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File:DanielMainSuggest1.JPG

2008-01-25T12:57:52Z

85.225.255.206: rocodarzel

acelertad
Suggested image of Daniel for [[Main Page]]. 
From [[Purple Monkey Returns]]

[[Category:Images of Daniel]]
[[Category:Images of Jonas's house]]

Gemma

2008-01-25T12:54:36Z

85.225.255.206: libocpast

chiliviricv
{{Person
| name = Gemma
| image = Gemma and wilted rose.jpg
| age = 20
| birthday = April(?) 1987
| youtube = gemmers19
| revver = gemmers19
| myspace = gemmers_19
| actor = [[Jackie Jandrell]]
| first = [[Nut Kills Man]]
| last = [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]]
| color = CornflowerBlue
}}
==Plot Background==
'''Gemma''' a.k.a. '''gemmers19''' was a friend of [[Bree]]'s from when she lived in Nottinghamshire (UK). Bree was particularly good friends with Gemma's dog, as revealed in [[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]]. Since Bree was 12 at the time, and Gemma 15, it is not surprising that they would not be in the same peer group.

Gemma posted 13 vlogs between October 19 and December 6, 2006.

Her first two vlogsâ[[Nut Kills Man]] and [[Living In London]]âwere posted as response videos to Bree, with no mention made as to whether Gemma was a real character in the series. Many fans suspected that she was canon from the start, and in Bree's [[Hi Gemma!]] she was confirmed.

Gemma's parents are members of [[Bree's religion]], but Gemma tells Bree that she had decided to leave the commune and live on her own in [[Gemma's flat|London]].
Gemma's mother and [[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mother]] met at University, after Bree's mother passionately debated in a class discussion revolving around philosopher [[David Hume]]. Gemma also taught Bree a game called "Nut Kills Man", a fictional, allegedly British variation of "Rock, Paper, Scissors."

Gemma has made [[:Category:Gemma's blogs|several videos]] talking about her life in London. Fans speculate that Gemma's monologues about her life in London are [[Double talk|coded]] commentary/advice for Bree's situation. She has given Bree advice about her situation toward her religion. Gemma has said it's hard for her to live away from the community.

In [[Learning Egyptian]], Gemma claims that Bree's religion is not a [[Thelema|Thelemic religion]] at all but a secret society called [[the Order]].

The videos supposedly show [[Gemma's flat]].

==Revelations of Order Involvement==
[[Image:Hackedgemma.jpg|thumb|Gemma's YouTube profile image after her account is hacked by Brother and Tachyon.]]The release of [[Tachyon]] videos [[Gemma? (Part I)|Gemma? [Part I]]] and [[Gemma? (Part II)|Gemma? [Part II]]] revealed to fans that Gemma was in Southern California and that she was interacting with [[Lucy]]. The videos were taken to be a message that Gemma was affiliated with the Order and likely working against Bree's interests. Many fans were reluctant to believe that Gemma had been a part of the Order all along, and wondered whether the Order had caught her sometime after the [[Scared To Go Home]] video. If that was the case, then some of Gemma's earlier advice might have been in good faith.

However, Tachyon's [[Gemma? (Part III)|Gemma? [Part III]]] showed that the location of Scared To Go Home was actually Southern California. In this video, Gemma is also filmed at a pay phone saying "Are you sure the 'D' in APHID is not an option?" Clearly, Gemma was even more deeply involved than previously thought, although it is unclear whom it is that she is working with. From what was shown of her phone conversation, it seems she works with [[OpAphid]]. Whether OpAphid is the Order or a part of it is still unknown. The Tachyon videos were very damaging to Gemma's credibility. All the information and advice that came from Gemma is suspect, as it is very possible that she was working with OpAphid since she first started posting videos.

On January 8th, 2007, Tachyon and [[Brother]] jacked Gemma's YouTube account, adding slightly altered versions of Tachyon and Brother's five Gemma videos, and changing the profile to
<pre>Greetings and salutations!

It's time you all knew the truth about Gemma.

xoxox,

T

P.S. I assume it'll take him awhile, but if you're reading this then my
"brother" 10033 has successfully taken control of this account on my behalf.

P.P.S. For more information about and OpAphid, check out our
videos here under Tachyon and 10033. </pre>

==Death==
In the video [[Gemma (Part V)]], it appears that [[Brother]] aims a gun at Gemma, possibly in an attempt to kill her. Her death appears to be confirmed in the OpAphid video [[The Ends Justify The Means]], where a message in braille appears that anagrams to "RIP Gemma." Like [[Bree's parents#father|Bree's dad]], her death appears to have taken place on Dec. 31st, 2006.

