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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

 

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:
*By City - "Images of London."
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== KM Forum Links ==
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

::Oops :X
::My bad, consider it fixed.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== Re-Organization Day ==

Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

== Need help with title! ==

There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

== Vandalism ==
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)

:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)

::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:But it's so annoying having to go around stopping the spam. I just spent a good part of my morning chasing around some spammers. I feel like ''I'' spammed the recent changes page. Lol, if you go look there, there's a whole page of just my edits. It's quite embarassing. I know it would cut a whole bunch of ppl out of the loop, but I kinda wish the username verification system was in place. I'm so selfish. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 04:16, 25 October 2007 (PST)

I don't usually make comments on pages like this, but I thought I'd point a few things out. 
-In the last day, there have been 68 edits by anonymous users. 55 of those edits were made by IPs currently banned for being a vandal. 
-5 of those remaining 13 were reverted. 
 
As far as edits go that actually "improved" this wiki... 
-2 were people reverting poor edits (one was me!). 
-There was an edit that corrected who posted clues to Emma's code. 
-One changed a period to a question mark. 
-Three edits were right after each other, and probably could've just been one. 
-There was an edit to theories about Purple Monkey, which is a funny section. 

--[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 16:38, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

:Ricket makes a good point. Surely Registering for an account can't be that big of a deal? I see a lot more benefits than, er, non-benefits, from requiring a username to make edits. From what I've seen, of the dozens of spammers/vandals banned, only one or two were registered users. But seeing as so many people are against it, maybe we could require some question to be answered? (I don't mean 1+4=?, I mean Basic things that anyone who has ever seen the show would know: "The 'p' in "P. Monkey" stands for..." "The lonelygirl15 is _____'s account", stuff like that? EDIT: Questions are for unregistered users, of course.--[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:09, 30 October 2007 (EST)

::Erm, no. Maybe ''that'' would be a hassle. I mean, ''that'' will discourage even more users from editing. (Laziness factor) I've been up until 5 in the morning on LG15 ('cause I have no life) and about more than 90% of the vandalisms that occur during that time is from non-registered people. I've only seen one registered user vandalize and one non-registered person actually contribute to the LGPedia. I do understand that we are trying to include everyone, and that that's what a wiki is all about, but you gotta decide which is th lesser evil: Cutting out non-registered people out and prevent vandalism, or allow everyone to participate even if that includes vandalism. I doubt that this xwestsidex fellow isn't gonna stop any time soon. And who knows? Maybe other people who aren't xwestsidex will vandalize under that alias, just for the fun of vandalizing. Then the problem will ''never'' go away. I don't think, in my opinion, it's worth it. It'll just make the LG15 experience more enjoyable and less of a chore to edit. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 11:57, 30 October 2007 (PST)

== KMProduction and Sophie Recap vids deleted?? ==

Just wondering, why were my KateModern Production and Sophie Recap videos deleted? The pages, I mean. The KateModern Production videos are very much a part of KM and the Sophie Recap videos were posted on the official KateModernLG15 YouTube account, as well as Sophie's own Bebo. And Sophie is just as much official as Nikki B is on LG. So, why were they deleted? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:40, 30 October 2007 (CDT)

:Looking at the [[Special:Log/Delete|deletion log]], [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] put "see [[Talk:Portal:KateModern]]" (I added the link) as the reason for the deletion. I looked there and there seems to be part of an explanation for why the videos shouldn't be included in the official list, but I'm not sure why they can't have pages. Back in the [[List of New Girl Candidates|new ceremony girl]] phase, there were a lot of videos that got pages because they were related to the lonelygirl15 story. Unless there's an explanation somewhere that I'm missing, I'm for restoring the video pages. But since Zoey deleted them, I'll wait for her response before I do anything.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 13:45, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

::I understand Zoey's point but I still think that since the videos were made by the official KM team, they should at least have pages on here. Don't include them in the list, as they're not canon persay, but they still deserve a page.
::[[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''â¢Silverâ¢'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:50, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

I deleted the KateModern production videos because they are ''not'' official videos by any means, they are just BTS extras for anyone who wants to watch them. Not to mention, they are heavily edited and would be hard to transcribe. There's really no purpose to doing so because they don't futher the story in any way. It's like offering a "script" to the bonus features on a DVD. That seems silly. Why not just link to the bonus features and let whomever wants to enjoy them enjoy them?

About Sophie's videos, I removed them because, they, too, would be hard to transcribe, and are literally just recuts of what already exists in all of the previous transcripts, whereas the lg15 recaps are actual... recaps. But the big deciding factor for me was their lack of placement in the official list of Katemodern videos on the Bebo page.

