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Chapter 4: Growth Spurt

2008-10-13T04:44:03Z

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==Transcript==
'''Voice:''' The fountain of youth is real, and it's in the blood of dozens of girls across the world. Their secret is known by few, yet desired by all. They are pawns in the most dangerous of games. We are the Resistance. Our mission is to find these girls, and protect them from those who want to use them, and destroy them. And we document what happens to them, so that their stories live on. This is the story of one of those girls. We are the Resistance. We will not be stopped.

(''Static effect to a picture of the LG15: The Resistance logo. Static effect to a clip of Maggie's room, except a blank white tarp is covering the camera. LifesBlood security voices are heard.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' Control, we have a visual interruption on 212.

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Tech 1, dispatching security to [[Maggie|Patient 212]].

'''LBL Voice:''' Security on route now, please advise.

(''Cut to a clip of two LifesBlood security guards approaching Maggie's room. LifesBlood security voices are still overheard. One of the security guards talks into his walkie talkie.'')

'''Security guard:''' No visual on Patient 212, repeat, no visual.

'''LBL Voice:''' Lockdown protocol initiated; opening Door 212.

(''The two security guards walk into Maggie's room. One of them removes the cloth blocking the camera looking over the room.'')

'''Security guard:''' Tech 1, we have a missing patient.

'''LBL Voice:''' Control, dispatch all officers to Ward 6 immediately.

(''Static effect to [[Reed]] in [[Craptastic!]]. In the bottom right are the words '''Monday October 6, 2008 ReedABook'''. Reed is shown running down a street.'')

'''Reed:''' Crap. Crappity crap crapping crap. Ready... crapping crap. Hold on... crap.

(''Reed continues to run around the city and eventually ducks behind a wall. He is panting.'')

'''Reed:''' I'm just... Guess, uh, this is my life now! Running. Ducking. Behind walls. I really wish I'd tried harder during gym class. Okay, Jonas, look. I- I know you guys are dealing with your own problems, but you're not the only people dealing with something that is bigger than yourselves right now. I asked you last week. I'm asking you again. Help me. Please, help me. I c- Oh man.

(''The camera pans to [[Creepy Van Man]] across the street. Reed starts whispering to the man.'')

'''Reed:''' Come on. Keep going. Come on. There you go. Yeah.

(''The camera pans back to Reed.'')

'''Reed:''' This is not as fun as they make it look on Alias. Everywhere, these... LifesBlood people are multiplying like gremlins on steroids. I don't know what they want from me. I don't know what I did wrong. I was just trying to help you guys. That's all I wanted. I can still help you, by the way. I saw what happened o-on Friday at the warehouse. If you guys just had one more person, your escapes wouldn't be so narrow. They'd be, uh, you know, wider, I guess. Clean. No fuss. I'm going to try and meet up with you guys on Friday if you can find me. If you can't... uh, um, I guess this will be my last post.

(''Static effect to a security video with the words "Playback" in the top right corner. In the left corner in a box, another video is playing where security guards are running on a stairway. In the playback clip, [[Beaumont]] is seen carrying his janitor's cart into Maggie's room.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' Control, we are reviewing security tapes for Patient 212. Also monitoring Lifes' security feeds.

'''Security guard:''' Agent 462 reporting.

(''Beaumont enters Maggie's room. The main video now is a hallway. The video in the top left shows security guards with guns trying to break into Maggie's room. The video in the bottom right shows Beaumont and Maggie in her room. Beaumont is trying to comfort Maggie and eventually puts a white tarp over the camera.'')

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Open Room 212 security cam recording.

'''Security guard:''' Who's lead on the floor?

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Agent 293. Security team is sweeping all rooms.

'''Security guard:''' Level 4 clear.

'''Security guard 2:''' Room 4 clear.

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Playback on hallway cam recordings, fullscreen.

(''Cut to a fullscreen shot of Beaumont exiting Maggie's room nervously. He walks down the hallway and looks at the camera.'')

'''Security guard:''' Who is that?

'''LBL Voice:''' Rewinding tape.

(''Tape is rewound and paused at the spot where Beaumont looks at the camera.'')

'''Security guard 2:''' Hold, please.

'''Security guard:''' All agents, your new target is orderly Beaumont Charles.

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Find him. Now!

(''Static effect to [[Sarah]] in [[1-800-I-CAN-REED]]. In the bottom right corner, text says '''Tuesday October 7, 2008 Sarah'''. Music starts playing and Sarah is seen bent in front of the camera. Cut to her sitting on her bed with the [[Willow Wood Auctioneers#Samsaran Doctrine|Samsaran Doctrine]] in hand. She makes a perplexed face at it. Cut to her in various positions on the bed reading the book. Cut to her in various positions on the bed becoming fed up with the book. Cut to her sitting on the bed. She closes the book and a cloud of dust flies out at her face. Cut to her directly in front of the camera, putting her sexy librarian glasses on.'')

'''Sarah:''' Jonas and I spent the entire weekend trying to figure this thing and we got, um....

(''Cut to Sarah with the book open, crossing her eyes at it.'')

'''Sarah:''' Nada. Nothing. Not even my sexy librarian glasses did the trick.

(''Cut to Sarah shrugging without her glasses on.'')

'''Sarah:''' We contacted the Hymn of None to see if they had anything.

(''Cut to Sarah holding the book above her, shaking it out.'')

'''Sarah:''' When in doubt, turn to the super-secret all-knowing robot-voice people. A few minutes ago, we got this key from them and apparently it's specially formatted for this Samsaran Doctrine thingamado. Just so Jonas and I aren't the only ones having all the fun, I'm gonna post it on the website just for you. If you can figure out, like, a segment of it, we'll take care of the rest of the book. I know what you're thinking. "What lazy Resistance leaders!" How dare you. Well, not exactly. Jonas and I have a few things to discuss, namely the whole Reed situation. Maybe this is the pot calling the kettle black, but can he be trusted? I don't know. I'd like to think so. We're gonna go out for a bit, talk about some stuff, and relax. Where are we going? Some place with a happy hour special, of course!

(''Cut to [[Jonas]] in [[Powder Keg of Beer!]]. Text in the bottom right corner says '''1:00 AM Wednesday October 8, 2008 Jonas'''. He is shirtless.'')

'''Jonas:''' Oof. Reed, I understand where you're coming from. We are the last two people on earth you'd wanna be around if you were at all concerned about your own safety. That's why I don't think you should come with us.

(''Cut to Sarah in [[Angry Drunk Chick!]]. Text in the bottom right corner says '''3:00 AM Wednesday October 8, 2008 Sarah'''. She is in the bathroom, noticeably drunk.'')

'''Sarah:''' Reed looks normal. And cool. And cute. And I think he should join us.

(''Static effect to both Sarah and Jonas in [[Remember the Mission]]. Text in the bottom right corner says '''Wednesday October 8, 2008 HymnofNone'''. Clips of Sarah and Jonas from their latest videos are shown in a split screen form, with Sarah on the left and Jonas on the right. Clips flash of Sarah drinking while Jonas's flashing clips pause to him talking.'')

'''Jonas:''' You know, that Sarah can drink like a sailor.

(''Clips flash of Jonas vlogging while Sarah's flashing clips pause to her talking.'')

'''Sarah:''' For the record, you have no clue.

(''Clips flash of Sarah's latest video while Jonas talks.'')

'''Jonas:''' But after tonight, it's clear that she's a little unstable.

(''Clips flash of Jonas's latest video while Sarah talks.'')

'''Sarah:''' You. Are. A. Tight. Ass.

(''Clips of Sarah continue to flash while Jonas's half of the video is pausedto a screenshot of him. Then, Sarah's clips pause. After a few seconds, both clips begin to flash again.'')

'''Voice:''' Jonas, Sarah, you are acting like fools, your disagreements with one another are counter-productive. Bickering does not advance our common goal. If either of you are to succeed, you must combine your efforts. You must focus on what is important.

(''Over top of the continuous clips of Jonas and Sarah, several shots of the Samsarine Doctrine are shown.'')

'''Voice:''' The book is what matters. Our community understands this. Their diligence and commitment shame you in this hour. You are supposed to lead the Resistance, not take advantage of it. We are so close. The Samsaran Doctrine is no longer a myth. It is in our posession and we will use it to our advantage. Jonas, Sarah, you must translate the remaining pages. Find the solution. Find us the weapon in the stone. Work together, or fail us all. The choice is yours.

(''Static effect to Beaumont sitting at a table in an interrogation room.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' Interrogation room J.

'''Security guard 2:''' Entering interrogation room.

(''A security guard enters the interrogation room. Beaumont gets up defensively. Subtitles are shown.'')

'''Security guard 2:''' Where is she?

'''Beaumont:''' I don't know what you're talking about.

(''The security guard pushes Beaumont into a wall.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' He knows where she is.

'''Security guard 2:''' Do you have any idea what she is?

'''Beaumont:''' I don't know.

'''Security guard 2:''' Shut up! Get up. Get up now.

'''Beaumont:''' Please...I was just cleaning.

'''Security guard 2:''' Stand the fuck up!

(''Beaumont stands up.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' He knows where she is; break him down.

'''Security guard 2:''' That girl is the culmination of millions of dollars of research...

'''Beaumont:''' I don't know which girl...

(''The security guard punches Beaumont and he falls.'')

'''Security guard 2:''' Her blood is the most valuable substance on the planet.

(''The security guard picks up a chair and threatens to beat Beaumont with it.'')

'''Security guard 2:''' I swear to God, if you don't tell me what you did with her, I will beat you to death with this goddamn chair!

'''Beaumont:''' Downstairs. She's downstairs in the supply room.

(''The security guard sets down the chair and walks out of the room.'')

'''LBL Voice 2:''' All heads to Supply Room B. Go! Now!

'''LBL Voice:''' All heads to Supply Room. Sub-basement level.

(''Beaumont is seen crying. Static effect to Reed in [[All Aboard!]]. Text in the bottom right corner says '''Friday October 10, 2008 Sarah'''. Images of Reed walking around a city, repeatedly checking his watch, he is followed from behind into an alley.'')

'''Creepy Van Man:''' Excuse me...

(''The camera turns and the Creepy Van Man punches Sarah. Sarah falls down. Creeoy Van Man repeatedly tells Sarah something and then takes out a gun. Jonas jumps in and starts to beat up Creepy Van Man.'')

'''Reed:''' Should I uh...do, do you need a-

(''Jonas finishes off the Van Man.'')

'''Jonas:''' Feel free to jump in next time. C'mon, let's get out of here.

'''Reed''' Me too?

'''Sarah:''' Oh, c'mon.

'''Jonas:''' (''hesitantly'') Yeah, you too. (''looks at Sarah'') He's your responsibility, not mine.

'''Sarah:''' Done and done, let's go.

(''Static effect to LifesBlood security footage of the supply room.'')

'''LBL Voice:''' All units to supply room.

(''Security guards are seen coming into the supply room with guns.'')

'''Security guard:''' We're at the supply room.

(''Another security guard opens the door to the supply room and the rest of the guards march in with guns.'')

'''Security guard:''' Go! Go!

'''Security guard 2:''' Doors are clear. Main area clear. Search everywhere, damnit!

(''Cut to footage of Maggie's room.'')

'''Security guard:''' Sir, there's nobody here. She's gone, sir.

(''Cut to what seems like Maggie falling from the ceiling. She looks very nervous. She runs out the door.'')

'''LBL Voice 2:''' Do not let that orderly go. He is a dead man.

(''Static effect to the LG15: The Resistance logo. Text says '''www.LG15.com'''.'')

==Notes==

Shaken Up

2008-07-22T05:50:51Z

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==Transcript==
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==Notes==
*Sarah asking Daniel if he'll stick with her "no matter what" hints toward fan's speculations that she might not be who she says she is.
*Also, Sarah's eye direction when she says "no matter what" is downward and to the right suggesting she is having an internal dialog with herself

Shaken Up

2008-07-22T03:37:14Z

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The Last Work: 11PM

2008-07-04T04:15:06Z

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Lauren: You know what I really hate the Country side it really bloody stinks

Gavin: I'm really sorry about before meaning we should have came back with you

Lee: Yeah, I'm sorry I just wanted to see Sofie

Gavin: But we weren't scared or anything right Lee?

Lauren: Your such a pair of girls.

==Notes==
*In the live chat (11PM), Charlie states that they did not take the tape Terrence had because Kate is already dead and they don't need to see it.

Going Down

2008-07-03T05:27:51Z

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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' Here we are! Lake Clandon. (''Pans over the lake'') I'd really like to thank ooxxkt, Brandy, and Bear for helping me decode the documents that I found in the [[Resistance]] [[Lonelygirl15_minor_locations#Bunker_7|bunker]]. Thanks to you guys we figured out that the documents made up of signal flags and morse code contained a location, Lake Clandon, followed by a series of very, very vague instructions. I guess whoever wrote this things must have had some kind of a naval background. (''Sniffs'') Yeah, that smells like a clue. (''Cut to Jonas at the edge of the lake'') This is so... so weird. I've been here before. Yeah... I used to go fishing here with my [[Jonas's parents|dad]] when I was a kid. Maybe there was more to those trips than I thought. (''Cut to a tree and Jonas looking up it'') (''Laughs'') Ahh! I have no idea what I'm looking for to be honest. First part of the code translated as "Caldon Lake." Kay, we're here. But then it said, "by the marked tree," so... I'm guessing one of the trees around here's gotta have some sort of marking on it? I don't know. Keep your eyes open. Oh, yeah, I guess I gotta do that.

(''Cut to some fast footage of Jonas searching various trees'')

'''Jonas:''' And here we are at tree one billion six hundred and ninety seven thousand. I don't even know. Maybe I've already seen the mark. I mean, I don't even know what I'm looking for. (''Cut to Jonas kneeled at a tree. The camera pans from the bottom up until a Resistance symbol is seen''.) Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. That's a... that's a... what's it called? Theta? Theta (''snaps fingers'') Theta Pi! It's an anti-order symbol. It's the same one that Bree [[How Dumb Am I?|found]] in my parent's cabin. I think we've found our marked tree, people.

(''Cut to an angled shot from the ground of Jonas in front of the tree with his bag and equipment next to him''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Pulls out documents'') Okay, so here's the deal. This right here (''shows alpha naval signal flag upside down'') this is the signal... (''turns it right side up'') this is the signal flag for the letter A. It's also an abbreviation for "Diver Down." Yeah, diver down. So I guess... (''laughs'') I guess that means whatever I'm looking for is in the water. I'm going swimming! (''Stuffs documents into bag'') And the last part was in morse code and it said "black rock" so I'm looking for a black rock in the water. (''Sniffs'') Sounds easy. (''Grabs shovel'') Good thing I'm prepared, huh? (''Grabs the camera'')

(''Cut to Jonas crouched down in front of the camera in his bathing suit''.)

'''Jonas:''' Okay, so I guess I'm not as prepared as I thought. Didn't bring flip-flops. (''Sighs'') All right, anyway, (''clears throat'') I'm gonna have to leave you guys here for this part. Wish me luck. (''Goes to walk away'') This better be worth it. That's all I'm saying.

(''Jonas gets up and heads over to the water with his shovel. Noise from behind the camera can be heard''.)

'''Jonas:''' Big rocks, big rocks!