At an ARG-fest in Texas, the Creators were asked about whether or not Gemma was really dead. The answer made a reference to how she was in "Brother's crosshairs" and how that wouldn't be a nice place to be and went on to say that she is "gone". They didn't rule out her coming back one day but they seemed to conclusively state that for now we have seen the end of Gemma.

==Etymology==
The English name ''Gemma'' comes from the Italian name Gemma, which derives from Latin ''gemma'', meaning "jewel."

Gemma is also one of two names for the star Alpha Coronae Borealis (also known as Alphecca). Its name Gemma derives from the star's central placement in the constellation Corona Borealis (the Northern Crown). This connection raises possible links to Bree's fascination with astronomy and to the connections between Bree's religion and astrology (see [[Denderah]]).

==List of Videos==
*[[Nut Kills Man]]
*[[Living In London]]
*[[It's Not Your Decision]]
*[[They Disappeared...]]
*[[Horrid Flatmates]]
*[[Learning Egyptian]]
*[[Don't Trust The Authorities]]
*[[Someone's Following You]]
*[[A Watcher]]
*[[An Awkward Silence]]
*[[Scared To Go Home]]
*[[Daniel Is Right]]
*[[Bad Decisions]]

{{CharIndex}}

[[Category:Seen characters]]

The Unthinkable Happened

2008-01-25T12:53:23Z

85.225.255.206: relbochierer

sitolocav
{{Blog
|name = The Unthinkable Happened
| number = 108
|image = Breesdad.JPG
|caption = Bree's Dad has been caught up in [[cap]] fever
|blogger = Daniel
|date = December 31st, 2006
|url = {{lg15|144}}
|forumid = 4589
|length = 2:53
|description = Daniel here (yeah, yeah on Bree's account... and I put a freeze frame of her so you'd watch... it's important). We caught up to Bree... well... just watch.
| location = [[Minor locations#The Coral Tree Cafe|The Coral Tree Cafe]], [[Minor locations#The Parking Garage|The parking garage]]
|tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|dad|bree|deacon|lucy|order|jonas|jonastko}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Glenn Rubenstein
| editor = Kevin Schlanser
| song = To Thee We Sing (Rachmaninov) by [http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/kyivchamber-praiselord/ Kyiv Chamber Choir]
| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree's parents#Father{{!}}Drew Avery|Greg Goodfried}}
{{VidChar|Bree}}
{{VidChar|Jonas}}
{{VidChar|Daniel}}
{{VidChar|The Deacons{{!}}A Deacon|Kenneth Goodfried}}
{{VidChar|Lucy|Amanda Goodfried}}


| Previous = Roadtrip
| Next = Bree's Dad Is Dead
}}
{{EpHeader|108}} [[Jonas]] and [[Daniel]] catch up with [[Bree]].

==Transcript==
(''Jonas and Daniel are sitting in a car. The camera is pointed at Jonas, who is in the driver's seat.'')

'''Daniel:''' Woah...

'''Jonas:''' You know what, man, I gotta say that in...you know, your guys's videos, you make this [[four-letter words|shit]] seem... fun?

(''Daniel and Jonas laugh. The camera turns to Daniel's face.'')

'''Daniel:''' Oh yeah.

(''Jonas leans in, towards the camera, and makes a strange noise. The camera turns towards Daniel.'')

'''Daniel:''' What're you doing?

'''Jonas:''' I don't know man, I'm just so frickin' bored. You know, we should've got coffee or donuts, on a stakeout you're supposed to have donuts, right? Isn't that--?

(''Daniel laughs, and the camera turns back to Jonas.'')

'''Jonas:''' At least we'd have something to eat.

'''Daniel:''' We need some donuts, man.

'''Jonas:''' Do you think that we're gonna make it back by New Year's?

'''Daniel:''' You got a--you got a party to go to?

'''Jonas:''' No, I don't have a party, but I, you know, I like the song.

(''Jonas hums "Auld Lang Syne", and Daniel laughs.'')

'''Jonas:''' I bet she knows. Last year, I, uhh, put on a Santa hat--

'''Daniel:''' Yeah?

'''Jonas:''' --and uhh, I think my left sock, and I skated around my buddy's--

(''Daniel laughs.'')

'''Daniel:''' (''Still laughing'') Shut up, dude. Seriously.

