such a good job acting and had such a well liked character - SOME recognition is deserved even if her character is deceased. I just don't like how this is turning into a "I'm high and mighty so my point is more valid" debate rather than a logical one. - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::::I agree that some recognition is needed (the memorial page is a great start), but I don't think it's appropriate to have the recognition on the character row. BTW, I don't see anybody acting "high and mighty". It's been a pretty healthy, calm debate so far. The level of discourse on LGPedia should be a model for other wikis. It seems everyone here treats each other with respect. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 09:25, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

::I propose that we add a "memorial" page, and make it featured content or something. I know it's not very professional in terms of a wiki...but we have pages on "[[orange]]" and how it is such an evil color, so I'm not too worried about professionalism. The page could feature dead characters like Gina and Virgil and have pictures and blurbs about them. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 15:53, 9 June 2008 (EST)
:::Something along those lines wouldn't be a bad idea at all. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 15:24, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::We could call it [[In Loving Memory]]! :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:05, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::::That is a fabulous idea! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:29, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

she should be on character row as bree was kept. sure she's not the main main character, but definitely a huge part of the plot from which most of the plot wouldn't be where it is if it wasnt' for her story... just gray out her pic. simple.

==Video Screencap Redirects==
Any thoughts on possibly redirecting the images that appear next to the four new videos to the video's article? It just seems like it would be simpler to navigate for new people. I've always thought that EVERY image should be redirected to the video it came from, but I suppose that would be tougher to navigate for editors. Anyways, if the character images/buttons send you to the character pages, the video images should act as buttons as well. Keep it consistant, you know? It could just become something that you do when you add a new image to a video, make the image redirect to the video's article. Doesn't seem to be a huge addition to the "adding new video" ritual. Any ideas/shoot downs/suggestions? [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 22:46, 2 July 2008 (CDT)
:I really dislike this idea. It is such a pain to have to avoid redirects when wanting to view a larger image, and oftentimes, videos are used for more than one purpose, and redirecting them could confused viewers who are viewing the image from a different context. I vote no on this one, personally. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:42, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
::You're right. I didn't consider the confusion of clicking on that image when it's used in another article or something. Dumb idea. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 18:07, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
:::Not "dumb," it's a totally valid idea! I just don't really think it works for right now. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:36, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

==Character Row Post Aug 1==
If you haven't already checked it out, I'd like to first point your attention to the newly updated [[Portal:KateModern|KateModern Portal]]. Basically, it's been slightly revamped to overview the entire show for new viewers, instead of to cover active content like the LG15 portal currently is. Once lonelygirl15 ends on Aug 1st, we'll update its portal to use the same format. Part of that is, of course, the character row. Instead of featuring the current main characters, like we have now, the portal will need to feature the main characters throughout time. Since there are a lot of them, and we'll need to cut down, I wanted to open the discussion to who exactly we'll want to include. I know it's a bit early, but since I figure there may be a fair amount of debate on this topic, I wanted to start it early. Anyways, I've typed through my entire logic on this, so people can see where I'm coming from.

The entire list of main characters throughout time: Bree, Daniel, Gemma, Jonas, OpAphid, Tachyon, Alex, Sarah, Taylor, Spencer, Emma, Mallory, Jennie, Gina.

The number of videos each of these characters has been in as of 7/4/08 are...

*Bree - 153
*Daniel - 273
*Gemma - 21
*Jonas - 242
*OpAphid - 33
*Tachyon - 12
*Alex - 15
*Sarah - 134
*Taylor - 47
*Spencer - 24
*Emma - 62
*Mallory - 22
*Jennie - 76
*Gina - 61

Based on this information (BDJS each having three digits worth of videos), I personally think that the characters who should be included on the character row once the show ends are: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah. I'd very much like to know everyones thoughts on the matter, so please comment! Thanks! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:25, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
:EDIT: Based on the fact that six characters is the most aesthetically pleasing on the character row, I'm going to go ahead and say we add the next two as well and make it: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, and Jennie. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:16, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

::Yikes. I'd like to start off by saying that I love the new KM portal, and I liked the fact that Kate was back in full color.

::Now, I have a question. How are you defining main characters? I, for one, would have considered Dr. Hart a more "important" character than, say, Alex. If someone asked me to list the main characters throughout the series without looking at the number of episodes they were in, I would say, Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Taylor, Sarah, Emma, Jennie, and Gina. I honestly don't think we can leave Gina off at all. She was supposed to be the focus of the third season...at least that's what we were led to believe. As for Taylor...she was important for a good part of the first season. If one were to just watch the first season, I guarantee that Taylor would be listed as a main character. Can someone do a quick mock-up of what the page would look like with 8 pictures on the character row? (The entire portal page, not just the row, if that's not too much of a trouble.) --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 22:42, 5 July 2008 (EST)
:::EDIT: Actually, I realized that when I looked at the KM portal, Tariq and Lauren were still in the character row, and I liked the feel of having eight characters. In my opinion, eight is the most aesthetically pleasing, especially when the portal will now be meant to show the series over the years. It makes sense for there to be a lot of main characters when we're talking about a series with multiple seasons. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 17:46, 6 July 2008 (EST)

[[Image:KM-Portal-Eight-Characters.png|right|400px]]
::::The main issue with eight characters is that it overlaps on 1024x768, which is the resolution a lot of people use. To me, this just looks tacky. If there was a way to make this look better on smaller resolutions, I think having eight characters is a viable option.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 17:44, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:::::Fair enough, I hadn't considered resolution. I'm just brainstorming here, but what about extending the image behind the character row vertically and having a 4x2 character row as opposed to a 6x1? I can't make a realistic mock-up, but textually:

::::::::Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah <br>
::::::::Taylor Emma Jennie Gina

:::::Eh, I dunno if that would look nice at all, actually. Just a thought. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 20:03, 6 July 2008 (EST)

::::::I tried two rows [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:KateModern/New/Character_Row&oldid=134968 here], but I can't figure out exactly how to extend the image to make it fit [[Portal:KateModern/New|here]]. But even then, I think it would take up too much space vertically and you'd lose the overall look of the portal. I wonder if we could make the images smaller to make them fit? Hmm, but they might be too small after that. I'll see what I can do.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:34, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:::::::Okay, there are smaller images [[Portal:KateModern/New|here]]. The image behind would have to be changed to work with the new character image sizes, but this gives a good idea at least. Do people think it's too small? Other suggestions?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:43, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

[[Image:KM-Portal-Small-Character-Images.png|right|400px]]
::::::::This is what it looks like on 1024x768, for those interested.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:58, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:I don't care for the smaller images at all. It looks weird height-wise.
:I think it's important that we don't forget that no matter who ends up on the character row, every single character is still featured on the heavily-advertised characters page, and no matter which characters end up on the row, no one will be forgotten or not included on the 'pedia. The object here is not to cover who the main characters in a season were, but who were the main characters throughout the entire show, which is why I went with video count, as it is the most objective way for us to determine who was most active throughout time. Even though Taylor was unquestionably a main character in season one, she was not as heavily featured throughout the show as a whole as the other six characters on the row, and that's where and why I think we should draw the line. The same goes for Gina and season 3. And like I said, no matter who ends up on the row, no one will be forgotten or ignored in the grand scheme of things. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:08, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

::{{quote|Zoey 21:08, 6 July 2008|I think it's important that we don't forget that no matter who ends up on the character row, every single character is still featured on the heavily-advertised characters page, and no matter which characters end up on the row, no one will be forgotten or not included on the 'pedia.}}

::{{quote|Zoey 18:46, 31 March 2008|The whole point of putting the icons on the front page like that is to give people an easy way to familiarize themselves with the characters. People won't just automatically click the Characters link. That's like saying we only need to put the stills from each new video, because people will click on them knowing they can get to the video transcript pages based on the fact that the hand icon is there... and if not, they'll be able to click the "List of Videos" link on the sidebar, which takes them to the list of videos anyways, so what's the point of listing the videos on the portal page anyways? The point is ease of access, which is why the character icons are there in the first place as well.}}

::{{quote|Zoey 20:50, 31 March 2008|And I completely disagree that a link to Daniel's page on Characters is the same as the link to Daniel's page on the front page.}}

::...gotta love how these things turn out.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:45, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

::::Yeah, I can see your intended point ("zing!!!!?") and the fallacy of it simultaneously. As long as the Homeless Watcher goes into the character row I am good. Not everyone can fit on the character row, so the characters page link (which ''is'' prominent, yet will ''not'' be automatically clicked by all) will have to suffice for the rest. Apples aren't oranges, but the show is ending and some final organization will need to be done. Oh, and I would include Gina in the character row if possible. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:33, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
:::::I'm a fan of the eight character thing myself. My thoughts on who should be up is Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Taylor, Emma, Jennie, Gina. Even though I'm a big fan of Spencer, I feel like these eight had the biggest parts of all the plots. Much more than Alex, Sonia, or Carl. And while Dr. Hart did change the face of LG15, he was still only part of the show for a very, very brief time. Just my views! --[[User:iampenguin|LimePenguin]] 19:55, 7 July 2008

::::::Well Bree, Daniel & Jonas definetely need to be on the reel. Sarah & Taylor should also be included for the parts they played in the latter half of series 1, even though Taylor is no longer on the show she is referenced at times. I think that including Gina & Emma is a must as well since they are both trait postivie females even though Gina's blood was of no use she was still trait positive. Finally keep Jennie she will be one of the characters to appear in the finale and in my opinon those who were there in the beginning and those who were there in the end should be there.--[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 10:35, 8 July 2008 (CDT)

:::::::I'm not a fan of the current KateModern character row because it excludes Lauren and Tariq, but if we were to apply that principle here the only character would be Daniel. I think it would be best to go with the six character row of Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, and Jennie, though, because that would look best and those are probably the most significant characters. [[User:Bobby G|Bobby G]] 16:26, 8 July 2008 (CDT)

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Bobby G: /* Character Row Post Aug 1 */

== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

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== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks.<br>
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome'''<br>Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this:<br>
{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<Br><br>I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.)<br><Br>
::Here:<br>
::{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<br><br>
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :)<br>
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]]<br><br>
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

== Steve on LG15? ==
should we add his pic to the LG15 page considering he's coming to the U.S?
:No more than we should have added Jonas to the KM portal because he was in the UK for a week. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== REMOVING SARAH? ==
Since Sarah has left TAAG, possibly temporarily, mabye we should remove her from the main character list and put her with the recurring characters?
Please Reply and tell me What you thnk. -Nigell
:I agree actually, but I'd give it until Monday. If she doesn't show up in Monday's video (or given an indication that she will be seen again soon) I support the move --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:35, 2 May 2008 (EST)
::I'd give it a little more time than that. Firstly, they've been mentioning Sarah almost CONSTANTLY lately, and secondly she's only been gone for a month. Give it another week, at the very least. Unlike when Tariq left KM, there was (and still is) no indication that she's left on a jet plane and plans to be gone for the better part of forever. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
::: I definitely think that we should wait longer, Sarah's been a main character for well over a year and she's been gone for only a month, if that. Besides, with all these threats and whatnot I foresee Carl trying to kill her to become an Elder and her fleeing back to TAAG. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

So wait, let me get this straight...my perfectly fine, cross-browser compatible design with one girl opposing the icons was violently reverted, but you went live with ''this''?
[[Image:Redesign failure season3.png|300px]]

Way to go, redesign heros. *rolleyes* Hope you're happy with your new and improved character row.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:58, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Oh, snap! Um, probably should have made sure to check browser compatibility, but I just assumed it was okay due to the lack of objections. I really hate to do this, but I imagine we have a lot of IE users, so I will revert the redesign again until we can get this resolved. Sigh.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:07, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::The problem doesn't appear in 7.0. I'm going to have to revert my browser edition just to see what the fuck happened. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:02, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:::As far as I can tell, this is 100% fixed now. (It works for certain in Safari, Firefox, and IE 6.0. 7.0 should work, since 6.0 does.) Should be good to go, Jon. (Oh, I made the main code change in the page code, so the includes should be good as-is.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:01, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thanks so much, Shi. I'll go ahead and re-add it. *crosses fingers*--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:12, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Well, well, it's about time we got this going..looks great everyone. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 14:14, 12 May 2008 (CDT)

Why is there no picture of Emma for main characters? {{unsigned|70.158.76.179}}
:She's not a main character. If she comes back and stays for a while, she'll be put back. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:31, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
I suppose I understand that... but then it brings the point of Bree not being a TRUE main character anymore. Technically, she is...although, she's not at all anymore if you are going by the definition aforementioned above. Same goes for Kate on KM.