(''Jonas goes out of view and we hear footsteps approaching. Two gloved hands appear in the shot and begin rummaging through Jonas' bag. They pull out a pair of laboratory goggles. They fumble through the rope and finally find the documents underneath''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hey! Hey!

(''The gloved person fumbles with the documents but scoops them up and runs away''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Running after the person'') Hey! Ow! Damn it!

(''Cut to Jonas holding his bag close to the river''.)

'''Jonas:''' Okay, I don't know who that was. I was too far out. I couldn't really see. But I'm thinking I better get this done before they come back. What do you think? (''Walks down to the edge of the lake'') Let's get to digging.

(''Cut to fast footage of Jonas digging around in the water. Jonas picks up a black rock and examines it''.)

'''Jonas:''' Ha! Ha ha! (''Lifts up rock'') Ha ha ha ha! Ha! (''Runs over to the camera with the rock'') Black rock, same symbol. (''Throws rock down'') Got it.

(''Jonas goes back into the water and starts digging. Eventually, his shovel hits something. He begins to dig frantically and pulls out a silver briefcase and walks back to the camera''.)

'''Jonas:''' I got it! I got it. I got it.

(''Cut to Jonas with his shirt on under the tree'')

'''Jonas:''' All right, so this is what's inside. (''Holds up a plastic covered document with signatures'') It looks like... some sort of a mission statement and it's got a bunch of signatures on it. Right? So I did a quick check online. Every single name on here, signed in full, corresponds with every initial on my dad's [[The Order in the Modern Empire|thesis]]. My dad's name is on this paper alongside eleven other names including Michael Byron Carruthers. (''Gets louder'') As in... (''turns around to see if anyone is around and gets quieter'') as in [[Lord Carruthers]]. No, why would Lord Carruthers' name be on a Resistance document? I don't know. (''Grabs breifcase'') But we're gonna find out.

(''Cut to Jonas lying on the grass near his truck'')

'''Jonas:''' You know, when I think of this lake or this mission statement... (''sighs'') it makes me realize this is getting all very, very personal. You know, I started this trip out with Gina's drawings and now everything, everything's leading back to my parents. You know, when I first found out they were still [[Hey Dad|alive]], man... that's a feeling that's just impossible to describe. When they didn't [[A Family Affair|remember]] me, I just... I just kinda gave up on em. I gave up on ever knowing the truth about their role in the Resistance, what happened to them after they disappeared, just- just the whole thing. Maybe that's what this is all about.

==Notes==
* A copy of the paper in the briefcase can be found [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=17890&p=610968&hilit=#p610968 here].
* The document that Jonas found reveals his last name to be Wharton.

Going Down

2008-07-03T04:00:30Z

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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' Here we are! Lake Clandon. (''Pans over the lake'') I'd really like to thank ooxxkt, Brandy, and Bear for helping me decode the documents that I found in the [[Resistance]] [[Lonelygirl15_minor_locations#Bunker_7|bunker]]. Thanks to you guys we figured out that the documents made up of signal flags and morse code contained a location, Lake Clandon, followed by a series of very, very vague instructions. I guess whoever wrote this things must have had some kind of a naval background. (''Sniffs'') Yeah, that smells like a clue. (''Cut to Jonas at the edge of the lake'') This is so... so weird. I've been here before. Yeah... I used to go fishing here with my [[Jonas's parents|dad]] when I was a kid. Maybe there was more to those trips than I thought. (''Cut to a tree and Jonas looking up it'') (''Laughs'') Ahh! I have no idea what I'm looking for to be honest. First part of the code translated as "Caldon Lake." Kay, we're here. But then it said, "by the marked tree," so... I'm guessing one of the trees around here's gotta have some sort of marking on it? I don't know. Keep your eyes open. Oh, yeah, I guess I gotta do that.

(''Cut to some fast footage of Jonas searching various trees'')

'''Jonas:''' And here we are at tree one billion six hundred and ninety seven thousand. I don't even know. Maybe I've already seen the mark. I mean, I don't even know what I'm looking for. (''Cut to Jonas kneeled at a tree. The camera pans from the bottom up until a Resistance symbol is seen''.) Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. That's a... that's a... what's it called? Theta? Theta (''snaps fingers'') Theta Pi! It's an anti-order symbol. It's the same one that Bree [[How Dumb Am I?|found]] in my parent's cabin. I think we've found our marked tree, people.

(''Cut to an angled shot from the ground of Jonas in front of the tree with his bag and equipment next to him''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Pulls out documents'') Okay, so here's the deal. This right here (''shows alpha naval signal flag upside down'') this is the signal... (''turns it right side up'') this is the signal flag for the letter A. It's also an abbreviation for "Diver Down." Yeah, diver down. So I guess... (''laughs'') I guess that means whatever I'm looking for is in the water. I'm going swimming! (''Stuffs documents into bag'') And the last part was in morse code and it said "black rock" so I'm looking for a black rock in the water. (''Sniffs'') Sounds easy. (''Grabs shovel'') Good thing I'm prepared, huh? (''Grabs the camera'')

(''Cut to Jonas crouched down in front of the camera in his bathing suit''.)

'''Jonas:''' Okay, so I guess I'm not as prepared as I thought. Didn't bring flip-flops. (''Sighs'') All right, anyway, (''clears throat'') I'm gonna have to leave you guys here for this part. Wish me luck. (''Goes to walk away'') This better be worth it. That's all I'm saying.

(''Jonas gets up and heads over to the water with his shovel. Noise from behind the camera can be heard''.)

'''Jonas:''' Big rocks, big rocks!

(''Jonas goes out of view and we hear footsteps approaching. Two gloved hands appear in the shot and begin rummaging through Jonas' bag. They pull out a pair of laboratory goggles. They fumble through the rope and finally find the documents underneath''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hey! Hey!

(''The gloved person fumbles with the documents but scoops them up and runs away''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Running after the person'') Hey! Ow! Damn it!

(''Cut to Jonas holding his bag close to the river''.)

'''Jonas:''' Okay, I don't know who that was. I was too far out. I couldn't really see. But I'm thinking I better get this done before they come back. What do you think? (''Walks down to the edge of the lake'') Let's get to digging.

(''Cut to fast footage of Jonas digging around in the water. Jonas picks up a black rock and examines it''.)

'''Jonas:''' Ha! Ha ha! (''Lifts up rock'') Ha ha ha ha! Ha! (''Runs over to the camera with the rock'') Black rock, same symbol. (''Throws rock down'') Got it.

(''Jonas goes back into the water and starts digging. Eventually, his shovel hits something. He begins to dig frantically and pulls out a silver briefcase and walks back to the camera''.)

'''Jonas:''' I got it! I got it. I got it.

(''Cut to Jonas with his shirt on under the tree'')

'''Jonas:''' All right, so this is what's inside. (''Holds up a plastic covered document with signatures'') It looks like... some sort of a mission statement and it's got a bunch of signatures on it. Right? So I did a quick check online. Every single name on here, signed in full, corresponds with every initial on my dad's [[The Order in the Modern Empire|thesis]]. My dad's name is on this paper alongside eleven other names including Michael Byron Carruthers. (''Gets louder'') As in... (''turns around to see if anyone is around and gets quieter'') as in [[Lord Carruthers]]. No, why would Lord Carruthers' name be on a Resistance document? I don't know. (''Grabs breifcase'') But we're gonna find out.

(''Cut to Jonas lying on the grass near his truck'')

'''Jonas:''' You know, when I think of this lake or this mission statement... (''sighs'') it makes me realize this is getting all very, very personal. You know, I started this trip out with Gina's drawings and now everything, everything's leading back to my parents. You know, when I first found out they were still [[Hey Dad|alive]], man... that's a feeling that's just impossible to describe. When they didn't [[A Family Affair|remember]] me, I just... I just kinda gave up on em. I gave up on ever knowing the truth about their role in the Resistance, what happened to them after they disappeared, just- just the whole thing. Maybe that's what this is all about.

==Notes==
* The arms belonging to the gloved hands were those of a Caucasian male or female. Lucy is an obvious suspect.
*Jonas posted a copy of the paper he found in the briefcase in his chat: http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=17890&p=610968&hilit=#p610968

Talk:Playing With Fire

2008-06-25T03:10:20Z

70.158.76.179: New page: really, is the fact that her natural accent have anything to do with this video? if my comments always get deleted and they have more to do with it than this one... how come this one isn'...

really, is the fact that her natural accent have anything to do with this video? if my comments always get deleted and they have more to do with it than this one... how come this one isn't, eh?

Bullet to the Head

2008-06-19T03:20:01Z

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| description = Jonas went INSANE!
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==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' I don't know what Jonas plans to do. He won't say anything to me but I know it's gonna be rough. And don't get me wrong, I want Carl gone as much as anyone but (''To Jonas'') we're not murderers. Right? (''Turns camera to Jonas'')

'''Jonas:''' We'll See. (''Jonas opens the door to Carl's room and sits down in front of Carl'') Well, Carl today's the big day. (''Taps gun a few times'') Cause I'm out of patience. But I do gotta say though, I'm kind of exicted.

'''Carl:''' Look, why don't you guys just let me go? Jonas, you're not gonna kill me.

'''Jonas:''' No. Nope, that's where you're wrong Carl. I am gonna kill you.

'''Daniel:''' Carl, just tell us what we wanna know. Anything. Come on man, we don't wanna kill you.

'''Jonas:''' Yes we do. I do. See I had a... an epiphany. Do you know what an epiphany is Carl? See, if he's not gonna, then talk he's worthless to us. (''Holds gun up to Carl's face'')

'''Daniel:''' Jonas... Carl, listen this is your last chance. Just give us something about [[Lord Carruthers|Carruthers]].

'''Carl:''' Okay. Carruthers financed the [[Salinas]] Campaign through [[Sacred Spirit]]. (''Looks at the camera, then at Jonas'')

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. And?

'''Carl:''' And it was millions. Carruthers is behind everything.

'''Jonas:''' Keep going.

'''Carl:''' And the plan was for Salinas to run for congress then governor then... Look, who knows what. Look, nothing happens without Carruthers. Look, now that [[Dr. William Porter|Porter's]] gone he's in charge.

'''Jonas:''' I'm sorry Carl. That just... (''Loads gun'') That just wasn't good enough. Do you got anything else?

'''Carl:''' I don't know anything else. I met him for the first time last week.

'''Daniel:''' And Gina?

'''Carl:''' Gina's gone, Daniel. Salinas took the body. Alright, you guys don't understand. [[The Order]] promised me everything I ever wanted and all I had to do was just... what ever they asked. I-I'm sorry, I didn't know what they were gonna do. I promise. (''Louder'') I promise, you guys.

(''Jonas cocks his gun''.)

'''Daniel:''' Jonas, can I talk to you for a second?

'''Jonas:''' (''Stands up'') Tell you what Carl. We'll be right back. (''Taps gun'') Don't go anywhere.

(''Jonas and Daniel walk out of room''.)

'''Jonas:''' This is bullshit.

'''Daniel:''' Why's it bullshit?

'''Jonas:''' Because he's not some stooge that was set-up.

'''Daniel:''' What if he is, huh? We can't kill him.

'''Jonas:''' He knew there was a contract on us and he knew where we were. He might as well pull the trigger himself. (''Pulls gun out of his pocket'') I'm settling this. (''Cut to Jonas standing next to Carl'') Why don't you give me a reason not to kill you, Carl?

'''Carl:''' (''Leans head back'') Okay. (''Swallows'') I know that you keep Bree's little purple puppet in a box under your bed.

'''Jonas:''' That's not true.

'''Carl:''' (''Chuckles'') Jonas. Jonas, Jonas, Jonas. Don't be so naive. Okay, I should have never mentioned anything about Carruthers. You know, what I realize now is someone's gonna kill me. Now whether it's you or them it doesn't matter.

'''Jonas:''' You're right. (''Holds gun to Carl's head'') It doesn't matter.

==Notes==

Talk:Tez on Toast

2008-06-12T05:19:05Z

70.158.76.179: New page: leave the notes alone... they are good facts to know.

leave the notes alone... they are good facts to know.

Tez on Toast

2008-06-12T05:18:45Z

70.158.76.179: /* Notes */

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==Transcript==
(''The Russell family is seen walking through a parking lot toward a park. Maggie carries Cody. Dave turns the camera on himself''.)

'''Dave:''' How can you tell if this is on?

'''Maggie:''' Dave, are you sure this is a good idea?

'''Dave:''' Yeah, yeah. It's all right, don't worry. It's just a passing drizzle.

'''Maggie:''' It's not picnic weather.

'''Dave:''' It's fine. Look, the kids are loving it.

'''Maggie:''' Well, I'm not.

(''The sound of a car door closing is heard in the background. Cut to the family walking in the park''.)

'''Dave:''' Let's head up over here. (''Points''.)

'''Maggie:''' You sure it's not too muddy? We should have put their boots on!

'''Dave:''' Look at Molly; she's loving it.

(''Dave pans to Molly kicking around a football, carrying an umbrella''.)

'''Dave:''' Having a good time, Molly?

'''Molly:''' Yeah!

(''Cut to Molly kicking the football toward a bench''.)

'''Dave:''' Here we go. Let's go on the park bench. We can have our picnic here.

'''Maggie:''' The park bench? Having a laugh, aren't you? Picnic here?

(''Cut to Maggie looking annoyed as she eats a crisp''.)

'''Dave:''' Here, Cody. Want a go? Yeah, you can be the next Steven Spielberg.

'''Molly:''' (''Grabbing the camera''.) Let ''me'' have a go!

'''Maggie:''' Careful, Molly.

'''Molly:''' Daddy, can I play with this?

'''Dave:''' Go easy with it, Molly.

(''Cut to Molly kicking around the football, carrying the camera. She kicks the football to a tree, where Terrence is waiting''.)

'''Terrence:''' Whoa-ho-ho! Careful, there, trouble. (''Takes the camera from Molly''.) Oh, look at this snazzy, jazzy camera, eh? Now what would your name be? Huh?

'''Maggie:''' Excuse me. Excuse me! (''Terrence looks up to find Maggie approaching''.) What do you think you're doing?

'''Terrence:''' Don't worry, madam, it's nothing to worry about. I was just wondering if--

(''Terrence hits Maggie over the head with a bottle. She screams and falls to the ground. Terrence laughs as Molly screams''.)

'''Dave:''' Mags! Hey!

(''Cut to Dave running over''.)

'''Terrence:''' Oh, hello. (''Finds a stick on the ground''.) That'll do nicely.

'''Dave:''' Oi!

(''Terrence picks up the stick and lobs it at Dave. He runs away, laughing. Cut to Terrence standing beneath a tree.''.)

'''Terrence:''' It's only me. (''Laughs''.)

(''Terrence continues to run until he finds another tree. Cut to Terrence standing beneath it, his shirt covered in blood''.)

'''Terrence:''' Well, anybody in my position would be a bit pissed off. Getting fed up with something they got nothing to do with. It's a bit of a pain, but I know who's responsible, and I'm gonna deal with them. I'm gonna enjoy it. 'Cause when I catch up with 'em, it's gonna be a bit, uh, it's gonna be a bit worse than a flesh wound.

And it was very wrong trying to tease me with the temptation of more [[Shadow]] drugs. It's something we're going to have to talk about and work out that detail alone.

