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2008-08-01T21:47:12Z

72.130.9.188: New page: ::Spencer's back!!! **does happy dance**

::Spencer's back!!! **does happy dance**

Talk:Moonchild

2008-07-28T21:44:26Z

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I object strongly to the recreation of this page for the reasons stated at [[Talk:Aleister Crowley]]. This theory still fails at explaining '''''why''''' any reasonable person would believe that there is a connection to lonelygirl15. Wild speculation is welcome at the forum, but here on the LGPedia, I think we should have a higher standard.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:43, 16 January 2007 (CST)

:The Moonchild concept goes into what has transpired in the past. One purpose of the LGpedia was to be a reference source for many of ideas we had come across instead of having to wade through 500 pages of forum to find something when you recollect something. The fact that OwenisCool has started some work on a speculation section..At the very least the idea of a moonchild is something that took up a pretty fair amount of discussion on the forums during your absence from them. It is something that I find myself having to explain when someone watches my secrets of denderah revealed video. They go into the history of what we theorized the ceremony might actually be about. That is something that I intended to write in the page. For some of us it has become a part of our vernacular that we find others say "HUH?" in response to. The Babalon Working of the sort that John Parsons and L. R Hubbard attempted with Parsons wife is an attempt at creating a "moonchild" type being. I haven't had the chance go dig through the forums and get some of our reasons for this theory...though I intended to attempt it. There was the name calling of Bree by her school peers of the name "Stargirl"..Stargirl..moonchild..those are not real HUGE leaps from one name to the other as both would seem fitting for some otherwordly ethereal being. It doesn't mean that Bree IS any of these things or will bear any of these things..only that we have thought it possible that SOMEONE in the Order believed it. Powerful successful people have followed beliefs as equally wild. When we are dealing with a lot of conspiracy theories and a group that very well may be Illuminati, wild theories are the ORDER of the day. I know I have read some REALLY wild theories that eventually were debunked and included in the discussion to help show the evolution of thought. Also, with the fact that Bree has been confirmed to be a "CHOSEN" one given to a hand picked family to raise and be made ready to participate in the ceremony....some 16 years later... WOW..thats..ummm..pretty wild... --[[User:70.196.153.105|70.196.153.105]] 02:33, 17 January 2007 (CST) Damn timeouts --[[User:LordGreystoke422|LordGreystoke422]] 02:34, 17 January 2007 (CST)

::This reminds me of the [[Baphomet]] page. It was nominated for deletion (by me, I think), and some people stood up for it saying that even though it was not relevant to the plot, at one point fans really had speculated that Bree had a picture of Baphomet on her wall. The new screencaps show it's an old family photo, but we kept the article. Rather than struggling to find connections to the LG15 story, we clarified that it was just speculation and gave a little background. I think that kind of article is useful to people who say, might have wondered what your moonchild ref means in the video. A succint article explaining how this was part of the speculation around Bree's ceremony (however unfounded it might be), and showing how the moonchild thing spilled over to spinoffs, forum discussions, running jokes, etc. might be okay. I agree with JayHenry that it's kind of a ridiculous theory, but if the Baphomet page is on there, I don't know why this is any less deserving. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 12:00, 17 January 2007 (CST)

:::I agree with OIC. The [[Baphomet]] page is an excellent example of how, when a really bad theory is included in the LGPedia, it needs to be contextualized and debunked. I want to emphasize that I think this is the '''''first''''' step, not something to get around to addressing when there's more time. In order to keep this page on Moonchild, we need to say '''''why''''' people thought it had a connection. It's not good enough to say "Some people thought" because "Some people think" that Jonas and Daniel are gayliens. There must be a reason. So the '''''first''''' step is saying "why a moonchild." And then the second step is saying why the theory is now debunked -- we know now that the injections were EPOGEN and not birth control, and this theory is no longer relevant, etc. '''''Then''''' once the first two steps -- the important steps are added -- then we can go around saying Moonchild, blah, blah, blah.--[[User:JayHenry|Jay]] 12:23, 17 January 2007 (CST)

What is that Babalon Working reference in the article? [[User:130.91.75.251|130.91.75.251]] 13:41, 18 January 2007 (CST)

::This makes me think that ALL trait positive girls are moonchildren, hmmmmm curious

