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Talk:Subjects Apprehended

2007-03-28T00:22:21Z

Benjerman: /* Will there be anymore? */

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== Audio ==

Has anyone tried taking a recording of the sounds heard and speeding them up to try and get something? Or reversing it? -MHBus

== Transcript ==

There is no discription of the video. I.E. If I wanted to understand the video without actually watching it, I would have no idea what happened except that Bree gasped and said "Jonas?". Also, was Daniel really captured? After all, he's considered chop liver to the order. In [[Miss Me?]] they mock him and say that Bree has "A stronger mind". Plus, you don't see him being captured, like you do Jonas and Bree.--[[User:juniemoon|juniemoon]]

:Feel free to add a description in the transcript. Probably just no one has gotten around to it yet or doesn't know how to describe it.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 12:34, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
::Well, I listened to it a couple times and I never heard "Jonas" like people here at the LGpedia claim. I'm guess that, like you say Jonpro, that people don't know quite how to describe it. -MHBus

:::Okay, I attempted a transcript, but that sort of thing isn't really my thing. If someone could improve it, that'd be great.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:33, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Template discussion / Who is the blogger? ==

Ahh, time to bring up the discussion again. First of all, I don't think {{tl|Aphid}} includes the capability for a cast, probably because there never was one before (exception:[[Miss Me?]]). I'm wondering if we should expand the template to include it. Also, what about credits and categories? Should we start treating OpAphid videos like regular LG15 videos (maybe by using {{tl|Blog4}} with OpAphid as the blogger or something). I'm not sure what's best; just wanted to open up the discussion.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:06, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I think the problem is a different one - is this an OpAphid video at all? The description clearly says "The Order", and it has ''no'' similarity to a previous OpAphid video. While this could, of course, be due to Glenn being replaced, it might as well mean that this is a video from the Order, as ''opposed'' to videos by OpAphid. (Meaning we'd have to add "Order" to Init and create an "order" blog template.)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:11, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:I don't think this is an OpAphid video. It isn't labeled OpAphid. Listing it as such without any proof is wrong. I think it should be treated like a regular LG15 video, only with "The Order" listed as the blogger, or even "unknown" as blogger. I agree there should be a "Order" blog template. [[User:Sappho|Sappho]] 20:45, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:: I think we need to establish what the relationship is between OpAphid and the Order. Daniel was Clearly being held by the Order when the Miss me video was made, But they style of the video was clearly OpAhid style. this video had a different style but not so different as to exclude the possiblilty that it was OpAphid. But I think that Both this video and Miss Me should have Blog4 templates, and the OpAphid template should be reserved for videos that are part of the ARG. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 22:26, 26 March 2007 (CDT)
:::There is no way this is an OpAphid video. Every single OpAphid video that has been posted has been spooky and has had a lot of cut and paste action. This one has none of the hallmarks of her videos. It is a straight up Order video. I think the OP should be changed to ORD. Just my 2 cents. --Guest
:::: every other OpAphid video was made by Glenn Rubenstein. Maybe this wasn't, thats why the style is different. or maybe its because this is a private video just for order memebers, and the OpAphid video style was directed at a different audience. [[User:Misty|Misty]]
:::You're missing something there, Misty: Miss Me has the eye logo intro, the overbright style, the distorted audio, reverse audio, and, most importantly, the outro ''crediting'' it to OpAphid. It is ''very clearly'' an OpAphid video.
:::Subjects Apprehended has ''nothing'' of that, and isn't even credited to OpAphid in the description. I'd say all signs are pointing at Miss Me being from OpAphid, and Subjects Apprehended being from "The Order", whichever faction of them calls themselves that. (As people pointed out in the forums, it might as well be the ''reformed'' people of the Order, e.g. Jonas's parents.)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:13, 27 March 2007 (CDT)
:::: no I wasn't missing that, I was saying there are other explanations than this not being an OpAphid video. If OpAphid was making a private report, do you think it would look like the public vlogs? the purpose is different so the style is different. I'm not saying that this is absolutely an OpAphid video, but I don't think you can say this is absolutely not one -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:17, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

== Will there be anymore? ==

Is this the ending to the LG15 series? Or will they escape from the Order's evil clutches?

Of course there will be more...

