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Rose

2006-12-13T15:15:25Z

70.169.6.37: /* Suggested explanations */

[[Image:Gemma_and_wilted_rose.jpg|thumb|300 px|The wilted rose in Gemma's flat could mean any of a number of things...]]
=Introduction=
In [[Gemma | Gemma's]] video [[Bad Decisions]] a wilting rose is prominently displayed on her right hand side. This rose is a subject of debate in the boards and fans have proposed many possible explanations, ranging from superficial to literary, from plausible to highly speculative. One user pointed out that when roses wilt, they do not bend over like other flowers do, so this one was intentionally bent - though it could have been accidentally bent by some carelessness. One theory is that it was placed like that to draw viewers' attention to the rose and its sad state. (Comment is available [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=128&play=1#comment-22448 here]].).

The meaning of the rose will likely never be directly explained, but as the story progresses perhaps fans will better ascertain the reason why it appears it in this video.

=Suggested explanations=
*Gemma's date -- The rose was given to [[Gemma]] by this boy on the first or second dates. The relationship went awry and the rose died.
*Guilt
**This is the most likely of all suggestions that the rose dying symbolises Gemma's guilt. Throughout the video, in the edited out parts, [[Gemma]] must have been touching the rose, hence the rose becoming damaged and bent.
**[[Gemma]] most likely feels guilty for instructing [[Bree]] to go home, when [[Gemma]] knows that going home would be a bad idea.
**[[Gemma]] feels guilty for giving Bree and Daniel false advice. She labeled this video "Bad Decisions" not only to strike at Bree and Daniel for their bad decisions, but to reveal to us that she is the one who has made some 'bad decisions', therefore proving she feels guilty for her actions.
*Distrust
**The wilted rose not only represents [[Gemma | Gemma's]] lost trust in this boy, but also her lack of trust in [[Jonas]]. So important is her distrust of him that the rose is placed there to emphasize it. This ties in with the [[Bad Decisions]] theme of "people are not always who they seem".
**It represents [[Bree | Bree's]] trust in [[Gemma]]. Perhaps at first she thought [[Gemma]] could be trusted, but something happened to alert her that she should not follow [[Gemma | Gemma's]] advice. This would explain why [[Bree]] no longer acknowledges [[Gemma|Gemma's]] videos, yet frequently refers to [[Jonas]] and wants to trust him. This would also tie in with the theme of "people are not always who they seem".
*The rose symbolizes [[The Order | the Order]], and its wilting represents corruption
**At the center of the [[Unicursal hexagram | unicursal hexagram]] lies a rose. This symbol has been linked to [[Bree's religion]] and [[The Order | the Order]].
**The symbol of the rosy cross, which has a rose at its center, plays a substantial role within the system of [[Thelema]] as developed by [[Aleister Crowley]]. In a cosmological context, the rose is Nuit, the goddess of the night sky from Egyptian mythology.
**The rose's wilting could then represent that [[Gemma]] has been corrupted by [[The Order |the Order]].
*Bree
**The rose represents [[Bree]] (played by Jessica ''Rose''). It is a single (lonely) rose.
**Its wilting represents [[Bree | Bree's]] downfall, her lost innocence, and/or lost faith in the people close to her. It had not fully bloomed and already it is wilted because it was cut off from the bush (Bree's family).
*Love
**The rose represents Love ([[Daniel]] and [[Bree]]), which is pitted against Will ([[The Order]], [[Bree's religion]], [[Parents | her parents]]).
**The rose dies, so Will wins and [[Bree]] will be returned to her community to do her duty.
*Time
**The rose visibly wilts during the video, particularly between [[jump cut | jump cuts]]. It is nearly shriveled up and broken by the end of the approximately 3-minute video.
**The rapid wilting could mean that time is running out: perhaps the date of [[Bree's ritual | the ceremony]] is approaching, or [[The Order | the Order]] plans to apprehend [[Bree]] and [[Daniel]] soon, or there is little time left to rescue [[Parents | Bree's parents]].
*A messsage
**Fans have long been speculating that [[Gemma]] speaks to [[Bree]] in [[Double talk | code]].
**[[Gemma]] may have placed it there, wilted and bent, to send an important message to [[Bree]].
**Perhaps [[Gemma]] is saying that she is under [[The Order | the Order's]] surveillance, or that [[the Order]] is making her tell [[Bree]] to go home, or warning [[Bree]] not to trust her either because she's being manipulated by [[the Order]]. This might make sense since [[Gemma]] said she had seen a [[Watcher]] in her video [[Scared To Go Home]], but since later retracted that claim, saying that she had just been feeling paranoid. [[The Order]] could have also made her deny that she had been followed.