'''Jonas:''' The police showed up. I swear man. Look, I am not lying. I would not lie about--

'''Daniel:''' Oh [[four-letter words|shit]]!

(''The camera shows Bree and her father leaving a building. They sit at a table outside. The camera shows the side of Jonas's head.'')

'''Jonas:''' Let's just go get her. She's right there. Let's go get--

'''Daniel:''' Wait! Dude, they're talking. Hang on.

(''The camera turns back to Bree and her father.'')

'''Jonas:''' Why? Who's she--

'''Daniel:''' That's her dad, man. He looks freaked out. Can't just...barge in there.

(''The camera is now looking out the windshield, as Jonas drives after them.'')

'''Daniel:''' Okay, so, Bree and her dad-- They just jumped in the car, they took off. I just want to find out where they're going.

(The camera shows the side of Jonas's head.'')

'''Jonas:''' Do you even know where we are right now?

'''Daniel:''' No. No I--

'''Jonas:''' I have no idea where we are. You sure that that's her dad? I mean--

'''Daniel:''' That's her dad!

'''Jonas:''' (''muttering'') God dammit.

(''The camera shows the car Bree and her father are in again. Cut to the car going around a parking garage. The car drives around. The camera shows Jonas.'')

'''Daniel:''' Where are they going?

(''The camera shows the car driving a little more. Cut to the car parked near the roof.'')

'''Daniel:''' Okay, There's their car.

'''Jonas:''' Cool. Good.

'''Daniel:''' Now we just gotta wait.

'''Jonas:''' Wait?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah.

(''The camera shows Daniel.'')

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, so, we're just sitting around now.

(''The camera sees Bree and her father walking towards their car. A car pulls between them and their car. The camera begins shaking as Daniel and Jonas run towards them. Two people get out of the car, and move towards Bree's father.'')

'''Daniel:''' Bree!

(''To Thee We Sing (Rachmaninov) by [http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/kyivchamber-praiselord/ Kyiv Chamber Choir] plays. Bree runs into Daniel's arms, they turn around, and run back to Jonas's car. A gunshot is heard. Bree screams. The camera turns towards Daniel, who is dragging Bree. All three get into the car.'')

'''Daniel:''' Go, go, go, go!

(''The car drives out of the parking garage, and the screen turns white.'')

==Notes==
* What actually happened in this episode ignited much speculation. See [[What unthinkable happened?]] for an attempt at a logical reconstruction from what we know.
* This is the first video to make use of [[the thumbnail trick]].
* On [[Revver]], the description is only the last sentence of the YouTube description. ("We caught up to Bree... well... just watch.")
* Just as Daniel and Jonas get out of the car, there is a faint thumping sound, which could be heard as a [[helicopter]], possibly belonging to [[the Order]]. The sound then fades to make way for the backing music.
* The garage scene was shot at the Westfield Fashion Square in Sherman Oaks, California. The Sunkist building can been seen across the street.
* During the first part of the video, Bree and her dad are sitting outside the [[The Last Hours of Bree's Dad's Life - NBR 9|Coral Tree Cafe in Encino]], as discovered by [[Nikki Bower]].
* Bree's dad was killed in this video. Gemma and Isaac Gilman also died on that day.
* This video is still on [[Gemma]]'s profile.

Talk:Main Page/Archive from Jan-Feb2007

2008-01-25T12:50:46Z

85.225.255.206: alvarzelliro

eltnodom
== New Main Page ==
I'm taking the new Main Page live over the next couple minutes. Hooray!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 17:05, 4 January 2007 (CST)
:And it's up! Yay!--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 17:15, 4 January 2007 (CST)
::Nice! I fixed a couple minor errors I noticed. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 18:29, 4 January 2007 (CST)

:::The new main page looks great! I'm very happy all of our hard work paid off. One thing I noticed... the latest developments column is a bit longer, which is invariably going to happen when we have longer video discriptions. However, it's way longer. Maybe we should take off one of the latest videos and add it to the list at the bottom ("Recent Videos"). For instance, we could take off [[Bree's Gone]] and add it to the list, to even it up a bit. I'd do it, but I wanted to make sure nobody objected. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 21:29, 4 January 2007 (CST)

::::Hmm... strange. They line up just right in IE, but in Firefox, the latest developments column is a little bit longer (although only a tiny bit in my browser). That's the general idea behind the Main Page, to move videos into that Recent Video list once the page starts getting too long. By all means, Andy, go ahead and move Bree's Gone down.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:49, 4 January 2007 (CST)