I know that we created a bajillion pages way back in the day of the "new girls," and I'm on purpose trying to avoid going that route again. It was chaos trying to keep up, and I was the one who ended up taking the grunt of the work. For me, it's way more important to focus on videos that are actually important in furthering the two main story than "extras" that are unnecessary and can be understood by watching the other videos or reading the other transcripts. If someone wants to ''personally'' take responsibilty for the maintenance of the pages, and not just create them and never transcribe them... or start out working on them and then give up (meaning this would be something you'd have to keep up long term, because I do not personally see the point of doing any more than just linking to the pages and will therefore not be responsible for their upkeep), then fine, I will undelete them. But if they are just going to sit there as halfway completed pages, there is no reason for them to be created as pages on here. They aren't official, they don't further the stories, and they can, and most likely ''will'' end up just cluttering the LGPedia if people don't actively take responsiblity for them. So yes, that was my logic, at least. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

:'''PS''' I thought I should note, the recap videos haven't been ''totally'' removed from the LGPedia by any means. They are still listed on: [[Sophie]]. And the BTS videos are still listed on [[KateModern]].

Mi Escuela

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{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = JUL4
| image = JulesMiEscuela.jpg
| caption = My parent's beliefs do not include broadcasting ones "feelings" on the internet.
| blogger = Jules
| date = April 27nd, 2007
| url = {{youtube|Fy7j8IO4ODY}}
| description = Time to talk about school...not my favorite subject.
| forumid = 9445
| length = 1:13
| faction =
| status = Public Video
| location = [[Jules's house]]


| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Amanda Goodfried
| camera = Amanda Goodfried
| vidplay = Amanda Goodfried
| story = Amanda Goodfried
| editor = Amanda Goodfried
| song =
| cast = {{VidChar|Jules}}
| tags = {{tags|callmejules24}}
| Previous = Field Trip
| Next = Hear Me Out
}}
'''Mi Escuela''' is the fourth video in the [[Callmejules24]] video series.

== Transcript ==
'''Jules:''' This blog is about mi escuela. No tengo gusto. As you can tell, my parents make me study a ''lot''. I do enjoy it, but sometimes I wish I was doing something else. Like this! Making videos is ''so'' fun. Like [[He's a monster, I promise!! | the one with my cat]]. It was so silly. But it kept my mind off my studying. But my parents have been seeing me play with the video camera a lot... and they're getting sort of... mad at me. They have really strict beliefs, which doesn't include broadcasting your feelings or anything else on the internet. But I enjoy it, and talking to you guys is so much fun. Since my parents are getting upset at me for using the camera so much, I may have to stop making the videos. And it's not like something I do behind their backs. They're ''always'' around. You see, I'm homeschooled. Lame, I know. So, I've been homeschooled for several years. Which means I don't get to interact with friends or other people like public schools do. So, I guess that's why I enjoy making videos. So, I'm gonna try to make more videos and stay in touch with everyone. But, I guess that's all for now. So adiÃ³s, and good bye.

== Notes ==
*"Mi escuela" means "my school" in Spanish.
*Jules used the phrase "no tengo gusto" incorrectly. In Spanish, "no tengo gusto" means "I have no taste", as in "I have no taste in clothes". If Jules meant to say "I don't like it", referring to being homeschooled, she should have said "No me gusta".
*She is starting to show more similarities with Bree's early videos. For instance, she is homeschooled, and has very strict parents. Bree also didn't tell her parents about the videos.

Lonelygirl15 minor locations

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== The office park ==
{{Locations
| name = The office park
| image = Op 2.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Where Are They Going?]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
The '''office park''' is a location seen in the video [[Where Are They Going?]]

[[Bree]] and [[Lucy]] are seen in the video while [[Daniel]] films.

There has been a lot of speculation that [[Lucy]] could have been taking [[Bree]] to get shots or a medical check up in preparation for the ceremony.

<gallery>
Image: Op 1.jpg|The parking lot
</gallery>
 

== Paul's house ==
{{Locations
| name = Paul's house
| image = Daniels Friends House Picture.jpg
| appearances = *[[I'm Hiding Out]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[I Listened To Daniel]] - {{init|Bree}}
*[[Undisclosed Location]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
After Daniel [[Following The Helper|finds pictures]] of himself on [[Lucy]]'s computer, he goes to stay at his friend '''Paul's house'''. After a while, [[Bree]] joined him there as well. Soon, he and Bree left to go [[On The Run|on the run]], but Daniel left her once she decided to stay with [[Jonas]]. Soon, Daniel found that [[OpAphid]] had planted a camera in his room, and he, once again, returned to Paul's house.