==Main Character Merit==
Basically, I'd like to propose a guideline for when characters get their pictures in gray on the bar if they leave (i.e. Bree, Kate). What I propose is this: Their picture be added in gray on the main page if they've been killed off and if they:
:A) are the namesake of the series (i.e. Bree is lonelygirl15 and KateModern is named for Kate)
:B) The character has had 100 appearances in the series, not counting recap videos (as that stands the only characters that have achieved this are LG: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah, and KM: Charlie (though as KM is ending soon, I suppose it would remain irrelevant).
I designed this so if, heaven forbid, Daniel gets shot by a watcher or Jonas sufficates to death underneath a pile of fangirls, they will be recognized for the large role they have had on the series. Thoughts? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 19 May 2008 (EST)
:I don't know if I agree. Firstly, grayed boxes signify dead people. That's just the way it goes. As to the B suggestion, though, things could get kind of crazy if DB ''and'' Jonas die and Gina and Jennie are left to fight the Order alone. We'd have three permanent additions to the character list, as well as however many really are currently main characters. Mind, this is just personal preference, but if Bree or Kate weren't the namesakes of either series, I'd probably be fighting to have them be removed. I love DB, but if he dies and isn't constantly referenced, he really shouldn't be on the main page. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:36, 19 May 2008 (CDT)

== Order of Characters ==

Earlier I reverted someone putting Sarah in front of Jennie because they didn't discuss or get anyone else's opinion on it, but I want to start a discussion on this. Why is Jennie before Sarah? And Gina is even before Jonas? I propose that Characters should be put in order of how long they have been there except of course Bree at the end in black and white. What does everyone else think? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 22:26, 2 June 2008 (CDT)
:I really like the "normal" way of ordering the characters, but with these new icons I got, they looked really bad in that order, so I went with this, as it seemed the most aesthetically pleasing. I think for now it's the way to go, at least in my mind... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:28, 6 June 2008 (CDT)
Er, we need a B&W picture to go next to Bree now for Gina... ;_; - [[User:67.142.130.49|67.142.130.49]] 21:23, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

== Gina on the character row ==

What are peoples' thoughts about keeping Gina on the character row? Should she get a black and white photo like Bree? Should we wait for official confirmation of her death before removing her? Other questions? Answers? :)--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:17, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
:Personally, I don't really think it makes sense to have a B/W picture of Gina on the front page. If we included greyed out pictures for all former characters (I mean... Gemma died... so it's not like Gina's the only dead main character) the row would be huge! It makes sense to me to leave her up for a bit while they figure out what's going on with her death, but I think long-term, the only BW picture should be Bree, who is the show's namesake and all... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:58, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
::Keep on the character row as a B&W until such a time as the TAAG inevitably stops actively mourning her... maybe a little longer if that time is too short, who knows. Gemma wasn't really MAIN character material like Gina was, and no other main characters have died besides Bree and Kate before. - [[User:67.142.130.42|67.142.130.42]] 03:04, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::I agree with Zoey. Keep her up with a color picture until her death is 100% officially confirmed. I don't really like the idea of having b/w pictures for every dead character. Bree makes sense, as she is the title character, but we don't want a lot of clutter. But we definately shouldn't jump the gun on taking her off the row. You never know what could happen. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:40, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::Maybe keep the picture in color but replace her eyes with xs. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:45, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::Or just put a giant red bullseye on her forehead. LOL. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:47, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:[[No More Fear]] confirmed it. Gina is dead. I took her off the character row, as that seems to be the consensus. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:11, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I agree with the fact that the latest video has confirmed it. Gina was a main character - Gemma wasn't. She was apart of TAAG - Gemma wasn't. I think that anyone that was on the character's row to begin with should be greyed out when deceased. As far as I know, Gemma was never on the character row. She was never really that important. Gina, however, became apart of the LG15 family and it's only fair to include her. In case the final decision is made to keep her greyed, here's the image - I put it up but then took it down after the message was sent to me: 0485-Gina1-cropped-icon-grey.jpg - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::Just for the record, Gemma was absolutely on the character row when she was still on the show (which wasn't really a character row so much as just character boxes back then, but whatever). Also, she couldn't have been a part of TAAG, as the term didn't even exist back then. So... yeah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:33, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::No need to get snippy. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to be rude to me. Gina was apart of a big plot twist (Bree had a sister) and was a VERY important part of the story. Gemma... not so much. So... yeah... - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::::Sorry, I did not intend for my post to be rude and I apologize if it came off that way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:58, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I think putting former characters on the character row is a horrible idea. You start to get into the whole "who's important enough, who isn't" question and you get unsightly clutter on what is a first impression of the Wiki to many newbies. Bree needs to be on the row in some form, as she is the title character, but other, less important characters like Gina and Gemma (who WAS definitely row worthy when she was a regular; she was just as important to the story then as Gina is today) don't need to be immediately accessed. That's what the larger "[[Lonelygirl15 characters]]" page is for. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:37, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::Yeah, I agree...but look what Gina has been reduced to. She was part of TAAG, and now she has a box that has less text than "[[Drew Avery]]" on the [[Lonelygirl15 characters]] page. That's not fair to Crystal at all.
:::That is beyond true! Crystal did such a good job acting and had such a well liked character - SOME recognition is deserved even if her character is deceased. I just don't like how this is turning into a "I'm high and mighty so my point is more valid" debate rather than a logical one. - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::::I agree that some recognition is needed (the memorial page is a great start), but I don't think it's appropriate to have the recognition on the character row. BTW, I don't see anybody acting "high and mighty". It's been a pretty healthy, calm debate so far. The level of discourse on LGPedia should be a model for other wikis. It seems everyone here treats each other with respect. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 09:25, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

::I propose that we add a "memorial" page, and make it featured content or something. I know it's not very professional in terms of a wiki...but we have pages on "[[orange]]" and how it is such an evil color, so I'm not too worried about professionalism. The page could feature dead characters like Gina and Virgil and have pictures and blurbs about them. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 15:53, 9 June 2008 (EST)
:::Something along those lines wouldn't be a bad idea at all. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 15:24, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::We could call it [[In Loving Memory]]! :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:05, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::::That is a fabulous idea! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:29, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

she should be on character row as bree was kept. sure she's not the main main character, but definitely a huge part of the plot from which most of the plot wouldn't be where it is if it wasnt' for her story... just gray out her pic. simple.

==Video Screencap Redirects==
Any thoughts on possibly redirecting the images that appear next to the four new videos to the video's article? It just seems like it would be simpler to navigate for new people. I've always thought that EVERY image should be redirected to the video it came from, but I suppose that would be tougher to navigate for editors. Anyways, if the character images/buttons send you to the character pages, the video images should act as buttons as well. Keep it consistant, you know? It could just become something that you do when you add a new image to a video, make the image redirect to the video's article. Doesn't seem to be a huge addition to the "adding new video" ritual. Any ideas/shoot downs/suggestions? [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 22:46, 2 July 2008 (CDT)
:I really dislike this idea. It is such a pain to have to avoid redirects when wanting to view a larger image, and oftentimes, videos are used for more than one purpose, and redirecting them could confused viewers who are viewing the image from a different context. I vote no on this one, personally. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:42, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
::You're right. I didn't consider the confusion of clicking on that image when it's used in another article or something. Dumb idea. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 18:07, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
:::Not "dumb," it's a totally valid idea! I just don't really think it works for right now. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:36, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

==Character Row Post Aug 1==
If you haven't already checked it out, I'd like to first point your attention to the newly updated [[Portal:KateModern|KateModern Portal]]. Basically, it's been slightly revamped to overview the entire show for new viewers, instead of to cover active content like the LG15 portal currently is. Once lonelygirl15 ends on Aug 1st, we'll update its portal to use the same format. Part of that is, of course, the character row. Instead of featuring the current main characters, like we have now, the portal will need to feature the main characters throughout time. Since there are a lot of them, and we'll need to cut down, I wanted to open the discussion to who exactly we'll want to include. I know it's a bit early, but since I figure there may be a fair amount of debate on this topic, I wanted to start it early. Anyways, I've typed through my entire logic on this, so people can see where I'm coming from.

The entire list of main characters throughout time: Bree, Daniel, Gemma, Jonas, OpAphid, Tachyon, Alex, Sarah, Taylor, Spencer, Emma, Mallory, Jennie, Gina.

The number of videos each of these characters has been in as of 7/4/08 are...

*Bree - 153
*Daniel - 273
*Gemma - 21
*Jonas - 242
*OpAphid - 33
*Tachyon - 12
*Alex - 15
*Sarah - 134
*Taylor - 47
*Spencer - 24
*Emma - 62
*Mallory - 22
*Jennie - 76
*Gina - 61

Based on this information (BDJS each having three digits worth of videos), I personally think that the characters who should be included on the character row once the show ends are: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah. I'd very much like to know everyones thoughts on the matter, so please comment! Thanks! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:25, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
:EDIT: Based on the fact that six characters is the most aesthetically pleasing on the character row, I'm going to go ahead and say we add the next two as well and make it: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, and Jennie. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:16, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

::Yikes. I'd like to start off by saying that I love the new KM portal, and I liked the fact that Kate was back in full color.

::Now, I have a question. How are you defining main characters? I, for one, would have considered Dr. Hart a more "important" character than, say, Alex. If someone asked me to list the main characters throughout the series without looking at the number of episodes they were in, I would say, Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Taylor, Sarah, Emma, Jennie, and Gina. I honestly don't think we can leave Gina off at all. She was supposed to be the focus of the third season...at least that's what we were led to believe. As for Taylor...she was important for a good part of the first season. If one were to just watch the first season, I guarantee that Taylor would be listed as a main character. Can someone do a quick mock-up of what the page would look like with 8 pictures on the character row? (The entire portal page, not just the row, if that's not too much of a trouble.) --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 22:42, 5 July 2008 (EST)
:::EDIT: Actually, I realized that when I looked at the KM portal, Tariq and Lauren were still in the character row, and I liked the feel of having eight characters. In my opinion, eight is the most aesthetically pleasing, especially when the portal will now be meant to show the series over the years. It makes sense for there to be a lot of main characters when we're talking about a series with multiple seasons. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 17:46, 6 July 2008 (EST)

[[Image:KM-Portal-Eight-Characters.png|right|400px]]
::::The main issue with eight characters is that it overlaps on 1024x768, which is the resolution a lot of people use. To me, this just looks tacky. If there was a way to make this look better on smaller resolutions, I think having eight characters is a viable option.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 17:44, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:::::Fair enough, I hadn't considered resolution. I'm just brainstorming here, but what about extending the image behind the character row vertically and having a 4x2 character row as opposed to a 6x1? I can't make a realistic mock-up, but textually:

::::::::Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah <br>
::::::::Taylor Emma Jennie Gina

:::::Eh, I dunno if that would look nice at all, actually. Just a thought. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 20:03, 6 July 2008 (EST)

::::::I tried two rows [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Portal:KateModern/New/Character_Row&oldid=134968 here], but I can't figure out exactly how to extend the image to make it fit [[Portal:KateModern/New|here]]. But even then, I think it would take up too much space vertically and you'd lose the overall look of the portal. I wonder if we could make the images smaller to make them fit? Hmm, but they might be too small after that. I'll see what I can do.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:34, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:::::::Okay, there are smaller images [[Portal:KateModern/New|here]]. The image behind would have to be changed to work with the new character image sizes, but this gives a good idea at least. Do people think it's too small? Other suggestions?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:43, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

[[Image:KM-Portal-Small-Character-Images.png|right|400px]]
::::::::This is what it looks like on 1024x768, for those interested.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:58, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

:I don't care for the smaller images at all. It looks weird height-wise.
:I think it's important that we don't forget that no matter who ends up on the character row, every single character is still featured on the heavily-advertised characters page, and no matter which characters end up on the row, no one will be forgotten or not included on the 'pedia. The object here is not to cover who the main characters in a season were, but who were the main characters throughout the entire show, which is why I went with video count, as it is the most objective way for us to determine who was most active throughout time. Even though Taylor was unquestionably a main character in season one, she was not as heavily featured throughout the show as a whole as the other six characters on the row, and that's where and why I think we should draw the line. The same goes for Gina and season 3. And like I said, no matter who ends up on the row, no one will be forgotten or ignored in the grand scheme of things. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:08, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

::{{quote|Zoey 21:08, 6 July 2008|I think it's important that we don't forget that no matter who ends up on the character row, every single character is still featured on the heavily-advertised characters page, and no matter which characters end up on the row, no one will be forgotten or not included on the 'pedia.}}

::{{quote|Zoey 18:46, 31 March 2008|The whole point of putting the icons on the front page like that is to give people an easy way to familiarize themselves with the characters. People won't just automatically click the Characters link. That's like saying we only need to put the stills from each new video, because people will click on them knowing they can get to the video transcript pages based on the fact that the hand icon is there... and if not, they'll be able to click the "List of Videos" link on the sidebar, which takes them to the list of videos anyways, so what's the point of listing the videos on the portal page anyways? The point is ease of access, which is why the character icons are there in the first place as well.}}

::{{quote|Zoey 20:50, 31 March 2008|And I completely disagree that a link to Daniel's page on Characters is the same as the link to Daniel's page on the front page.}}

::...gotta love how these things turn out.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:45, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

::::Yeah, I can see your intended point ("zing!!!!?") and the fallacy of it simultaneously. As long as the Homeless Watcher goes into the character row I am good. Not everyone can fit on the character row, so the characters page link (which ''is'' prominent, yet will ''not'' be automatically clicked by all) will have to suffice for the rest. Apples aren't oranges, but the show is ending and some final organization will need to be done. Oh, and I would include Gina in the character row if possible. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:33, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
:::::I'm a fan of the eight character thing myself. My thoughts on who should be up is Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Taylor, Emma, Jennie, Gina. Even though I'm a big fan of Spencer, I feel like these eight had the biggest parts of all the plots. Much more than Alex, Sonia, or Carl. And while Dr. Hart did change the face of LG15, he was still only part of the show for a very, very brief time. Just my views! --[[User:iampenguin|LimePenguin]] 19:55, 7 July 2008

::::::Well Bree, Daniel & Jonas definetely need to be on the reel. Sarah & Taylor should also be included for the parts they played in the latter half of series 1, even though Taylor is no longer on the show she is referenced at times. I think that including Gina & Emma is a must as well since they are both trait postivie females even though Gina's blood was of no use she was still trait positive. Finally keep Jennie she will be one of the characters to appear in the finale and in my opinon those who were there in the beginning and those who were there in the end should be there.--[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 10:35, 8 July 2008 (CDT)

::::::I'm not a fan of the current KateModern character row because it excludes Lauren and Tariq, but if we were to apply that principle here the only character would be Daniel. I think it would be best to go with the six character row of Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, and Jennie, though, because that would look best and those are probably the most significant characters. [[User:Bobby G|Bobby G]] 16:26, 8 July 2008 (CDT)

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[[St Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#4A2B66;">LU</span>]]

KateModern minor locations

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{{see also|Lonelygirl15 minor locations}}
==The Roof==
{{Locations
| name = The Roof
| image = 0007-WelcomeRoof.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Welcome to the roof]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
'''The Roof''' is a place where [[Tariq]] likes to spend his free time. He spends his entire [[Welcome to the roof|first blog]] introducing viewers to it.