(''Laughs''.) Well, I'm, uh, sorry I haven't been around for a bit. Well, I thought I should leave it; you know, after what happened with [[Kate]]. Do you think I left it long enough? Does, uh... does anyone remember? Does anyone care? (''Laughs''.) Oh, come on, she was annoying cow, though, wasn't she? All those arty-farty videos. Hey, my videos are gonna be much better.

Hello, [[Steve|Stevey]]. How's your [[The Celestial Network|Network]] coming along? I've joined. You know, I- I like the look of some of those members. [[Gavin]]! Oh, I guess you can't watch this where you are, can you? And I'm really sorry I didn't make it to [[Julia & Rupert|the wedding]], [[Julia|Jules]]. I'll have to find a way to make it up to you both somehow.

Well, in the mean time, I've got my own [[Bebo]] page now, haven't I? Yeah! (''Laughs''.) So send me some love, or whatever you do, and, uh... I'll be in touch.

==Notes==
* The name of this video and Terrence's Bebo nickname "tezontoast" is a reference to Charlie's nickname on Bebo "ChazOnToast"
* Terrence claims to have killed Kate on his new Bebo page: "I killed Kate...and nobody even said thank you."
* It is assumed in this video that Terrence had nothing to do with kidnapping Lauren.

Talk:No More Fear

2008-06-10T06:07:08Z

70.158.76.179: /* what? */

== what? ==
*emma said about gina: she took a deep breath (under water) and gathered all of her strength and just kept her body still 'til she was able to rise to the surface. the absurdity of this statement is too much for me to take. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
:*no this actually happens because human bodies are flamboyant and can rise to the surface. Ever heard of the "Dead Man's Float"?
::*Yes. Human bodies are very flamboyant. And when they take a deep breath under water, they have a tendency to take in water. Not air. The body tends to die when it is denied oxygen, no matter how colorful the individual's personality happens to be. - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

actually, as a lifeguard of seven and a half years and spending my entire life on swim team...i can vouch that if you just aim to do nothing, you'll go to the surface. now, if you were paying attention to emma... this is the sum of what i understood: Gina was flailing her arms...but it just didn't work... (flailing actually makes you sink more)... so she took a deep breath, stopped...probably sank...then came back up. I didn't get the impression that she took a deep "breath" underwater.

Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-06-10T06:04:35Z

70.158.76.179: /* Gina on the character row */

== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

Someone
tell
me
how
to
put
a
video
up!?

== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks.<br>
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome'''<br>Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this:<br>
{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<Br><br>I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.)<br><Br>
::Here:<br>
::{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<br><br>
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :)<br>
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]]<br><br>
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

== Steve on LG15? ==
should we add his pic to the LG15 page considering he's coming to the U.S?
:No more than we should have added Jonas to the KM portal because he was in the UK for a week. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== REMOVING SARAH? ==
Since Sarah has left TAAG, possibly temporarily, mabye we should remove her from the main character list and put her with the recurring characters?
Please Reply and tell me What you thnk. -Nigell
:I agree actually, but I'd give it until Monday. If she doesn't show up in Monday's video (or given an indication that she will be seen again soon) I support the move --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:35, 2 May 2008 (EST)
::I'd give it a little more time than that. Firstly, they've been mentioning Sarah almost CONSTANTLY lately, and secondly she's only been gone for a month. Give it another week, at the very least. Unlike when Tariq left KM, there was (and still is) no indication that she's left on a jet plane and plans to be gone for the better part of forever. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
::: I definitely think that we should wait longer, Sarah's been a main character for well over a year and she's been gone for only a month, if that. Besides, with all these threats and whatnot I foresee Carl trying to kill her to become an Elder and her fleeing back to TAAG. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

So wait, let me get this straight...my perfectly fine, cross-browser compatible design with one girl opposing the icons was violently reverted, but you went live with ''this''?
[[Image:Redesign failure season3.png|300px]]

Way to go, redesign heros. *rolleyes* Hope you're happy with your new and improved character row.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:58, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Oh, snap! Um, probably should have made sure to check browser compatibility, but I just assumed it was okay due to the lack of objections. I really hate to do this, but I imagine we have a lot of IE users, so I will revert the redesign again until we can get this resolved. Sigh.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:07, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::The problem doesn't appear in 7.0. I'm going to have to revert my browser edition just to see what the fuck happened. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:02, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:::As far as I can tell, this is 100% fixed now. (It works for certain in Safari, Firefox, and IE 6.0. 7.0 should work, since 6.0 does.) Should be good to go, Jon. (Oh, I made the main code change in the page code, so the includes should be good as-is.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:01, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thanks so much, Shi. I'll go ahead and re-add it. *crosses fingers*--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:12, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Well, well, it's about time we got this going..looks great everyone. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 14:14, 12 May 2008 (CDT)

Why is there no picture of Emma for main characters? {{unsigned|70.158.76.179}}
:She's not a main character. If she comes back and stays for a while, she'll be put back. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:31, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
I suppose I understand that... but then it brings the point of Bree not being a TRUE main character anymore. Technically, she is...although, she's not at all anymore if you are going by the definition aforementioned above. Same goes for Kate on KM.

==Main Character Merit==
Basically, I'd like to propose a guideline for when characters get their pictures in gray on the bar if they leave (i.e. Bree, Kate). What I propose is this: Their picture be added in gray on the main page if they've been killed off and if they:
:A) are the namesake of the series (i.e. Bree is lonelygirl15 and KateModern is named for Kate)
:B) The character has had 100 appearances in the series, not counting recap videos (as that stands the only characters that have achieved this are LG: Bree, Daniel, Jonas, and Sarah, and KM: Charlie (though as KM is ending soon, I suppose it would remain irrelevant).
I designed this so if, heaven forbid, Daniel gets shot by a watcher or Jonas sufficates to death underneath a pile of fangirls, they will be recognized for the large role they have had on the series. Thoughts? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 19 May 2008 (EST)
:I don't know if I agree. Firstly, grayed boxes signify dead people. That's just the way it goes. As to the B suggestion, though, things could get kind of crazy if DB ''and'' Jonas die and Gina and Jennie are left to fight the Order alone. We'd have three permanent additions to the character list, as well as however many really are currently main characters. Mind, this is just personal preference, but if Bree or Kate weren't the namesakes of either series, I'd probably be fighting to have them be removed. I love DB, but if he dies and isn't constantly referenced, he really shouldn't be on the main page. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 18:36, 19 May 2008 (CDT)

== Order of Characters ==

Earlier I reverted someone putting Sarah in front of Jennie because they didn't discuss or get anyone else's opinion on it, but I want to start a discussion on this. Why is Jennie before Sarah? And Gina is even before Jonas? I propose that Characters should be put in order of how long they have been there except of course Bree at the end in black and white. What does everyone else think? [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 22:26, 2 June 2008 (CDT)
:I really like the "normal" way of ordering the characters, but with these new icons I got, they looked really bad in that order, so I went with this, as it seemed the most aesthetically pleasing. I think for now it's the way to go, at least in my mind... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:28, 6 June 2008 (CDT)
Er, we need a B&W picture to go next to Bree now for Gina... ;_; - [[User:67.142.130.49|67.142.130.49]] 21:23, 7 June 2008 (CDT)

== Gina on the character row ==

What are peoples' thoughts about keeping Gina on the character row? Should she get a black and white photo like Bree? Should we wait for official confirmation of her death before removing her? Other questions? Answers? :)--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:17, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
:Personally, I don't really think it makes sense to have a B/W picture of Gina on the front page. If we included greyed out pictures for all former characters (I mean... Gemma died... so it's not like Gina's the only dead main character) the row would be huge! It makes sense to me to leave her up for a bit while they figure out what's going on with her death, but I think long-term, the only BW picture should be Bree, who is the show's namesake and all... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:58, 8 June 2008 (CDT)
::Keep on the character row as a B&W until such a time as the TAAG inevitably stops actively mourning her... maybe a little longer if that time is too short, who knows. Gemma wasn't really MAIN character material like Gina was, and no other main characters have died besides Bree and Kate before. - [[User:67.142.130.42|67.142.130.42]] 03:04, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::I agree with Zoey. Keep her up with a color picture until her death is 100% officially confirmed. I don't really like the idea of having b/w pictures for every dead character. Bree makes sense, as she is the title character, but we don't want a lot of clutter. But we definately shouldn't jump the gun on taking her off the row. You never know what could happen. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:40, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::Maybe keep the picture in color but replace her eyes with xs. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 10:45, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::Or just put a giant red bullseye on her forehead. LOL. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 10:47, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:[[No More Fear]] confirmed it. Gina is dead. I took her off the character row, as that seems to be the consensus. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:11, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I agree with the fact that the latest video has confirmed it. Gina was a main character - Gemma wasn't. She was apart of TAAG - Gemma wasn't. I think that anyone that was on the character's row to begin with should be greyed out when deceased. As far as I know, Gemma was never on the character row. She was never really that important. Gina, however, became apart of the LG15 family and it's only fair to include her. In case the final decision is made to keep her greyed, here's the image - I put it up but then took it down after the message was sent to me: 0485-Gina1-cropped-icon-grey.jpg - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::Just for the record, Gemma was absolutely on the character row when she was still on the show (which wasn't really a character row so much as just character boxes back then, but whatever). Also, she couldn't have been a part of TAAG, as the term didn't even exist back then. So... yeah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:33, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::No need to get snippy. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to be rude to me. Gina was apart of a big plot twist (Bree had a sister) and was a VERY important part of the story. Gemma... not so much. So... yeah... - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]
::::Sorry, I did not intend for my post to be rude and I apologize if it came off that way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:58, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:I think putting former characters on the character row is a horrible idea. You start to get into the whole "who's important enough, who isn't" question and you get unsightly clutter on what is a first impression of the Wiki to many newbies. Bree needs to be on the row in some form, as she is the title character, but other, less important characters like Gina and Gemma (who WAS definitely row worthy when she was a regular; she was just as important to the story then as Gina is today) don't need to be immediately accessed. That's what the larger "[[Lonelygirl15 characters]]" page is for. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 14:37, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::Yeah, I agree...but look what Gina has been reduced to. She was part of TAAG, and now she has a box that has less text than "[[Drew Avery]]" on the [[Lonelygirl15 characters]] page. That's not fair to Crystal at all.
:::That is beyond true! Crystal did such a good job acting and had such a well liked character - SOME recognition is deserved even if her character is deceased. I just don't like how this is turning into a "I'm high and mighty so my point is more valid" debate rather than a logical one. - [[User:Foreigncandle|Kaella]]

::I propose that we add a "memorial" page, and make it featured content or something. I know it's not very professional in terms of a wiki...but we have pages on "[[orange]]" and how it is such an evil color, so I'm not too worried about professionalism. The page could feature dead characters like Gina and Virgil and have pictures and blurbs about them. --[[User:Phisho|Phisho]] 15:53, 9 June 2008 (EST)
:::Something along those lines wouldn't be a bad idea at all. [[User:Malan70|Malan70]] 15:24, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
::::We could call it [[In Loving Memory]]! :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:05, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
:::::That is a fabulous idea! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 18:29, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

she should be on character row as bree was kept. sure she's not the main main character, but definitely a huge part of the plot from which most of the plot wouldn't be where it is if it wasnt' for her story... just gray out her pic. simple.

Tez on Toast

2008-06-10T06:03:09Z

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(''The Russell family is seen walking through a parking lot toward a park. Maggie carries Cody. Dave turns the camera on himself''.)

'''Dave:''' How can you tell if this is on?

'''Maggie:''' Dave, are you sure this is a good idea?

'''Dave:''' Yeah, yeah. It's all right, don't worry. It's just a passing drizzle.

'''Maggie:''' It's not picnic weather.

'''Dave:''' It's fine. Look, the kids are loving it.

'''Maggie:''' Well, I'm not.

(''The sound of a car door closing is heard in the background. Cut to the family walking in the park''.)

'''Dave:''' Let's head up over here. (''Points''.)

'''Maggie:''' You sure it's not too muddy? We should have put their boots on!

'''Dave:''' Look at Molly; she's loving it.

(''Dave pans to Molly kicking around a football, carrying an umbrella''.)

'''Dave:''' Having a good time, Molly?

'''Molly:''' Yeah!

(''Cut to Molly kicking the football toward a bench''.)

'''Dave:''' Here we go. Let's go on the park bench. We can have our picnic here.

'''Maggie:''' The park bench? Having a laugh, aren't you? Picnic here?

(''Cut to Maggie looking annoyed as she eats a crisp''.)

'''Dave:''' Here, Cody. Want a go? Yeah, you can be the next Steven Spielberg.

'''Molly:''' (''Grabbing the camera''.) Let ''me'' have a go!

'''Maggie:''' Careful, Molly.

'''Molly:''' Daddy, can I play with this?

'''Dave:''' Go easy with it, Molly.

(''Cut to Molly kicking around the football, carrying the camera. She kicks the football to a tree, where Terrence is waiting''.)

'''Terrence:''' Whoa-ho-ho! Careful, there, trouble. (''Takes the camera from Molly''.) Oh, look at this snazzy, jazzy camera, eh? Now what would your name be? Huh?

'''Maggie:''' Excuse me. Excuse me! (''Terrence looks up to find Maggie approaching''.) What do you think you're doing?

'''Terrence:''' Don't worry, madam, it's nothing to worry about. I was just wondering if--

(''Terrence hits Maggie over the head with a bottle. She screams and falls to the ground. Terrence laughs as Molly screams''.)

'''Dave:''' Mags! Hey!

(''Cut to Dave running over''.)

'''Terrence:''' Oh, hello. (''Finds a stick on the ground''.) That'll do nicely.

'''Dave:''' Oi!

(''Terrence picks up the stick and lobs it at Dave. He runs away, laughing. Cut to Terrence standing beneath a tree.''.)

'''Terrence:''' It's only me. (''Laughs''.)

(''Terrence continues to run until he finds another tree. Cut to Terrence standing beneath it, his shirt covered in blood''.)

'''Terrence:''' Well, anybody in my position would be a bit pissed off. Getting fed up with something they got nothing to do with. It's a bit of a pain, but I know who's responsible, and I'm gonna deal with them. I'm gonna enjoy it. 'Cause when I catch up with 'em, it's gonna be a bit, uh, it's gonna be a bit worse than a flesh wound.

And it was very wrong trying to tease me with the temptation of more [[Shadow]] drugs. It's something we're going to have to talk about and work out that detail alone.

(''Laughs''.) Well, I'm, uh, sorry I haven't been around for a bit. Well, I thought I should leave it; you know, after what happened with [[Kate]]. Do you think I left it long enough? Does, uh... does anyone remember? Does anyone care? (''Laughs''.) Oh, come on, she was annoying cow, though, wasn't she? All those arty-farty videos. Hey, my videos are gonna be much better.

Hello, [[Steve|Stevey]]. How's your [[The Celestial Network|Network]] coming along? I've joined. You know, I- I like the look of some of those members. [[Gavin]]! Oh, I guess you can't watch this where you are, can you? And I'm really sorry I didn't make it to [[Julia & Rupert|the wedding]], [[Julia|Jules]]. I'll have to find a way to make it up to you both somehow.

Well, in the mean time, I've got my own [[Bebo]] page now, haven't I? Yeah! (''Laughs''.) So send me some love, or whatever you do, and, uh... I'll be in touch.