Not much of the house is seen, but Daniel is able to record a video in front of a chain-link fence outside. The fence appears to have triple barbed wire along the top, indicating it may be a secure zone. In addition to that, we hear a lot of traffic noise, suggesting it is beside a major road or freeway.

<gallery>
Image:Daniels Friends House Lamp.jpg|Daniel in front of a lamp
Image:clf.jpg|The chain-link fence
</gallery>

 

== The EPOGEN Warehouse ==

{{Locations
| name = The EPOGEN Warehouse
| image = EPOGEN boxes.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Breaking And Entering]] - {{init|Daniel}}
* [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
}}
After learning that Bree was being injected with [[EPOGEN]], Daniel headed to a '''warehouse''' to learn more about the drugs.

<gallery>
Image:EPOGEN elevator.jpg|The elevator
Image:EPOGEN hallway.jpg|The hallway
Image:EPOGEN number.jpg|The sign over a door
</gallery>

 

== The Coral Tree Cafe ==

{{Locations
| name = The Coral Tree Cafe
| image = Breesdad.JPG
| appearances =
* [[The Unthinkable Happened]] - {{init|Daniel}}
* [[The Last Hours of Bree's Dad's Life - NBR 9]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
* [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]] -  {{init|The Creators}}
}}
Bree and her dad met up at '''The Coral Tree Cafe''' after he gave her a secret message in [[Bree Phone Home]]. Nikki Bower later investigated and identified the location.

 

== The Parking Garage==

{{Locations
| name = The Parking Garage
| image = Manalone.JPG
| appearances =
* [[The Unthinkable Happened]] - {{init|Daniel}}
* [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]] -  {{init|The Creators}}
}}
After [[Bree's parents#father|Bree's dad]] made contact with her, he was shot in a '''parking garage'''. The scene was filmed in the Westfield Valley Fair Shopping Center in Santa Clara, California.

 

== The alley ==

{{Locations
| name = The alley
| image = Brother4.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Gemma (Part V)|Gemma [Part V]]] - {{init|Brother}}
* [[Finding the Cowboy - NBR Investigates]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
* [[Mmm Slurpee - NBR Investigates]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
}}
[[Brother]] assassinated [[Gemma]] as she walked through a deserted alley.

<gallery>
Image:Alley1.jpg|The alley
Image:Alley2.jpg|A barbed wire fence
</gallery>

 

== Pins and Pints ==

{{Locations
| name = Pins and Pints
| image = Pins and Pints Arcade.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Truth Or Dare]] - {{init|Bree}}
* [[Looking For Daniel]] - {{init|Bree}}
* [[Investigating Pins and Pints]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
}}
'''Pins and Pints''' is a bowling alley near [[Jonas's house]] where [[Daniel]] gets drunk in [[Truth Or Dare]]. In [[Hungover]], Daniel mentions that he lost his fake ID, which he thinks may be "outside of Pins and Pints somewhere." It is also where [[Random Girl]] follows Daniel home.

<gallery>
Image:Pins and Pints Outside.jpg|The exterior
Image:Pins and Pints Parking Lot.jpg|The parking lot
</gallery>
 

== The Cowboy's Ranch ==

{{Locations
| name = The Cowboy's Ranch
| image = Cowboy Ranch.jpg
| appearances =
* [[The Cowboy]] - {{init|Bree}}
* [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]] -  {{init|The Creators}}
}}
In [[The Cowboy]], Bree and Jonas followed [[The Cowboy (character)|The Cowboy]] up to his '''ranch''' to try and track down Daniel.

 

== The Human Ransom Location ==

{{Locations
| name = The Human Ransom Location
| image = Order with Bree The Human Ransom.JPG
| appearances =
* [[The Human Ransom]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
After Daniel is kidnapped by [[OpAphid]], Bree decides to give herself up for Daniel's safe return. She heads to '''The Human Ransom Location''' to make the exchange. However, she is saved from having to do [[the Ceremony]] by [[Tachyon]].

<gallery>
Image:Human Ransom Exterior.jpg|The exterior
Image:Human Ransom Staircase.jpg|The escape route
</gallery>

 

== Tachyon's Training Camp ==

{{Locations
| name = Tachyon's Training Camp
| image = 0152-BreeBeingSerious.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Training Hard]] - {{init|Bree}}
* [[Lucy!?!?!]] - {{init|Bree}}
}}
After Jonas [[Aunt Alex|angered Bree]], she headed off to one of '''[[Tachyon]]'s Training Camps''' to learn "how to be a badass".