=Other roses in lonelygirl15=
[[Bree's bedroom]] has a framed picture of a rose on the wall. Since [[Aleister Crowley]] is credited with adding a rose to the center of the [[unicursal hexagram]], it's possible that picture is another reference to Crowley. However, the [[Wired]] article titled "The Secret World of Lonelygirl" alleges that Beckett "got it at a 99-cent store because it was cheap and looked like something a teenage girl would buy." There is a faint pink-quotation printed beneath the flower that reads “It is by believing in roses that one brings them to bloom.”
 
In [[Breakfast In Bed]], [[Daniel]] comes back from the grocery store with breakfast for [[Bree]] and some white flowers. Many viewers thought they were roses, but upon closer inspection it seems like he just picked some gardenias on the way back from the store.

[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:13:24Z

70.169.6.37: /* Other Notes */

== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
----
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
----

== Other Notes ==
Nobackspacebutton is italian and has a love for the lamborguni, an italian car.

== Interests ==
Writing, reading, cooking, poetry, music, astrology, astronomy, the moon, stars, organisation

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:13:17Z

70.169.6.37: /* Basic Information */

== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
----
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
----

== Other Notes ==
Nobackspacebutton is italian and has a love for the lamborguni, an italian car.
== Interests ==
Writing, reading, cooking, poetry, music, astrology, astronomy, the moon, stars, organisation

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:12:27Z

70.169.6.37:

== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
----
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
----
== Other Notes ==
Nobackspacebutton is italian and has a love for the lamborguni, an italian car.
== Interests ==
Writing, reading, cooking, poetry, music, astrology, astronomy, the moon, stars, organisation

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:11:58Z

70.169.6.37: /* Basic Information */

== Basic Information ==
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary 
 
----
 
 
Nobackspacebutton has been a member of the LG forums since October and posts regularly. She is known for creating conspiracy theories and questioning motives of others. Her real name is Beth Anne, but most refer to her simply as BA. She was born September 22, 1986 in Utica, NY. Her current occupation is a sexy secretary.
 
 
----
 

== Other Notes ==
 
 
Nobackspacebutton is italian and has a love for the lamborguni, an italian car.
 
 
== Interests ==
 
 
Writing, reading, cooking, poetry, music, astrology, astronomy, the moon, stars, organisation

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:06:16Z

70.169.6.37: /* Basic Information */

== Basic Information ==
----
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:06:04Z

70.169.6.37:

== Basic Information ==
 
----
'''Username''': Nobackspacebutton 
'''Website''': www.myspace.com/stalkerBA 
'''Name''': BA 
'''Age''': 20 
'''Location''': Watching, You 
'''Occupation''': Sexy Secretary

User:Nobackspacebutton

2006-12-09T17:04:53Z

70.169.6.37:

Username: Nobackspacebutton
Website: www.myspace.com/stalkerBA
Name: BA
Age: 20
Location: Watching, You
Occupation: Sexy Secretary

Lonelygirl15 chat room

2006-12-09T17:03:17Z

70.169.6.37: /* Chat Room Regulars */

===The Chat Room===

The lonelygirl15.com web site has a chat room which is entered via a link on the main page of the website. http://www.lonelygirl15.com

To access the chat you will need the main site login. This will give access to the chat and allow you to comment on the video.

===Bree's Chat===
On November 28 at 6pm PST (2am GMT) Bree was scheduled to ask fans for advice on what she should do next in a longlygirl15 chat room. Users were told that this chat would not take place in the regular "Userplane" chat room but rather in an alternative platform. As the scheduled time approached the lonelygirl15 web site began to function slower and slower and at times was essentially inoperable. The link the the new chat room never became operable. Users began to migrate to the normal "Userplane" chat room and as rooms filled up additional ones were created. Essentially this meant that the lonelygirl15 characters who participated (Bree, Jonas and Gemma) could only interface with participants in one of the rooms.