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==The Unfamiliar Graveyard==
{{Locations
| name = The Unfamiliar Graveyard
| image = 0009-KateSunglasses.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Awful Dream]] - {{Init|Kate}}
}}
'''The Unfamiliar Graveyard''' is the place [[Kate]] reenacts her dream from [[Awful Dream]]. Not much is known about the graveyard.

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==Upton Park==
{{Locations
| name = Upton Park
| image = West Ham United.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Walk of Shame]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
The Boleyn Ground at '''Upton Park''' is {{wikipedia|West_Ham_United_F.C.|West Ham United's}} home ground, the football team that Tariq supports. He goes there in [[Walk of Shame]] to reminisce about when he went to watch matches there.

<gallery>
Image:KM0023-HammersStatue.jpg|Up the 'ammers!
</gallery>
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==Sophie's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Sophie's flat
| image = KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Who Killed Kate?]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Golf Day Out]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Name the Traitor!]] - {{init|Sophie}}
}}
[[Sophie]] lives in '''her flat''' with her roommate Alice. The two of them occasionally blog from this location.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM277-Sophies bed.jpg|Sophie's bed
Image:0031-KM-Sophie.jpg|The computer room
Image:KM277-Lee outside Sophies flat.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>

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==Gavin's sister's house==
{{Locations
| name = Gavin's sister's house
| image = KM0039-GavinOnTheBed.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Explain yourself]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
After [[Steve]] [[The Prisoner|accused Gavin]] of having ties to the [[Hymn of One]], Gavin fled and went to stay at '''[[Gavin's sister|his sister's]] house'''.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0039-FrontDoor.jpg|The front door
Image:KM0039-BackDoor.jpg|The back door
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Fridge.jpg|The kitchen
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Staircase.jpg|The staircase
</gallery>
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==Pinchin Street==
{{Locations
| name = Pinchin Street
| image = KM0053KateTariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Girl Power]] - {{init|Charlie}}
* [[Charlie and the Seven Snorks]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
After decoding a [[Who Watches The Watcher?|secret message]] from [[Dudley]] and [[Dr. William Griffin]], [[Kate]], [[Charlie]] and [[Tariq]] headed off to '''Pinchin Street''' to meet up with Dudley and get some answers. Kate and Charlie got in the car with Dudley; however, Tariq was left behind.

===History===
"The Pinchin Street Murder", a term coined after a torso was found in similar condition to "The Whitehall Mystery" (though the hands were not severed), on September 10, 1889. The body was found under a railway arch in Pinchin Street, Whitechapel. Unconfirmed speculation of the time was that the body belonged to Lydia Hart, a prostitute who had disappeared. "The Whitehall Mystery" and "The Pinchin Street Murder" have often been suggested to be the works of a serial killer, for which the nicknames "Torso Killer" or "Torso Murderer" have been suggested. Whether Jack the Ripper and the "Torso Killer" were the same person or separate serial killers of uncertain connection to each other (but active in the same area) has long been debated by Ripperologists. This was the tenth of the Whitechapel murders. <ref>{{wikipedia|The_Pinchin_Street_Murder|Wikipedia article on The Pinchin Street Murder}}</ref>

===References===
<references/>

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==Regency Grand Hotel==
{{Locations
| name = Regency Grand Hotel
| image = KM0060-Gavin-Charlie-Giggling.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances = *[[Saved By LaBeouf]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''Regency Grand Hotel''' is the hotel that [[Charlie]] goes to in hopes of finding Shia LaBeouf. When she doesn't find him, she goes to the bar and avoids several men.

Shortly thereafter, Gavin shows up and officially asks Charlie to be his girlfriend.
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==Millennium Bridge==
{{Locations
| name = Millennium Bridge
| image = KM237-Millenium Bridge.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Why?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Kate Returns]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Where is She?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
The '''Millennium Bridge''' is a pedestrian-only bridge that crosses the Thames River. It is located between Southwark Bridge (downstream) and Blackfriars Bridge (upstream). Many characters have headed to this bridge to blog.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0091Kate.jpg|Kate on the bridge
Image:KM0237-Steve.jpg|Steve underneath the bridge
</gallery>
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==Tower of London==
{{Locations
| name = Tower of London
| image = KM0076Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Somewhere Only We Know]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
In [[Somewhere Only We Know]], Tariq stands in front of the '''Tower of London''' and talks about his feelings regarding his new relationship with [[Julia]] and his old one with [[Kate]]. The tower is located in central London, England, on the north bank of the River Thames. It is located within the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and is separated from the eastern edge of the City of London by the open space known as Tower Hill.

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==Tariq's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Tariq's flat
| image = KM0077Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Cooking With Tariq]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Commitment]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Smells like Xmas spirit]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Happy new year?]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
Tariq lives in his '''flat''' by himself (to our knowledge). In [[Cooking With Tariq]], he invited his girlfriend, [[Julia]] over and cooked dinner for her, before passing out on the sofa.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KMTariqApartmentKitchen.jpg|Kitchen
Image:KMTariqAptKitchenJulia.jpg|Washing up in kitchen
Image:KMTariqApartmentLR.jpg|Living Room
Image:KMTariqApartmentSofa.jpg|Tariq zonked out on sofa.
</gallery>

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==Janet's house==
{{Locations
|name = Janet's house
|image = Janetsdad.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*[[Janet]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
'''Janet's house''' is where [[Charlie]] [[Janet|goes]] to see the first girl on [[From Above|Charlie's list]] of [[trait positive]] girls that [[Dr. Griffin]] had operated on. However, [[Janet's dad]] sulkily answers the door and reveals that Janet died the previous week.
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==Internet cafés==
{{Locations
|name = Internet cafés
|image = KM169-Man on a Mission.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*'''Westminster'''
**[[Kate Positive]] - {{init|Kate}}
**[[Man on a Mission]] - {{init|Steve}}
*'''Near the new flat'''
**[[let my sister go]] - {{init|Lauren}}
**[[Bang Out of Order]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*'''Other'''
**[[Message to Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
When in need of a stable internet connection, many characters head to '''internet cafés''' to blog and upload their videos.
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==Melbourne==
{{Locations
| name = Melbourne
| image = KM0154-LunaPark.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[St. Kilda Beach]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
[[Charlie]] once resided in '''Melbourne, Australia'''. She returns to [[St. Kilda Beach]], near her childhood home, at the end of Season 1.

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==FTO Headquarters==
{{Locations
| name = FTO Headquarters
| image = KM186-RupertFTO.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Who Are The FTO?]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Answers]] - {{init|Terrence}}
}}
'''FTO Headquarters''' is [[Jeffrey]]'s bedroom. There, he and his friend [[Raymond]] published rumors that [[Finding the One]] author [[Rupert Van Helden]] took part in a bizarre, religious ritual that was responsible for [[Kate]]'s death.

The walls of FTO Headquarters are plastered with photos of Kate and the other various people in her life.

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==Lauren's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Lauren's flat
| image = KM0208-Laurenandsteve.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Lauren (video)|Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Doorstepping]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Batwoman]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 11AM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
[[Lauren]] lives in '''flat''' 57 B with her parents. Her sister used to live with them as well before she was kidnapped.

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==Julia's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Julia's flat
| image = KM218-JuliasFlat-hallway.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 12PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 1PM]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Mrs Van Helden?]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Hunting The Elder]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
After Lauren was [[Precious Blood: 11AM|kidnapped]] by [[Terrence]] and [[Steve]], Charlie headed to '''Julia's flat''' to enlist her help. While she was there, she caught Julia in bed with [[Rupert Van Helden]].

Above the couch is a painting of Batman and Robin.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-gate.jpg|The front gate
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-front door.jpg|The front door
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bedroom.jpg|Julia's bedroom
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bed.jpg|Julia's bed
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-couch.jpg|The red couch
</gallery>

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==Precious Blood bunker==
{{Locations
| name = Precious Blood bunker
| image = 220-SteveLauren.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 5PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 6PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
During the '''[[Precious Blood]]''' 12in12, [[Steve]] and [[Terrence]] kidnapped [[Lauren]] and took her to an '''underground bunker'''. [[Gavin]] and [[Charlie]] went to rescue her, only to find that Terrence had turned the tides and tied up Steve as well. Throughout the day, it was revealed that Terrence had been living in the bunker and had been bringing [[trait positive]] girls there to kill them.

The actual location of this bunker was revealed to be the {{wikipedia|Kelvedon_Hatch_Secret_Nuclear_Bunker|Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker}}. See photos [http://sub-ex.blogspot.com/2008/02/kelvedon-hatch-nuclear-bunker.html here.]

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:222-ScienceLab.jpg|The exterior
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry.jpg|The front entry
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry hallway.jpg|The first hallway as you enter
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway.jpg|A hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway2.jpg|Another hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-stairwell.jpg|A stairwell
Image:KM222-Bunker-vault.jpg|The large vault
Image:KM223-Bunker-AWDREY.jpg|A.W.D.R.E.Y.
Image:KM223-Bunker-computers.jpg|Old-fashioned computers
Image:KM223-Bunker-room with beds.jpg|A room with beds
Image:KM223-Bunker-room.jpg|The large room
Image:KM223-Bunker-room2.jpg|The large room (2)
Image:KM224-Bunker-RAYNET.jpg|RAYNET
Image:KM224-Bunker-beds.jpg|Beds
Image:KM224-Bunker-corpse.jpg|A bloody corpse
Image:KM224-Bunker-stairwell2.jpg|A second stairwell
</gallery>

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==Steve's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Steve's flat
| image = KM225-CharlieSteve.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 7PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 8PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 9PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
After escaping from [[Terrence]] in [[Precious Blood: 6PM]], [[Steve]] and [[Charlie]] headed back to '''Steve's flat''' to rest. While they were there, the two [[KateModern relationships#Charlie and Steve|hooked up]]. Steve's flat is located in {{wikipedia|Bethnal_Green|Bethnal Green}} on the {{wikipedia|East_End_of_London|East End}}.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM225-StevesFlat-outside.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>
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==College of Arms==
{{Locations
| name = College of Arms
| image = KM237-College of Arms.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
While looking for information to help him track down [[Lord Carruthers]], Steve headed to the '''College of Arms''', where he learned about a [[Mary Annette|marionette]] doll once owned by [[Aleister Crowley]] which had been visited by Carruthers.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM237-College of Arms entry.jpg|The entry arch
</gallery>
{{Clr}}

==Bill Cowan's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Bill Cowan's flat
| image = KM285-RupertShakesJulia.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Her Indoors]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 2PM]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 4PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
Before heading to [[Orivwa|Paris]], [[Julia]] and [[Rupert Van Helden]] stayed at her father, '''[[Bill Cowan]]'s flat''' in London. Bill was out of town during their stay, allowing Rupert the chance to get away with physically and emotionally abusing Julia.

This flat is actually KateModern writer [[Luke Hyams]]'s father's flat.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM284-MirrorMirror.jpg|Through the looking glass
</gallery>
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==Paris==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = Paris
| image = MinorLocationsParis.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Tour de France]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[Operation: Rescue Jools]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Morning After (KateModern)|The Morning After]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Radio Ga Ga]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Charlie is Innocent]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[You've Been Framed]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Pointing Fingers]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Whodunit?]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
Toward the end of the series, '''Paris''' served as a major backdrop. [[Anthony]], [[Charlie]], [[Lauren]], and [[Steve]] departed for Paris in order to save [[Julia]] from her [[Rupert Van Helden|abusive husband]]. Following Julia's rescue, Charlie was arrested and held in a local prison under suspicion of connection to the theft of [[Michelle Clore]]'s final piece of Artwork.

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==[[St Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution|Grinstead]]==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution
| image = KM300-GavWithPen.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Message from Grinstead]] - {{init|Grinstead}}
*[[The Last Work: 12PM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution''' is the psychiatric ward [[Gavin]] was moved to. He refers to it as "a place where [[the Order]] stores their problems."
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St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution

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{{Locations
| name = St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution
| image = KM300-GavWithPen.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Message from Grinstead]] - {{init|Grinstead}}
*[[The Last Work: 12PM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}

'''St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution''' is a psychiatric institution run by [[the Order]]. They use it to contain and experiment on people who pose a threat to the Order.