<gallery>
Image:0156-BreeTalkingToCamera.jpg|Outside a house
</gallery>

 

== Rebecca's house ==

{{Locations
| name = Rebecca's house
| image = 0154Toby2.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Uncle Dan]] - {{init|Jonas}}
* [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] - {{init|Daniel}}
* [[Lucy!?!?!]] - {{init|Bree}} (stills only)
* [[It's Party Time - NBR Investigates]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}} (stills only)
* [[Oh, The Places You'll Go]] - {{init|Jonas}}
}}
Jonas's Aunt [[Alex]] took [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]] to a fashion-industry party, hosted at '''[[Rebecca]]'s house''', with a number of her friends. Since then, many guests at the party, such as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] have been identified as members of [[the Order]].

<gallery>
Image:0154Beth3.jpg|The doorway
Image:0155-DanielAtTheParty.jpg|Daniel in front of a mirror
Image:0197-DanielShrugging.jpg|Outside
</gallery>

 

== The Order Facility ==

{{Locations
| name = The Order Facility
| image = Order HQ Room.jpg
| appearances =
* [[Psychological Torture]] - {{init|the Order}}
* [[Communication Terminated]] - {{init|the Order}}
}}
After [[the Order]] kidnaps [[BDJ]] in [[Vegas, Baby!|Las Vegas]], they take them to a '''secret facility''' in the desert.

<gallery>
Image:Order HQ Bathroom.jpg|The bathroom
</gallery>

 

== La Jolla Health and Tennis Club ==

{{Locations
| name = La Jolla Health and Tennis Club
| image = 0216-TennisClubSign.JPG
| appearances =
*[[Sweating Bullets]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
The '''La Jolla Health and Tennis Club''' is a "chi-chi" club, in or near Beverly Hills, CA. They offer a one-day trial period to perspective members, which [[Jonas]], [[Daniel]], and [[Sarah]] take advantage of after [[Taylor]] discovers that [[Isaac Gilman]] is connected to the club.

In actuality, the scenes at La Jolla are filmed at the [http://www.sportscentertltc.com/ Toluca Lake Tennis Club] in Hollywood Hills, CA.

<gallery>
Image:0216-JonasWorkingOut.jpg|The gym
</gallery>

 

== The Mistress's apartment ==

{{Locations
| name = The Mistress's apartment
| image = 0218-Mistress-Window.jpg
| appearances =
*[[The Mistress]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
'''The Mistress's apartment''' is the home of [[Isaac Gilman]]'s [[The Mistress (character)|mistress]]. Isaac often stayed there as well. The Mistress invited [[Jonas]], [[Daniel]], and [[Sarah]] to her apartment to reveal some secret information regarding Isaac and [[Bree's parents#Father|Bree's dad]].

<gallery>
Image:0218-Mistress-Door.jpg|Room 101
Image:0218-Mistress-Exterior.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>

 

==The Makeshift Lab==
{{Locations
| name = The Makeshift Lab
| image = 0239-SpencerWithTestTube.jpg
| appearances =
* [[The Serum]] - {{init|Spencer}}
* [[No Girls Allowed]] - {{init|Jonas}}
* [[They Broke In!!!]] - {{init|Spencer}}
}}
'''The Makeshift Lab''' is a labaratory that [[Spencer]] takes [[Taylor]] to in the video [[The Serum]]. Spencer tells us that his friend [[Ira Cronenberg]] owns it, and that they are turning it into an office building. It is where Spencer and Taylor experiment with the blood sample that [[Daniel]] got from [[Alex]] in [[Mission Possible]] at the [[Wyman Foundation]]. In [[They Broke In!!!]], we learn that it has a very audible alarm system and a safe - and that ''somebody'' broke into it.

 

== The bookstore ==
{{Locations
| name = The bookstore
| image = 0268-SarahAtTheBookstoreLookingUp.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Happy Holidays LG15 - NBR 8]] - {{init|Nikki Bower}}
*[[Sexy Librarian ;)]] - {{init|Sarah}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
}}
Nikki headed out to a '''bookstore''' to give viewers some ideas for holiday gifts. Later, Sarah got a job in a very similar bookstore. It appears that the store is a Borders.

<gallery>
Image:NBR8 Bookstore.jpg|Nikki B's holiday picks
</gallery>

 

== Jonas's Parents' House ==
{{Locations
| name = Jonas's Parents' House
| image = 0270-Emma-Fireplace.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Remember Them?]] - {{init|LaRezisto}}
*[[A Family Affair]] - {{init|Jonas}}
*[[Eternal Freaks]] - {{init|Jonas}}
*[[Home Invasion]] - {{init|Jonas}}
*[[I Like Being Me]] - {{init|Emma}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
}}
After following some clues by [[LaRezisto]], Jonas was able to track down his parents at their '''new house''', where they live with their daughter [[Emma]].