==Notes==
* The name of this video and Terrence's Bebo nickname "tezontoast" is a reference to Charlie's nickname on Bebo "ChazOnToast"
* It is assumed that through this video that Terrence had nothing to do with Lauren's kidnapping, although he claims to know who did it. This can be found on comments on both Charlie and Terrence's pages...

Prom: It's To Die For - Part 4

2008-06-09T03:12:19Z

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'''Jennie:''' This is the beach where I made [[It's The Doing That Matters|that video]] talking about poverty. Thanks to everyone in the LG15 community, Daniel and Emma made it here safely.

''(Camera pans to Daniel who is on his computer, and Emma standing behind him.)''

'''Daniel:''' Well, we still need to find the others. There's been no word from them yet.

'''Emma:''' Do you really think you're gonna find them in the chatroom?

'''Daniel:''' I mean, probably not, but... I don't know, maybe somebody in here has a good idea about what to do next.

'''Jennie:''' I am really concerned that we haven't heard anything from Jonas yet. It's not like him at all. What?

'''Daniel:''' Wait a minute. Hey, someone in here says they saw Carl grab one of our cameras from the cabin.

'''Jennie:''' What do you mean?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, from your footage! They say that they see an arm reach down and grab one of the cameras. And they recognize it as being Carl's jacket!

'''Jennie:''' I guess he really was in on it.

'''Daniel:''' And if we want to get to Salinas, we need to find Carl and get that camera back.

'''Emma:''' Wait a second, what are you doing? We can't just leave, we don't even know if they're okay.

'''Jennie:''' Wait, I think Daniel might be right. I don't want to leave yet either, but I still have Carl's swipe-key. We can get into the [[Hymn of One]] Center... Start there! It might be more productive than sitting around here.

'''Daniel:''' Yeah.

'''Emma:''' Okay, well can you at least tell everybody in chat where we are just in case Sarah and Jonas check the site?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah, yeah.

'''Jennie:''' That's a good idea.

''(Cut to Daniel, Emma, and Jennie walking along the beach. Daniel is filming himself.)''

'''Daniel:''' I'm not sure, but maybe that other camera picked up something we didn't see. ''(Jonas shouts in the distance.)'' I mean, it could be our only lead, you know what I mean?

'''Jennie:''' Did you guys hear that?

'''Emma:''' What?

'''Jonas:''' Hey!

'''Jennie:''' Look! It's Jonas!

''(Emma runs up to Jonas and hugs him.)''

'''Emma:''' Hey! Oh my God.

'''Jonas:''' Are you okay?

'''Daniel:''' Dude, what's up, man?

'''Jonas:''' Are you alright?

'''Daniel:''' Yeah. Are you okay, man? ''(He hugs Jonas.)''

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. I'm alright. ''(Jonas hugs Jennie.)'' I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry I'm late, I saw on the website that you guys were coming here but my ''fucking'' cell phone died and I, and I couldn't call. I'm sorry.

'''Emma:''' No, I'm happy you're safe! ''(She hugs him again.)''

'''Jonas:''' Hey.

'''Emma:''' Oh my God.

'''Daniel:''' Have you heard from Sarah?

'''Jonas:''' No man, I'm sorry, I... I haven't.

''(Daniel walks off, disappointed. Cut to the group crouched down in the Hymn of One Center.)''

'''Daniel:''' Okay. We're here in the Hymn of One Center. Carl's swipe-key got us in, but it doesn't look like anybody's here. Go! Go! Go!

''(They hurry down the hallway, keeping low.)''

'''Jennie:''' ''(whispering)'' Somebody's here! Somebody's here!

''(Camera cuts to a nearby room. Salinas, Carl, Lucy, and a person in a hooded black cloak are standing around talking.)''

'''Salinas:''' It is a great honor to be in your presence. (Inaudible)... during my forthcoming ascension. To prove that I am worthy of your patronage I brought you a gift, brought to us by our (inaudible) young Carl here. I present to you, Lord Carruthers, footage, proof that one of our enemies has fallen.

'''Jennie:''' What should we do?

'''Emma:''' A distraction, it always works.

'''Jonas:''' Emma! No, no, no, no! Don't you dare!

'''Emma:''' Why?

'''Jonas:''' Not this time. You're too valuable to them. Besides, (pulls out a handgun) I have a plan. Alright listen, it's now or never. Emma and Jennie, you guys go out front and wait for us, alright?

'''Emma:''' (to Jennie) Alright c'mon. (Jennie and Emma run off)

'''Jonas:''' (to Daniel) Let's go get 'em. Are you ready? (Jonas makes a noise, possibly a gunshot)

'''Lucy:''' (Shown escorting Lord Carruthers out of the room) It's not safe.

''(Jonas and Daniel sneak around the corner to the room where Salinas and Carl are. Jonas holds up the gun to Salinas.)''

'''Jonas:''' Okay. Okay, give me the camera. I said give me the camera!

'''Salinas:''' No. If you really wanted it, you would have shot us by now.

'''Carl:''' Jonas, don't do this.

'''Jonas:''' (Points gun at Carl) Carl, why don't you shut the fuck up! Alright, I'll deal with you later. Alright? That's a promise. (Points gun back at Salinas) Now you, I'm not kidding.

'''Salinas:''' I think you are. If there were any bullets in that gun, we'd all be dead by now, but there aren't, are there?

''(Jonas hits Salinas in the face with the gun, knocking him down. He then grabs the camera from Carl and he and Daniel run out of the building.)

''(Camera cuts to Emma, on her laptop, back outside.)

'''Daniel:''' Upload it.

'''Emma:''' Okay. (Looks at camera) Here's the final piece.

''(Cuts to Gina's perspective at Prom.)

'''Gina:''' (Putting on makeup in front of a mirror.) I'm not very good at this. I've never put on eyeliner before. I think it's even, at least I hope so. I don't know though; putting on this dress and, doing my makeup and big hair, I didn't think I'd feel this normal. (Hears a knock on the door) Yes?

'''Emma:''' (Walks in) Hi. Will you come on? It took you 6 HOURS to buy this dress and now it's taking you 7 to get ready.

'''Gina:''' I know, I just...

'''Emma:''' I know, and you look beautiful, you do. But prom is going to be over before you even step onto the dance floor.

'''Gina:''' Okay, okay bossy... bossy.

'''Emma:''' (Laughs) Let's go.

'''Gina:''' (Blows kiss to the camera) Bye!

''(Camera cuts to the dance floor)

'''Gina:''' (Dancing) Tonight's donation? What's he talking about?

'''Emma:''' Dude, dude forget about Salinas. Check it out. Our evil plan is working! Look!

'''Gina:''' Oh, wow!

''(Camera cuts over to the deck, showing Sarah and Daniel getting very friendly with one another.)

'''Gina:''' This is like a real prom! (Rest of this part is inaudible.)

''(Cuts to a few moments later. Daniel, Sarah, Jonas, and Jennie are out on the deck talking.)

'''Gina:''' What's going on out there?

'''Emma:''' I don't know. I'll check it out. (Goes out to the deck.) Hey guys, what is going on?

'''Gina:''' Okay. (Looks at the camera and shrugs.)

''(Carl walks in.)

'''Carl:''' Hey Gina?

'''Gina:''' Yeah?

'''Carl:''' Can um... can I just talk to you for... (trails off.)

'''Gina:''' Yup. Okay, sure. (The two sit down on the couch.)

'''Carl:''' Um. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry.

'''Gina:''' For what?

'''Carl:''' For putting you guys in danger.

'''Gina:''' Oh, it's okay. Emma saved you, and now we're all here. (Carl looks upset and starts stammering a bit.) Carl, is everything okay? You seem a little...

'''Jonas:''' (Storms into the room) You! You! Can you explain this? (Holds up the Hymn of One swipe key, found in Carl's car)

''(Jonas and Carl start fighting. The girls all start yelling at him.)

'''Gina:''' What is going on?! (Jonas tackles Carl to the ground and starts punching him while Daniel stands above them.) What are you doing?

'''Jonas:''' (Looks back at the others) Get some rope!

''(Cuts to Jonas standing next to Carl, who is unconscious and has been tied up and strapped to a chair)

'''Jonas:''' Hey.

'''Gina:''' Is he awake?

'''Jonas:''' No, no he's not awake. But when he does wake up, we're gonna have a lot of questions to ask him, okay? C'mon.

''(Cuts to the dance floor. Sarah walks up to Daniel, grabs his hand, and walks him out of the room)

'''Daniel:''' Okay?

'''Emma:''' We should go.

'''Jennie:''' I don't know...

'''Gina:''' Go where?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, you know, I think that's a good idea. We could put him in the trunk, take him back to the house and question him there.

'''Emma:''' (Points to Jonas) Jonas, what's on your forehead?

''(A laser is seen on Jonas' forehead.)

'''Gina:''' Jonas get down! (Jumps forward and pushes Jonas out of the way, taking the bullet herself.)

''(Gina falls to the ground. Screams, shattering glass, and footsteps are heard as the camera focuses on Gina lying on the floor.)

'''Jonas:''' (Holds Gina's wrist) I don't feel a pulse. (Another gunshot and more broken glass is heard.) Run! Everybody run!

'''Emma:''' (Screaming) Everybody run!

''(Emma and Jonas' feet are seen stepping over Gina's body. Lucy's feet are also seen walking past Gina.)

{{transcript incomplete}}

==Notes==
*The shot of Carl being tied up is very similar to the shots of Jonas in [[Interrogation 101]] and [[Steve]] in [[The Prisoner]].
*Although Gina claims she has never put on eyeliner before, she has worn it in numerous other videos most visibly in [[Backyard Bikini Patrol]].
*This video contains Lucy's first official line of dialogue in the entire LG15 series.

Coconuts

2008-06-04T06:09:43Z

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==Notes==
After uploaded this video, Julia posted on her Bebo page pictures of her and Rupert. http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?PhotoAlbumId=7924260503

Speakers' Corner

2008-06-03T08:34:35Z

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==Notes==
Steve wrote a blog after this video entitled: "Is The Network A Waste Of Time?"
''Hey everyone, I've been starting to question a few things lately. Namely....what am I doing with the Celestial Network? I truly believe in the ideas that gave birth to this community and I really feel like I've helped to bring people together. Talking to Charlie the other day made me think, though. Is this just something I'm doing to avoid facing up to the real world? Between the Hymn of One, chasing after the Order and now the Network, its been a long time since I really had to think about the normal things that people have to get on with. It's so important but am I just burying my head in the sand? Its not going to help me get a job or anything is it? I can't just carry on living in this fantasy world, can I? What do you think? I need to know if the Network really matters to people.''

Straight To The Top

2008-05-22T03:31:26Z

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Talk:Portal:lonelygirl15

2008-05-19T07:53:21Z

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== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

Someone
tell
me
how
to
put
a
video
up!?

== Wierd..... ==

Who
else
has
acsees
to
Brees
YouTube
account?

== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks.<br>
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome'''<br>Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this:<br>
{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<Br><br>I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.)<br><Br>
::Here:<br>
::{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<br><br>
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :)<br>
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]]<br><br>
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

== Steve on LG15? ==
should we add his pic to the LG15 page considering he's coming to the U.S?
:No more than we should have added Jonas to the KM portal because he was in the UK for a week. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== REMOVING SARAH? ==
Since Sarah has left TAAG, possibly temporarily, mabye we should remove her from the main character list and put her with the recurring characters?
Please Reply and tell me What you thnk. -Nigell
:I agree actually, but I'd give it until Monday. If she doesn't show up in Monday's video (or given an indication that she will be seen again soon) I support the move --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:35, 2 May 2008 (EST)
::I'd give it a little more time than that. Firstly, they've been mentioning Sarah almost CONSTANTLY lately, and secondly she's only been gone for a month. Give it another week, at the very least. Unlike when Tariq left KM, there was (and still is) no indication that she's left on a jet plane and plans to be gone for the better part of forever. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
::: I definitely think that we should wait longer, Sarah's been a main character for well over a year and she's been gone for only a month, if that. Besides, with all these threats and whatnot I foresee Carl trying to kill her to become an Elder and her fleeing back to TAAG. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

So wait, let me get this straight...my perfectly fine, cross-browser compatible design with one girl opposing the icons was violently reverted, but you went live with ''this''?
[[Image:Redesign failure season3.png|300px]]

Way to go, redesign heros. *rolleyes* Hope you're happy with your new and improved character row.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:58, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Oh, snap! Um, probably should have made sure to check browser compatibility, but I just assumed it was okay due to the lack of objections. I really hate to do this, but I imagine we have a lot of IE users, so I will revert the redesign again until we can get this resolved. Sigh.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:07, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::The problem doesn't appear in 7.0. I'm going to have to revert my browser edition just to see what the fuck happened. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:02, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:::As far as I can tell, this is 100% fixed now. (It works for certain in Safari, Firefox, and IE 6.0. 7.0 should work, since 6.0 does.) Should be good to go, Jon. (Oh, I made the main code change in the page code, so the includes should be good as-is.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:01, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thanks so much, Shi. I'll go ahead and re-add it. *crosses fingers*--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:12, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Well, well, it's about time we got this going..looks great everyone. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 14:14, 12 May 2008 (CDT)

Why is there no picture of Emma for main characters? {{unsigned|70.158.76.179}}
:She's not a main character. If she comes back and stays for a while, she'll be put back. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 11:31, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
I suppose I understand that... but then it brings the point of Bree not being a TRUE main character anymore. Technically, she is...although, she's not at all anymore if you are going by the definition aforementioned above. Same goes for Kate on KM.

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== New Jonas Picture? ==
Crazy! I love it! I provided an option for a new photo for Jonas on the main page discussion, but it seems like it would be more useful on this page now.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] Reposted from July 11]]

:Actually, the consensus from before was a yes, and I think he looks darn good there too, so um, if no one objects by say, tommorow, why don't I change the pic? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
::I'm a fan of the latest pic of Jonas (now that its clearer), but I won't really mind if it was changed. I do wonder though -- is there the chance we could that the names of the characters can be placed to the left of their respective picture, with the lettering going up-to-down?? Then maybe the pics won't look so broken up . . . Anyways, great job to everyone who helped with the remodeling!--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:28, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
:::Really Pheon?? That was actually one of my favorite parts of the design! I felt like each character had their own little "pedistol" if you will. Kind of said, "look at me. I am important." Haha, I don't know, I guess we could see what other people think, but like I said, this is one of my favorite parts of the design atm! :o --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

[EDIT] I did some mockups to see how it would look, and ugh, it came out bad. I mean, I can try to redo them if you want (I didn't save), but meh. Like I said.. character... pedastol... yay! xP. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:14, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
:Well, I'm not an expert of wiki-codes, so if you said the attempt turned out bad, then it probably did. Eh, it's sorta growing on me . . . :P --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:46, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I like this pic, but it doesn't match well with the others. I would be in favor of updating the other pics with ones that look better with this pic, but until then I think we should leave the one thats up there now. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:34, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I edited the Portal with this pic and previewed it and I think it looks great with the others. We should change it! [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]]

== Spencer ==

If spencer is on the portal for main characters, then shouldn't he be on the character template as a main character..--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]]([[User talk:Houdini|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Houdini|contribs]])
:However, isn't he only going to be a main character for two months?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
I agree. If he's only here for two months, we can always remove him. I say, once a character has posted a blog that ends up on the main LG15 site, it is fair to consider them a "main blogging character". I'd also move him up on the [[Characters]] page as well. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:52, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

== Screenshots? ==
Seriously, where are they? The last couple of videos just straight up don't have them, and they don't seem to be on the KMPortal either. Is this just lack of time, or are we changing that idea around? If it's lack of time, I'll do it myself... I just wanted to make sure. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 17:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
:I thought the same thing too, until I realized that something's up with downloading pics. If you see some of the latest vids like [[Mission Possible]] & [[Proceed with Caution]] pictures are downloaded, but the only thing that shows up is, '' 'Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg' ''. Anyone know how to fix this?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:24, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
::Yeah, that thing is pretty frustrating. :/ --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
:Well, it's fixed now! Big thanks whoever did it!! --[[user:jeans|jeans]]

== Missions ==

This is gonna sound egotistical or whatever that is but...do you think we should put the missions page on this portal. I know me and silver made it, but it is a big part of the series. Well everyone decides.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

== OpAphid ==

OpAphid is no longer part of lg, by direction of [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] we are to post OpAphid videos in maddison's section only. Please stop posting it here. TY --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 00:06, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

== Someone!!! ==

Someone
tell
me
how
to
put
a
video
up!?