Boy Tied Up

2008-06-17T20:47:57Z

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{{Blog
| name = Boy Tied Up
| number = 502
| image = 0502_CarlCrazy.jpg
| caption = Sadistic little guy, ain't he?
| blogger = Sarah
| date = 20080616
| url = {{lg15|622}}
| forumid = 17704
| length = 2:08
| description = We had no choice.
| location = [[The rented house]]
| tags = {{tags|lonelygirl15|lg15|carl|jenny|danielbeast|jonastko|hymn of one|sarah|}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett and Greg Goodfried
| serprod = Amanda Goodfried
| pa = Jenni Powell
| directors = Marcello Daciano
| story = Tom Pettit, Blair Singer, Jim Campolongo, and Amanda Goodfried
| vidplay = Jim Campolongo
| camera = Kevin Schlanser
| editor = Matt Vanselow
| music supervisor = Seth Jacobs
| song = "Your Sacred Space" and "Sidewinder" by Mountain Mirrors

| cast = {{VidChar|Sarah}}
{{VidChar|Carl}}
{{VidChar|Jonas}}
{{VidChar|Jennie}}
{{VidChar|Emma}}
{{VidChar|Daniel}}

| Previous = Hangman's Noose
| Next = Getting Wet
| PreviousB = A Woman Scorned
| NextB =
}}

==Transcript==
'''Sarah:''' (''in kitchen'') You know, what? I don't feel bad about what happened to [[Salinas]]. In fact, I'm glad he's dead; he got what he deserved. ('' grabs cup from cupboard'') It's clear that [[the Order]] killed him and now they know exactly how dangerous we can be. (''puts camera down and serves herself coffee'') I wish the same thing could be said for Carl. He hasn't said a word since the boys napped him on [[Hangman's Noose|Friday]]. (''sighs'') We got him when he was fleeing the [[Sacred Spirit|Sacred Spirit's]] offices. He was trying to pull an OJ and skip town. We've had him in the garage all weekend. (''cuts to Sarah up close to camera'') You'll see.

(''Scene changes to Carl in his underwear. Chest and wrists tied to chair.Mouth is duct-taped'')

'''Sarah:''' We left him by himself for the fist 24 hours. And we set up a tripod and a camera to monitor him; see if he'll crack. (''cuts to Sarah shaking her head'') But he didn't. ('' cuts back to Carl in the garage. Jonas walks on camera'') Jonas took the first shot at talking to him.

'''Jonas:''' How long have you been working for the Order? Huh?!

'''Sarah:''' (''voice over'') Carl didn't even flinch.

'''Jonas:''' How long have you been working for the Order? (''grabs Carl by the neck and threatens him with his fist'') I want you to [[four-letter words|fucking]] talk to me right now.

(''scene changes to Jennie giving Carl food'')

'''Sarah:''' (''voice over'') Jennie tried the good cop approach. Of course, that didn't work. (''cuts to Sarah'') I think we should just let the bastard starve. When I think about how he used me, it just... (''pause'') Makes me so angry.

(''scene changes to Emma showing Carl pictures'')

'''Sarah:''' (''voice over'') Emma went for the guilt angle. I knew that wasn't going to work. I mean, he lied us, he betrayed me, and help kill Gina...(''cuts to Sarah in rented house'') He's not going to have any remorse.

(''scene changes to clip of Daniel talking to Carl. Sarah, outside of camera view, is standing with arms crossed'')

'''Sarah:''' (''voice over'') Daniel and I spent the weekend together. He keeps telling me that it wasn't my fault. I wish I believed him. He wouldn't let me in with Carl by myself. He said I couldn't handle being so close to Carl again. (''as Daniel is talking to Carl, Sarah suddenly punches Carl. Daniel pulls her away'') He was right.

(''scene changes to Carl without his mouth duct-taped, alone in garage. He looks up at camera and smiles'')

'''Sarah:''' (''voice over'') Everyone's losing patience. We brought him here to talk, and if he doesn't start talking soon...I don't know what may happen.

(''cuts to Sarah in kitchen'')

'''Sarah:''' Having Carl in our house is driving Jonas crazy. I mean, even Jennie can't keep him calm anymore. They already got in a huge fight. I heard them talking earlier, and Jonas is reading for answers (''air quotes'') "by any means necessary." I dunno. I just have a feeling that something bad is going to happen. Something really bad.

==Notes==
* The title of this video is a reference to the earlier video [[Girl Tied Up]].
* Sarah's line "Pull an OJ" is a reference to the infamous "White Ford Bronco" ordeal in 1994 involving football player OJ Simpson being chased by the police down Interstate 405 in an attempt to escape arrest for murder of his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman.
*Daniel is wearing a [[cap]].