<gallery>
Image:0270-Emma-Bedroom.jpg|Emma's bedroom
Image:0270-Parents-Dining-Room.jpg|The dining room
Image:0270-Jonas-Parents-House.jpg|The exterior
</gallery>

 

== The "Hot Date" Movie Theater ==
{{Locations
| name = The "Hot Date" Movie Theater
| image = Hot Date concession stand.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Hot Date]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
}}
Daniel took his new girlfriend [[Mallory]] on a "hot date" at a local '''movie theater'''.

<gallery>
Image:Hot Date entry.jpg|The entrance
Image:Hot Date staircase.jpg|A staircase
</gallery>

 

== Los Angeles Union Station ==
{{Locations
| name = Los Angeles Union Station
| image = 0290-Union-Station-Outside.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Last Train To...]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
}}
After [[Sarah]] let [[Emma]] leave [[Arizona]] with her [[Jonas's parents|parents]], [[Jonas]] and [[Daniel]] ran through '''Los Angeles Union Station''' to try and stop her, but ultimately did not make it in time.

<gallery>
Image:0290-Union-Station-Schedule-Jonas.jpg|The schedule board
Image:0290-Union-Station-Tunnel.jpg|A tunnel
Image:0290-Union-Station-Jonas-Train.jpg|A departing train
</gallery>
<gallery>
Image:0290-Union-Station-Platform-Jonas.jpg|The tracks
</gallery>

 

== Griffith Observatory ==
{{Locations
| name = Griffith Obvservatory
| image = 0295-Griffith-Sign.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Robbing the Cradle]] - {{init|Daniel}}
*[[lonelygirl15 Season Two... So Far]] - {{init|The Creators}}
}}
[[Jonas]] and [[Daniel]] followed a clue from [[LaRezisto]] and headed to the '''Griffith Observatory''' to see what [[the Order]] was up to. There, they found [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] bringing a [[trait positive]] [[ceremony baby]] to an [[adopting couple]].

<gallery>
Image:0295-Griffith-Daniel-Front.jpg|The front
Image:0295-CarlAndSoniaDeliveringBaby.jpg|Handing over the baby
Image:0295-Griffith-Balcony.jpg|A watcher on the balcony
</gallery>

 

== Los Angeles Zoo ==
{{Locations
| name = Los Angeles Zoo
| image = 0295-LA-Zoo.jpg
| appearances =
*[[Robbing the Cradle]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
After Jonas and Daniel spotted a [[Watcher]] at the Griffith Observatory, they fled to the nearest public location they could find, which ended up being the '''Los Angeles Zoo'''.

<gallery>
Image:0295-LA-Zoo-Watcher-Running.jpg|Chased by a Watcher
Image:0295-LA-Zoo-Flamingos.jpg|The flamingos
</gallery>

 

== The brick wall==
{{Locations
| name = The brick wall
| image = LG327-Chris.jpg
| appearances =
*[[They Belong With Us]] - {{init|Hymn of One}}
}}
When filming a warning video to [[BDJ|TAAG]], [[Chris]] sat in front of an unidentified '''brick wall'''.

 

== Chris's favorite bar ==
{{Locations
| name = Chris's favorite bar
| image = 0325-Chris-Mallory.jpg
| appearances =
*[[A Woman's Touch]] - {{init|Sarah}}
}}
When trying to get information from [[Chris]] about the whereabouts of [[Emma]], Sarah and [[Mallory]] headed to his '''favorite bar''' to try to catch him with lowered inhibitions.

<gallery>
Image:0325-Bar.jpg|The bar
Image:0325-Bar-Booth.jpg|A booth
Image:0325-Barstools.jpg|Some barstools
</gallery>

 

== Chris's house ==
{{Locations
| name = Chris's house
| image = 0327-Chris House.jpg
| appearances =
*[[What's Going on?]] - {{init|Daniel}}
}}
After leaving the bar, Sarah and Mallory followed '''Chris home''' so they could determine where he lived. The next day, they returned with Jonas and Daniel. From there, they were able to follow Chris to the [[Hymn of One recruitment centers#The Hymn of One Los Angeles Recruitment Center|Hymn of One Los Angeles Recruitment Center]]

 