[[Kate]] was [[The Last Work: 8PM|committed to St Grinstead]] as a teenager because of her [[Awful Dream|nightmares]] and [[Coming Home for Xmas|delusions]]. Much later, [[Gavin]] was sent there after he began questioning the nature of [[Fictionality|the reality he lived in]], believing Kate was [[Back on Brick Lane|still alive]]. While he was there, Gavin became aware that the facility was run by the Order, and learnt of Patient #12, the most dangerous occupant of the Institution, who was kept under maximum security, covered up and chained and wired in place.

After [[The Last Work: 12PM|fighting]] his way out of the ward where he was kept, Gavin entered Patient #12's room. Gavin freed the patient, believing it to be Kate. However, the patient was actually [[Terrence]], who had presumably been sent there after being [[Love on the 436|beaten up]] by [[Michelle Clore's Shadow]]. Terrence broke free and escaped. Gavin also escaped, taking Kate's file with him.

St. Grinstead also housed [[Joseph]], an Order agent who posed as a patient in order to find out how much Gavin knew and return him to St. Grinstead.

{{KateModern location index}}
{{Bree's religion}}

[[Category:Covers for the Order]]

Back on Brick Lane

2008-07-08T20:46:23Z

Bobby G: correction

{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 268
| image = KM268-GavOnWoman.jpg
| caption = Let's have a cosmic gangbang!
| blogger = Steve
| date = 20080523
| url = {{KM|326}}
| forumid = 756
| length = 2:56
| description = Gavin needs help... Seriously.
| location = Cemetery, [[Brick Lane]]
| tags = {{tags|KateModern|LG15|lonelygirl15|Steve}}


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| setprod = Louis Figgis
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| pc = Claire Finbow
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| pr = Meryl Iona Edwards
| directors = Yusuf Pirhasan
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Neil Mossey
| story = Luke Hyams, Neil Mossey, and Lawrence Tallis
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| PreviousB = The Dinner Party
| NextB = Five's a Crowd
| NextC = KateModern S2 Week 19 Recap

| KM=yes
}}

==Transcript==

(''Charlie walks slowly to the cemetery gate, looking at her mobile. She the gate and walks inside. She looks nervously at Steve and wanders around''.)

'''Charlie:''' Gav? Gav! We've come to see you! Gav, are you here? (''Turns to the camera''.) We're worried about you and... It's just, I- I just hope I didn't upset you. (''Steve places his hand on Charlie's shoulder and the camera zooms out to both of them''.) We just want to- we just want to make- both of us just want to make sure you're OK.

(''Charlie turns and walks past the graves. Steve looks around as a crow caws overhead. Cut to Steve following Charlie through the cemetery'')

'''Charlie:''' We think- you know, maybe we could- we could get you some help. Like some- some proper treatment, someone to look after you properly.

(''Charlie frowns and turns away from the camera. Steve looks at the camera and follows Charlie through the cemetary as [[Jeremy]] films the headstones.'')

'''Gavin:''' Charlie!

(''Charlie stops and the camera zooms in to find Gavin crouched behind a bush. He comes out nervously and glares at the camera''.)

'''Gavin:''' Oh, and the knob-squad. I didn- I didn't want...

(''Charlie takes Gavin's hands.'')

'''Gavin:''' I don- I want this to be something for me and you. I didn't want them here s-screwing it up. I've got something really important to show you.

'''Charlie:''' I know. I know. It's Okay. I can tell it's important to you, but I can't go anywhere without these guys.

'''Gavin:''' Okay, well- Okay, we'll bring them along. You guys have probably got something you want to say to [[Kate]] as well.

(''Gavin hurries off, pulling Charlie along behind him. Steve looks confused and turns to the camera. Cut to Jeremy and Steve following after Gavin and Charlie. Cut to Gavin standing in an alleyway, checking his watch.'')

'''Gavin:''' Any time now. Any time now. (''Jennifer emerges on the other side of the street''.) There she is!

'''Gavin:''' Kate!

(''Gavin chases Jennifer and Charlie and Steve rush after him''.)

'''Charlie:''' Oh, my God!

'''Gavin:''' Kate! Oi! Come here!

'''Charlie:''' No, Gavin!

'''Gavin:''' Oi, come here!

'''Jennifer:''' Stop!

'''Charlie:''' Gavin! Gav-Gavin!

(''Charlie and Steve round the street corner to find Gavin has knocked Jennifer over.'')

'''Jennifer:''' Get off me! Get ''off'' me!

(''Jennifer knees Gavin in the groin. He rolls off, grunting with pain.'')

'''Gavin:''' Ow, ow ow!

(''Jennifer gets to her feet.'')

'''Charlie:''' Oh my God! I'm sorry! I'm so sorry! Really sorry! I'm so sorry!

'''Jennifer:''' Don't touch me! Who the hell do you think you are?

'''Gavin:''' Stop it!

'''Jennifer:''' Police! Police!

(''Jennifer runs off.'')

'''Charlie:''' Just a friend that d-

'''Gavin:''' Oh, I was sure that was Kate!

(''Charlie goes over to where Gavin is lying.'')

'''Gavin:''' I'm sure that was Kate! (''Begins crying''.) Oh, Kate! Oh, Genevieve!

'''Charlie:''' Come here.

(''Steve and Charlie help Gavin to his feet. Gavin coughs and splutters.'')

'''Charlie:''' Come here. All right, come on.

'''Gavin:''' I'm sure that was her, Charlie.

'''Charlie:''' Come on.

(''Charlie hugs Gavin as he sobs''.)

'''Gavin:''' I'm sure it was! Help me, Charlie!

'''Charlie:''' It's okay. We're gonna get you some help. It's okay!

'''Gavin:''' I don't know what's wrong!

'''Charlie:''' It's okay, it's okay.

(''Gavin sobs and hugs Charlie tighter. Steve looks awkwardly at the camera''.)

==Notes==

*After this video was released, Charlie said this on [[Bebo]]:
{{Quote|Charlie|I'm glad Gav's finally gonna get some help. We love you babe, get well soon.xxx}}

*It is evident that Gavin has not changed clothes, judging by the stains appearing on his shirt, most noticeably around his collar.

KateModern minor locations

2008-07-08T20:20:57Z

Bobby G: /* Grinstead */ being an order front, this should probably have it's own page.

{{see also|Lonelygirl15 minor locations}}
==The Roof==
{{Locations
| name = The Roof
| image = 0007-WelcomeRoof.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Welcome to the roof]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
'''The Roof''' is a place where [[Tariq]] likes to spend his free time. He spends his entire [[Welcome to the roof|first blog]] introducing viewers to it.

{{Clr}}

==The Unfamiliar Graveyard==
{{Locations
| name = The Unfamiliar Graveyard
| image = 0009-KateSunglasses.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Awful Dream]] - {{Init|Kate}}
}}
'''The Unfamiliar Graveyard''' is the place [[Kate]] reenacts her dream from [[Awful Dream]]. Not much is known about the graveyard.

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==Upton Park==
{{Locations
| name = Upton Park
| image = West Ham United.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Walk of Shame]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
The Boleyn Ground at '''Upton Park''' is {{wikipedia|West_Ham_United_F.C.|West Ham United's}} home ground, the football team that Tariq supports. He goes there in [[Walk of Shame]] to reminisce about when he went to watch matches there.

<gallery>
Image:KM0023-HammersStatue.jpg|Up the 'ammers!
</gallery>
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==Sophie's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Sophie's flat
| image = KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Who Killed Kate?]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Golf Day Out]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Name the Traitor!]] - {{init|Sophie}}
}}
[[Sophie]] lives in '''her flat''' with her roommate Alice. The two of them occasionally blog from this location.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM277-Sophies bed.jpg|Sophie's bed
Image:0031-KM-Sophie.jpg|The computer room
Image:KM277-Lee outside Sophies flat.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>

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==Gavin's sister's house==
{{Locations
| name = Gavin's sister's house
| image = KM0039-GavinOnTheBed.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Explain yourself]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
After [[Steve]] [[The Prisoner|accused Gavin]] of having ties to the [[Hymn of One]], Gavin fled and went to stay at '''[[Gavin's sister|his sister's]] house'''.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0039-FrontDoor.jpg|The front door
Image:KM0039-BackDoor.jpg|The back door
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Fridge.jpg|The kitchen
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Staircase.jpg|The staircase
</gallery>
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==Pinchin Street==
{{Locations
| name = Pinchin Street
| image = KM0053KateTariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Girl Power]] - {{init|Charlie}}
* [[Charlie and the Seven Snorks]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
After decoding a [[Who Watches The Watcher?|secret message]] from [[Dudley]] and [[Dr. William Griffin]], [[Kate]], [[Charlie]] and [[Tariq]] headed off to '''Pinchin Street''' to meet up with Dudley and get some answers. Kate and Charlie got in the car with Dudley; however, Tariq was left behind.

===History===
"The Pinchin Street Murder", a term coined after a torso was found in similar condition to "The Whitehall Mystery" (though the hands were not severed), on September 10, 1889. The body was found under a railway arch in Pinchin Street, Whitechapel. Unconfirmed speculation of the time was that the body belonged to Lydia Hart, a prostitute who had disappeared. "The Whitehall Mystery" and "The Pinchin Street Murder" have often been suggested to be the works of a serial killer, for which the nicknames "Torso Killer" or "Torso Murderer" have been suggested. Whether Jack the Ripper and the "Torso Killer" were the same person or separate serial killers of uncertain connection to each other (but active in the same area) has long been debated by Ripperologists. This was the tenth of the Whitechapel murders. <ref>{{wikipedia|The_Pinchin_Street_Murder|Wikipedia article on The Pinchin Street Murder}}</ref>

===References===
<references/>

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==Regency Grand Hotel==
{{Locations
| name = Regency Grand Hotel
| image = KM0060-Gavin-Charlie-Giggling.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances = *[[Saved By LaBeouf]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''Regency Grand Hotel''' is the hotel that [[Charlie]] goes to in hopes of finding Shia LaBeouf. When she doesn't find him, she goes to the bar and avoids several men.

Shortly thereafter, Gavin shows up and officially asks Charlie to be his girlfriend.
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==Millennium Bridge==
{{Locations
| name = Millennium Bridge
| image = KM237-Millenium Bridge.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Why?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Kate Returns]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Where is She?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
The '''Millennium Bridge''' is a pedestrian-only bridge that crosses the Thames River. It is located between Southwark Bridge (downstream) and Blackfriars Bridge (upstream). Many characters have headed to this bridge to blog.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0091Kate.jpg|Kate on the bridge
Image:KM0237-Steve.jpg|Steve underneath the bridge
</gallery>
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==Tower of London==
{{Locations
| name = Tower of London
| image = KM0076Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Somewhere Only We Know]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
In [[Somewhere Only We Know]], Tariq stands in front of the '''Tower of London''' and talks about his feelings regarding his new relationship with [[Julia]] and his old one with [[Kate]]. The tower is located in central London, England, on the north bank of the River Thames. It is located within the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and is separated from the eastern edge of the City of London by the open space known as Tower Hill.

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==Tariq's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Tariq's flat
| image = KM0077Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Cooking With Tariq]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Commitment]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Smells like Xmas spirit]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Happy new year?]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
Tariq lives in his '''flat''' by himself (to our knowledge). In [[Cooking With Tariq]], he invited his girlfriend, [[Julia]] over and cooked dinner for her, before passing out on the sofa.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KMTariqApartmentKitchen.jpg|Kitchen
Image:KMTariqAptKitchenJulia.jpg|Washing up in kitchen
Image:KMTariqApartmentLR.jpg|Living Room
Image:KMTariqApartmentSofa.jpg|Tariq zonked out on sofa.
</gallery>

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==Janet's house==
{{Locations
|name = Janet's house
|image = Janetsdad.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*[[Janet]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
'''Janet's house''' is where [[Charlie]] [[Janet|goes]] to see the first girl on [[From Above|Charlie's list]] of [[trait positive]] girls that [[Dr. Griffin]] had operated on. However, [[Janet's dad]] sulkily answers the door and reveals that Janet died the previous week.
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==Internet cafés==
{{Locations
|name = Internet cafés
|image = KM169-Man on a Mission.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*'''Westminster'''
**[[Kate Positive]] - {{init|Kate}}
**[[Man on a Mission]] - {{init|Steve}}
*'''Near the new flat'''
**[[let my sister go]] - {{init|Lauren}}
**[[Bang Out of Order]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*'''Other'''
**[[Message to Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
When in need of a stable internet connection, many characters head to '''internet cafés''' to blog and upload their videos.
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==Melbourne==
{{Locations
| name = Melbourne
| image = KM0154-LunaPark.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[St. Kilda Beach]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
[[Charlie]] once resided in '''Melbourne, Australia'''. She returns to [[St. Kilda Beach]], near her childhood home, at the end of Season 1.

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==FTO Headquarters==
{{Locations
| name = FTO Headquarters
| image = KM186-RupertFTO.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Who Are The FTO?]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Answers]] - {{init|Terrence}}
}}
'''FTO Headquarters''' is [[Jeffrey]]'s bedroom. There, he and his friend [[Raymond]] published rumors that [[Finding the One]] author [[Rupert Van Helden]] took part in a bizarre, religious ritual that was responsible for [[Kate]]'s death.