== Wierd..... ==

Who
else
has
acsees
to
Brees
YouTube
account?

== Outdating ==

Is there anyway we can maybe move Bree on the main page to a heading saying, "Deceased" or something? She's not going to be posting anymore videos, sadly... and I think here pretty soon we're going to need to remove or move Spencer... and honestly, maybe even add Emma. I know right now we're in a transition, but Bree IS something that can be taken care of. Just a suggestion. [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)Greenie

:I don't think a "deceased" category is necessary. Those who do watch the series know Bree is dead, and those who newly come to it don't want to be spoiled right on the portal. As for removing/adding people, so far, Spencer is credited with 22 appearances, while Emma is credited with 3 - while I agree with you that Spencer should be removed if he doesn't take part in the series anymore, I think we should at least wait with the switch until Emma has made at least something like 10 appearances - just to be sure she's not just some kind of guest character that's gonna be dropped the day after tomorrow.
:i think anybody who has used the internet in the past two months knows that bree is dead. there is no need to worry about spoiling anything. haha... - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]

:And in the end, don't forget [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-spencergilman there is a petition running] to bring Spencer back - who knows, maybe the Creators listen for once.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:30, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::I was thinking perhaps we should give Bree a "Deceased" heading of some form too, but I like your reasoning, Renegade. We don't want to spoil fans if we can help it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Renegade, I agree about the spoilers.... what about a non-active category or something? Bree still deserves to be main page... but she's just... not here anymore. Also, I was thinking that Emma needs to wait until she either does her own blog episode, or has been around for awhile. I'm going to the petition to sign it, because I really like Spencer... -Greenie [[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 01:10, 7 September 2007 (CDT)
What if you simply made her picture gray instead of calling her deceased. Then she'll remain part of the cast picture, but is simply set apart. It also won't spoil anything. It may trigger that she is somehow different, but it won't make people automatically assume she's dead. Just a thought. '''-- Evergreen -- Sept. 15, '07 11:28 AM EST'''
:I agree that there should be something done differently, like making her picture grey. I noticed the update on the main page. Now what about Emma? Also, Taylor hasn't been posting much. And now it seems Mallory has made a blog. I'd like to see if she makes any more blogs, and if she gets more involved in the fight against the Order. I think there might be a lot of updating to do soon, but I really feel Emma might be approaching main page, honestly. -Greenie[[User:205.243.71.71|205.243.71.71]] 13:23, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I find the picture order a little strange on the main page. I see that it's "alphabetical", but... I dunno. I think a Jonas-Daniel-Emma-Sarah or Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma order would make more sense, seeing as Jonas and Daniel seemed to have taken over as the co-main-main characters of the show. Also for Bree's picture, is there any way to make the picture black white and shades of gray? I dunno, just a thought. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 11:38, 26 September 2007 (EST)

:I also think the portal page are getting a bit outdated - 6 months has made a lot of difference in all the main character's appearance, no? And I agree that it might be time to add Emma to the portal page. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
::Seeing as Emma is now Missing/kidnapped, I'd hold off on her for a bit . . . and are we going to be seeing Taylor in a vid soon? I'm getting worried she may not come back! And as for pics, we may need to update them, but not any recent picture will do (it's going to take a lot to beat the Daniel one :P )--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree wholeheartedly that "Daniel in sombrero" is nearly impossible to beat! But I do think he looks great in this one: [[Image:LG291Daniel cropped.jpg|90px]] Though it is a WHOLE different Daniel... which was really kinda my point, that they've changed a lot, both in appearance and in their heads. -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 04:55, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

== New Series Portal Images ==

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waste my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 4:05 PM}}
::Honestly, this SHOULD be on the Main Page Discussion, since that's where this pic'll end up. But anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
:::Oh, crap. I didn't even realize I put this here, ooops. Haha. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:22 PM}}

== Emma ==

Sorry, I recently added Emma in the character section. I didn't think about having it approved...Der >.< I was gonna to, but I didn't so....My fault.

Erm, so....should we add Emma? I mean, she is the next trait positive girl.... --[[User:free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 22:206, 27 September 2007

== New Bree Portal Image ==
I know, I'm supposed to post something on the talk page. My bad. But the whole gray box thing just didn't sit quite right with me. The edits can be reversed if necessary, but I just think the graying of the picture might look better (Anyone who watches Big Brother knows what I'm talking about. In the house there is a wall with pictures of all the players. When a player is evicted, their picture turns black and white). --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:10, 28 September 2007 (EST)
:I think the idea was that she would get both a black/white image AND a gray box... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:25, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I'm going to be bold and suggest that Gemma and Spencer (who were once main characters in their own right) to be re-added to the front page under Bree's Format (it would look something like [[User:FH14/Sandbox|this]]. What does Everyone think? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 00:34, 30 September 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, I saw that, but I think I have to disagree. There are plenty of other formerly main characters who could go up there, and all you really do is open up a can of worms. Like why not Jules? Or Aunt Alex? Op/Tach/Bro? I could go on... I mean, I think Bree should still be up there because she IS lonelygirl15, but other than that, people can find the characters through the character pages. That's how I see it at least. What do other people think? (Oh and while I'm thinking of it, how do people feel about the shade of grey used for Bree's box right now? Too light? Too dark? Just right? Let me know! Thanks!) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:45, 29 September 2007 (CDT)
:: What if the box was a little bit more of a bluish gray? --[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 08:06, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
I think if Bree's staying, Gemma and Spencer should too. They're both main characters. Just because a main character dies halfway through a movie doesn't mean they shouldn't be at the top of the credits. If the part they HAD was huge, it shouldn't make a difference.
:::Exactly. Also, Zoey, I see your point about Jules, Alex, Tach/Bro/Op, etc. All Were supporting Characters more than anything. They were either only present for a few weeks, pop up about once a month, etc. (The only one who would have a strong case for a main character is Alex, but it's still stretching it a bit.) Gemma and Spencer posted several blogs and had a large impact and interaction with the plot during their times, and deserve credit. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:04, 2 October 2007 (EST)

::::#The series is frickin' ''named'' after Bree.
::::#250 episodes are a little more than Gemma's few side-vids or Spencer's half a dozen appearances.
::::It's just a major difference if you take a vanished supporting off the portal, or the namesake and series lead for 250 episodes.
::::Not to mention that greying out is already way too spoilertastic for my taste. Taking her off would majorly spoil newcomers.
::::There is a ''reason'' people are pissed about Bree's death - just like a lonelygirl15 ''series'' doesn't work without a lonelygirl15, a ''portal'' doesn't, either. You can't have a portal to Bree's series without her.
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:10, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::Keep Bree until/unless the C's give us a new cast photo. It wouldn't be unusual for a new cast photo to come out each season for a TV show, and when it does, that's what you use. Old cast pics would then get relegated elsewhere. I'm no rush to excise bree from the portal. You know, Bree's eyes used to appear on EVERYP AGE of the original lonelygirl15.com, it was quite freaky. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 15:38, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::::::For the record, we didn't even get a cast photo when we specifically and directly asked for one, multiple times, even after Amanda promised one.
::::::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:42, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
::::::::: Which basically means Bree will on the page forever, until we find a new cast photo pop up in some magazine somewhere. Maybe if someone with graphics skills worked up a cartoon version of the current cast to use in the meantime, it might come sooner . :-) --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 16:15, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
I'm not quite understanding the whole "spoliers" reasoning. There's a message at the top of the Main Page that states that: ''All pages on this encyclopedia are written from an all-knowing point of view. If you have not seen all episodes of a series yet, and don't want to see SPOILERS, do not read further''. I know how unbelieveably MAJOR Bree was. But Gemma and Spencer were on the Portal Page at one point to. Am I suggesting Gemma and Spencer fall under the same category of MAIN MAIN Character as Bree does. No. That honor belongs to only her, Daniel, and Jonas (and if the character continues at the pace she has: Sarah). But Keep in Mind that Gemma and Spencer had just as much imput and impact on the Story during their time as Bree did throughout the entire first Season. (BTW, I never suggested that Bree's picture be taken down in any way, shape, or form. I apologize if I came across that way.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:42, 2 October 2007 (EST)

:There's a big difference between ''the text'' giving away information you don't want to know, and ''the page itself''. If you want to, you can consciously not read the text of a page - but you can't not look at the page itself. If somebody just wanted to click through to [[Product placement]], for example, he can do so without being spoiled by the episode descriptions simply by not reading them - but the fact that Bree is grey and not in the first position (or gone as a whole) is pretty frickin' obvious, and you can't ignore it - no matter if you've just seen My Fatal Mistake or First Blog.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:14, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
:::I agree with you, but Bree needs to be differentiated somehow, as she is a former character of the show. (BTW, her death has been advertised all over the internet, 99% of internet users probably know she's dead anyway; though I do agree the other 1% deserves to be able to find it out by watching the episode where she dies and not from here.) My best suggestion would be this - Make a more obvious and noticeable spoiler tag. Or maybe this: On a website for a book series I like, there are certain portions of the site that can only be accessed if you answer to the following statement: ''The following pages contain spoilers. These are to be read by those who have seen all Episodes of Lonelygirl15 (or KateModern, in regards to the other Portal). If you have not, you are entering at your own risk '''LEAVE, ENTER''''' - or something like that? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 18:30, 2 October 2007 (EST)

== Current Main Characters?? ==

I think it's pretty clear who the current main (blogging) characters are: That is, Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Mallory, Emma. I think that the main page needs to reflect that (while please keeping grayed-out Bree). Yay or nay? ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:02, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

Yay.
Taylor should be taken off the list ... she's been gone for about a month now.

:Agreed. Though maybe a different order? Jonas-Daniel-Sarah-Emma-Mallory? In Season One it was Bree as the Main Character with Jonas and Daniel as the two sidekicks. Now I'm getting the vibe that it's Jonas as the new main character with Daniel and Sarah as the two sidekicks. (And Bree should be on the front page too, of course.) --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:02, 4 October 2007 (EST)
::I'm down with that order. The big challenge is finding "headshots" for Em and Mal, now.. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:07, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
Ach... sorry, I didn't see that this discussion was already going on up above. But seriously, I think it's time to change it... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 13:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
:::Actually, the discussion above is more focused on Bree's portal image, and how former main characters should be treated. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 14:38, 4 October 2007

I am going to officially combine my reply to the above discussion and this one, simply because I am too lazy to type this out twice. I am strongly opposed to putting Gemma and Spencer (or any ''former'' character besides Bree) on the main page, simply because they are just that... "former" characters. There are plenty of other ways to find out about major former characters, including the [[Characters]], the bottom indexes on many of the other character's pages, and the video pages themselves that the characters appear in. The only reason I think Bree is should stay is because she ''is'' lonelygirl15. She is not currently an active character.. CERTAINLY not an active blogging character.. so I don't think she should look the same as all the other characters. Hence the greying. I think, aside from setting her apart in a good way, it kind of shows that we're in "mourning" for her.. so to speak. Now, about switching the characters. After watching recently, I think I can agree that the characters should be: Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, Emma, Mallory, (Bree). Please make sure though, that as you get new images you keep all the character's heads a fairly consistant size. Consistancy = good :)

So can anyone get some pics of Emma and Mallory?

== Opinions on new news design? ==

Hey everyone...the plain, lame news-design always bothered me, so I designed a new one today. Could you all tell me what you think of it, what might have to be improved, and, most importantly, if it negatively affects your loading times? Thanks.<br>
Known problems:
*Light initials are sometimes hard to read
*Faction-/statusless videos have an extra line (easy fix, just have to discuss something with Z first)
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:23, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

: I love the concept, but ... the background colors - are they in relation to who's blogging? I can't say I'm a big fan of the yellow, but these are very minor things - I think the idea is terrific!! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 14:02, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::Thanks :)
:::'''Yellow:''' Newest vid.
:::'''Lighter grey:''' Even episode numbers.
:::'''Darker grey:''' Odd episode numbers.
:::'''Dark purple-ish grey:''' Videos with no "real" number, i.e. those containing letters.
::Usually, this'd lead to the first one being yellow, and the other three having alternating row colors - it just looks weird right now because Nikki posted, and she has the NaN color. Check out [[Portal:KateModern]] to see how it looks without non-canon vlogs in the list.
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:15, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

::I won't deny that I prefer the older version better (hey, it was what I was used to), but ''it is'' growing on me. :D Good job, Renegade, though I too must ask we pick a different color than yellow. That, and can we still post non-video updates like we have in the past? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:18, 9 October 2007 (CDT)
:::lol...that reminds me of something I read just a few hours ago...
:::{{quote|[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/09/30-usability-issues-to-be-aware-of/ Smashing Magazine]|'''Baby-Duck-Syndrome'''<br>Baby Duck Syndrome describes the tendency for visitors to stick to the first design they learn and judge other designs by their similarity to that first design. The result is that users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems. This results in the usability problems most re-designs have: users, get used with previous designs, feel uncomfortable with new site structure they have to find their way through.}}
:::hehe...but as long as it's growing on you :D
:::As for the events, that's a [[Template:Event|separate template that I didn't touch]] - I can think of no reason why it shouldn't work.
:::And about the yellow...meh. I like it, I think it works, but if I'm the only one, I guess we'll have to change it. Any suggestions? Blue, red and gray are used extensively on the portals, so they're probably not a good choice. Purple-ish is used by non-canon. It also shouldn't be similar to current character colors, and should provide enough contrast to stand out.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 15:34, 9 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: Heh, we've imprinted. I don't have a suggestion for a color yet, but will think about this all day today. -[[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 02:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

:::: I like the yellow. It screams "new video." If yellow is too much, then maybe a green color? Meh, I dunno. I just like green is all... -[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] ([[User talk:Free2liv4evr|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Free2liv4evr|contribs]]) 02:56, 12 October 2007 (PST)
::::: Okay, the yellow is growing on me. And now it will always remind me of a baby duck. :-) - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 05:07, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

== Brand New Images ==

So after much discussion over the last few months about the characters and their portal images, I decided to be a lameo and spend most of my Saturday night finding and cropping new pictures. I think they came out really good, and everyone I've asked so far has agreed, but I wanted to know what you guys thought before I made anything official :)

[[User:Zoey/sandbox]] Ta da!