{{location index}}

Proceed with Caution

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{{Blog
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| number = 0238
| image = 0238-alexisback.PNG
| caption = I really ''am'' sorry about Vegas!
| blogger = Alex
| date = July 23rd, 2007
| url = {{lg15|300}}
| forumid =
| length = 2:31
| description = Glad I could help you get the blood sample. Here are some parting words of advice.
| faction =
| status =
| location = [[Wyman Foundation]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| pa = Ian Schwartz
| directors = Greg Goodfried
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Ross Berger
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, Jan Libby, and Ross Berger
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs

| song =

| cast =
{{VidChar|Alex}}
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==Transcript==
'''Alex:''' (''Alone, speaking to camera'') So, I am on my way to a place that will remain nameless, and I'll probably be there for a very long time, (''Whispers'') I know. Before I go, though, I just--I wanted to clear the air and say that I'm sorry about what happened to you guys in [[Subjects Apprehended|Vegas]]. I take full responsibility for what that Shadow member did to you, and I'm really, really, really, really sorry. Now that my... loyalties have realigned themselves, so to speak, I wanted to give you guys some advice as you begin your new search for [[Bree]]. You're not safe. These men (''Shots of large, thuggish-looking males'') will be following you, if they haven't started already. They're called [[Shadows]], they're the bodyguards of the [[Elders]]. They're physically augmented by a variety of pharmaceuticals; [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates|Modafinil, Anabolic Steroids, Amphetamines]]. They don't need to sleep and they're stronger and faster than the average person. This does come at a cost though, which is that most of them don't make it past the age of 30. Shadow members can be distinguished from other people by the omicron tattoo on their forearm. In the center of the omicron lies an upside down tau. Watch out for these men, they are maniacs. This gentleman (''shots of a Watcher, from "[[Watch This!]]" video'') is a [[Watcher]]. He's part of a 20-member team whose only mission is to protect girls like Bree. They have no knowledge whatsoever of [[the Ceremony]], they've never even heard of it. They're members of the [[Hymn of One]] and they don't know anything about [[the Order]], its intentions, its makeup; they don't even know the Order exists. Be that as it may, Watchers will absolutely use violence if violence is used first, and if that's the case, watch out! These guys make Marine Corps look like Quakers (''Clip of shooting from "[[Communication Terminated]]" video''). Seriously. Watchers are identifiable by this tattoo (''Shot of Watcher symbol tattoo''). It's similar to an Order [[Bree's disk|symbol]], but you guys should know that already. Remember what [[Gemma]] (''chuckles'') told you a long time ago? One last note about the Shadows: they will never leave the side of an Elder unless they're given permission to do so. If that happens, '''be far away'''. They are the Earth's true menace. But, you knew that already, you've already been in their company. I'm, um, I'm sorry that my farewell hasn't been more uplifting but it is--it is imperative that you know the danger that you're getting into. And I just hope that your friendship with Bree is worth it, because (''Pauses'') the danger you're inviting upon yourself could cost you your lives.

==Notes==
*This is the first video blog to be posted by [[Alex]].
*This video reveals the most inside information to date about the HoO and its members, it also hints that [[Bitsie Tulloch]] will probably be leaving the series after this episode as her character, [[Alex]], could be jailed or even executed for her infractions against the Order.
*The drugs that Alex mentions are the same drugs that [[Nikki Bower]] [[Following the Drugs - NBR Investigates|found]] in Ace's motel room.

Tachyon

2007-10-30T12:37:04Z

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:''This page is a reference for the [[OpAphid]] [[ARG]] character "Tachyon". For the [[Strange tags|strange tag]] used by Bree, see [[Strange tags#Tachyon|strange tags]].''
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'''Tachyon''' is the second major player in the [[OpAphid]] storyline/[[ARG]]. Tachyon, which is the code name for an operative who infiltrated the OpAphid organization, is the spokeswoman for most of the opposition to OpAphid's activities. We were first introduced to Tachyon when OpAphid informed us that someone had [[The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful|stolen]] a significant amount of confidential information from one of their information-gathering facilities, and asked us to track the thief for clues about what [[Drop 1 (bowling for light)|information]] had been stolen and where it might be headed. Further search revealed the thief to be Tachyon, a spy for another secret organization known sometimes as The Family, The Bureau, The Ring, or just Mom and Dad.

For reasons unknown to us, Tachyon has not chosen, or has not been able, to go "home" to Mom and Dad. Instead, she has conveyed her stolen information, as well as anything new that she learns or discovers, through her partner, codenamed "[[Brother]]" or "10033." Brother and Tachyon, who are not actually related, communicate through voicemail, [[Tachyon's Profile Updates Archive|YouTube profile updates]], and [[Everything You Need To Play OpAphid#Previous Drops:|drops]], or physical locations where Tachyon leaves items for Brother to recover. It appears that although Tachyon frequently finds Brother irritating, dense, and slow, she does what she can to protect and help him (such as keeping OpAphid from blowing him up, and facilitating his attack on Gemma).