The walls of FTO Headquarters are plastered with photos of Kate and the other various people in her life.

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==Lauren's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Lauren's flat
| image = KM0208-Laurenandsteve.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Lauren (video)|Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Doorstepping]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Batwoman]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 11AM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
[[Lauren]] lives in '''flat''' 57 B with her parents. Her sister used to live with them as well before she was kidnapped.

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==Julia's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Julia's flat
| image = KM218-JuliasFlat-hallway.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 12PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 1PM]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Mrs Van Helden?]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Hunting The Elder]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
After Lauren was [[Precious Blood: 11AM|kidnapped]] by [[Terrence]] and [[Steve]], Charlie headed to '''Julia's flat''' to enlist her help. While she was there, she caught Julia in bed with [[Rupert Van Helden]].

Above the couch is a painting of Batman and Robin.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-gate.jpg|The front gate
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-front door.jpg|The front door
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bedroom.jpg|Julia's bedroom
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bed.jpg|Julia's bed
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-couch.jpg|The red couch
</gallery>

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==Precious Blood bunker==
{{Locations
| name = Precious Blood bunker
| image = 220-SteveLauren.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 5PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 6PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
During the '''[[Precious Blood]]''' 12in12, [[Steve]] and [[Terrence]] kidnapped [[Lauren]] and took her to an '''underground bunker'''. [[Gavin]] and [[Charlie]] went to rescue her, only to find that Terrence had turned the tides and tied up Steve as well. Throughout the day, it was revealed that Terrence had been living in the bunker and had been bringing [[trait positive]] girls there to kill them.

The actual location of this bunker was revealed to be the {{wikipedia|Kelvedon_Hatch_Secret_Nuclear_Bunker|Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker}}. See photos [http://sub-ex.blogspot.com/2008/02/kelvedon-hatch-nuclear-bunker.html here.]

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:222-ScienceLab.jpg|The exterior
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry.jpg|The front entry
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry hallway.jpg|The first hallway as you enter
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway.jpg|A hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway2.jpg|Another hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-stairwell.jpg|A stairwell
Image:KM222-Bunker-vault.jpg|The large vault
Image:KM223-Bunker-AWDREY.jpg|A.W.D.R.E.Y.
Image:KM223-Bunker-computers.jpg|Old-fashioned computers
Image:KM223-Bunker-room with beds.jpg|A room with beds
Image:KM223-Bunker-room.jpg|The large room
Image:KM223-Bunker-room2.jpg|The large room (2)
Image:KM224-Bunker-RAYNET.jpg|RAYNET
Image:KM224-Bunker-beds.jpg|Beds
Image:KM224-Bunker-corpse.jpg|A bloody corpse
Image:KM224-Bunker-stairwell2.jpg|A second stairwell
</gallery>

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==Steve's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Steve's flat
| image = KM225-CharlieSteve.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 7PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 8PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 9PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
After escaping from [[Terrence]] in [[Precious Blood: 6PM]], [[Steve]] and [[Charlie]] headed back to '''Steve's flat''' to rest. While they were there, the two [[KateModern relationships#Charlie and Steve|hooked up]]. Steve's flat is located in {{wikipedia|Bethnal_Green|Bethnal Green}} on the {{wikipedia|East_End_of_London|East End}}.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM225-StevesFlat-outside.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>
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==College of Arms==
{{Locations
| name = College of Arms
| image = KM237-College of Arms.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
While looking for information to help him track down [[Lord Carruthers]], Steve headed to the '''College of Arms''', where he learned about a [[Mary Annette|marionette]] doll once owned by [[Aleister Crowley]] which had been visited by Carruthers.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM237-College of Arms entry.jpg|The entry arch
</gallery>
{{Clr}}

==Bill Cowan's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Bill Cowan's flat
| image = KM285-RupertShakesJulia.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Her Indoors]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 2PM]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 4PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
Before heading to [[Orivwa|Paris]], [[Julia]] and [[Rupert Van Helden]] stayed at her father, '''[[Bill Cowan]]'s flat''' in London. Bill was out of town during their stay, allowing Rupert the chance to get away with physically and emotionally abusing Julia.

This flat is actually KateModern writer [[Luke Hyams]]'s father's flat.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM284-MirrorMirror.jpg|Through the looking glass
</gallery>
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==Paris==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = Paris
| image = MinorLocationsParis.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Tour de France]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[Operation: Rescue Jools]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Morning After (KateModern)|The Morning After]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Radio Ga Ga]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Charlie is Innocent]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[You've Been Framed]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Pointing Fingers]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Whodunit?]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
Toward the end of the series, '''Paris''' served as a major backdrop. [[Anthony]], [[Charlie]], [[Lauren]], and [[Steve]] departed for Paris in order to save [[Julia]] from her [[Rupert Van Helden|abusive husband]]. Following Julia's rescue, Charlie was arrested and held in a local prison under suspicion of connection to the theft of [[Michelle Clore]]'s final piece of Artwork.

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==[[Grinstead]]==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution
| image = KM300-GavWithPen.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Message from Grinstead]] - {{init|Grinstead}}
*[[The Last Work: 12PM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution''' is the psychiatric ward [[Gavin]] was moved to. He refers to it as "a place where [[the Order]] stores their problems."
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{{KateModern location index}}

The Last Work: 12PM

2008-07-08T20:17:11Z

Bobby G: /* Transcript */ 'audiblising'

{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 300
| image = KM300-GavWithPen.jpg
| caption = Thanks for this weapon of mass destruction
| blogger = Gavin
| date = 20080628
| url = {{KM|359}}
| forumid = 815
| length = 9:21
| description = I've done something really terrible but I'm on the right track now. Today is the day we're going to get the answers we're all owed.
| location = [[KateModern minor locations#Grinstead|Grinstead]]
| tags = {{tags|KateModern|LG15|lonelygirl15|Gavin}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| coexecprod = Joanna Shields and Amanda Goodfried
| setprod = Louis Figgis
| lineprod = Kelly Brett
| pc = Elisabeth Pinto
| ic = Jonathan Almond
| pr = Meryl Iona Edwards
| directors = Yusuf Pirhasan
| headwriter = Luke Hyams
| vidplay = Neil Mossey
| story = Luke Hyams, Neil Mossey, and Lawrence Tallis
| editor = John Palmer
| song =

| cast =
{{VidChar|Gavin}}
{{VidChar|Doctor#{{!}}Doctor 1|Neil Mossey}}
{{VidChar|Doctor#{{!}}Doctor 2|Lawrence Tallis}}
{{VidChar|Terrence|Matthew Gammie}}
{{VidChar|Joseph|KateModern cameos#Noel Clarke{{!}}Noel Clarke}}

| Previous = Message from Grinstead
| Next = The Last Work: 1PM
| PreviousB = I Know
| NextB =

| KM=yes
}}

==Transcript==
(''Color bars are seen and a high pitched noise is heard. The bottom of the screen reads, "[[KateModern minor locations#Grinstead|St. Grinstead]] Psychiatric Research Institution" and next to it reads, "TCG" with a timer for the video. The color bars disappear and we see Gavin, Doctor 1, and Doctor 2 in a room. Gavin is sitting on a bed facing the two men and the camera is centered on him. Doctor 2 is turned at the camera, adjusting it. He turns back to Gavin''.)

'''Doctor 2:''' Eh, you don't mind if we film this, do you Gavin?

'''Gavin:''' Uh, no.

'''Doctor 2:''' Good.

'''Gavin:''' No. It's c- it's cool. It's cool bananas, man. Cool. Ice cold. (''Whispering'') Cool.

'''Doctor 2:''' Good.

'''Gavin:''' What's this for?

'''Doctor 2:''' Oh, it's just for reference.

'''Gavin:''' Reference?

'''Doctor 2:''' Mhm. (''Nods'')

'''Gavin:''' Sure.

'''Doctor 2:''' Yeah.

'''Doctor 1:''' Gavin, as you know we've been monitoring your progress over the last few weeks with us and we're really, really happy with the signs of recovery you've been showing us.

'''Doctor 2:''' Mmm, it's been a real improvement.

'''Doctor 1:''' But there is- there's still one aspect of your assessment that's... cause for concern and, well... it's entirely normal for- for people to... question their self-image, the face we present in the world. We'd like to do some work on that today. (''Looks at camera'') Are you sure you're okay with us filming this?

'''Gavin:''' Yeah.

'''Doctor 1:''' Because it just seems from your case notes that the- the sense of being viewed or tracked is... it's still an issue for you.

'''Gavin:''' So?

'''Doctor 1:''' So... what we'd like to do today is to try a- a little exercise.

(''Doctor 2 hands Gavin a clipboard with a piece of paper''.)

'''Doctor 1:''' W-what we'd like you to do is to- is to write or, or maybe even draw for us some sense of the emotions that- that surface while you're being recorded.

'''Gavin:''' I haven't got a pen.

'''Doctor 2:''' Oh, sorry. (''Hands Gavin a pen'') Here.

'''Gavin:''' Thank you. (''Holds pen to paper'') You want me to show you with this (''holds pen up'') how I feel about that (''points to camera'')?

'''Doctor 1:''' Yeah, just- just give us some idea of the opportunities that the- having a camera in the room presents to you.

(''Gavin goes to start writing on the paper but suddenly stabs Doctor 1 in the leg with the pen. Doctor 1 starts screaming and falls to the floor. Gavin gets up and beats Doctor 2 over the head with the clipboard. He grabs the camera, shows Doctor 2 on the floor, then Doctor 1. He grabs a set of master keys off a desk and runs out of the room, shutting the door behind him. He runs down the hall, passing a staff member along the way. He keeps running, checking around corner for people''.)

'''Gavin:''' (''winded'') Welcome to Grinstead's loony bin. A place where [[The Order]] stores their problems. And it looks like I'm just reached my used by date. (''Runs down another hallway'') I'm so, so sorry I have not blogged in a while. It's very rude of me, I know. But it's a bit difficult to update your profile when they keep you away from sharp objects and technology after 1970. (''Pans camera up and down hallways'') But it's worse for some of the others. You see, it looks like I'm not the biggest problem The Order's got hidden away here. There's one patient I'm really quite worried about. And I dunno what they've done, but The Order's kept their face hidden at all times and they're under maximum security. So I think it might be someone we know. (''Walks up to the door and zooms in on the handle'') So let's go pay a visit (''Holds up keys and jingles them'') to [[Terrence|Patient 12]].

(''Gavin inserts the key into the door and opens it. A person is lying on a hospital bed wrapped in a straight jacket with a covering over the head''.)

'''Gavin:''' Kate? (''The person lightly nods'') Okay. (''Pans Patient 12's body'') Oh God. What have they... (''pulls on a set of shackles holding Patient 12 to the bed'') Is it really you, Kate? (''Patient 12 nods'') I knew it! I knew it! I knew if I just- if I just kept the faith and nobody believed me. What's happen- (''pulls at head wrap'') I can't get that off. (''Pulls at straight jacket'') Stay still. If I just (''pulls off straight jacket'') kept the faith. I knew I'd be proved right. (''Pans camera to a bunch of wires connected to Patient 12'') Stay still. (''Rips wires from Patient 12. A buzzing noise is heard. Gavin walks over to Patient 12 and tries to pull off the head wrap''.) Here you go, it's okay. (''Patient 12 swats at Gavin and sends him tumbling to the floor. Gavin is panting on the floor'') Oh shit!

(''Gavin grabs the camera off of the floor and runs down a series of hallways. He turns around and Patient 12 can be seen running after him. Gavin runs down a side hallway, out of sight, and Patient 12 is seen running by. Gavin runs to an exit and activates the fire alarm. Sirens start ringing throughout the building, but the exit door won't open''.)

'''Gavin:''' Please, anyone! (''Bangs on door'') Get me out! Help! (''A man is seen through the window in the door'') Hey, hey! Come here! Come here! Please get me out! Get me out! Come on, today! Hurry up! Yeah, that's it! Open the door! (''The man stares at Gavin through the glass'') Open the door, don't look at me, open the door! Please! Please, come on, now, today! (''The man opens the door'') Yes! Move!

(''Gavin runs down the hallway and the man follows after him'')

'''Joseph:''' Where are we going? Where are we going?

'''Gavin:''' Shush! Shh, shh, shh, shh! W-w-what's your name?

'''Joseph:''' Joseph. Joseph.

'''Gavin:''' Joseph, be quiet. Be quiet. Be quiet. We gotta get out of here. Okay? (''Joseph runs ahead of him'') Wait, Joseph!

'''Joseph:''' Where are we going?

'''Gavin:''' (''Pushes him against the wall'') Get back, get back! (''Pans camera up and down the hallway'') I've gotta get out of here! (''Runs down a hallway'')

'''Joseph:''' Where are you going?

'''Gavin:''' Don't- go away! Leave me alone!

'''Joseph:''' No, I--

'''Gavin:''' Shh, shh, shh!

'''Joseph:''' --I, I'm coming with you!

'''Gavin:''' Don't come with me. I don't need you to come with me. Just go away!

'''Joseph:''' But I wanna come with you!