Talk:Lonelygirl15 characters

2007-03-18T01:20:50Z

Benjerman: Gemma

== Character categories ==

Okay, with the addition of the "Random Girl" character, I wonder about a number of things. (I was about to make a page for her, but then I realized that if she will not be recurring, all one needs to know about her is on the [[Truth Or Dare]] page.) Does she need her own category on this page? If so, is this the right category? It occurs to me that while "Supporting Characters" says "nor do they have speaking parts in general", in fact, I'm pretty sure this is the first time any non-blogging character has spoken on camera. While she is supposedly only appearing in this one video, in a way she has a status above Bree's parents or Lucy because of this fact. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 18:04, 19 January 2007 (CST)

:I think the Guest characters section is a good idea. Random Girl's role is really quite different than any of the other supporting characters. Plus, who knows... we may be having more such guest characters. That would be interesting! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 12:22, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Should "The Cowboy" be added to this page? Also, should this cowboy have his on page? -- [[User:LGFAN|LGFAN]] 11:02, 5 February 2007 (CST)

:The Cowboy should definitely be on here. For now I just linked him to the video [[The Cowboy]] but since it looks like he's going to be making a few more appearances we should probably create a "The Cowboy (character)" page, or actually, we should move the video to "The Cowboy (video)" as we did with [[Purple Monkey (video)]] and [[Aleister Crowley (Video)]]. Hmm... just noticed our capitalization is inconsistent. Video should be lowercase.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:13, 5 February 2007 (CST)

:That sounds good. I also figured it was too early to make an article for the cowboy, especially since all we know about him is pretty much summarized in "The Cowboy" video. I kinda jumped the gun with Uncle Franklin and that was pointless =(
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:03, 5 February 2007 (CST)

shouldnt we add like a whatever u would call it section for like all the canon people that just post the videos like tachyon and brother?

:Yeah, we definitely need to add them... I guess I'm still sorta in denial that they're canon. Ugh.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:41, 13 February 2007 (CST)
::Amen to that JayBrotha haha. [[User:HyeMew|HyeMew]] 18:43, 13 February 2007 (CST)

:::Hows that? --[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 18:47, 13 February 2007 (CST)

== Gemma ==

Shouldn't Alex replace gemma as a main character by now?

Talk:Gemma

2007-03-16T07:27:36Z

Benjerman:

== Etymology ==

Some interesting info on Gemma's name, which I'd like to eventually incorporate into the page:

ALPHECCA or GEMMA (Alpha Coronae Borealis). One of the very few stars with two commonly used names, Alphecca is the dominant (mid- second magnitude, 2.23) Alpha star of the delightful constellation Corona Borealis, the Northern Crown, a semicircle of stars to the east of Arcturus that truly reminds the viewer of a heavenly crown, the constellation representing the crown of Ariadne. The name Alphecca in fact comes from an Arabic root that alludes to the "broken" nature of the circle, the semicircle that makes the crown. The alternative name Gemma rather obviously derives from the star's central placement in the semicircle, it being the "jewel in the crown."

::What a pretty name, I would have never known. Perhaps then it follows that the word "gem" can also be traced to these origins?[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:47, 6 December 2006 (CST)

:::Raises the question: what does [[Bree]] mean??--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:17, 6 December 2006 (CST)

::mm, i think it got it's name from the original word for jewel. i mena they didn't just make up random words when they named stars.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 00:36, 11 December 2006 (CST)

== RIP Gemma ==

In [[OpAphid]]s video [[The Ends Justify The Means]] an anagram of this appears - could she be dead?

== Gemma as a main character ==

Since Gemma is no longer making videos, should she still be in the main characters section?
:Well, she's like a former main character. She's a main character like Ben Kenobi in Star Wars:A New Hope. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 13:52, 1 February 2007 (CST)

:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. but... maybe you can make a secondary characters thing under the main characters and put like Gemma and P. Monkey and Bree's parents. Besides, star wars is a fixed movie. this is an ever changing ARG (thanks Maddie for pointing that out :D )and yeah. but,sigh, do want you want. :/ Wingless

::See, thing is, even if you see Gemma as "less main" than Bree or Daniel, she's still wayyyyy above Bree's parents, and she's definitely not a [[:Category:Stuffed characters|stuffed character]]. The important thing is that they're the four bloggers the series has had. If more characters became really important, yeah we'd reoganize. But as it stands right now, it seems to me just fine. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 14:24, 1 February 2007 (CST)

:::I don't see Gemma as "less main." I see her as no longer main. There's a difference. How is she "above" Bree's parents? I guess if you're talking speaking part. But who's had more influence on Bree? I think her parents. Yeah, It's all debatable, and I'm not trying to say anyone is wrong. I'm just voicing my thoughts. Wingless.

::::I like OiC's idea, that she remains as-is until another "main character" is introduced. The thing I see as a possible problem is the tendency to over-categorize. For a while we had just "Characters", then we had "Stuffed characters", then "Main characters/Supporting characters", then McPhee became a "Guest character", etc. Gemma just isn't in the same league as the supporting cast, and so moving her would almost require creating a new category. However, the four we have pictured on the front page are truly special, even with Gemma no longer with us (dead or not).
::::Here's a better example: If you go on imdb.com and look up the show [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108757/ ER], you'll see that Anthony Edwards and Eriq La Salle are still listed high on the cast list despite neither of them appearing on the show for about five years. Gemma is still a "main character" in the series as a ''whole'', and I think she should stay that way. I would be quite willing to remove her from the front page listing if another blogger was added to the cast and we needed the space, though. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 16:40, 1 February 2007 (CST)
:::::Why don't we just get rid of all the catagories then? Have Bree on the main page, and a link to a list of ALL the characters, non divided. You don't HAVE to do it, it's just an idea. Wingless.
::::::Actually, that's not a bad idea. I think our current setup is good, but if it starts getting too complicated, going the ''ultra-simple'' route would be nice. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:29, 1 February 2007 (CST)
:::::::yeah. Thanks for reading all that too haha. Wingless.