[[Bree's November 28 chat|A partial transcript of the chat is available]].

=== Common Terms Used ===
Woot! - Geek word 
Dubaya - A used by JDAdmin with common reference to George W. Bush. 
===How to Use the New Chat===
Community Chat is a Flash based application and will only fully function if you have Macromedia Flash Player v. 8 or a later version installed on your machine.
Chat window consists of 3 main areas: users list, messages area and send a message area.

'''Users List'''
Users list displays current room users. You can sort users in ascending or descending alphabetical order or by the time they joined the room by clicking a relevant icon. Male and female chatters have different icons displayed next to their usernames. On a left click on a user name in the list user's menu will appear.

'''Messages area'''

Messages area displays chat messages. Each entry contains time, sender name, recipient (for private and personal messages) and message text.
On the top of the message area there are 2 buttons: Chat Rooms and History. If you click Chat Rooms button, a rooms list window where you select the room you wish to join will appear. Clicking History button will allow to view chat history that you can copy to the clipboard.
Send a message area

Here you can send a new chat message as well as use some of chat options.
To send a message just type it into the message box and click "Send" button or just press enter on your keyboard. To insert smiles from a smiles library into your messages click smiles button and choose the one you wish to add.
There are three messaging modes in Community Chat - a message to all users, Personal messages, and Private messages.

To send a message to all users, select All Users from "Send To" drop down list.
To send a personal message, simply select the user from a Send To drop down list or left-click the user's name in the user list and click Send Personal or click the user's name in messages area. Your message will appear in the messages area with a mark [to username].

To send a private message to a certain user, you can select him from the Send To user drop down list and check Private checkbox on the right, or left-click the user's name in the main user list and click Send Private. This message will be visible only to you and the recipient.

If you select a certain user to send him a personal or a private message, you can choose to continue sending your messages to this user only by clicking the lock icon (on the left to "Send to" drop dawn list). If it's locked "Send to" and Private values will remain the same after the message has been sent.

To change the color of your username, click the color selector next to the smilies icon and select any color from the palette.

The clock icon next to color palette selector allows to hide/show message time that displays in the messages area.
User status

The Community Chat supports Online, Away and Personal Only user modes. If Away mode is selected, an away icon will appear next to your name in the users list to notify other Chatters that you are not available at the moment. If you choose Personal Only mode, you will only see the messages sent to you personally (both personal and private).
=== Features ===
'''Advanced text formatting''' 
Personalizing your incoming, outgoing, private and system messages with color, style and size is really easy - you will never miss an important message from your favourite chat buddy. Learn more
 
'''Multi-room support''' 
Community Chat supports multiple rooms. In addition to default rooms created by administrator, user may create their own rooms and invite chat users to join them.
 
'''Chat status indicators''' 
Intuitive icons will let other users know if you are available for chat and online, whether you are away or accept personal messages only.
 
'''Send a file''' 
Community Chat supports Send a File feature that allows chat users to share their photos, music and any other files.
 
'''Resizable chat window''' 
For your convenience you can adjust chat window size like that of any common application.
 
'''Multilanguage support''' 
Chat interface language can be easily changed by administrator. Moreover, several languages can be added so the users could choose their preferred language from the list.
 
'''User database integration''' 
Community Chat can be integrated with your web site users database to import user login and personal details into chat. This enables a built in chat user profile viewer and allows to use personalized site settings.
 
'''Integration with Site Messenger and Video Communicator''' 
Community Chat is fully integrated with Site Messenger and Video Communicator. With one click user can open private chat using Site Messenger or start real-time video communication with selected chatter.
 
'''Moderator Options''' 
Chat courtesy and behaviour rules can be monitored and enforced by multiple moderators. Users can be banned from the chat or from one of the rooms, forever or for a certain time period. Moderator messages can be highlighted by means of preferred text formatting.
 
'''Smiles support''' 
You can express more emotions with the help of a set of chat smiles. The chat supports flash animated as well as static smiles.
 