'''Gavin:''' Ugh.

(''Gavin opens the door to an office. He turns around to see if Joseph has left. He finds him standing in an awkward, still position. Gavin grabs him and pulls him into the office''.)

'''Gavin:''' Shh, be quiet.

(''Gavin films outside the office through the small window in the door. A doctor is seen running from a room down the hallway''.)

'''Gavin:''' Woah. Ah, okay. (''To Joseph'') Hold this. (''Hands camera to Joseph'')

'''Joseph:''' Why- why are we hiding?

(''Gavin turns around and looks to the far end of the room''.)

'''Gavin:''' Hold on a second. (''Runs to a filing cabinet and opens the top drawer'') I don't believe it. The motherload. (''Rummages through files'') S, s, s, s... S! (''Pulls a file out'') I don't believe it. (''Closes drawer and opens file'') I don't believe it.

(''Gavin walks over to the door and then back to the desk. He opens up the file on the desk and starts flipping through the papers inside one by one''.)

'''Gavin:''' Yes... (''slams hand on piece of paper and closes file'')

(''Gavin runs to the door and carefully opens it, making sure nobody is in the hallway. Joseph eagerly follows him with the camera''.)

'''Joseph:''' Hey! Hey!

'''Gavin:''' Give me that! (''Takes camera'')

'''Joseph:''' What have we got? What have we got?

'''Gavin:''' ''I'' have... have gotta get out of here. You stay here. (''Starts walking away'') Stay!

(''Gavin runs down the hallway. He stops at a corner, peeking around. Joseph suddenly appears in the shot''.)

'''Joseph:''' I like this game.

(''Gavin pulls Joseph back and they start running down a series of hallways. Eventually they make it to the main exit and Joseph takes the lead''.)

'''Joseph:''' Three, two, one. (''Runs down the stairs'')

'''Gavin:''' I can't believe he can count to three.

'''Joseph:''' Come on. Come on. Shh! (''Motions to get down'') Shh! This is my game now.

'''Gavin:''' It's not a game. J- get off the stairs!

(''Joseph stiffens up and tries to act "normal" and motions for Gavin to follow him. The two start humming and continue walking through the front lobby''.)

'''Gavin:''' This is nice.

'''Joseph:''' Very nice. (''Salutes the security guard'')

'''Gavin:''' Yep, yep. Good afternoon.

(''Cut to the pair exiting an elevator with Joseph still leading. He motions for Gavin to follow him and the two head out of a door leading to a parking garage''.)

'''Gavin:''' Wait, Joseph! Where are we going? (''Joseph starts running through the garage'') Please stop running like that. You're drawing attention to us.

(''Cut to outside the building where Joseph is still running''.)

'''Gavin:''' All right, stop! Stop! Stop! Why are you here? Why are you following me?

'''Joseph:''' I didn't like it in there. (''Getting upset'') Every time we had dessert, they never let me have my cake! (''Starts running again'')

'''Gavin:''' All right. What did they do to you? Come on then, let's go!

'''Joseph:''' Where are we going?

'''Gavin:''' To an internet café, hurry up! Come on! (''The two run away'')

==Notes==

Hymn of One recruitment centers

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{{Locations
| name = Hymn of One recruitment centers
| image = Breehymofonevideo.JPG
| appearances =
'''The Seminar Location'''<br>
*[[Sing With Me]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[It's A Cult]] - {{init|Jonas}}
*[[Getting Her Back]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[My Eternal Song]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
*[[FOLLOW YOUR HAPPINESS]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[Sing Until The End]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[Something's Coming]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[A Week to Remember]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]] - {{init|The Creators}}
'''The White Room'''<br>
*[[Miss Me?]] - {{init|OpAphid}}
*[[Be Part of Something]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[Look Back]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]] - {{init|The Creators}}
*[[Nothing More, Nothing Less]] - {{init|Hymn of One}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
'''The Hymn of One Los Angeles Center'''
*[[What's Going on?]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[Prom: It's To Die For - Part 4]] - {{init|Emma}}
'''The Hymn of One London Centre'''
*[[Hymn of One (video)|Hymn of One]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Losing My Religion (KateModern)|Losing My Religion]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Resolution]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[It's Hymn!]] - {{init|Sophie}}
*[[Terry]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[The Day of the Eternal Song]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Hunting The Elder]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
The Hymn of One uses a variety of '''recruitment centers''' to help entice people to join their religion.

==The Seminar Location==
After Bree [[What the F*@k???|left with]] the Hymn of One in [[Zavalla]], Texas, she was brainwashed and made to participate in a series of [[Sing With Me|recruitment videos]] for the '''HoO Seminar'''. [[Daniel]], [[Jonas]], and [[Sarah]] [[It's A Cult|tracked the location down]] and rescued her.

<gallery>
Image: 0204-DanielGrabbingSarah.jpg|A pathway
Image:203-HidingBehindATree.JPG|A good hiding spot
Image:NBR020-NikkiWithHandOnEar.jpg|Nikki Bower investigates
</gallery>

==The White Room==
After Daniel was [[Miss Me?|kidnapped]] by [[OpAphid]], he posted a video from a myserious white room, urging Bree to complete [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]]. Since that time, Bree joined up with the Hymn of One and began posting recruitment videos in a similar white room somewhere within the Hymn of One facilities.

<gallery>
Image:Danielbeastpossessed.jpg|Daniel in the room
Image:200-Bree-hymn.jpg|Bree recruiting new members
</gallery>

==The Hymn of One Los Angeles Recruitment Center==
Following a tip from a [[A Woman's Touch|a drunken]] [[Chris]], [[Jonas]], [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], and [[Mallory]] went to the Hymn of One Los Angeles Recruitment Center, believing they would find [[Emma]] preparing for [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]]. Instead, they found a [[What's Going on?|press conference]] announcing a new partnership between the Hymn of One, the [[Wyman Foundation]], and [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]].

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:0327-HoO-Front.jpg|The lobby
Image:0327-HoO-Elevators.jpg|The elevators
Image:Episode 0327-2x071-What's Going on; HoO Recruitment Poster LA.jpg|The HoO L.A. Poster
Image:0327-Conference-Room.jpg|The conference room
Image:0327-HoO-Hallway.jpg|The hallway
</gallery>

==The Hymn of One London Centre==
In Charlie's video [[Hymn of One (video)|Hymn of One]], she looks up the London Hymn of One Recruitment Centre in her search for Kate. When she arrives, she meets [[Steve]] who wants her to leave him alone. Because of this, she can't get past the front door. The Hymn of One London Centre is located at 380 Old Street, as revealed in [[Hunting The Elder]].

The actual location of this building is at the Shoreditch Town Hall [http://www.shoreditchtownhall.org.uk/].

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0242-HoO5.jpg|The top.
Image:KM0242-HoO3.jpg|The entrance.
Image:KM0242-HoO1.jpg|Above the entrance
Image:KM0075_HoOEntranceDecor.jpg|The decoration over the windows.
Image:KM0075_HoOBuildingMiddle.jpg|Middle of the building.
Image:KM0097 HoOLondonCentre.jpg|The sign on the door.
Image:KM0097_EntranceRoom.jpg|The welcome room.
Image:KM230-Hallway.jpg|The main hallway.
Image:KM230-MainRoom.jpg|The main room.
</gallery>

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{{location index}}
{{KateModern location index}}
[[Category:Covers for the Order]]

KateModern minor locations

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{{see also|Lonelygirl15 minor locations}}
==The Roof==
{{Locations
| name = The Roof
| image = 0007-WelcomeRoof.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Welcome to the roof]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
'''The Roof''' is a place where [[Tariq]] likes to spend his free time. He spends his entire [[Welcome to the roof|first blog]] introducing viewers to it.

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==The Unfamiliar Graveyard==
{{Locations
| name = The Unfamiliar Graveyard
| image = 0009-KateSunglasses.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Awful Dream]] - {{Init|Kate}}
}}
'''The Unfamiliar Graveyard''' is the place [[Kate]] reenacts her dream from [[Awful Dream]]. Not much is known about the graveyard.

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==Upton Park==
{{Locations
| name = Upton Park
| image = West Ham United.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Walk of Shame]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
The Boleyn Ground at '''Upton Park''' is {{wikipedia|West_Ham_United_F.C.|West Ham United's}} home ground, the football team that Tariq supports. He goes there in [[Walk of Shame]] to reminisce about when he went to watch matches there.

<gallery>
Image:KM0023-HammersStatue.jpg|Up the 'ammers!
</gallery>
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==Sophie's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Sophie's flat
| image = KM0203-AliceandSophie.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[St. Paul's Cathedral: 6pm - 22nd November 2007]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Who Killed Kate?]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Golf Day Out]] - {{init|Sophie}}
* [[Name the Traitor!]] - {{init|Sophie}}
}}
[[Sophie]] lives in '''her flat''' with her roommate Alice. The two of them occasionally blog from this location.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM277-Sophies bed.jpg|Sophie's bed
Image:0031-KM-Sophie.jpg|The computer room
Image:KM277-Lee outside Sophies flat.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>

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==Gavin's sister's house==
{{Locations
| name = Gavin's sister's house
| image = KM0039-GavinOnTheBed.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Explain yourself]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
After [[Steve]] [[The Prisoner|accused Gavin]] of having ties to the [[Hymn of One]], Gavin fled and went to stay at '''[[Gavin's sister|his sister's]] house'''.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0039-FrontDoor.jpg|The front door
Image:KM0039-BackDoor.jpg|The back door
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Fridge.jpg|The kitchen
Image:KM0039-Gavin-Staircase.jpg|The staircase
</gallery>
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==Pinchin Street==
{{Locations
| name = Pinchin Street
| image = KM0053KateTariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
* [[Girl Power]] - {{init|Charlie}}
* [[Charlie and the Seven Snorks]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
After decoding a [[Who Watches The Watcher?|secret message]] from [[Dudley]] and [[Dr. William Griffin]], [[Kate]], [[Charlie]] and [[Tariq]] headed off to '''Pinchin Street''' to meet up with Dudley and get some answers. Kate and Charlie got in the car with Dudley; however, Tariq was left behind.

===History===
"The Pinchin Street Murder", a term coined after a torso was found in similar condition to "The Whitehall Mystery" (though the hands were not severed), on September 10, 1889. The body was found under a railway arch in Pinchin Street, Whitechapel. Unconfirmed speculation of the time was that the body belonged to Lydia Hart, a prostitute who had disappeared. "The Whitehall Mystery" and "The Pinchin Street Murder" have often been suggested to be the works of a serial killer, for which the nicknames "Torso Killer" or "Torso Murderer" have been suggested. Whether Jack the Ripper and the "Torso Killer" were the same person or separate serial killers of uncertain connection to each other (but active in the same area) has long been debated by Ripperologists. This was the tenth of the Whitechapel murders. <ref>{{wikipedia|The_Pinchin_Street_Murder|Wikipedia article on The Pinchin Street Murder}}</ref>

===References===
<references/>

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==Regency Grand Hotel==
{{Locations
| name = Regency Grand Hotel
| image = KM0060-Gavin-Charlie-Giggling.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances = *[[Saved By LaBeouf]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''Regency Grand Hotel''' is the hotel that [[Charlie]] goes to in hopes of finding Shia LaBeouf. When she doesn't find him, she goes to the bar and avoids several men.

Shortly thereafter, Gavin shows up and officially asks Charlie to be his girlfriend.
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==Millennium Bridge==
{{Locations
| name = Millennium Bridge
| image = KM237-Millenium Bridge.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Why?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Kate Returns]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Where is She?]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
The '''Millennium Bridge''' is a pedestrian-only bridge that crosses the Thames River. It is located between Southwark Bridge (downstream) and Blackfriars Bridge (upstream). Many characters have headed to this bridge to blog.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM0091Kate.jpg|Kate on the bridge
Image:KM0237-Steve.jpg|Steve underneath the bridge
</gallery>
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==Tower of London==
{{Locations
| name = Tower of London
| image = KM0076Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Somewhere Only We Know]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
In [[Somewhere Only We Know]], Tariq stands in front of the '''Tower of London''' and talks about his feelings regarding his new relationship with [[Julia]] and his old one with [[Kate]]. The tower is located in central London, England, on the north bank of the River Thames. It is located within the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and is separated from the eastern edge of the City of London by the open space known as Tower Hill.

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==Tariq's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Tariq's flat
| image = KM0077Tariq.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Cooking With Tariq]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Commitment]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Smells like Xmas spirit]] - {{init|Tariq}}
*[[Happy new year?]] - {{init|Tariq}}
}}
Tariq lives in his '''flat''' by himself (to our knowledge). In [[Cooking With Tariq]], he invited his girlfriend, [[Julia]] over and cooked dinner for her, before passing out on the sofa.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KMTariqApartmentKitchen.jpg|Kitchen
Image:KMTariqAptKitchenJulia.jpg|Washing up in kitchen
Image:KMTariqApartmentLR.jpg|Living Room
Image:KMTariqApartmentSofa.jpg|Tariq zonked out on sofa.
</gallery>

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==Janet's house==
{{Locations
|name = Janet's house
|image = Janetsdad.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*[[Janet]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
'''Janet's house''' is where [[Charlie]] [[Janet|goes]] to see the first girl on [[From Above|Charlie's list]] of [[trait positive]] girls that [[Dr. Griffin]] had operated on. However, [[Janet's dad]] sulkily answers the door and reveals that Janet died the previous week.
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==Internet cafés==
{{Locations
|name = Internet cafés
|image = KM169-Man on a Mission.jpg
| KM = yes
|appearances =
*'''Westminster'''
**[[Kate Positive]] - {{init|Kate}}
**[[Man on a Mission]] - {{init|Steve}}
*'''Near the new flat'''
**[[let my sister go]] - {{init|Lauren}}
**[[Bang Out of Order]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*'''Other'''
**[[Message to Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
When in need of a stable internet connection, many characters head to '''internet cafés''' to blog and upload their videos.
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==Melbourne==
{{Locations
| name = Melbourne
| image = KM0154-LunaPark.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[St. Kilda Beach]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
[[Charlie]] once resided in '''Melbourne, Australia'''. She returns to [[St. Kilda Beach]], near her childhood home, at the end of Season 1.