I'm looking for images where they look really good.. then I'm trying to get equalish saturation levels within the pictures and I want all their heads to be about the same size and proportion within the shot. So what do you think? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:34, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:Well, you probably know I love those two pictures of Jonas and Daniel - and overall I think it looks great. The colors in the pictures of Sarah and Mallory are a good bit warmer than the others, but something about the way they're ordered makes it work well regardless! - [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 10:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I really like it. It was time for a change. -- [[User:Bree is awesome|Bree is awesome]] 12:28, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:I vote... Yes to Zoey's design! It looks great! --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:41, 21 October 2007 (EST)

::Yay, I'm so so glad you like it! I'm still messing around with Bree a bit, I want to make sure we get her the ABSOLUTE BEST IMAGE we possibly can. So if you could keep an eye on her and let me know which ones you like/don't like, that'd be great. Otherwise.. if there are no objections in a bit, I'll go ahead and make the changes :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 13:00, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

:::Oh, I really like it, Zoey. Brava. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 01:41, 24 October 2007 (CDT)

==Dates for videos==
I was under the impression that videos posted on the same day should have only the newest one list the date, but Renegade keeps reverting. Am I wrong on this one? I won't change it anymore until we reach a consensus on the issue. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (CST)
:I say they all should list the date.
::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">  '''•Silver•'''  </font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 December 2007 (CST)
::Same here, they should all list the date when listed --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 03:38, 2 January 2008 (CST)
:::Of course they should...not only is the other option optically inferior, it's also confusing - how is someone who's coming two days later going to know all vids were on the same day? Somebody might just have forgotten to add the date, just like we sometimes have no forum link.
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 10:57, 2 January 2008 (CST)

== 'Breeniverse' ==

This name is on the main page a lot.. seems a bit awkward considering she's quite..well dead. Another term perhaps?
:It's the term the Creators used so far. We're open for suggestions, but "lonelyverse" kind of sounds depressive, and "danielverse" and "jonasverse" are just as personal. "Orderverse" sounds like the Order is the protagonist. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:79.73.187.201|79.73.187.201]] ([[User talk:79.73.187.201|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.73.187.201|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]])

== New portal image ==

So i went ahead and made one to show you guys, posting it here cause the main page is locked.

What do you think?

[[Image:PORTALIMAGEs3sm.jpg]]

--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]

:The main page will likely be redesigned right after the lg15 portal, as such it is not yet foreseeable whether your new image will be applicable.
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 13:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

::While Renegade has a point (they may release new production pictures with Jennie & Gina, who knows?), that's a pretty awesome image, Michiev! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:02, 27 January 2008 (CST)

== New portal title image. ==

I made an image so that we can make a new title image for the lonelygirl15 portal.

it would look like this:<br>
{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lonelygirl15_Portal_Title_2.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<Br><br>I'm a little rusty with photoshop, so the LG15 logo still has marks around it. I can also make headers for some other articles, too. (that is, if we decide to use them.) {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 8:58 PM}}
:I like it, but there are two problems with it: 1) I think Ren's trying to tweak out a new portal version for Zoey, which would make the header silly. 2) The new promo images hint that the LG15 font may change ''again'', so we should probably wait for that, as well. (Also, just out of curiosity, where'd you get the font sample from? It's extremely pixelated.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:08, 3 February 2008 (CST)
::Flickr. It wasn't pixelated though. I just resized it and because I'm not very good with making things transparent, I reached for the magic wand. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:43 PM}}
::Oh, I made a new version that's less... bad (just because it was bugging me.)<br><Br>
::Here:<br>
::{{header|1=<span style="position: relative; top: 10px;">[[Image:Lg15portaltitle.png]]</span>|off=yes}}<br><br>
::an improvement, but we won't use it anyways so this is kind of pointless... baha. {{User:-R-/SignatureS|Feb. 03, '08 - 9:54 PM}}

== GINA ==

Put up sideline pitcure of Gina

RESPOND!
RESPOND
RESPOND
RESPOND
:You know, impatience will get you nowhere. She's not exactly a main character yet. Heck, Emma can't even be written off as a main character. Patience, young padawan, patience. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:28, 21 February 2008 (CST)

#1 Shiori scares me. scares me BAD. #2 THANKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

== Emma's Actress: Fired? Quit? Emma never appearing again? WE NEED NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPOND ==

Please Respond!

== YouWish8=AUNTALEX'S ACCOUNT? ==

New Response Video Made. CLAIMS: Shadows are people on a lot of drugs that make sure they never sleep, and
(these drugs) kill them when they are thirty. Who Posted It and aparently started the video with her face then montage/redub?
Why, none other than Jonas's Aunt, Alex. Should it be a featured video? Respond Here:
:Fan-made videos do not get featured on the Portal page - typically they get listed on the right side of the main page. The Portal page is to feature official videos and official important news, and that's about it. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:42, 2 March 2008 (CST)

==JONAS'S PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE==

:Why is his photo darkened still? before I thought it was darkened to portray his mood at the time..when he was drinking and depressed. But why is it still darkened now? I think that should be changed!!
::It's not dark? It looks the same as everyone else's--[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:36, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Was this right? RE: Crossover vids ==

I posted the video infor under the KM template because it was first posted on Bebo, then updated both portals with the necessary information, except changed Steve to Jonas where needed. I'm sure there's no set decision on what to do, but I felt it should be discussed somewhere. --[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]] 07:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

== Portal Images ==

I made a few portal images for both LG15 and KM- although they're maybe not very good. Hopefully at least they'll motivate someone else to do better. :)<br>
[[Image:Lgportal.jpg]]<br><br>
[[Image:Kmportal.jpg]]

== Steve on LG15? ==
should we add his pic to the LG15 page considering he's coming to the U.S?
:No more than we should have added Jonas to the KM portal because he was in the UK for a week. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== REMOVING SARAH? ==
Since Sarah has left TAAG, possibly temporarily, mabye we should remove her from the main character list and put her with the recurring characters?
Please Reply and tell me What you thnk. -Nigell
:I agree actually, but I'd give it until Monday. If she doesn't show up in Monday's video (or given an indication that she will be seen again soon) I support the move --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:35, 2 May 2008 (EST)
::I'd give it a little more time than that. Firstly, they've been mentioning Sarah almost CONSTANTLY lately, and secondly she's only been gone for a month. Give it another week, at the very least. Unlike when Tariq left KM, there was (and still is) no indication that she's left on a jet plane and plans to be gone for the better part of forever. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 16:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
::: I definitely think that we should wait longer, Sarah's been a main character for well over a year and she's been gone for only a month, if that. Besides, with all these threats and whatnot I foresee Carl trying to kill her to become an Elder and her fleeing back to TAAG. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 17:44, 2 May 2008 (CDT)

== Redesign ==

So wait, let me get this straight...my perfectly fine, cross-browser compatible design with one girl opposing the icons was violently reverted, but you went live with ''this''?
[[Image:Redesign failure season3.png|300px]]

Way to go, redesign heros. *rolleyes* Hope you're happy with your new and improved character row.
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:58, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Oh, snap! Um, probably should have made sure to check browser compatibility, but I just assumed it was okay due to the lack of objections. I really hate to do this, but I imagine we have a lot of IE users, so I will revert the redesign again until we can get this resolved. Sigh.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 20:07, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::The problem doesn't appear in 7.0. I'm going to have to revert my browser edition just to see what the fuck happened. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 21:02, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:::As far as I can tell, this is 100% fixed now. (It works for certain in Safari, Firefox, and IE 6.0. 7.0 should work, since 6.0 does.) Should be good to go, Jon. (Oh, I made the main code change in the page code, so the includes should be good as-is.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 22:01, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

::::Awesome, thanks so much, Shi. I'll go ahead and re-add it. *crosses fingers*--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:12, 11 May 2008 (CDT)

:Well, well, it's about time we got this going..looks great everyone. [[User:Nancypants|Nancypants]] 14:14, 12 May 2008 (CDT)

Why is there no picture of Emma for main characters?

Casting Couch

2008-05-08T09:20:31Z

70.158.76.179:

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(''A clip of Gina drawing Ben in fast motion plays while Gina speaks.'')

'''Gina:''' So yesterday [[Ben|a volunteer]] from the [[Edward Salinas|Salinas]] campaign [[Corn Nuts|came to our door]]. He was harmless, just going door to door passing out campaign materials. But, it really freaked everyone out. (''Gina draws Ben to look like a devil and then camera cuts to Gina sitting on the bed.'') But it gave us an idea. We really need to get close to Salinas and...well, you'll see.

(''Camera cuts to the door of the rented house. A doorbell is ringing. Someone opens it and Jonas appears, wearing a brown jacket and a Salinas for Congress campaign button.'')

'''Jonas:''' Oh, hi! I'm here to talk to you today about, uh, Edward Salinas. He's running for US Congress and, uh, well he's...ya know, he's got a lot of great policies. Yeah, he sure does. (''Looks down on notepad.'') He's got a lot of great ideas about...you know. School children. He really wants to let them lead the way, show them all the beauty they possess. I suck at this, don't I?

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. This time, Daniel is at the door.'')

'''Daniel:''' Hi! Wow, that's a lovely dress, ma'am. Speaking of lovely, have you heard of this lovely fellow? (''Points to notepad reading "Salinas=Awesome".'') He's running for US Congress and he's here to make some awesome changes for you! Well, I mean, not for you, for your community. Because why would you want to change who you are, right? (''The girls giggle in the background.'') Right.

'''Sarah:''' Next!

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Sarah is at the door, wearing a low cut blouse with a Salinas for Congress campaign button in a very [[Use of sex in lonelygirl15|"provocative"]] location.'')

'''Sarah:''' Oh, hey there. I was wondering if you'd be interested in hearing about a man named Edward Salinas. He's the man with the plan and it's a big one. Oh, it surely is! He wants to build a stronger community. The strongest, firmest, hardest community. What?

'''Gina:''' No!

'''Sarah:''' Oh, you think you can do better?

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Gina is at the door wearing a [[cap]], fake mustache, and Salinas for Congress button.'')

'''Gina:''' ''(speaking in a "Southern" Accent)'' Well howdy, sir. How are you...? (''Laughing in background.'') Shhh! I need to be serious for a minute. Here are some campaign materials (''holds up "Fight the Order" posters'') that I think you should take a look at. So, can I interest you in this total psycho [[Hot Tacos|who's trying to kill one of us?]] Hmm, can I? Yep? Hmm. Yeah?

'''Sarah:''' That would be a "no".

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Jennie is at the door wearing glasses and a Salinas for Congress button.'')

'''Jennie:''' Hey! I'm sorry to bother you. If you have a moment, I'd like to speak with you about Edward Salinas. He's running for Congress and [[Politics Gone Wild!|he really wants to improve our community]]. You know, he's from the area, so his concerns are your's. Most importantly, he's just dedicated to transforming this community block by block.

(''Camera turns to Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, and Gina, who all look stunned.'')

'''Daniel:''' Awesome!

'''Sarah:''' Oh, yeah. That was...

'''Jonas:''' Wow, Jennie! That was great! That was really good.

'''Sarah:''' You win.

'''Jennie:''' Thank you!

(''Jonas runs up to hug Jennie. Camera cuts to a side room, where Jonas and Jennie can be heard speaking.'')

'''Jonas:''' I just, I don't think you should go in there alone.

'''Jennie:''' How can you say that? [[Escape to London|You up and went to London]] without talking to any of us first. At least we're deciding this together.

'''Jonas:''' Well, then, okay. You're gonna need protection.

'''Jennie:''' I'm not taking a gun in there.

'''Jonas:''' Well, why not?

'''Jennie:''' Because if I get caught I'm gonna go to prison!

'''Jonas:''' I'm gonna be worried sick about you! Okay?

'''Jennie:''' That's sweet. I'm glad you're concerned about me, I really am. But, I'm not a helpless little girl. Okay? I can take care of myself.

'''Jonas:''' Okay.

'''Jennie:''' Okay?

'''Jonas:''' Okay. Well, can I at least buy you some mace?

'''Jennie:''' Yes, you can buy me some mace.

'''Jonas:''' Thank you.

(''Cut to Gina sitting on the bed drawing a picture of Jennie holding a Salinas sign. She holds up her hand to reveal a code [see notes].'')

'''Gina:''' So, Jennie's gonna be our volunteer at the Salinas campaign. I know what you guys are thinking--you don't think she can be trusted. So Jennie's gonna answer all your questions directly. But guys, if she's gonna do this, she does not deserve to be second guessed. Okay? So, if you'd like to, post a tiny message tonight and she'll post a reply. She wants to put those [[Breeniversisms|plantcake]] rumors to rest.

==Notes==
*The code written on Gina's hand refers to a TinyURL which leads to [http://www.snapvine.com/JennietheBear Jennie's SnapVine account].

Casting Couch

2008-05-08T09:18:29Z

70.158.76.179:

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==Transcript==
(''A clip of Gina drawing Ben in fast motion plays while Gina speaks.'')

'''Gina:''' So yesterday [[Ben|a volunteer]] from the [[Edward Salinas|Salinas]] campaign [[Corn Nuts|came to our door]]. He was harmless, just going door to door passing out campaign materials. But, it really freaked everyone out. (''Gina draws Ben to look like a devil and then camera cuts to Gina sitting on the bed.'') But it gave us an idea. We really need to get close to Salinas and...well, you'll see.

(''Camera cuts to the door of the rented house. A doorbell is ringing. Someone opens it and Jonas appears, wearing a brown jacket and a Salinas for Congress campaign button.'')

'''Jonas:''' Oh, hi! I'm here to talk to you today about, uh, Edward Salinas. He's running for US Congress and, uh, well he's...ya know, he's got a lot of great policies. Yeah, he sure does. (''Looks down on notepad.'') He's got a lot of great ideas about...you know. School children. He really wants to let them lead the way, show them all the beauty they possess. I suck at this, don't I?

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. This time, Daniel is at the door.'')

'''Daniel:''' Hi! Wow, that's a lovely dress, ma'am. Speaking of lovely, have you heard of this lovely fellow? (''Points to notepad reading "Salinas=Awesome".'') He's running for US Congress and he's here to make some awesome changes for you! Well, I mean, not for you, for your community. Because why would you want to change who you are, right? (''The girls giggle in the background.'') Right.

'''Sarah:''' Next!

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Sarah is at the door, wearing a low cut blouse with a Salinas for Congress campaign button in a very [[Use of sex in lonelygirl15|"provocative"]] location.'')

'''Sarah:''' Oh, hey there. I was wondering if you'd be interested in hearing about a man named Edward Salinas. He's the man with the plan and it's a big one. Oh, it surely is! He wants to build a stronger community. The strongest, firmest, hardest community. What?

'''Gina:''' No!

'''Sarah:''' Oh, you think you can do better?

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Gina is at the door wearing a [[cap]], fake mustache, and Salinas for Congress button.'')