'''Chat History''' 
Community Chat keeps chat logs and users do not have to copy and paste important messages they want to save. Full chat history can be easily saved as a plain text file or sent by email to a specified email address.
 
'''Audio Alerts''' 
Your chat events can be accompanied by various customizable sound alerts. Sound setting include volume control, mute option, different sounds choices for incoming, outgoing, private, and system messages.
 
'''Personal black list''' 
Community Chat users can block all incoming messages from unwelcome chatters. With one click unwanted user can be added or removed from a personal black list at any time.
 
'''Administrator Options''' 
Apart from monitoring users database and playing the role of moderator, the chat administrator can manage rooms, moderators, modify chat skin, add new languages and many more.

=== Chat Room Regulars===
[[User:StarLady|StarLady]] 
[[General firstsayer|General Firstsayer]] 
[[User:HoorayForMeImMakingOut|HoorayForMeImMakingOut]] 
[[iiamnina]] 
[[KilltheSmiley]] 
[[User:onetruegnome|onetruegnome]] 
[[OhEmGeeItsLily]] 
[[nobackspacebutton]] 
[[QuickClick]] 
[[VoyBoy]] 
[[GoodGollyItsHolly]] 
[[lawdork07]] 
[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 
[[N2PTF]] 
[[Hooda17]] 

Josh 
Iris2009

===What happened to the old chat room?===
The original LG15 chat room operateed using an Adobe Flash based web page from Userplane, a company that was recently purchased by America Online (a Time Warner Inc. subsiduary}. The producers of Lonelygirl15 did not benefit financially form this arrangement. Sources such as myspace,friendster, date.com, Honda, and Red Bull use userplane chat services. In order to support the needs of live discussion between fans and characters the producers decided to replace the Userplane solution with software they could control directly.

Lonelygirl15 chat room

2006-12-09T17:03:04Z

70.169.6.37: /* Chat Room Regulars */

===The Chat Room===

The lonelygirl15.com web site has a chat room which is entered via a link on the main page of the website. http://www.lonelygirl15.com

To access the chat you will need the main site login. This will give access to the chat and allow you to comment on the video.

===Bree's Chat===
On November 28 at 6pm PST (2am GMT) Bree was scheduled to ask fans for advice on what she should do next in a longlygirl15 chat room. Users were told that this chat would not take place in the regular "Userplane" chat room but rather in an alternative platform. As the scheduled time approached the lonelygirl15 web site began to function slower and slower and at times was essentially inoperable. The link the the new chat room never became operable. Users began to migrate to the normal "Userplane" chat room and as rooms filled up additional ones were created. Essentially this meant that the lonelygirl15 characters who participated (Bree, Jonas and Gemma) could only interface with participants in one of the rooms.

[[Bree's November 28 chat|A partial transcript of the chat is available]].

=== Common Terms Used ===
Woot! - Geek word 
Dubaya - A used by JDAdmin with common reference to George W. Bush. 
===How to Use the New Chat===
Community Chat is a Flash based application and will only fully function if you have Macromedia Flash Player v. 8 or a later version installed on your machine.
Chat window consists of 3 main areas: users list, messages area and send a message area.

'''Users List'''
Users list displays current room users. You can sort users in ascending or descending alphabetical order or by the time they joined the room by clicking a relevant icon. Male and female chatters have different icons displayed next to their usernames. On a left click on a user name in the list user's menu will appear.

'''Messages area'''

Messages area displays chat messages. Each entry contains time, sender name, recipient (for private and personal messages) and message text.
On the top of the message area there are 2 buttons: Chat Rooms and History. If you click Chat Rooms button, a rooms list window where you select the room you wish to join will appear. Clicking History button will allow to view chat history that you can copy to the clipboard.
Send a message area

Here you can send a new chat message as well as use some of chat options.
To send a message just type it into the message box and click "Send" button or just press enter on your keyboard. To insert smiles from a smiles library into your messages click smiles button and choose the one you wish to add.
There are three messaging modes in Community Chat - a message to all users, Personal messages, and Private messages.

To send a message to all users, select All Users from "Send To" drop down list.
To send a personal message, simply select the user from a Send To drop down list or left-click the user's name in the user list and click Send Personal or click the user's name in messages area. Your message will appear in the messages area with a mark [to username].