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==FTO Headquarters==
{{Locations
| name = FTO Headquarters
| image = KM186-RupertFTO.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Who Are The FTO?]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Answers]] - {{init|Terrence}}
}}
'''FTO Headquarters''' is [[Jeffrey]]'s bedroom. There, he and his friend [[Raymond]] published rumors that [[Finding the One]] author [[Rupert Van Helden]] took part in a bizarre, religious ritual that was responsible for [[Kate]]'s death.

The walls of FTO Headquarters are plastered with photos of Kate and the other various people in her life.

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==Lauren's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Lauren's flat
| image = KM0208-Laurenandsteve.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Lauren (video)|Lauren]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Doorstepping]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Batwoman]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 11AM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
[[Lauren]] lives in '''flat''' 57 B with her parents. Her sister used to live with them as well before she was kidnapped.

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==Julia's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Julia's flat
| image = KM218-JuliasFlat-hallway.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 12PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 1PM]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Mrs Van Helden?]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Hunting The Elder]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
After Lauren was [[Precious Blood: 11AM|kidnapped]] by [[Terrence]] and [[Steve]], Charlie headed to '''Julia's flat''' to enlist her help. While she was there, she caught Julia in bed with [[Rupert Van Helden]].

Above the couch is a painting of Batman and Robin.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-gate.jpg|The front gate
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-front door.jpg|The front door
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bedroom.jpg|Julia's bedroom
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-bed.jpg|Julia's bed
Image:KM218-JuliasFlat-couch.jpg|The red couch
</gallery>

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==Precious Blood bunker==
{{Locations
| name = Precious Blood bunker
| image = 220-SteveLauren.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 5PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 6PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 2PM]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Precious Blood: 4PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
}}
During the '''[[Precious Blood]]''' 12in12, [[Steve]] and [[Terrence]] kidnapped [[Lauren]] and took her to an '''underground bunker'''. [[Gavin]] and [[Charlie]] went to rescue her, only to find that Terrence had turned the tides and tied up Steve as well. Throughout the day, it was revealed that Terrence had been living in the bunker and had been bringing [[trait positive]] girls there to kill them.

The actual location of this bunker was revealed to be the {{wikipedia|Kelvedon_Hatch_Secret_Nuclear_Bunker|Kelvedon Hatch Secret Nuclear Bunker}}. See photos [http://sub-ex.blogspot.com/2008/02/kelvedon-hatch-nuclear-bunker.html here.]

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:222-ScienceLab.jpg|The exterior
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry.jpg|The front entry
Image:KM222-Bunker-entry hallway.jpg|The first hallway as you enter
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway.jpg|A hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-hallway2.jpg|Another hallway
Image:KM222-Bunker-stairwell.jpg|A stairwell
Image:KM222-Bunker-vault.jpg|The large vault
Image:KM223-Bunker-AWDREY.jpg|A.W.D.R.E.Y.
Image:KM223-Bunker-computers.jpg|Old-fashioned computers
Image:KM223-Bunker-room with beds.jpg|A room with beds
Image:KM223-Bunker-room.jpg|The large room
Image:KM223-Bunker-room2.jpg|The large room (2)
Image:KM224-Bunker-RAYNET.jpg|RAYNET
Image:KM224-Bunker-beds.jpg|Beds
Image:KM224-Bunker-corpse.jpg|A bloody corpse
Image:KM224-Bunker-stairwell2.jpg|A second stairwell
</gallery>

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==Steve's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Steve's flat
| image = KM225-CharlieSteve.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Precious Blood: 7PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 8PM]] - {{init|Charlie}}
*[[Precious Blood: 9PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
After escaping from [[Terrence]] in [[Precious Blood: 6PM]], [[Steve]] and [[Charlie]] headed back to '''Steve's flat''' to rest. While they were there, the two [[KateModern relationships#Charlie and Steve|hooked up]]. Steve's flat is located in {{wikipedia|Bethnal_Green|Bethnal Green}} on the {{wikipedia|East_End_of_London|East End}}.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM225-StevesFlat-outside.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>
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==College of Arms==
{{Locations
| name = College of Arms
| image = KM237-College of Arms.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Called To Arms]] - {{init|Steve}}
}}
While looking for information to help him track down [[Lord Carruthers]], Steve headed to the '''College of Arms''', where he learned about a [[Mary Annette|marionette]] doll once owned by [[Aleister Crowley]] which had been visited by Carruthers.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM237-College of Arms entry.jpg|The entry arch
</gallery>
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==Bill Cowan's flat==
{{Locations
| name = Bill Cowan's flat
| image = KM285-RupertShakesJulia.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Orivwa]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Her Indoors]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 2PM]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Last Work: 4PM]] - {{init|Lee}}
}}
Before heading to [[Orivwa|Paris]], [[Julia]] and [[Rupert Van Helden]] stayed at her father, '''[[Bill Cowan]]'s flat''' in London. Bill was out of town during their stay, allowing Rupert the chance to get away with physically and emotionally abusing Julia.

This flat is actually KateModern writer [[Luke Hyams]]'s father's flat.

<gallery perrow="3">
Image:KM284-MirrorMirror.jpg|Through the looking glass
</gallery>
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==Paris==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = Paris
| image = MinorLocationsParis.JPG
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Tour de France]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[Operation: Rescue Jools]] - {{init|Lauren}}
*[[The Morning After (KateModern)|The Morning After]] - {{init|Julia}}
*[[Radio Ga Ga]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Charlie is Innocent]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[You've Been Framed]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Pointing Fingers]] - {{init|Steve}}
*[[Whodunit?]] - {{init|Julia}}
}}
Toward the end of the series, '''Paris''' served as a major backdrop. [[Anthony]], [[Charlie]], [[Lauren]], and [[Steve]] departed for Paris in order to save [[Julia]] from her [[Rupert Van Helden|abusive husband]]. Following Julia's rescue, Charlie was arrested and held in a local prison under suspicion of connection to the theft of [[Michelle Clore]]'s final piece of Artwork.

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==Grinstead==
{{NeedsImages}}
{{Locations
| name = St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution
| image = KM300-GavWithPen.jpg
| KM = yes
| appearances =
*[[Message from Grinstead]] - {{init|Grinstead}}
*[[The Last Work: 12PM]] - {{init|Gavin}}
}}
'''St. Grinstead Psychiatric Research Institution''' is the psychiatric ward [[Gavin]] was moved to. He refers to it as "a place where [[the Order]] stores their problems."
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{{KateModern location index}}

Sacred Spirit

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{{Locations
| name = Sacred Spirit Headquarters
| image = 437-SacredSpirit.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Coffee and Donuts]] - {{init|Jonas}}
* [[Tick Tick Boom]] - {{init|Sarah}}
* [[Doing It Myself]] - {{init|Emma}}
}}
'''Sacred Spirit''' is a charity organization founded by [[Carl]]. It was first mentioned in a [[Spanish Princess|love letter]] he wrote to [[Sarah]]. Fans later researched it, and discovered a [[MySpace]] page devoted to it.

Beyond Carl, there appears to be no connection to the [[Hymn of One]] or [[The Order]]. However, when [[TAAG]] [[Stiff|visited]] [[Lonelygirl15 minor locations#Bunker 7|Bunker #7]], they discovered the letters SS written on a white board about the Order, leading some to believe that there is, in fact, a connection. This connection was later verified by fan [[Evergreen]], who found out that Sacred Spirit is funding [[Edward Salinas]]'s campaign.

Later, Carl was [[Doing It Myself|kidnapped]] by Salinas and held at Sacred Spirit Headquarters in an attempt to lure TAAG to him. [[Emma]] went to rescue him, and both she and Carl got out safely.

[[Image:SacredSpirit.jpg|150px|left|Logo from the MySpace page]]
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==MySpace Description==

{{quote|Sacred Spirit MySpace|
'''About me:'''<br>
Despite the world’s progress in technology and social advancement, humankind still suffers... Famine, disease, homelessness, violence, and disenfranchisement grow in unprecedented numbers. There are many organizations around the world that address the needs of those who cannot fight for themselves. And while their progress is commendable, it is not enough. There are too many people that slip through the cracks. Before, help was never an option. But now, it is. In the last six months, the world has turned their attention towards Sacred Spirit, a not-for-profit organization devoted to empowering those voiceless groups who, once before, could not be reached and who were once sadly forgotten. Their vision of an empowered and balanced world is reached with the help of volunteers and benefactors across the globe. Their generosity has gone a long way -- anywhere, in fact, from Meadville, Pennsylvania to Opuwo, Namibia to Luque, Paraguay. Moreover, the involvement of these benefactors and volunteers has achieved staggering results: • in September 2007, while a drought led to a famine in Djibouti, Sacred Spirit was there providing villages across the country with golden rice. • in December 2007, the Atua district of Samoa suffered 714 deaths due to an outbreak of Typhus. Sacred Spirit immediately brought volunteer doctors to the area and vaccinated the entire region, quelling the outbreak within days. • in February 2008, the Sri Lankan city of Mannar witnessed the building of 300 residential complexes to house its 12,000 formerly homeless citizens. This is just a tiny sampling of the expanse of our reach. As of March 2008, there are 127 different projects being undertaken. And that is still not enough. In the next year, we plan to move swiftly ahead. Because there is no time more critical than now. Because the need to address these problems can no longer be delayed. Because inside each one of us, a Sacred Spirit is waiting to be released.

'''Who I'd like to meet:'''<br>
The reason why Sacred Spirit was founded initially was to eradicate poverty. Completely. Swiftly. From country to country. While some claim that our goal is a bit lofty, we claim it is well within our reach. The proof is in our record of vast accomplishments within the short six months we have been established. Therefore, the question of poverty isn't how we plan to solve it, but rather, how soon. Our success is largely grounded in our base of volunteers. Moreover, since we have broadened our scope to address disease, violence, disenfranchisement, and homelessness as well, these volunteers have become even more invaluable to our mission. Thus, it should come to no surprise that the Sacred Spirit is actively looking for individuals of high moral caliber to take on the world's biggest challenges. Most of our volunteers work in the field, anywhere from 7,000 miles away to 7 miles away. Yet, a core group of Good Samaritans fill our Los Angeles main office everyday, incurring essential administrative duties. How you volunteer your time is your choice. You can offer to set up a triage station in Micronesia or you can offer to work by the phone in our main office in Los Angeles. Each carries their own priceless weight that the Sacred Spirit cannot thrive without. Summer internships for college students seeking credit are also available. Please email us at sacredspiritla@gmail.com today to review your options. It's an exciting time to be part of something beyond ourselves.
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==Gallery==
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Image:0487-SS-hallway.jpg|The hallway
Image:0487-SS-CarlRoom.jpg|The room where Carl was held captive
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{myspace|sacredspiritla|Sacred Spirit on MySpace.com}}

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Bio-Therapy Report LLC

2008-07-08T20:02:52Z

Bobby G: cover for the order

[[Image:Memo.jpg|thumb|A memo to Bio-Therapy Report LLC]]
'''Bio-Therapy Report LLC''' is a leading sponsor for [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]] and another front for [[the Order]]. Under the direction of [[Dr. William Porter]] (an [[Elder]] of the Order), it funded Verdus's operation, the [[Hart Study]] as well as the [[Lullaby Project]]. At least 500 Million dollars was placed into these two organizations. Porter's intention, as it was later [[Lost & Found|revealed]], was to ensure that he and -- to a later extent, the Order -- would have a fertile supply of Trait Positive girls.

With the Hart Study a failure, and the Lullaby Project secretly creating more miscarriages than desired, Dr. Porter demanded that [[Dr. Calvin Hart]] provide a trait positive girl: [[Gina]], the control of the Hart Study. Through some extortion, Dr. Porter was willing to traded Gina for [[Emma]] instead.

Ultimately, [[Bloodlines: Part 4|Dr. Hart killed Dr. Porter]], saving both girls, but leaving the future of Bio-Therapy LLC in uncertainty.

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Verdus Pharmaceuticals

2008-07-08T20:02:01Z

Bobby G: cover for the order

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| image = VerdusLogo.jpg
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*[[Evil Drug Company Exposed!]] - {{init|Jonas}}
*[[Germ Warfare Attack]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[Looking For A Date]] - {{init|Sarah}}
*[[Her Body, Her Blood]] - {{init|Dr. Hart}}
*[[Coming For You]] - {{init|Shadow}}
*[[Bree's Mom]] - {{init|Daniel}}
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'''Verdus Pharmaceuticals''' is a [[Connections|"mega-huge drug company" ]] that recently [[What's Going on?|announced]] a partnership for a new project called the [[Lullaby Project]] with the [[Wyman Foundation]] and the [[Hymn of One]].