'''Gina:''' *speaking in a "Southern" Accent* Well howdy, sir. How are you...? (''Laughing in background.'') Shhh! I need to be serious for a minute. Here are some campaign materials (''holds up "Fight the Order" posters'') that I think you should take a look at. So, can I interest you in this total psycho [[Hot Tacos|who's trying to kill one of us?]] Hmm, can I? Yep? Hmm. Yeah?

'''Sarah:''' That would be a "no".

(''Cut to black with the doorbell ringing again. Jennie is at the door wearing glasses and a Salinas for Congress button.'')

'''Jennie:''' Hey! I'm sorry to bother you. If you have a moment, I'd like to speak with you about Edward Salinas. He's running for Congress and [[Politics Gone Wild!|he really wants to improve our community]]. You know, he's from the area, so his concerns are your's. Most importantly, he's just dedicated to transforming this community block by block.

(''Camera turns to Daniel, Jonas, Sarah, and Gina, who all look stunned.'')

'''Daniel:''' Awesome!

'''Sarah:''' Oh, yeah. That was...

'''Jonas:''' Wow, Jennie! That was great! That was really good.

'''Sarah:''' You win.

'''Jennie:''' Thank you!

(''Jonas runs up to hug Jennie. Camera cuts to a side room, where Jonas and Jennie can be heard speaking.'')

'''Jonas:''' I just, I don't think you should go in there alone.

'''Jennie:''' How can you say that? [[Escape to London|You up and went to London]] without talking to any of us first. At least we're deciding this together.

'''Jonas:''' Well, then, okay. You're gonna need protection.

'''Jennie:''' I'm not taking a gun in there.

'''Jonas:''' Well, why not?

'''Jennie:''' Because if I get caught I'm gonna go to prison!

'''Jonas:''' I'm gonna be worried sick about you! Okay?

'''Jennie:''' That's sweet. I'm glad you're concerned about me, I really am. But, I'm not a helpless little girl. Okay? I can take care of myself.

'''Jonas:''' Okay.

'''Jennie:''' Okay?

'''Jonas:''' Okay. Well, can I at least buy you some mace?

'''Jennie:''' Yes, you can buy me some mace.

'''Jonas:''' Thank you.

(''Cut to Gina sitting on the bed drawing a picture of Jennie holding a Salinas sign. She holds up her hand to reveal a code [see notes].'')

'''Gina:''' So, Jennie's gonna be our volunteer at the Salinas campaign. I know what you guys are thinking--you don't think she can be trusted. So Jennie's gonna answer all your questions directly. But guys, if she's gonna do this, she does not deserve to be second guessed. Okay? So, if you'd like to, post a tiny message tonight and she'll post a reply. She wants to put those [[Breeniversisms|plantcake]] rumors to rest.

==Notes==
*The code written on Gina's hand refers to a TinyURL which leads to [http://www.snapvine.com/JennietheBear Jennie's SnapVine account].

Outta Here

2008-04-29T04:09:20Z

70.158.76.179: /* Notes */

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| image = KM245-SteveShocked.jpg
| caption = Our car has arrived?!
| blogger = Steve
| blogger2 = Jonas
| date = 20080425
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| length = 4:36
| description = No comment...
| location = [[The new flat]], taxi
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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' (''Sighs''.) So I thought with the time difference and all, this would take longer, but you guys, uh, awesome job with the [[What Is She Saying?|Michelle Clore video]].

'''Steve:''' So it turns out it was Turkish. This is how it translates.

(''Cut to the video of Michelle clore speaking to the camera, overlayed with English subtitles''.)

'''''Text:''''' Once in a generation, the honour of ascension is offered to a chosen few. Those selected from within the [[Hymn of One]] must posses the vision and clarity of mind required to cast off dull care and understand the world as it truly is. Those who hear the call are selected because of their standing in society and influence on the masses. Standing shoulder to shoulder with members of the original twelve is an honour and responsibility that must be earned. The final test to attain ascension demands the sacrifice of the life of one of several young Americans. The former friends of a ceremony girl named [[Bree Avery]], their mission to destabilise [[the Order]] has already cost us more than we are willing to disclose. The names of the hunted five are Jonas, [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Gina]] and [[Jennie|Jenny]]. They are located in Southern California and can be traced via the videos they insist on uploading to the internet. Provide evidence of the death of one of the five at your hand and ascension will be granted.

(''Cut back to Jonas and Steve''.)

'''Jonas:''' I guess now isn't... the time to be in Europe. So, uh, I'm gonna hit the road. I gotta go home to my friends and see what our next move's gonna to be.

'''Lauren:''' It's too quick!

(''Jonas gets up and hugs Lauren. Cut to Steve and Jonas walking to a car. Steve is pulling Jonas's suitcase to the car.'')

'''Steve:''' Hey. (''The driver opens the boot of the car and places the suitcase inside''.) Thanks.

(''The driver closes the trunk and they all load into the car. Cut to Steve and Jonas in the back seat of the car. Jonas films the scenery as they drive''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hey man, I just want to thank you for everything. (''Shakes Steve's hand''.)

'''Steve:''' Hey.

'''Jonas:''' You really didn't have to see me off to the airport, though.

'''Steve:''' No, just extra back up. Make sure you get to duty free's in one piece, then we'll go from there. Look, we'll keep an eye on [[Lord Carruthers (character)|Lord Carruthers]] this end, okay?

'''Jonas:''' So, [[Hunting The Elder|Tuesday]]... the hit. Do you have any idea?

'''Steve:''' (''Sighs''.) Someone trying to get in the Order, maybe.

'''Jonas:''' So, not [[Rupert Van Helden|Rupert]]?

'''Steve:''' No. Jonas, whoever it was, you've got them on the run, okay? (''They both turn to watch the scenery. Steve gets the attention of the driver''.) Whoah. Sorry, excuse me? You just... Uh, we can't go on the Flyover? Sorry, mate, it's just, uh, this'll take us away from, uh, Chiswick.

'''Driver:''' Sorry sir.

(''Steve looks confused as the driver puts on the turn signal. Steve's cell phone rings''.)

'''Steve:''' Oh. It's Lauren. (''Answers the phone''.) Hey. N-no, we're in it now.

'''Jonas:''' Tell her I say goodbye.

'''Steve:''' (''Whispers''.) She says our car's just arrived.

(''Jonas turns nervously to the driver, who pulls a gun on Jonas. Steve grabs the drivers hand and struggles with him. A shot is fired and the driver falls limp. Steve lets go and the driver's head falls limply onto the steering wheel, pressing the car horn. Jonas and Steve scramble and run from the car''.)

'''Jonas:''' Steve! Steve! What the-?

(''Steve stops and looks at his hands, showing that they are covered in blood''.)

'''Jonas:''' Your hands... You got blood on me; you hurt?

'''Steve:''' He's dead.

'''Jonas:''' Did he move? Did he move, Steve?

'''Steve:''' No, no move. He's dead.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, man we're in deep. We've got to move.

'''Steve:''' I just don't understand. Jonas, there could be more... there could be more!

'''Jonas:''' That's why we need to go. That's 'cause there's ''gonna'' be more. We need to get to the airport. Steve... you gotta come with me.

'''Steve:''' I know.

'''Jonas:''' No, to the US. You gotta come with me.

==Notes==
*Jennie's name is misspelled as "Jenny" in the subtitles added to Michelle Clore's video.
*Steve's uploaded video is missing the interaction between Lauren and Jonas before they leave.

Outta Here

2008-04-28T03:57:44Z

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==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' (''Sighs''.) So I thought with the time difference and all, this would take longer, but you guys, uh, awesome job with the [[What Is She Saying?|Michelle Clore video]].

'''Steve:''' So it turns out it was Turkish. This is how it translates.

(''Cut to the video of Michelle clore speaking to the camera, overlayed with English subtitles''.)

'''''Text:''''' Once in a generation, the honour of ascension is offered to a chosen few. Those selected from within the [[Hymn of One]] must posses the vision and clarity of mind required to cast off dull care and understand the world as it truly is. Those who hear the call are selected because of their standing in society and influence on the masses. Standing shoulder to shoulder with members of the original twelve is an honour and responsibility that must be earned. The final test to attain ascension demands the sacrifice of the life of one of several young Americans. The former friends of a ceremony girl named [[Bree Avery]], their mission to destabilise [[the Order]] has already cost us more than we are willing to disclose. The names of the hunted five are Jonas, [[Daniel]], [[Sarah]], [[Gina]] and [[Jennie|Jenny]]. They are located in Southern California and can be traced via the videos they insist on uploading to the internet. Provide evidence of the death of one of the five at your hand and ascension will be granted.

(''Cut back to Jonas and Steve''.)

'''Jonas:''' I guess now isn't... the time to be in Europe. So, uh, I'm gonna hit the road. I gotta go home to my friends and see what our next move's gonna to be.

'''Lauren:''' It's too quick!

(''Jonas gets up and hugs Lauren. Cut to Steve and Jonas walking to a car. Steve is pulling Jonas's suitcase to the car.'')

'''Steve:''' Hey. (''The driver opens the boot of the car and places the suitcase inside''.) Thanks.

(''The driver closes the trunk and they all load into the car. Cut to Steve and Jonas in the back seat of the car. Jonas films the scenery as they drive''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hey man, I just want to thank you for everything. (''Shakes Steve's hand''.)

'''Steve:''' Hey.

'''Jonas:''' You really didn't have to see me off to the airport, though.

'''Steve:''' No, just extra back up. Make sure you get to duty free's in one piece, then we'll go from there. Look, we'll keep an eye on [[Lord Carruthers (character)|Lord Carruthers]] this end, okay?

'''Jonas:''' So, [[Hunting The Elder|Tuesday]]... the hit. Do you have any idea?

'''Steve:''' (''Sighs''.) Someone trying to get in the Order, maybe.

'''Jonas:''' So, not [[Rupert Van Helden|Rupert]]?

'''Steve:''' No. Jonas, whoever it was, you've got them on the run, okay? (''They both turn to watch the scenery. Steve gets the attention of the driver''.) Whoah. Sorry, excuse me? You just... Uh, we can't go on the Flyover? Sorry, mate, it's just, uh, this'll take us away from, uh, Chiswick.

'''Driver:''' Sorry sir.

(''Steve looks confused as the driver puts on the turn signal. Steve's cell phone rings''.)

'''Steve:''' Oh. It's Lauren. (''Answers the phone''.) Hey. N-no, we're in it now.

'''Jonas:''' Tell her I say goodbye.

'''Steve:''' (''Whispers''.) She says our car's just arrived.

(''Jonas turns nervously to the driver, who pulls a gun on Jonas. Steve grabs the drivers hand and struggles with him. A shot is fired and the driver falls limp. Steve lets go and the driver's head falls limply onto the steering wheel, pressing the car horn. Jonas and Steve scramble and run from the car''.)

'''Jonas:''' Steve! Steve! What the-?

(''Steve stops and looks at his hands, showing that they are covered in blood''.)

'''Jonas:''' Your hands... You got blood on me; you hurt?

'''Steve:''' He's dead.

'''Jonas:''' Did he move? Did he move, Steve?

'''Steve:''' No, no move. He's dead.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, man we're in deep. We've got to move.

'''Steve:''' I just don't understand. Jonas, there could be more... there could be more!

'''Jonas:''' That's why we need to go. That's 'cause there's ''gonna'' be more. We need to get to the airport. Steve... you gotta come with me.

'''Steve:''' I know.

'''Jonas:''' No, to the US. You gotta come with me.

==Notes==
*Jennie's name is misspelled as "Jenny" in the subtitles added to Michelle Clore's video.
*Steve's uploaded video is missing the interaction between Lauren and Jonas before they leave.

LA To LDN

2008-04-22T04:05:09Z

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(''Jonas is sitting in an airplane next to the window on take-off''.)

'''Stewardess:''' For your own safety, please keep your seatbelt fastened throughout the flight.

(''Cut to Jonas watching outside as they rush down the runway. The plane leaves the ground and Jonas looks at the camera. Cut to Jonas watching the city lights as the plane angles upward. Cut to Jonas watching out of the window at the clouds during the daytime. He closes the window cover and turns the camera on himself''.)

'''Jonas:''' Hey. So I'm on my way to London. Bad food, worse weather... (''Laughs''.) You know the place. I don't really know what I'm getting myself into here. It's just- I just gotta see this thing through. I don't even know if I can really trust this Steve. I-I don't know. He seems like a good guy. Right?

(''Cut to Jonas walking around the London International Airport. An announcement can be heard in French as Jonas turns the camera on himself''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Sighs''.) Just got here. I don't really know how I'm gonna find Steve. There's a lot of people here.

(''Jonas wanders aimlessly around the airport. He turns the camera on himself and laughs''.)

'''Jonas:''' Wait a minute... I think I might see him.

(''Cut to Steve standing in the crowd, holding a carboard sign reading "YOUR NAME IS JONAS". Jonas walks over and laughs''.)

'''Steve:''' Hey!

'''Jonas:''' Steve?

'''Steve:''' Yeah! I told you.

'''Jonas:''' Hey, man. How are you doing, man?

'''Steve:''' Very well. How's it going?

'''Jonas:''' Good. Good. Good to see you.

'''Steve:''' Yeah. Good flight?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. You know, good flight, good flight. I- I, uh... (''Looks at the sign''.) I like your sign.

'''Steve:''' Thank you.

'''Jonas:''' It's nice.

'''Steve:''' I- I made it myself.

'''Jonas:''' Oh, yeah? Y- (''Laughs''.) You don't say. You made that yourself.

'''Steve:''' (''Laughs''.) Yeah.

'''Jonas:''' So listen, uh where're you parked? Where's your car? You wanna get outta here?

'''Steve:''' Uh, yeah. Nowhere. Um, I thought we'd get the train? I'm not much of a driver. Not in London, anyways.

'''Jonas:''' Oh. Yeah, right. As, uh... (''Turns the camera on himself''.) As long as you know where you're going.

'''Steve:''' Yeah! I, uh, got you a tube map, just in case you, uh, get lost.

'''Jonas:''' Wow. (''Takes the map from Steve''.) Nice.

'''Steve:''' You can keep it, 'cause I got one for me as well.

'''Jonas:''' Okay. Sure.

'''Steve:''' Excellent. Should we, uh, should we do it?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. Yeah, let's go. (''Steve leads Jonas through the airport''.) London, huh?

'''Steve:''' No, I know.

(''Jonas turns the camera on himself and back at Steve as he laughs. Cut to Jonas following Steve up a flight of escalators. Jonas smiles at the camera as he nears the top''.)

'''Jonas:''' Wow.

(''Cut to Steve leading Jonas through Waterloo Station''.)

'''Steve:''' So I thought we could, uh, go for a walk down by the river. There's great views there.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, that'd be great, man. (''Cut to Jonas spotting a Burger King in the station''.) Oh, you've got Burger King. Nice.

(''Cut to the two leaving the station and crossing the street. Cut to a bus stopping nearby. Cut to Steve pointing to The London Eye and Big Ben. He leads the way under an overpass to Jubilee Gardens. Jonas takes several shots of the scenery as he follows Steve''.)

(''Cut to a street musician playing on pots. Steve dances to the music and Jonas laughs at the camera. Jonas drops a tip into the musician's bucket and he thanks him. Cut to a couple of skateboarders skating under a bridge. Jonas turns the camera on himself''.)