== Further agreement on current style ==

Okay, so we like five video links at the bottom. How many recent vids with pics at the top? I liked four, but it was recently changed to three. Can we get a consensus? Also, what do people think about my editing down of the description to make a better fit? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:22, 8 January 2007 (CST)

:I like the shorter descriptions, if for no other reason than it allows us to keep an extra video on display. I don't think it's necessary for the descriptions to be the official video description. I only used the same variable name so that it could be quickly and easily copied from the video pages. Also, is that OpVid template tested and ready? If so we should add a usage note where it says how to add a new video.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:23, 8 January 2007 (CST)
::I think it (OpVid) looks good, but I haven't heard any feedback yet. Should we post links to the new "Gemma?" videos, or treat them like old videos reposted?

::Actually, I feel like the creators are giving us a hard time. Every time we get things figured out, they throw us a curve ball like this. For instance, is [[The Unthinkable Happened]] a Bree or Daniel video? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:29, 8 January 2007 (CST)

::: it would be Daniel and Jonas --[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 15:39, 8 January 2007 (CST)

::::Actually, I think the craziness on Gemma's account is the perfect opportunity to use the event template. As for [[The Unthinkable Happened]], it's just a call we should make. My thoughts -- although it was posted to the lonelygirl15 account, it was Daniel who wrote the note and did the editing. Hence a Daniel video, and this should be explained in the notes to [[The Unthinkable Happened]]. I don't see any reason to label it a Jonas video as well. Although Jonas was in the video, he appears to have neither posted nor edited it. Besides, having a video from two people doesn't work with out Blog3 template. As for the op template, I thought I had commented (although I see now that i didn't) but I like it a lot and think we should use it.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:51, 8 January 2007 (CST)

::::: I agree--[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 15:58, 8 January 2007 (CST)

== Video column ==

I see Brucker made the change I was just thinking about. I'm aware that the Main Page displays differently in different browsers, but for me in IE or Firefox, having only three videos is always ''way'' too few. Before Brucker added the fourth video, there were about three inches of empty space. Is that fourth video making the video column too long in some browsers?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:59, 15 January 2007 (CST)

:Right now I see 4 latest developments (back to PMonkey returns) and 5 recent vids (all the way back to Roadtrip) and it fits perfectly in my crappy IE7. =)
 [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:03, 15 January 2007 (CST)

::You know the issue is probably less a matter of which browser than it is a matter of what monitor settings you use. The other night, I checked in here on a different computer and hardly recognized my personal page because the width was different. Maybe we need a "Best viewed at 1024x768" disclaimer?--[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 16:41, 15 January 2007 (CST)

:::Here's the problem with four videos... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/TheNunOwnedGoat/Screenshots/Mine/LGpedia_Error.jpg With three videos, the latest developments column is short, yes, but it matches up and there is just empty space. However, when the latest developments column is too long, it creats this ugly gray space (seems the bottom border is becoming too wide) to make up for it. If we want to keep four videos, then we need to get rid of that ugly gray space and make it match the color of the featured articles box. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 16:44, 15 January 2007 (CST)

::::Wait, so right now the video page is doing this for you, Andy? Because for me there's over an inch of empty space at the bottom of the video column. That gray box at the bottom of your right column is interesting... I'll experiment on the old redesign page to see if I can fix that. I guess that'd be the best solution for everyone, right?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 17:08, 15 January 2007 (CST)

:::::Oh, I see the same thing as Andy. I just hadn't noticed it until he pointed it out. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:14, 15 January 2007 (CST)

::::::I think I fixed the problem with the gray space that Andy and OIC noticed. Please let me know if the problem is taken care of now. Just add a bunch of dummy text to the right column and hit "show preview" if you need to.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:06, 16 January 2007 (CST)

:::::::Yeah, I think it's fixed now. Basically, no matter how long I make the right-hand column, the left one matches it and there's no grayspace. Good work! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 13:25, 17 January 2007 (CST)

==Spam attack?==
This talk page has been hit a half dozen times by a spam bot. The bot will continue to edit this page. The only way to really stop it, is to protect the page. I hate to protect the Talk:Main Page, but I don't really know what else to do. The way the spam bot works is it always attacks the same page from a different IP address. If we protect this page, maybe we can create sort of an FAQ for where noobs can ask questions? And, of course, registered accounts can still ask questions here? Does that seem okay, or does anyone object to protecting this page?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:56, 27 January 2007 (CST)

:No Objection here--[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 10:22, 27 January 2007 (CST)

::I was actually thinking we'd need to protect this when I reverted it. Of course I really hate to see the main page talk protected as thats where the shy/new unregistereds are most likely to post. I think we don't have a choice. Can we try protecting the page for a week and then reverting it back to unprotected? Will that even make a difference or will the spam bot still be hitting after a week? Either way.. I also affirm the move to registered users only for this page. --[[User:LordGreystoke422|LordGreystoke422]] 10:36, 27 January 2007 (CST)

:::A link on the main page directing new users to a page where they can ask questions/post would probably be helpful. The spam bot might eventually pick up on it, but possibly not. --Zak (not registered) 11:08, 27 January 2007 (CST)

::::::::Yeah, I'd noticed this page was having problems, but two attacks in a row like that? I think that's reason enough to protect it... even if the newbies have to make an account to post on it. Could we maybe just put a header on top of this page inviting people (again) to create an account so they can post here? [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 11:49, 27 January 2007 (CST)

== Vid pics ==

Is there a definite rule about the pictures that represent the videos on the main page, being the same as on their own page? Just wondering, 'cause someone posted a different one for the latest one... ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 22:34, 30 January 2007 (CST)

:No, there's no rule. And there's no rule that the Description has to (or even should be) the same as when they post the video. Generally, it's just been easier to use that boilerplate description and image.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:38, 30 January 2007 (CST)

::I think it's nice to have some variety, and also, certain pictures won't work as well in the smaller format. I think whoever decided on the different picture than I put on the transcript page made a good choice. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 11:19, 31 January 2007 (CST)

== Gemma ==

Does anyone else think that maybe it's time to take Gemma off the list of bloggers on the main page? --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 14:08, 8 February 2007 (CST)

:We discussed this somewhere ([[Talk: Gemma|found it]]), and I don't recall reaching a consensus. My argument was that while Gemma is not ''currently'' a main character, she has been a main character in the series overall. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:26, 8 February 2007 (CST)

:I suggest that we wait and see what happens in the next couple episodes. We're probably looking at the resolution of some of these loose threads. If she's confirmed as dead then I'd agree it's time to remove her. I'm not sure how to redesign the characters box though.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:38, 8 February 2007 (CST)
::That's easy enough, isn't it? Just remove her. Actually, I'd been considering altering the picture to have the text "R.I.P.?" in front of it.--[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:40, 8 February 2007 (CST)

::I dunno. If we remove her the other pictures will be awfully big for my tastes. Either that or we'll have a big chunk of white space. I tried it at the old redesign page: [[Main Page/redesign]]. But I think we're potentially looking at Tachyon or Brother or somebody becoming a main character... And that seems better, to add one of them ''if'', of course, the storyline merits. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:47, 8 February 2007 (CST)

:::Fiddled around with it. I'm not worried about bigger pictures ''or'' white space, or for that matter a solution somewhere in between. I think it all looks good. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:53, 8 February 2007 (CST)

::::Personally, I think the top one (with the bigger pictures) looks great, if we decide to take Gemma off. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 14:48, 9 February 2007 (CST)

:::::How does it look?--[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 20:51, 13 February 2007 (CST)

::::Sorry, Iris, but I don't think we agreed to take the picture off yet. I'm sorta thinking it might be necessary to enlarge OpAphid's presence on the Main Page. Perhaps incorporating OpAphid or Tachyon into the character boxes?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:13, 13 February 2007 (CST)

:::::I disagree with that, just because I feel we should keep OpAphid in a seperate part of the LGpedia (i.e. The [[AphidPedia]]). My reasoning for this is the fact that keeping up with OpAphid is supossedly not required to keep up with Lonelygirl15. For instance, I never hopped on the bandwagon and haven't tried to get caught up because it wasn't one of those things were you could just "hop in." Long story short, I doubt I'll be following OpAphid anytime soon, like many other users I'm sure, so from my viewpoint, it's best to keep the LGPedia focused on... well, LG. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:59, 13 February 2007 (CST)

::::::sorry i got ahead of myself.Not a bad idea Jay..--[[User:Iris2009|Iris2009]] 14:50, 14 February 2007 (CST)

==OpAphid==
I think OpAphid needs more prominence given recent developments, but balk at the idea of incorporating the characters from that series into the lg15 info fully unless it becomes fully integrated. I know that we've all been surprised by how much the two story lines have recently overlapped, but my hope is that the Creators will make good on their promise to make OpAphid optional viewing. I watch them, but I honestly don't understand them. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 16:10, 14 February 2007 (CST)

I dont understand them also. --[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 16:11, 14 February 2007 (CST)

:Furthermore, in response to what Jay said above, we face the problem of not having definitive pictures of either one of Op or Tachyon, and no picture at all of Brother. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 17:35, 14 February 2007 (CST)

i got a idea, maybe use i picture from a video that says there name on it?
Like when tachyon plane landed, it said tachyon, see what im saying?--[[User:Iris2009|TJ Marsh]] 17:42, 14 February 2007 (CST)

== Newby links on main page ==

What do you think about putting links to The Story So Far and [[Lonelygirl15Recaps]] on the main page? Or the recaps as a featured article (though it would need some sprucing up first)? Coming to the main page of the lgpedia as a newby probably still feels overwhelming despite all the great improvements here as of late, unless i'm missing something myself. The LG15 recap vids now go thru Oct 30, which is the 1st 1/2 half of the videos. I only make this as a suggestion. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 12:36, 13 February 2007 (CST)

== Daniel picture ==

Hi all, 
I know it's hard to get a screencap of Daniel. He's either behind the camera, or holding it two inches from his face. However, that hasn't deterred me from trying to find a better picture for his thumbnail on the main page. I looked through some videos and found good "photo ops" in [[Purple Monkey Returns]] and [[For The Ladies]]. The screencaps I got are below. They would still need to be cropped and tried out in [[Main page/redesign]]. However, I first wanted to get a sense of what pictures people liked best, and whether anyone thinks that they are more flattering than the current one. The thumbnails for my suggestions are below. If you know of any good pictures I didn't come up with, add them to the gallery for others to consider. Thanks! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:44, 18 February 2007 (CST)
<gallery>
Image:DanielChar.jpg|Current image
Image:DanielMainSuggest1.JPG|Option 1
Image:DanielMainSuggest2.JPG|Option 2
Image:DanielMainSuggest3.JPG|Option 3
Image:DanielMainSuggest4.JPG|Option 4
</gallery>

===Testing===
This is for checking the Daniel pics against the Bloggers table. I'm going to go ahead and say my vote's on Option 3 for the time being. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:57, 18 February 2007 (CST)
{| align=center style="width:380px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
|-
|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#1E5DAA;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
|-
| style="background:white"|[[Image:BreeChar.jpg|95px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:DanielMainSuggest3_cropped.JPG|95px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:GemmaChar.jpg|95px]]
| style="background:white"|[[Image:JonasChar.jpg|95px]]
|-
|align=center style="background:#1E5DAA"| '''[[Bree|Bree]]'''
|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Daniel|Daniel]]'''
|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Gemma|Gemma]]'''
|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Jonas|Jonas]]'''
|-
|colspan=42 align=center style="background:white; color:black"|'''[[Characters|Full list of characters]]'''
|-
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I've cropped two of the images for trying out in the table. There's '''[[:Image:DanielMainSuggest1_cropped.JPG|Option 1 cropped]]''' and '''[[:Image:DanielMainSuggest3_cropped.JPG|Option 3 cropped]]'''. I like both but I still think 3 is better. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:34, 20 February 2007 (CST)

I like the third, myself, and would love to see a different shot of danny on the front page. My only thought is to crop it to the same shape. See how it appears to have white bars on the other three pictures? Daniel sticks out like a sore thumb if you don't. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 00:45, 21 February 2007 (CST)

:Thanks for your input, Cartreuse =) I'll fix the cropping. As for the rest of you... does nobody care about Danny? Speak now or forever hold your peace... [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:20, 25 February 2007 (CST)

::It's a good Daniel picture, I always wanted one of him smiling bigger, so that's much better. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 12:13, 26 February 2007 (CST)

:: I like option 3 as well --[[User: Michiev|Michiev]]

:: Any option we chose, the pic needs to be changed soon. The one we have up there now is very flattering or representative of Daniel. Option 3 seems to be the favorite and I like it too. But, with the possibility of Gemma coming off the "official" list soon (pending consensus), maybe we should wait on messing with the blogger pics. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:35, 6 March 2007 (CST)

==Image page==

I don't exactly know where else to ask this question, but before i found a page full of images used on the LG pedia. i cant seem to find that page again, If anyone could help me i would be really happy :D

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 12:08, 2 March 2007 (CST)

:[[:Category:Images]] is an index of all the different images we have available. For the most part they are sorted by character. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 12:18, 2 March 2007 (CST)