Boy Tied Up

2008-06-17T20:42:39Z

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2007-05-07T01:40:23Z

72.130.9.188: /* Notes */

{{Unofficial blog
| name = My Dad / Crazy Dance
| number = 0005
| image = Flowersonmyhat Dad Crazy.jpg
| caption = All this religion talk is making me CRAZY!
| blogger = Flowersonmyhat
| date = May 06, 2007
| url = {{youtube|oNYqJYpBDuc}}
| description = I talk about my new plan, my parents, and how I'm going nuts.

I'm so bored!! Aaagghh...
| song =
| tags = {{tags|studying|religion|lying|down|mom|dad|gone|crazy|help}}| Previous = Java Mocha Latte
| Next =
}}

'''My Dad / Crazy Dance''' is the fifth video in the [[flowersonmyhat]] video series.

==Transcript==
'''Allison:''' So I've decided that in addition to my regular classes, I'm going to do a little bit of extra-curricular studying. I've been reading up online on what I thought was my religion and other ones related to it. I wanted to know what my real religion is, why my mom pulled me out, and what it is I'm eligible for. I refuse to take this lying down.

(''She looks around and realizes that she is lying down. Cut to Allison sitting in front of her bed.'')

'''Allison:''' I refuse to take this lying down! You might be wondering why I always talk about my mom, you know, where my dad is? Join the club. He left my mom ''while'' she was pregnant with me. Just left. No note, no call, no child support. Nothing. It was like he walked off the face of the earth. What a jerk, right? I think that might be one of the reasons that my mom is so protective of me and why she doesn't want me to go out with boys. Besides our religion, you know. So anyway, it's just me and my mom here. Well, mostly just me because she works 10 hour days. I think I'm going crazy.

(''Allison dances.'')

'''Allison:''' Bye!

==Notes==
*Her father leaving may be the reason Allison's mom joined the Hymn of One

Following The Helper

2007-05-06T21:56:06Z

72.130.9.188: /* Notes */

{{Blog
| name = Following The Helper
| number = 0052
| image = DanielStalk.jpg
| caption = Suddenly, the stalker becomes the stalked.
| blogger = Daniel
| date = October 15th, 2006
| url = [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=82 lonelygirl15.com]
| forumid = 2034
| length = 3:17
| description = I'm still really worried about Bree, so I decided to follow her Helper and investigate.
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|lucy|helper|weird|stalk}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
| camera = Miles Beckett and Yousef Abu-Taleb
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Amanda Goodfried
| editor = Miles Beckett


| cast =
{{VidChar|Daniel|Yousef Abu-Taleb}}
{{VidChar|Lucy|Jessi Williams}}|
| actor3 =


| Previous = I Completed The Ceremony
| Next = Daniel, Be Careful...
| PreviousB = The Ceremony
| NextB = I'm Hiding Out
}}
'''Following The Helper''' is the fifty-second video in the Lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]]. Daniel investigates Lucy.

==Transcript==
(''Daniel is standing somewhere with trees behind him and a structure overhead, addressing the camera. He is wearing a wool cap.'')

'''Daniel:''' So, I watched [[Bree]]'s latest video and...she talks about the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. I don't believe her. Someone on the [[forum]]s pointed out that she still has [[bandage|gauze]] on her arm. I mean, why would she still be getting shots if the ceremony is over? It doesn't make sense. Also the way she was saying things; it sounded almost...forced.

(''cut to Daniel filming Lucy from behind some trees as she walks up some stairs to an apartment complex'')

'''Daniel:''' I followed [[Lucy|Bree's helper]] out here. This must be where she lives. (''Lucy goes inside'') (''cut to automatic garage door opening and Lucy's car coming out'') There she is! I think she's leaving. (''cut to Daniel walking up the stairs to the door'') Okay, so...I checked the directory and there's only one apartment with a 'L' for the first name and last. (''Daniel says something unintelligible as he rattles the front door knob'')

(''cut to Daniel walking around the side of the building, climbing over a locked gate and walking along the side of the building'')

'''Daniel:''' Man! Let's see... (''Daniel stops under a balcony'') This is it. This has gotta be it. How am I gonna get up there... (''Daniel spots a cylindrical object, (maybe a trash can?) and walks towards it'') Wonder if...maybe I can move this? (''Daniel struggles with the object and climbs up to the balcony'') Okay... (''Daniel opens the door and walks in, then searches the place while panning the camera around. He passes an "Absinthe Robette" poster in the hall, goes into the bedroom and looks in the closet'') I don't even know what the hell I'm doing here. (''Daniel finds a computer desk, with the computer still on'') Good.. Oh, yes... What the hell? (''the computer apparently has several browser windows open to various locations on Google maps'') Where the hell is this? (''the last map is of the area in which the ceremony took place'') What? (''on the computer desktop, there is a folder marked "10-12-06"'') What the hell? (''Daniel double-clicks the folder and finds it full of pictures, at least some of which are of him spying on the ceremony'') Oh my God... Jesus! I gotta get out of here!