==The Website==
"Verdus is a leading pharmaceutical company dedicated to making healthier people on a healthier planet. We began this simple mission back in 1984 when Thomas Verdus returned from a year long trek around the globe. It was as clear to Thomas then, as it is to our company today, the way to make healthier people is to find the many ways we can all live longer and stronger. How do we accomplish this task? From day one Verdus has been leading the way to this new frontier. Where is this new frontier? Look in the mirror. The new frontier begins with you. This new frontier can be found in each and every one of us. You are our partner along this path to living longer and stronger. Although our researchers are exploring and discovering unprecedented treatments and cures everyday, the path to living stronger and longer starts with each of us taking the first few steps. Good nutrition, robust exercise, and a clean environment will help all of us make those first few steps toward this new frontier. Verdus is very committed to making our medicines and supplements available to the entire world community. We do this by partnering with local clinics and community groups. And our commitment does not stop there. We feel it is our responsibility, as health care practioners, to educate, enrich, and enhance the lives of all the people we touch. Together, we can all make this planet a healthier and happier place." [http://www.verduspharma.com]

[[Image:Verdus Team.jpg|thumb|right|285px|[[Dr. Calvin Hart]]; second row, center]]
Under press:

"San Francisco, CA, October. 19, 2007 - Verdus today announced that their esteemed life extension researcher, Dr. Calvin Hart, will be hosting a panel this evening at the "This Life" medical conference being held in Pasadena. Dr. Hart is currently involved with Verdus' "Live Longer and Stronger" research group based in Los Angeles. A graduate of Columbia University and Cornell, Dr. Hart has been a part of the Verdus global clinical research team for the last twenty-two years. Dr. Hart's work encourages the use of nature based nutraceuticals, restorative hormones, and cutting edge pharmaceuticals created by Verdus." [http://www.verduspharma.com/press/]

==What Is It, Really?==
In [[Connections]], Jonas was able to conclude that Verdus Pharmaceuticals was merely another front for the Order, and would be working to help the [[Elder]]s obtain the [[the Ceremony (ritual)|eternal life]] they so desperately desire.

In the Bloodlines finale we found out that Verdus Pharmaceuticals had a [[Hart Study|secret project]] that involved creating trait positive girls for the Order. They took two girls from Russia, one went to an American family, the other was a girl called [[Gina]], who they used as the control for this experiment

In [[Stock Options]], it was revealed that [[Elizabeth Avery]] is the Chairman of the Board of the company. It was also revealed that the board meets on the third Friday of every month.

==Location==
The Verdus Pharmaceuticals location was first seen in [[Evil Drug Company Exposed!]]. In [[Germ Warfare Attack]], Verdus Pharmaceuticals lab was revealed as a large office building.

==End==
In [[Bloodlines: Part 4]], Dr. Hart claims that Verdus will come to an end with the death of William Porter. However, this does not seem to be the case, as it was revealed in [[Stock Options]] that they still hold regular Board meetings.

==Gallery==
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Image:0369-VerdusPharmaceuticalsLab.jpg|Outside of the Building
Image:0362-VerdusInside.jpg|Inside, presumably an office
</gallery>

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Wyman Foundation

2008-07-08T20:01:11Z

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*[[The Mad Scientist]] - {{init|Sarah}}
*[[Mission Possible]] - {{init|Spencer}}
*[[Proceed with Caution]] - {{init|Alex}}
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The '''Wyman Foundation''' was first discovered when [[Taylor]] analyzed the [[A New Lead|bar codes]] from the [[Opening the Box|box]] left for [[Bree]] by her [[Drew Avery|dad]]. The Wyman Foundation's logo is a [[lemniscate]], like those found on the boxes of [[Epogen]].

==The Website==
"The Wyman Foundation is a private, non-profit basic research and educational institution. Under the leadership of our world-renowned staff, some 330 scientists conduct groundbreaking research in cancer, neurobiology, plant genetics and bioinformatics. The Wyman Foundation is one of eight National Cancer Institute-designated basic research centers in the U.S. and the only such center in the San Diego area.

Established more than fifty years ago, Wyman Foundation is today recognized internationally for its educational activities, including an extensive program of scientific meetings and courses that attracts more than 8,000 scientists to the campus each year." [http://www.wymanfoundation.com]

==What Is It, Really?==
The Wyman Foundation is [[Connections|actually]] a front for [[the Order]]. They help the Order gather information regarding ribozymes, [[trait positive|blood traits]], and more.

==Location==
The scenes at the Wyman Foundation do not actually take place at the Wyman Foundation in San Diego. They are all in Calabasas, CA, which is north of Los Angeles. The locations are the Union 76 station on Calabasas Road, The Commons on Calabasas Road, and an office park on Murearu Road.

==Gallery==

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Image:Wyman ext.jpg|A far-shot of the building
Image:0215-DanielPreparingToEnter.jpg|Outside the Main Office
Image:0215-SarahSittingOnTheGrass.jpg|The lawn
</gallery>

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Hymn of One

2008-07-08T20:00:33Z

Bobby G:

:''This page is about the organization called The Hymn of One. For the KateModern video of the same name, see [[Hymn of One (video)]].''

[[Image:Hymn of One website.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Screenshot from [http://www.hymnofone.org hymnofone.org].]]
The '''Hymn of One''' (HoO), originally believed to be [[Thelema|Thelemic]] in nature, is now known to be the [[Losing My Religion|religious front]] for a mysterious organization called [[The Order]]. Many argue that the HoO is not truly a religion, but [[It's A Cult|a cult]]. They note the HoO's brainwashing techniques, such as having members recite "[[It's A Cult|The Hymn of One is fun]]" repeatedly, as highly characteristic of cultish behavior.

Most members of the Hymn of One are very naïve, and don't know anything about the Order whatsoever. Many members live in controlled [[commune|communities]], made up entirely of Hymn of One members.

==Principles & Beliefs==
[[Hear My Song|According to Steve]], finding one's eternal song is ''"basically what we can do when we go deeper into our own conscious and find out exactly what we're about . . . in this harsh world."''

The Hymn of One [[Lying Bastards|allegedly advocates]] [[free will]], but, like most cults, do not truly believe in it. This is evidenced in the way they pursued [[Bree]] and tried to [[Miss Me?|manipulate her]] into doing [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]], even after she had [[I Listened To Daniel|decided against it]].

According to Sonia, members of the Hymn of One apparently believe in the principles of the "Eternal Hand." Though full details of the "Eternal Hand" remain unknown, Sonia [[They Beat Her!!!|further explained]] that it is based in trust and that ''"the primary relationship in the Hymn of One is the group. Specifically the leaders. You're never attached to one individual. Not even if you love them. It's called "Trust in the Divine Symphony."'' Sonia then concluded with ''"One note in the symphony never cared about what the other note is doing. It just accepts its own song.''''

Several Hymn of One members believe in doing service around the world. A fine example of this would be the [[Lullaby Project]], comprised of several volunteers who believe to be helping low-income mothers-to-be during their pregnancies.

They also revere [[Aleister Crowley]] as an important figure in their system of beliefs, and quote him on their official website (http://www.hymnofone.org).

===Practice===
Members of the Hymn of One are known to do certain prayers, as evidenced by Bree when preparing for the Ceremony, as well as by Steve, who [[War is Over|claimed]] that the writing of Rupert Van Heldon helped him to properly do his prayers.

[[Image:0363SarahSongcirclecropped.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A Song Circle at the Lullaby Project]]
Practicing Hymn of One members are often be seen starting their day with a form of social meditation called a [[Missing Girl Found|"Song Circle"]], where they are supposed to listen to their internal, eternal song.

They are also told that it is their duty is to protect [[trait positive]] girls from [[Spreading the Song|the time they are born until the time they complete the Ceremony]], but have no knowledge of what the Ceremony actually is. This was best demonstrated by Steve volunteering to keep an eye on Kate upon discovering that she was Trait Positve. As he [[The Prisoner|revealed]], ''"Someone at the Hymn of One told me to defend you. I was just doing my job. I wanted to help . . . Everybody at the Hymn Of One cares about Kate. She's trait positive. She needs to be protected!"''

In fact, within the Hymn of One there exists an elite team of twenty men infamously known as [[Watchers]], whose sole mission is to protect Trait Positive girls. They too have no knowledge of the Ceremony or even the Order. [[Proceed with Caution|According]] to [[Alex]], ''"Watchers will absolutely use violence if violence is used first, and if that's the case, watch out! These guys make Marine Corps look like Quakers."'' This fits with what Chris told the [[TAAG]] in the video [[They Belong With Us]]: ''"We're not shy about using force...when necessary."''

Finally, while members of the Hymn of One do not celebrate conventional holidays, they do have a day to celebrate their eternal song; members of the Hymn of One celebrate the [[War is Over|"Day of Eternal Song"]], which takes place every year on April 7th.

===Signifigance of Women===
Trait Positive girls aside, the Hymn of One does strongly value their [[Feminist themes|female members]]. Bree [[Losing My Religion|once said]] that her [[Elizabeth Avery|mother]] was introduced to The Hymn of One by a university professor when she was studying at [[Scotland|Edinburgh]]. She mentions that her mother had been "looking for answers", and believed that she found them with the Hymn of One. Bree's father, however, noted some changes in his wife after she joined. He said that while she used to be introverted, after joining she was the "first to pick an argument." ([[Losing My Religion]] (Apr. 3, 2007)).

From this, we can deduce that not only are [[Feminist themes|female members]] respected, but that they encourage them to stand up for themselves, and more importantly, their religious beliefs.

===Limits on Lifestyle===
Though most members claim that nothing's better than finding one's eternal song, there are certain limits and restrictions that the religion imposes on its members. For example, the Hymn of One strongly discourages its members from practicing acts of indulgence or consuming products that are known to be harmful to one's health:

*Consuming alcoholic beverages, for example, is not tolerated by the Hymn of One, as noted by [[Carl]] turning down a night on the town with [[Chris]] by claiming that [[A Woman's Touch|''"It's against my principles."'']]

*Steve once mentioned that since joinging the Hymn of One, he stopped smoking, [[Out of the Frying Pan...|claiming]] that "Every time I felt a craving, I'd just, I'd listen to my Eternal Song and I'd be all right. I didn't need one."

*Finally, [[Kicked Out - NBR Investigates|according]] to Nikki Bower, chocolate is another "no-no". However, it seems that even the pious Carl has been known to smuggle in the sweet now and again.

It's also interesting to note that abstinence is expected of members higher up within the Hymn of One. This was notably preached by Hymn of One author, Rupert Van Helden (though, like Carl, [[Precious Blood: 2PM|it's been revealed]] his actions don't necessarily reflect what he preaches).

While lower-level members are allowed to date, they do not celebrate marriages. Instead, when two people wish to spend their lives together, they perform an '''Eternal Unity Bond'''. Despite the diffrence in names, Rupert revealed that it's still, [[Mrs Van Helden?|"''a lot like a marriage, yes.''"]]

==Initiation==
[[Image:0020-HoOPamphlet.JPG|thumb|left|175px|A Hymn of One pamphlet]]

The Hymn of one uses a variety of recruitment methods, such as [[Sing With Me|promotional videos]], [[Spreading the Song|fliers]], and [[It's A Cult|seminars]], each claiming that the religion is open to everyone. They promote the idea that one can find eternal happiness by [[Sing Until The End|singing one's eternal song]].

New members typically register with a [[Mates|membership form]], and -- after an unknown amount of time -- are asked to participate in an initiation ceremony. According to Sarah, the initiation involves [[Party of One/Full chatlog|formalizing one's "lyrics" then followed by singing one's song]].

[[Image:KM175-TariqHoObook.jpg|thumb|right|250px|A copy of "Finding the One"]]
===Publicated Works===
To date, only one book based on the beliefs of the Hymn of One have ever been placed in the spotlight. The book, ''[[Finding the One]]'', by [[Rupert Van Helden]] is apparently a popular text to give to new members of the Hymn of One, as witnessed by [[Steve]] giving a copy to [[Kate]] for [[War is Over|Christmas]] and [[Carl]] giving a copy to [[Sarah]] during her [[Party Crashers|initiation]].

''I Have Found the One'' is the second Hymn of One book by Rupert Van Helden. It was revealed to the world when he proposed to Julia.

==Holidays==
Only a few holidays that the Hymn of One practices are known, though there are no doubt many more.

*The Day of the Eternal Song - April 7
*Summer Solstice
*Winter Solstice

==The Hymn of One logo==
The Hymn of One's logo is an upside-down musical symbol known as a {{wikipedia|Fermata|fermata}}. A fermata is used either over or, in the case of the upside-down fermata, under a note. It signifies that a note will be held out for longer than its true value. The actual value of a note with which a fermata is used is up to the conductor of the performer. However, the idea of using the symbol is that the note is held indefinitely. This alludes to the Hymn of One's mantra of "finding your eternal song".

As [[Sarah]] would [[A Woman's Touch|argue]]: ''"They're big into music analogies at the Hymn of One."''

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