Tachyon herself is well-characterized by her YouTube tagline about her location: "By the time you know, I'll already be gone." She responds to some people who send her messages via YouTube, but her replies can be witty, helpful, vague, misleading, or simply unrelated to the question asked, seemingly on a whim. She dislikes giving out information about herself or her past, although some of her communication has suggested that she might be connected to the family [[Gemma]] talks about in her video "[[They Disappeared...]]," even as the information she leaves behind reveals more and more about her own personal story. Tachyon does not appear to stay in one place for any length of time, if she can help it, and is extremely fond of codes and cryptography, which she often employs to protect the information she distributes.

Tachyon was first discovered by YouTube user LonWpnX who looked up all the [[LG15]] tags. The similar style to OpAphid and the similar story to Bree caught their eye. When the user was subscribed to, the vids were pulled until the release of [[The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful]].

Just like her enemy [[OpAphid]], Tachyon logged into her [[YouTube]] account on May 24th, 2007, leaving this farewell message:

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in awhile, you could miss it.
xoxox,
T
--
Lately, I am not having the easiest time with the situation i am in. But i can handle it,
right? What other choice do I have?

==Identity==
There has been much speculation as to the true identity of Tachyon, especially after the video [[The Human Ransom]]. A [http://youtube.com/watch?v=oCYIyoSCnrc video] posted by xitsMx suggests that Tachyon is indeed [[Cassie]], and some fans also think this could be the case. Others have suggested that she is the girl that [[Gemma]] mentioned in the video [[They Disappeared...]]. Some have even gone so far as to suggest that it is Gemma herself. There has also been more tentative speculation that Tachyon may be [[Nikki Bower]], and although there are some links and similarities, it is a much more abstract thought to prove.

==Other Name Meaning==
Tachyon is also a hypothetical particle that moves faster than the speed of light. In the language of special relativity, a tachyon is a particle with space-like four-momentum and imaginary proper time. A tachyon is constrained to the space-like portion of the energy-momentum graph. Therefore, it can never slow to light speed or below. To date, the existence of tachyons has been neither confirmed nor explicitly ruled out.

== Notes ==
* Tachyon's character as a hacker / special ops girl pokes at typical [[feminist themes|gender roles]].

==List of Videos==

*[[an update of sorts]]
**({{youtube|62fnv5DLNbk|Watch}})
*[[my lonesome update for mid October]]
**({{youtube|bl5AnVlsRwU|Watch}})
*[[URGENT: For My Helper!]]
**({{youtube|lvaw6MsnCTE|Watch}})
*[[They Are Still Everywhere]]
**({{youtube|g7LKU-T2h04|Watch}})
*[[They Are Watching]]
**({{youtube|eqC-bS0Wsio|Watch}})
*[[Mysteries of My Past... Revealed: My Time in Suburbia]]
**({{youtube|cGCGppptJY0|Watch}})
*[[Knock 'Em Down]]
**({{youtube|zKH6l5aI_RY|Watch}})
*[[Gemma? (Part I)|Gemma? [Part I]]]
**({{youtube|N2Z7LhsgBkY|Watch}})
*[[Gemma? (Part II)|Gemma? [Part II]]]
**({{youtube|nIbqBmra6YM|Watch}})
*[[Gemma? (Part III)|Gemma? [Part III]]]
**({{youtube|hYiUpRZtFK8|Watch}})
*[[Gemma (Part IV)|Gemma [Part IV]]]
**({{youtube|kzCtbnY-EgQ|Watch}})

===External links===
*{{wikipedia|Tachyon| Tachyon definition on Wikipedia}}

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Revver

2007-10-30T07:05:51Z

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[[image:revlogo.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Revver's Logo.]]

'''Revver''' is a video sharing website that hosts user-generated content. [http://www.revver.com Revver] attaches advertising to user-submitted video clips and shares all ad revenue 50/50 with the Creators. Videos can be displayed, downloaded and shared across the web in either Apple QuickTime or FLV format.

==History==
Revver was founded by Steven Starr, Ian Clarke, and Oliver Luckett in 2004, and is currently based in Los Angeles. [http://www.revver.com The website itself], however, did not launch until November 2005. The company has received investment from [http://www.bvp.com/ Bessemer Venture Partners], Draper Fisher Jurvetson, Draper Richards, William R. Hearst, III, Comcast Interactive Capital and Turner Broadcasting.