(''cut to Daniel's bedroom. He is still shaken up.'')

'''Daniel:''' I made it home. Obviously... They have pictures of me. I mean... What the hell?! They've been following me. They could be following me right now. How the hell do they have pictures of me? Can't trust Bree. This is so messed up. What the hell do they want from me?

==Notes==
* When Daniel first looks at the screen, the computer displays the date Oct. 12, 2006, even though the video was supposed to take place Oct. 15.

* When Daniel looks at the photos of himself, the file says "Greg Goodfried's desktop" in the corner (see screencap [[:Image:October 12, 2006.PNG]]). [[Greg Goodfried]]'s apartment was presumably the site of the shoot.

* Breaking and entering is illegal. And it is generally not wise to shoot video of oneself breaking the law, especially if you're spying. Most spies want to keep their activities a secret, and posting a video of them on YouTube is not the best way of doing that.

* The "Absinthe Robette" poster is by Belgian artist Privat Livemont. If an original, it is worth in the neighborhood of $20,000.<ref>[http://www.absintheoriginals.com/images/Absinthe-Robette-73KB.jpg "Absinthe Robette" poster at www.absintheoriginals.com]</ref>

*Absinthe Robette is a drink that contains a hallucinogen.<ref>{{wikipedia|Absinthe|Wikipedia article on Absinthe}}</ref><ref>{{wikipedia|Hallucinogen|Wikipedia article on hallucinogens.}}</ref>

* [[Aleister Crowley]] once wrote an essay on absinthe called "Absinthe: The Green Goddess".<ref>[http://www.oxygenee.com/Crowley-Green-Goddess.pdf Aleister Crowley's essay "Absinthe: The Green Goddess" at www.oxygenee.com].</ref>

* We learn that in addition to having an L in her first name, Lucy's last name also begins with an L.

* The [[map locations|Google maps locations]] on Lucy's computer have been identified as:
**[http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Zavalla+texas&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=31.158318,-94.426117&spn=0.017664,0.054245&t=h&om=1&iwloc=A Zavalla, Texas];
**[http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=La+Crete&sll=35.099818,-80.851139&sspn=66.844558,164.882812&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=58.193962,-116.419716&spn=0.043518,0.161018&t=h&om=1 La Crete, Alberta, Canada];
**[http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Wickenburg&sll=35.099818,-80.851139&sspn=66.844558,164.882812&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=33.967851,-112.747192&spn=0.136957,0.322037&t=h&om=1 Wickenburg, Arizona];
**[http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=N+topanga+blvd&ie=UTF8&sll=35.099818,-80.851139&sspn=118.810383,329.765625&z=14&ll=34.088422,-118.586168&spn=0.034191,0.080509&t=h&om=1 North Topanga Canyon Blvd., Topanga, CA]; and
**[http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=adak+island+alaska&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&z=13&ll=51.825275,-176.653805&spn=0.048168,0.106258 Adak Island, Alaska].

==References==
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Following The Helper

2007-05-06T19:42:50Z

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Nail polish

2007-05-06T19:36:29Z

72.130.9.188: /* Videos in Which Bree Wears Nail Polish */

{{stub}}

[[Bree]] is rarely seen wearing nail polish in her video blogs. She seems to wear it in blogs that contain information about other people's connection to [[Bree's religion | her religion]].

===Videos in Which Bree Wears Nail Polish===
*[[My Helper]] - Bree talks about [[Lucy]] and connects [[Cassie]] to her religion for the first time.
*[[Daniel, Be Careful...]] - Bree talks about the "[[deacons | higher ups]]" in her religon and about [[Lucy]]
*[[Where's Daniel?]] - Bree worries about what the Order may have done to Daniel.
*[[Cheer Me Up]] - Bree comments on the major effect that her religion has had on her and [[Daniel]]'s lives. She also attempt to contact friends about her parents.
*[[Bree Phone Home]] - Bree tries to contact friends and relatives in an effort to find her parents.
*[[OUT OF THE BUNKER!!!]] - Bree talks about her plans to go visit [[Taylor]] and stop [[Jules]] from participating in [[the Ceremony (ritual) | the Ceremony]].
*[[We Found Julia!!!]]-Bree tries to tell [[Jules]] not to do [[the Ceremony (ritual) | the Ceremony]].

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