== The Music from "Gemma [Part I]" to "Gemma [Part IV]" ==
This is perhaps the wrong place to ask about this, but does anyone know who made the music for the [Part I] to [Part IV] Videos and what the Song is called? It sounds kinda dark and dirty, i love it. [[User:145.253.2.234|145.253.2.234]] 10:59, 26 February 2007 (CST)
:Hey there,
:I believe that those videos use remixes of the Tachyon theme that was also used in [[The Human Ransom]]. It's by [[Glenn Rubenstein]], who's also a writer for the series. I think someone at the forum posted a link to listen to the mix used in The Human Ransom, but I'm not sure where. I'll put it here if I find it.
:If you're interested in the music from LG15, there's a page called [[LG15 Soundtrack]] that you should take a look at. It has links to listen (and sometimes download) the songs (all free). We don't have records on the Op or Tachyon music, but we might soon. Let me know if that's something you'd like to help with!
:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:38, 26 February 2007 (CST)
:: Thanks for the replys, i've found the topic mentioned above on the [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6514 Forums] and edited the [[LG15 Soundtrack]]-Page so it refers to the download "What Time Is It (Tachyon Theme - Loud Shirt Mix)". I'm not sure if this is what you (OwenIsCool) had on your mind when you asked me to participate, if it wasn't i'm sorry, tell me how i can be of help. (Note: i just signed up, 145.253.2.234 was me) [[User:GermanME|GermanME]] 04:30, 27 February 2007 (CST)
:::Hi GermanME, and welcome!
:::Thanks for adding the link to the Tachyon Theme. Actually, you found a different link from the one I remembered--the one I'd found was just lifted audio from The Human Ransom. Yours is probably better since it's longer and includes more of the "variations" of the song (if that's the right way to say it). Electronic songs are weird like that... we could eventually have like 10 remixes of the Tachyon Theme and neither is "official" (for lack of a better word).
:::If you like working with the music stuff... well I'd been thinking of adding an OpAphid and Tachyon soundtrack to that page. Is that something you'd like to help with?
:::[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:08, 27 February 2007 (CST)

==The videos that out gemma==

I think that since the Tachyon videos that outed Gemma as working for the order that they should be put on the list. they are obviously a part of the storyline and people should see them to know whats going on and what jonas is talking about in one of his videos. I mean even if the blogger isn't Gemma they should be put there, it could just list somewhere that the account was hijacked by Tachyon & Brother.

Just my opinion.

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 23:33, 1 March 2007 (CST)Michiev

:I'm not following you. What list? '''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])''''' 00:24, 2 March 2007 (CST)

::The Tachyon videos (In my opinion) are there to watch if you want to follow them. The whole point of the videos is that they aren't just watched, you complete the puzzles, and find the videos yourself. If it's made easy, it takes the fun away from it. [[User:Anto687|Anto]] 04:27, 2 March 2007 (CST)

:::But there isn't really a puzzle in the Gemma videos, is there? Of all the Tachyon videos, those more than any exist just to move the plot forward. That being said, I think maybe I see what Michiev is trying to say. You mean we should put them in the list of (semi-)official videos since they were posted on Gemma's account and involve storyline elements? '''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])''''' 11:38, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Yes thats exactly what i meant, i mean they dont have any drop elements or clues to anything involving the ARG so i think that they should be put on the list of videos --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 11:47, 2 March 2007 (CST)

:The [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos]] is a reflection of the official episode numbering. It comes directly from the Creators and is in the order they specified. This list reflects the ordering and videos that are on the left side of www.lonelygirl15.com. Because the Tachyon videos are not in that column (at this point in time) we can't really put them on the list of all videos. The videos are, however, mentioned in the [[Gemma]] article (as is the jacking of her account), featured prominently on [[AphidPedia]] and easy to find from the [[Brother]] and [[Tachyon]] pages and video series. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:52, 2 March 2007 (CST)
::Maybe we ought to have more prominent linkage from the [[Tough Cookie]] page? '''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])''''' 10:19, 5 March 2007 (CST)

Just wondering, but should Gemma really still be listed under main characters? I kinda think that Alex should take Gemma's place under the main characters thing...- Benjerman

Talk:Gemma

2007-03-16T07:27:19Z

Benjerman: