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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.

For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].

[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]

 

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==No uploading??==

The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".

::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
::P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?

::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)

==Missions Page==
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox

:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Show Template?==
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Any thoughts at all? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?
:::We. Don't. Care.
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==LGPedia: pages==
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:Hello? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

==I Finished the Missions Page==
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

==Potential naming problem==
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
*00XA-blablabla
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).

==Portals==
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

== Maddison Atkins ==

Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

== Relationships ==

Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

==Location pages for KM==
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:
*By City - "Images of London."
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

== KM Forum Links ==
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

::Oops :X
::My bad, consider it fixed.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

== Re-Organization Day ==

Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

== Need help with title! ==

There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)

== Vandalism ==
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)

:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)

::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)

::xwestsidex is a vandal who is mad at the LGPedia admins for denying him freedom of speech and expression..and banning him because he was humorous...one step we could take to ending the vandalism is apologizing to xwestsidex for denying him freedom of speech that one time. (the "have a fun week off" comment by Jonpro) Then he will definitely stop Vandalizing, im sure!

:::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)

:But it's so annoying having to go around stopping the spam. I just spent a good part of my morning chasing around some spammers. I feel like ''I'' spammed the recent changes page. Lol, if you go look there, there's a whole page of just my edits. It's quite embarassing. I know it would cut a whole bunch of ppl out of the loop, but I kinda wish the username verification system was in place. I'm so selfish. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 04:16, 25 October 2007 (PST)

I don't usually make comments on pages like this, but I thought I'd point a few things out. 
-In the last day, there have been 68 edits by anonymous users. 55 of those edits were made by IPs currently banned for being a vandal. 
-5 of those remaining 13 were reverted. 
 
As far as edits go that actually "improved" this wiki... 
-2 were people reverting poor edits (one was me!). 
-There was an edit that corrected who posted clues to Emma's code. 
-One changed a period to a question mark. 
-Three edits were right after each other, and probably could've just been one. 
-There was an edit to theories about Purple Monkey, which is a funny section. 

--[[User:Ricket|Ricket]] 16:38, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Spencer

2007-10-29T08:36:36Z

75.38.63.225: Spencer is gay...thats all there is to it!-xwestsidex

==MySpace==
I think it's safe to assume that the [[MySpace]] account {{myspace|la_labrat}} is official for Spencer, since [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=419506&highlight=#419506 Daniel told us all to message him]. I can't imagine the C's telling us all to bombard some fan-kid. Unless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and add the info from the MySpace to his character page. We can always remove it if we find out later that it's not offical... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 24 June 2007 (CDT)
:I just added it, but since we don't know much else about this kid, I decided not to put in a Person box just yet.--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:55, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

== LOLOMGWTF Is Spencer on the REAL Neutrogena website?! ==

OMGOMGOMG! My mind is going crazy- Spencer is the ACTUAL "employee of the month" at the ACTUAL Neutrogena website with ''''''no qualifications that it's with a TV show!'''''' (other than a link to LG15.com, very slyly integrated) Is this real? Maybe a product-placement deal they worked with Neutrogena? Anyone who understands why I see this as totally nuts, blurring the lines between TV and the real world, please reply with some sort of explanation!!!
[http://www.neutrogena.com/spencer.asp] (notice all the NORMAL Neutrogena stuff links there, too!)
[http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/06/spencer-as-neutrogena-employee-of-month.html]
[http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/06/neutrogena-story.html]
--[[User:DoubleG|DoubleG]] 00:15, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
: Hey, hey, calm down! If you read the [[Neutrogena]] page, it'll tell you that yes, this is a deal between LG15 and Neutrogena. It is cool though! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:36, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

== Spencer dead ==

I think Spencer is probably dead. Just a theory. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 22:51, 17 September 2007 (CDT)

:Oh shush. Spencer is in Switzerland, silly! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:25, 17 September 2007 (CDT)

::U shush. He's in amsterdam experimenting with gay men because he won't get judged for it over there.

Talk:Back to Work

2007-10-29T08:34:48Z

75.38.63.225: LOL!!!-xwestsidex

==Goodbye Spencer!==
A character I originally really disliked actually turned into a great little addition to the series. I hope this isn't the end of Spencer though :( [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 01:59, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:Yeah, I didn't care much for Spencer to begin with either . . . now the little guy has grown on me! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:00, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:: It seems like they're just going through and showing how every character has been affected by the events of the last season, building up to something really big happening, and then they're all going to be pulled together again. At least I hope so anyway, I want the TAAG to get back together and start rockin' again!!! I'm pretty sure this isn't the end of Spencer, or any of the remaining (with the exception of Bree) main characters. --[[User:SidM|SidM]] 03:47, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
::: I know, that was awfully sentimental to be just another filler... I wonder if his contract with LG15 is up or something and this really is goodbye. He's such a sweetie... I will certainly miss him if that's the last we see of him. I hope they do call him next time around. We need his adorkability to lighten things up! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:09, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
:::: Haha, "Adorkable" that is an amazing contraction! You have a point about this video being too sentimental to be filler, then again though a lot of videos made by the major characters lately have had the same tone and I can't see them going away. I guess we'll just have to wait and see... --[[User:SidM|SidM]] 01:24, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
::"Adorkability" ... nice --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:43, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

== Everyone!!!!!! ==

New
Rezisto
video!
Somebody
post
it.

==Wanna know how I know Spencer's gay?==

Someone took him camping, told him to pitch the tent for him, and he started jacking off.

Talk:They Broke In!!!

2007-10-29T08:28:59Z

75.38.63.225: AHAHAHHAHA!!! DAAMN!!-xwestsidex

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:46, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== Blogger ==

many videos are posted under her account so ill take that off, they hacked into it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:21, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

::well nevermind i wont, unless someone else wants to--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:23, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

:::The point is, both [[The Serum]] as well as [[No Girls Allowed]] were clearly posted under different accounts - so what we have is a video saying "Uploaded by lonelygirl15 - I guess someone found our location . . . we're going underground.", and the knowledge that the others are using their own accounts.
:::Don't get me wrong - I'm one hundred percent sure this isn't supposed to be uploaded by Bree. But ''it's not our fucking fault'' if the Creators decide to open a giant, gaping plot hole.
:::They decided to make it look like this was uploaded by Bree. Period. We all know it's bullshit and it doesn't fit in, but that's how it is, and we can only document what they say.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:33, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

::calm down no need to cuss but your right i see what your saying--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:01, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
:::a) The swearing was not directed towards you, but the Creators
:::b) Swear-words in my posts are no indicators whatsoever of how agitated I am. They're part of my normal speech-patterns. ;)
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 21:15, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

:I agree, Renegade. This is clearly supposed to be one of those times when the characters use the LG15 account because "something 'big' happened, and we put it on Bree's account to ensure more people see it." But since they didn't leave any sig from Daniel, Spencer, etc like they usually do, we're left with the crazy possibility that Bree may have posted it.
:However, it is clear from [[The Mistress]] that they changed the password to the account to prevent the "Hymnanized Bree" and the HoO from putting recruitment videos up. So personally, I'm fine if this was changed to a Spencer vid (as he did the filming), with a note saying on which YouTube account it was really uploaded (which is already up, I beleive).
:But then again, I'm fine also that we keep everything as is if everyone's fine with it, because we "can only document what" actually happens. Either option is an accurate one, IMO, we just merely choose ''how'' to document it--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:04, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
::Problem: We have no proof it's a Spencer vid. Not only have characters posted videos recorded by others in the past, but this is also not exactly the editing style displayed by Spencer in the past. Sure, one can argue now that the situation is different, they're on the run, blablabla, and I actually agree - very most likely, this is a Spencer vid. But as you yourself noted, the comment is unsigned this time - other than the fact that Spencer recorded, ''we have no clue whose video this is supposed to be''.
::Therefore, I oppose changing the current ownership-setup until the Creators come forward and give a definite statement.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 21:15, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
:No big -- waiting for more info's most definitely the best course for now. That's why I decided not to edit the page just yet. (hopefully we'll actually get the info -- odds are, not :P) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

==Wanna know how I know Spencer's gay?==

He thinks a "hot rod" comes from Ron Jeremy

Talk:The Serum

2007-10-29T08:27:31Z

75.38.63.225: HAHA!-xwestsidex

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:11, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
</center>

== A better vid ==

Surprisingly one of Spence's better vids. Kudos to the first person who can make a Userbox saying "The User's ''not'' paranoid -- they're legitamately being followed!" :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
:I like that line. Kinda like "Enemy of the State"'s tagline of "It's not paranoia if they're really after you." --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

Nice use of "harbinger," I haven't heard that word since I took the SAT.
:True, that (Glad THAT's ancient history) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:23, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:Thanks. I have a random vernacular, but I like words that help you stay succinct without annoying verbiage. (Now how's THAT for more SAT words? ;) but for real, I even used the word "vernacular" earlier today when telling a friend a certain word she thought I said wasn't in my vernacular) --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Ugh ==

I've missed so much in the past four days xP And it didn't help that I got a voicemail saying they were putting up the mission video RIGHT when I walked into my hotel room the first day. I think I'm caught up now :D Love, [[User:-R-|'''Randy''']] ([[User talk:-R-|Say Wha'?]] | [[Special:Contributions/-R-|Whachu Doin'?]]) [1:37 AM, Central Daylight]

== Ira? ==
Who's Ira??
:Ira Cronenberg is the friend that Spencer mentions owns [[Minor locations#The Makeshift Lab|The Makeshift Lab]], where Spencer and Taylor made this video. Ira's father actually owns the lab, and they're turning it into an office space. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|  '''•Silver•'''  ]] [[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|Contribs]] 13:35, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

==wanna know how I know Spencer's gay?==

His school administration made him dress in the girls locker room for Phys ed.

Talk:Mission Possible

2007-10-29T08:24:15Z

75.38.63.225: aahahahhaha-xwestsidex

== TCC!!! ==

What did I tell ya?! Awesome. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JBSHRYNE]]''' 01:50, 23 July 2007 (CDT)
:I totally doubted it, but it was her! ^^--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
What IS "The Clarion Call"?
:It's the offcial name of the resistance.
::I was confused on what a "clarion" was.

==transcript==
<rant>There are TOO MANY PEOPLE editing the transcript! I had a good version but someone was faster than me... there are still a bunch of errors to fix but every time i try to, it's been edited again! aaaahhhh!!!!! i'll just come back later, then. or lets someone else deal with it. </rant> sorry for that. wikipedia can get annoying. sigh. --[[User:Katiej88|Katiej88]] 14:35, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

==Notes==
I dunno what to do about it, but there seem to be two conflicting notes, one saying the guard is definately gay (comparing him to the guy who hit on Jonas), one saying the guard may not be gay. I agree; too many cooks in this kitchen!
:The guard is definitely gay, dude! {edited for offensive language} --[[User:Xwestsidex|Xwestsidex]]
::With something like LG, you cannot be certain unless they are obvious (like [[Damien]]) or they say it. You will always have the doubters. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:01, 23 July 2007 (CDT)

==Image==
Is this image not working properly?

:I thought the image was corrupted and tried to restore it but it didn't work. I then found out that the image was working fine but there's something wrong with the article, template or MediaWiki software. --[[User:Leon2323|Leon2323]] 15:36, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
:Yeah . . . they're [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony|currently working on it]] --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:46, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

God in Heaven, Sarah looks like a stoned miss piggy in this picture! Geez, can't we find another one??~[[User:Nancypants|Nancy]]

==Wanna know how I know Spencer's gay?==

When you mention "pussy" to him, he thinks of a cat...

Talk:We Have A Plan

2007-10-29T08:22:56Z

75.38.63.225: ahahahahahhaha!-xwestsidex

:rofl: i love this dork!! reminds me of the dude Mo Rocca (when he used to be on animal planet)... --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
* *rolls eyes* God....GEEK! lmao He is funny. -BA

I think he's a riot. Does anyone else think he looks a bit like Jason Mraz?-EmiB

==Lightsaber - replica?==
Several people in the revision history claim the lightsaber was a replica rather than a special effect, purely because they say so. 
Let's look into this:
#When watched in slow motion, from 2:00 to 2:01, when the lightsaber is held horizontally across the screen, one can seemingly see the glow overlay move independently from the handle.
#Same in 2:02, when Spencer holds it vertically close the upper edge of the frame.
#In 2:04, there is a a moment where the glow seems to "jump" if you watch it frame by frame.
#In Order to be white in the middle, the saber would have to emit a considerable amount of light - at least as much as a fluorescent lamp; however, except for some outer glow around the blade, there is no additional light visible on Spencer or any other object in the room. Check out the lightsabers in these images from Google: [[Image:Real lightsabers.jpg|500px]] Now where is the same glow on ''anything'' in Spencer's lab or on himself?
#At 2:06, Spencer puts on his glasses; he lightly holds the saber in his right hand, even widely opening it up when taking the hand down. If the saber has a physical blade, why does it seem to have no weight at all?
#In the same moment, we can clearly see the reflection of his hand going down in the glasses - yet not the reflection of a giant, glowing blade.
#At 2:04/2:05, when Spencer does a wide sweep, his hands move above his desk on the left, producing a shadow on it - yet, at 2:01, when the lightsaber is above the exact same location, there is no light-change on the desk at all - neither more light, from a glowing blade, nor less light from a shadow.
#In addition, one can clearly see that every object on the desk more or less reflects on it, due to the desk being coated or polished. Yet, no matter how often Spencer sweeps the lightsaber above the desk, there is never, ever a reflection of it.

So, I know I wasn't there and can't "prove" this. But if yet another fanboy wants to challenge all probability, could he please provide a similar list of things speaking ''for'' the idea it was a replica? 'cause I kinda can't understand how a sane man can seriously assume this was anything but a special effect, and I'm really interested in hearing what non-light-emitting-lightbulbs are used in Star Wars merchandise...
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:12, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

Renegade, I fully agree with you. I've been a avid collector of these MR Lightsabers ever since they have been put on the market. From what I see, Spencer is using this lighstaber... 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/?action=view&current=Hasbro_Anakin_Skwalker_Lightsaber_8.jpg
The blade is weightless because... it's hallow plastic. Also, none of the MR sabers have that "light blue" color that Spencer has. Which only is more proof that they used a process called "Rotoscoping" Also here is what many of the sabers look like from my personal collection 
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/falcovolt/Props/?action=view&current=eef06768.jpg
I think we can safely deem it isn't a MR lightsaber
:~ [[User:Falcovolt|Falcovolt]] ([[User talk:Falcovolt|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Falcovolt|contribs]]) 11:19 PM, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

==It is a genuine handcrafted jedi lightsaber==
# No geek would be caught with less (is truely necessary I will also compile a list of why Spencer is a geek (and a dweeb, dork, and a nerd) but I think we can atleast agree there)
# The glow was clearly caught within the blade by focusing crystals commonly found within lightsabers, thus resulting in lack of a glow
# A lightsaber would not cause a shadow either
# A lightsaber blade has no weight, and those trained in its use can balance the forces within it to cancel out even the weight of the handle, thus resulting in it appearing as though Spencer is holding a handle with a special effect
# Of course the lightsaber produces a lot of light to be white in the middle, it is also real, see number 2: focusing crystals
# Lightsabers do not reflect. Look at Vader's shiny helmet in Star Wars, the only time you see the effects of a lightsaber in it is when the blade is incredibly close to the helmet.
# The camara clearly wasnt good enough to handle the difficulties in filming a lightsaber, hence the appearence of independant movement

==Gosh==
Lonelycrackers are some of the dorkiest people I know! A debate on whether or not it's a real light saber, etc... Srsly guys XD You crack me up. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 15:32, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

==wanna know how I know spencer's gay?==

He got aroused by the size of that lightsaber

Talk:The Bree Solution

2007-10-29T08:21:21Z

75.38.63.225: hahahahha!-xwestsidex

== Mad ==
I really misunderstood the whole "I hope he's not mad" title thing. I took it as "I hope he's not mad (as in Mad Scientist)" not angry mad. Rawr. I have my moments. :] --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 01:20, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
:Ha, I didn't even know what to think of the title of that video! (yeah, I'm that dumb 0_o) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 04:03, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

==Theories (Based on the Video)==
Pad-love = pav-love = Pavlov? that's the first thing i thought... --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

:I'm not sure. It sounds like Pahd Lohv to me, I just don't know how to spell that xD Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 23:11, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

:Wait....
:"Ivan Pavlov was a Russian psychologist and physician, who famously taught a dog to associate the ringing of a bell with being fed, to the point where the dog would salivate at the sound of the bell."
:Ummm...
:"...in on Bree, who opens her eyes as a bell rings..."
:... (o_0) woah... Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 23:28, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
::Interesting thing to point out. And strange that it makes that connection. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 00:23, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

== Sorry! ==

Sorry about the slow transcription, that was the first time I ever transcribed a video. Thank you for your patients! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 22:24, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

== Illegal? ==
''"Fans have speculated that in the video there seems to be chemistry between Taylor and Spencer, despite the fact that any such romance would be illegal (Spencer is 22 years old, while Taylor is only 16)."''

''Any'' such romance? Isnt't it just about sex? [[user:Annika|Annika]]
- Seriously, only sex with a minor is illegal. And despite popular opinion, people CAN be in love and not actively having sex.

Why the fuck does it matter?!....Spencer's gay!

Talk:I'm Here To Help

2007-10-29T08:16:36Z

75.38.63.225: its true!-xwestsidex

Oh goodness, what a lovable dork. <3 Anyhow, I can't place his accent. He says "Sarah" a bit strangely, and a few other words that I can't remember now. Anyone have an idea? --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:44, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
: Listened again, and I have a Canadian friend who says "weren't" the same way. Hmm. Okay, back to my bubble. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 21:30, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

==References==
Does anyone know what he was referencing in this video? The commercial...er?? Haha I don't think I've ever seen it before, does anyone know it? I am also not sure what he's talking about with Cliff Sawyer and the other-dimensional world of Sonad? If anyone could provide the info it'd be great, thanks! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:18, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

== Ahaha, Terry... or Terri... or Terrie... WHATEVER! ==

Ugh,
there are numerous ways to spell it!

Whatever,
but I think I am TOTALLY gonna make a userbox for Terr(y/i/ie) later. ...::Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] at 20:27, 9 July 2007 (CDT)::...
:I think that mostly Terry is the masculine way to spell it and Terri is the feminine way to spell it. At least, that's how I've always seen it written. I'm sure there are exceptions though. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:38, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, I agree. I always thought any name ending with an "i" is a type of name for a female (i.e., my name is Randy, I am male, and I have a friend named Randi, she is... not) ...::Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] at 20:47, 9 July 2007 (CDT)::...
8-O uh, dude's in a suit... no sunglasses, but what if he's an Order who's not wise to Science Jr's schemes?

== Spencer's chat? ==

I couldn't find a transcript to this chat Spencer is referring to. Was anyone there? Anyone have a transcript, at least a partial one, that they can post and link? The only thing I could find was [http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/07/spencer-says.html this], and it ''really'' does '''not''' look like said chat. --[[User:DoubleG|DoubleG]] 23:04, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
:Yeah, I think that's what he meant. He is new after all. --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 23:10, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

==Wanna know how I know spencer's gay?==

He likes corsheying pink sweaters while listening to "dancing queen" to explore his "creative interests"

Talk:What Up Blogosphere!

2007-10-29T08:14:49Z

75.38.63.225: ahhahahahahaha!-xwestsidex

Ong. Really really really like Spence. He's so funny! XD --[[User:Demented Llama|DL]]

ya notice he mixes things up? "first" "b" "third" "d" --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]
:LG15 said it might be a clue. Like b3d is a compound for some long thing that I'm too blonde to know anything about. XP --[[User:Demented Llama|Demented Llama]] 17:17, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
:That was very Home Alone-y, IMO and very funny, messing up the "list" like that! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:21, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
::AAWWWW. He's adorkable. And he's actually more realistic... kind of like, wtf guys, leave me alone. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:33, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

::: Where was this uploaded to?
::::What do you mean?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:::::This was uploaded to Spencer's youtube account... la_labrat. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 19:10, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

== I think we should vote. ==

::And have Spencer voted as the most edible of all the LG15 cast. I swear I've seen many many comments by people that they could just "eat him." --[[user:EcholaliaRicochet|EcholaliaRicochet]]

== hmm ==

you'd think a big nerd like spencer would know how to run a webcam. but no. personaly, i was very annoyed with him durring the first half of the video. yeah the first few seconds of his video were already out of character and somehow it shows through but then in the second half he really redeemed himself as "king nerd" of the lg15 world. pretty rad. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 30
:just because he's into science doesn't mean he's into videos.

==Faction?==
I wonder what faction the creators will categorize him as, if at all.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]

==Wanna know how I know Spencer's gay?==

He likes bending over a barstool, grabbing his ankles with his pants down while sucking on a lollipop.

Emma

2007-10-29T08:00:30Z

75.38.63.225:

{{Person
| name = Emma
| image = 0294 Emma2.jpg
| age = 15
| birthday =
| youtube =
| revver =
| forum-posts = Emma07
| myspace =
| actor = [[Katherine Pawlak]]
| first = [[A Family Affair]]
| last = [[What Happened?]]
| color = MediumVioletRed
| blogs = [[:category:Emma's blogs|List of Emma's blogs]]
}}
'''Emma''' is the adopted sister of [[Jonas]] and new [[Trait positive]] girl. Her first appearance is in "[[A Family Affair]]". She is played by [[Katherine Pawlak]].

==Background==
Emma was adopted by her first parents at birth, when Emma was nine they were [[Emma's Safe|killed in an accident]], and she was then adopted by [[Jonas's parents]].

Shortly after Emma met Jonas, it was revealed that she was [[Trait positive]] and had been chosen to be the new [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony girl]]. Jonas and Daniel quickly drugged her and took her to a remote location, and asked [[Sarah]] to bring [[Spencer]]'s serum, to try to make her "Trait Negative." Although they told her a false story about meeting her parents for a vacation, she soon searched the Internet and discovered that her parents had been shot, about [[Bree]]’s death and the Hymn of One. She made a meager attempt to run away, but soon decided to stay, making Jonas promise to never lie to her again.

In the video “Shadow of Death”, Emma, Jonas, and Daniel found themselves surrounded by the Order. In the midst of the ordeal, [[Sarah]] appeared . In the end, they made an escape when Emma charged at a Shadow, grabbed him and he mysteriously died. The remaining Order members fled , Emma and the rest departed without resistance. This led Jonas to believe that she had special powers capable of killing HoO members.

Soon after the confrontation, [[LaRezisto]] released a [[Help Us!|video]] about Emma. In the video a male voice tells Emma that she has a power, that she should help LaRezisto and that the Order fears her. The video ends with the male voice calling her “Angel of Death”. Daniel reacted with his [[Bullsh%t|own video]], expressing his mistrust for LaRezisto.

In the video "[[Decision Time]]", it is revealed that Emma began taking injections to convert her to trait negative. In the [[Last Train To...|following video]], Emma is shown boarding a train with her parents. Emma then posts a [[I Like Being Me|vlog]] telling us she wishes to live a normal life and announcing she will be taking the last of her injections.

After being gone only six days, Emma [[Robbing the Cradle|returns]] to Jonas and Daniel offering to help. Two days later, LaRezisto posted another video [[Join Me!|saying]] that she was a trait positive woman, named [[Claire]], wanting to help Emma hone her powers. Amid much protest from Daniel and Sarah, Jonas takes Emma to a remote place in the woods to meet with Claire. He then [[Watch Your Back|allows]] her to take Emma even deeper into the woods alone, and a [[Watcher]] comes out of the woods and calls Claire a "LaRezisto Shadow" and says Emma is in danger.

With Jonas unable to find her, videos have been posted from LaRezisto in which Claire [[Emma's Safe|warns TAAG]] not to make any attempts to find them. They also include clips of Emma, [[Girl Talk|apparently forced]] to say that [[She's Telling The Truth|she's fine]]. With TAAG doing all they could to find her, and Emma only in captivity for less than a month, Claire and Emma posted a [[Goodbye For Now|video]] saying that she would indeed be doing [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]] and saying goodbye to Jonas, Daniel, and Sarah.
==Other facts==
*Emma holds the record as the character who cries the most in the series

==Etymology of Emma==
Emma is a Germanic name. It originally meant “Whole,” from “erman,” or “Universal.”

==Theories==
Follow this [[Theories About Characters#Emma|link]] for theories about Emma.

 
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