To send a private message to a certain user, you can select him from the Send To user drop down list and check Private checkbox on the right, or left-click the user's name in the main user list and click Send Private. This message will be visible only to you and the recipient.

If you select a certain user to send him a personal or a private message, you can choose to continue sending your messages to this user only by clicking the lock icon (on the left to "Send to" drop dawn list). If it's locked "Send to" and Private values will remain the same after the message has been sent.

To change the color of your username, click the color selector next to the smilies icon and select any color from the palette.

The clock icon next to color palette selector allows to hide/show message time that displays in the messages area.
User status

The Community Chat supports Online, Away and Personal Only user modes. If Away mode is selected, an away icon will appear next to your name in the users list to notify other Chatters that you are not available at the moment. If you choose Personal Only mode, you will only see the messages sent to you personally (both personal and private).
=== Features ===
'''Advanced text formatting''' 
Personalizing your incoming, outgoing, private and system messages with color, style and size is really easy - you will never miss an important message from your favourite chat buddy. Learn more
 
'''Multi-room support''' 
Community Chat supports multiple rooms. In addition to default rooms created by administrator, user may create their own rooms and invite chat users to join them.
 
'''Chat status indicators''' 
Intuitive icons will let other users know if you are available for chat and online, whether you are away or accept personal messages only.
 
'''Send a file''' 
Community Chat supports Send a File feature that allows chat users to share their photos, music and any other files.
 
'''Resizable chat window''' 
For your convenience you can adjust chat window size like that of any common application.
 
'''Multilanguage support''' 
Chat interface language can be easily changed by administrator. Moreover, several languages can be added so the users could choose their preferred language from the list.
 
'''User database integration''' 
Community Chat can be integrated with your web site users database to import user login and personal details into chat. This enables a built in chat user profile viewer and allows to use personalized site settings.
 
'''Integration with Site Messenger and Video Communicator''' 
Community Chat is fully integrated with Site Messenger and Video Communicator. With one click user can open private chat using Site Messenger or start real-time video communication with selected chatter.
 
'''Moderator Options''' 
Chat courtesy and behaviour rules can be monitored and enforced by multiple moderators. Users can be banned from the chat or from one of the rooms, forever or for a certain time period. Moderator messages can be highlighted by means of preferred text formatting.
 
'''Smiles support''' 
You can express more emotions with the help of a set of chat smiles. The chat supports flash animated as well as static smiles.
 
'''Chat History''' 
Community Chat keeps chat logs and users do not have to copy and paste important messages they want to save. Full chat history can be easily saved as a plain text file or sent by email to a specified email address.
 
'''Audio Alerts''' 
Your chat events can be accompanied by various customizable sound alerts. Sound setting include volume control, mute option, different sounds choices for incoming, outgoing, private, and system messages.
 
'''Personal black list''' 
Community Chat users can block all incoming messages from unwelcome chatters. With one click unwanted user can be added or removed from a personal black list at any time.
 
'''Administrator Options''' 
Apart from monitoring users database and playing the role of moderator, the chat administrator can manage rooms, moderators, modify chat skin, add new languages and many more.

=== Chat Room Regulars===
[[User:StarLady|StarLady]] 
[[General firstsayer|General Firstsayer]] 
[[User:HoorayForMeImMakingOut|HoorayForMeImMakingOut]] 
[[iiamnina]] 
[[KilltheSmiley]] 
[[User:onetruegnome|onetruegnome]] 
[[OhEmGeeItsLily]] 
[[nobackspacebutton]] 
[[QuickClick]] 
[[VoyBoy]] 
[[GoodGollyItsHolly]]
[[lawdork07]] 
[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 
[[N2PTF]] 
[[Hooda17]] 

Josh 
Iris2009

===What happened to the old chat room?===
The original LG15 chat room operateed using an Adobe Flash based web page from Userplane, a company that was recently purchased by America Online (a Time Warner Inc. subsiduary}. The producers of Lonelygirl15 did not benefit financially form this arrangement. Sources such as myspace,friendster, date.com, Honda, and Red Bull use userplane chat services. In order to support the needs of live discussion between fans and characters the producers decided to replace the Userplane solution with software they could control directly.