The current version of the site, '''Revver 1.0''' was released in September 2006. This included a new design, user dashboard, a web based uploader and Flash as a video delivery method. Around the same time as the release, prominent [[YouTube]] user lonelygirl15 signed a promotional deal with Revver.

The site has grown slowly in popularity. Shortly prior to its relaunch, only around 20,000 videos were available on the site. By mid-October this number had almost quintupled to 100,000. The site's most popular user, a creator of videos mixing Mentos into Coke, had generated around $30,000.

Revver released its {{wikipedia|Application_programming_interface|API}} in September, 2006. Developers using the API can build a website with all the features on [http://www.revver.com Revver.com] and have complete access to the full Revver library of videos.

==Revenue Model==
Revver is one of the first video-sharing websites to monetize user-generated content through advertising. Revver's system is often compared to Google's Adwords, but for video rather than websites.

The key technology behind Revver is the '''RevTag''', a tracking tag that is attached to videos that users upload. The RevTag automatically displays a static, clickable advert at the end of each video. When viewers click on it, the advertiser is charged and the advertising fee is split between the video creator and Revver.

RevTags are trackable across the web so users are encouraged to share Revver videos as widely as possible. Since the RevTag is part of the video file itself (thanks to the interactivity made possible by Flash-based video players and by the QuickTime format), the technology works no matter where the video file is hosted or displayed, be it at Revver.com, at another website, or in a user's hard drive or portable video player. Therefore Revver's monetization of the video is not hampered by the downloading or sharing of the video file by users.

The only circumstance where the RevTag can fail to load an ad, or to register an ad click, is if the device playing the video is not connected to the internet, in which case a default "Brought to you by Revver" message is shown at the end. Of course, if the video file is transcoded into a different format (such as by uploading it to YouTube or Google Video, or by running it through a program that changes the format of the video file, e.g. into MPEG or RealPlayer), then the RevTag would almost certainly be lost.

The Revver website provides tools for sharing including RSS, podcasting, and embeddable FLV or QuickTime players. This minimizes any added benefits of transcoding. Revver thus makes it easy for creators and fans to embed the video anywhere while still in its original RevTagged version.

Users are further encouraged to share by Revver's affiliate program. An Affiliate is a user who helps to promote their favorite videos (or any videos they believe will become popular), be it through email, sneakernet, peer-to-peer sharing, or posting on their own website or on social-networking webpages. Revver affiliates earn 20% of ad revenue for sharing videos. The remaining revenue for each video is split 50/50 between the video creator and Revver. This is possible because the RevTag in a video file that is promoted by an affiliate contains information not only about the video being played but also about the affiliate.

Creators are able to restrict what kinds of advertisements may be placed at the end of their videos. Similarly, advertisers may choose to request that their ads be shown in videos of certain categories (such as videos that are most popular on certain websites), thus allowing them to better target their desired demographics.

To enable lawful sharing of Revver vidoes, the Revver upload license allows for redistribution under the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 Creative Commons License.

==On Lg15.com==
[[Lg15.com]] used to put videos on the site using Revver altough recently it changed to Youtube.

==Criticism==
One of the complaints about Revver is viewer privacy â in order to download the ad, the video file must contact the Revver servers with information about the video (at least the category, possibly the video ID). In the words of CEO Steven Starr, 'everywhere it's going, it's saying "hey, I'm being watched"' (Oct 17th, 2006 at USC). This conflicts with viewers' privacy expectations when they're playing the video from a source that's not normally tracked (such as their own hard disks).

==Official Lonelygirl15 Accounts==
===Currently Active Accounts===
* [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|LG15]] — {{revver-user|lonelygirl15}}
**This account holds all the "canon" videos uploaded in the LG15 series, regardless of the blogger.
* [[Nikki Bower]] — {{revver-user|NikkiBower}}
**This account holds all the Nikki Bower videos.

===Inactive Accounts===
These are the accounts that were used to upload videos by now-[[canon]] characters of [[lonelygirl15|LG15]] before they reached their canon status. They are no longer used after a character becomes canon, as their videos move to the {{revver-user|lonelygirl15}} account.

* [[Jonas]] — {{revver-user|jonastko}}
* [[Taylor]] — {{revver-user|soccerstar}}
* [[Gemma]] — {{revver-user|gemmers19}}
* [[OpAphid]] — {{revver-user|OpAphid}}
* [[Tachyon]] — {{revver-user|Tachyon}}
* [[Brother]] — {{revver-user|Brother}}

==External links==
*[http://www.revver.com Revver]
*[http://one.revver.com/collections/show/2306 Lonelygirl15 Videos at Revver.com]

[[Category:related websites]]