'''Jonas:''' Man, I should have brought my board. (''Jonas watches as the skaters do a few stunts''.) Just between you and me, I think the skating's a little better in the US. (''Cut to Jonas following behind Steve''.) Steve! Do you skate?

'''Steve:''' Yeah, I used to roller skate when I was a kid.

'''Jonas:''' Oh. Yeah.

'''Steve:''' Actually, I'm quite a good ice skater. Quite nimble on my feet.

'''Jonas:''' (''Turns the camera on himself''.) Nimble? (''Cut to Jonas following Steve near the Thames''.) Wow. I-I can't get over this. It's so beautiful. (''Pans to The London Eye''.) Look at that. (''Cut to Big Ben''.) I gotta say, though, Big Ben looks a lot bigger on TV. Listen, man, I'm getting kind of hungry. Think that maybe we could grab some food?

'''Steve:''' Yeah, sure, man, that's cool.

'''Jonas:''' Let's go.

(''Jonas zooms in on Big Ben as they walk along. Cut to Jonas placing the camera on a table as he sits down''.)

'''Jonas:''' Look at this. It's so beautiful here. I wish you guys at home could be here. Steve seems pretty nice; he offered to buy me a sandwich, so that's pretty-

'''Steve:''' Here you go. Here you go.

(''Steve walks over and hands Jonas a sandwich''.)

'''Jonas:''' Oh, thank you. Thank you. (''Steve sits down next to Jonas''.) Alright, cheers.

'''Steve:''' Cheers.

(''Both Steve and Jonas take a bite of their meals''.)

'''Jonas:''' Mmm, mmm. That's good!

'''Steve:''' Yep.

'''Jonas:''' What'd you get?

'''Steve:''' Um, tomato and mozzarella salad.

'''Jonas:''' (''Mocking Steve's accent''.) "Tomato"?

'''Steve:''' Yeah, that's right, tomato.

'''Jonas:''' Didn't you mean, uh, "tomato"?

'''Steve:''' No, I meant "tomato". Don't forget who invented the language. (''Takes another bite of his salad''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs''.) Yeah, but you also invented soccer and... you're not too good at that anymore.

'''Steve:''' Whoah, whoah; hang on. We did ''not'' invent soccer.

'''Jonas:''' (''Looks confused''.) No...

'''Steve:''' We invented football. (''Takes another bite of his salad''.)

'''Jonas:''' You mean the little girl's game where you guys kick around a little white ball?

'''Steve:''' Yeah.

'''Jonas:''' That, my friend, is not football. (''Takes a bite of his sandwich''.)

'''Steve:''' (''Laughs''.) Okay. Our football is a game where you actually go to kick a ball? With your feet? Your football... you pretty much use your hands all the time. I mean, what's that about? (''Jonas laughs''.) Was handball already used for something else?

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs''.) Okay. Okay, there you go. See, you just proved you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. (''Laughs with Steve''.) Alright, alright. Forget it. What about "banana"? How do you, uh... (''Steve laughs''.) No, no, no, don't even- don't even. Don't even go there.

'''Steve:''' Spotted dick?

'''Jonas:''' (''Looks confused''.) Uh... what?

'''Steve:''' (''Laughs''.) Spotted dick. It's our, um, our dessert. (''Holds a plate of spotted dick in front of the camera''.)

'''Jonas:''' (''Laughs''.) Spotted-! Spotted dick.

'''Steve:''' Spotted dick.

'''Jonas:''' No thank you. I, uh, didn't come to England for- for any dick. (''Steve laughs''.) But, uh...

'''Steve:''' We, uh... While we're here, though, while we're messing around outside, are we actually gonna get down to business?

'''Jonas:''' Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, that's what I came here for.

'''Steve:''' Okay.

'''Jonas:''' So let's do it.

'''Steve:''' Let's rock the casbah, man.

(''Jonas knuckle bumps Steve''.)

==Notes==
*Jonas asking Steve to "Say Banana" may have been inspired by conversations in the old LG15 voice chat.
*This is the first video to be included within the canon of both series.
*This is the first time a main [[KateModern]] character has physically appeared in a [[lonelygirl15]] video and vice versa.
*This video was posted by Jonas on the lonelygirl15 [[YouTube]] account, as well as by Steve on [[Bebo]].
**Jonas's video bears the description "I made it to London and hooked up with Steve. Next stop: Lord Carruthers"
*Steve's sign is a reference to Jonas's first vlog ''[[My Name Is Jonas]]'', which in itself is a reference to the {{wikipedia|Weezer}} song "My Name is Jonas."

Special Relationship?

2008-04-18T04:01:14Z

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(''A clapperboard is seen. Lauren slaps it shut and take it out of the frame, revealing a Barbie doll in front of a sunny landscape''.)

'''Voiceover:''' Until I few weeks ago, I had no idea about any of this "[[the Order|Order]]", "[[trait positive]]", "[[Hymn of One]]" stuff.

(''The scene fades yellow into a close-up of the Barbie waving at the camera. The scene fades again to show army soldiers in front of the Barbie''.)

'''Voiceover:''' And then, all of a sudden I was in the middle of a war.

(''And explosion cuts to the Barbie surrounded by figurines''.)

'''Voiceover:''' And no one really knew who was on who's side.

(''Close ups of the many figurines are shown. One representing Charlie looks around. Another holds a sign reading "[[Watcher]]", which turns into a gun''.)

'''Voiceover:''' But after a while, it became pretty obvious.

(''A figurine of Venom attacks the Watcher. A figurine wearing a clay sweater with a picture of [[Terrence]]'s head is shown holding a sign reading "Terry". Screams are heard as blood splashes across the screen. Lauren holds a signs in front of the figurine reading "formally known as..." and "Terrence". The Barbie is seen thrashing around under a red cloth and then a close-up of her face is shown''.)

'''Voiceover:''' Luckily, I had a bit of help.

(''Cut to a figurine of the Green Lantern, holding a sign reading "[[Gavin|Gav]]". The Charlie figurine appears in front of the camera. Cut to the Terrence figurine.''.)

'''Voiceover:''' And eventually the battle was won.

(''The figurine is hit in the face with a spider web and falls over. The Barbie punches the Terrence figurine with clay boxing gloves''.)

'''Voiceover:''' So now it's time to go on the offensive. (''The Barbie's face covers the camera. Cut to a union soldier holding a waving American flag''.) With our reinforcements.

(''Cut to Lauren sitting at the coffee table with the Barbie in front of her''.)

'''Lauren:''' Right. Well if that weren't clear enough, what I'm trying to say is now we've teamed up with [[TAAG|the Americans]], I'm really sure we can destroy the Order. [[Steve]]'s out now doing some more research into that [[Lord Carruthers (character)|Lord Carruthers]] guy, so hopefully he'll be able to track him down.

And, [[Charlie]], if you're watching this, please don't overreact. I know what I'm doing. (''Looks at the Barbie doll and turns off the camera''.)

==Notes==
*[[Lee]] revealed shortly after the video was released that the toys Lauren uses are his. It is presumed that the Barbie is his, as well.

*The title, Special Relationship, refers to a line from a Winston Churchill speech that describes the strong political, cultural, and diplomatic relationship between the United States and Great Britain, which has influenced British foreign policy since World War II.

*[[Lee]] wrote a blog on the same day entitled "Need Work Will Travel!":
''"Has anyone got any jobs going for an exciting young television visionary? I'm getting bored of sitting in the house clearing up after the girls and being nagged to make happy food. Plus Lauren keeps messing about with my toys. Please give me a job, I'll do anything!"''

Talk:Lord Carruthers (video)

2008-04-17T08:13:46Z

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is the crowley doll real or is it fiction? - [[user:platypusrex256|platy]]
:I can't find anything about it being at that particular museum online, but it is known that there is a green marionette around from Crowley's childhood... My guess? Both are fictitious. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 13:29, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

THE MUSEUM: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1118118782&channel=980601853 check that out.

Mmm Beer!

2008-04-17T08:11:21Z

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(''Daniel and Jonas clink [[beer]] bottles'')

'''Jonas:''' Okay. We have some good news. (''Daniel laughs'') No! That's--Mm, that's not the word. (''giggles'') We have some ''incredible'' news.

'''Daniel:''' That's right. We do! And we're celebrating! GARG!

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. Some guy, called [[Steve]], from [[London]], (''sniff'') has seen the [[Final Appeal#Notes|coat of arms]]. YEARG!

(''Daniel and Jonas laugh and clink bottles once more'')

'''Daniel:''' Ah. And don't worry: I'm only going to have the one for ol' time's sake. (''clinks bottle with camera'') Cool?

'''Jonas:''' (''laughing'') Not me. (''to someone off camera'') More beer! Hey! (''snapping fingers'') Hey!

'''Daniel:''' Aw. You missed the man.

'''Jonas:''' Aw. Anyway, doesn't matter. (''inhales deeply'') So, this Steve guy. He saw an older man (wearing it?) at the [[Hymn of One]] [[Hymn of One recruitment centers#The Hymn of One London Centre|headquarters]] in...London.

'''Daniel:''' Mmhmm.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. And not only that: he saw the same guy coming out of the, uh, Museum of Childhood. Come on.

'''Daniel:''' So creepy. And English. (''Jonas laughs'') Right? It is.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. Tell me about it. And, he had a conversation with him afterwards about...antique puppets.

'''Daniel:''' So, Steve posted a video on his [http://www.bebo.com/SteveBelieves Bebo] page. Turns out he went ''back'' to the museum. I dunno. I just feel like he ought to know about this stuff. I mean, this guy ''was'' in the Hymn of One, wasn't he?

'''Jonas:''' (''sarcastically'') Yeah, before he had a life. (''chuckles'') But, no. He seems like a nice guy. (''pauses'') For a Brit. (''Jonas and Daniel laugh'') Cheers!

'''Daniel:''' Cheers! Ah. He couldn't film inside, but a [[Lord Carruthers]] had signed in to see a marionette doll shaped like a skeleton. Turns out, it belongs to [[Aleister Crowley]]. So, one of us is going to London.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''Together:''' I'll go.

'''Jonas:''' What?

'''Daniel:''' What?

'''Jonas:''' Well, why you?

'''Daniel:''' ''Why me?'' [[Bree]] was my best friend. Why you?

'''Jonas:''' (''pause'') 'Cause we were totally into each other, man.

'''Daniel:''' (''scoffs'') So what, man? Who cares if you two [[HOLY SH%T!!!|hooked up]]?

'''Jonas:''' Look--What makes you think you can go to London alone?

'''Daniel:''' Well, what's that suppose to mean?

'''Jonas:''' Look, I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry--That came out wrong. You know, forget about--You know, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out! (''smiling'') Let's just have some fun for a few days, okay?

'''Daniel:''' All right. I'll drink to that. All right!

(''scene changes to a beer bottle that is picked up by Daniel'')

'''Jonas:''' Whoa-ho-ho! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! (''laughs'')

'''Jonas:''' (''in screen'') YEARG!

'''Jonas:''' (''laughs'') Nice!

==Notes==
*This video confirms that there will be a KateModern and LonelyGirl15 crossover.
*This was Daniel's first beer since [[Running For Life]], over one year ago.
*Daniel and Jonas do not tell us what [[Gina]], [[Sarah]], or [[Jennie]] will be doing while the boys are out of the country.
*Daniel mispronounces Aleister Crowley's name. His last name rhymes with "holy."

Lord Carruthers (video)

2008-04-17T03:19:17Z

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(''Lauren and Steve are walking down the street''.)

'''Steve:''' Lauren? Here, just take this from me.

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'''Steve:''' Okay. Me and Lauren are on our way to The New Museum of Childhood to see if we can find out about that guy, uh, who was on [[Jonas]]'s video. Apparently there's a doll in there that used to belong to [[Aleister Crowley]]. He's this weird occultist guy, uh, that died sixty years ago. He's a very important figure in the [[Hymn of One]]; a lot of the Hymn's teachings are based on his work.

'''Lauren:''' Yeah? So what?

'''Steve:''' So I think that the guy I saw with the crest coming out the museum was looking at that doll.

'''Lauren:''' Oh, good thinking! You're not as stupid as you look, are you, Steve?

'''Steve:''' Thank you... Right. I'm gonna go in, um, and see if we can film in there. Just wait here a sec?

'''Lauren:''' Alright.

(''Lauren stands by the front gate as Steve runs into the museum. Cut to Lauren filming traffic on the nearby street. She films a Nisa-Today's truck. And finds a person on a balcony across the street. Cut to Steve returning from the museum''.)

'''Lauren:''' Well?

'''Steve:''' Oh, no. No, we can't film in there, but it doesn't matter. That was ''very'' productive.

'''Lauren:''' Yeah?

'''Steve:''' Yeah. It turns out that the only person who signed in to look at Aleister Crowley's doll in the last year was a guy named Lord Carruthers.

'''Lauren:''' Oh! You said he was a lord or something, didn't you?

'''Steve:''' I told you I'd seen him before! Come on, let's go see what else we can find out now we know the guy's name! (''Leads the way down the street''.)

'''Lauren:''' Alright, let's go. (''Follows Steve''.)

==Notes==
Lauren's dialogue may have been edited into this video.

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2008-04-16T06:00:53Z

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Bang Out of Order

2008-04-16T05:59:40Z

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==Transcript==
'''Lauren:''' So... I've been doing a bit of research into [[the Order]]. I know what every one thinks: that I should just leave it and stop inviting trouble. But there's no way I can just forget about this. Not after everything they've done to me. There's no way.

Anyway, I've been speaking to [[Steve]] about it. I think he's the only one who really knows how I feel. He told me about this [[TAAG|group in LA]]; apparently they've been fighting the Order for a few years. So I'm gonna try and get in touch with them, see what I can find out. Maybe even work together.

(''Sighs''.) I don't know, maybe I'm just clutching at straws. I've gotta do something, though. Steve says he was thinking of going out to LA to try and meet 'em. I wish I could go with, but there are a few things keeping me here. (''Laughs''.) Like the fact I've got about four quid in me bank account, and the drugs which I need to keep me alive which I need to get every week.

(''Charlie enters the café and walks toward Lauren''.)

'''Charlie:''' Hey.

'''Lauren:''' You know, little things like that. (''Looks back to see Charlie approaching''.) Hey, Charlie.

'''Charlie:''' Forgot my keys. What are you up to?

'''Lauren:''' Oh, nothing much.

(''Charlie leans in to look at the computer''.)

'''Charlie:''' What the hell is this? Didn't I tell you just leave all the stuff about fighting the Order?

'''Lauren:''' Yeah, you did, but I just-

'''Charlie:''' Nothing good's gonna come from this. It's over, alright? Trust me, I should know.

'''Lauren:''' (''Laughs''.) Yeah. Should know. (''Charlie looks confusedly at the screen''.) You should know that it's not as easy as that! I need to know what happened to me sister.

'''Charlie:''' You're gonna get yourself killed.

'''Lauren:''' Ugh! Just leave me alone, alright?

(''Lauren gets up and leaves. Charlie puts her purse on the floor and sits in the chair in front of the computer. She watches Lauren leave and sighs''.)

'''Charlie:''' She's gonna get herself into more trouble than she can fathom. You know I'm right.

==Notes==
*This is the second time someone from the KateModern series has talked about the TAAG, the first being when Charlie contacted [[Spencer]] about the serum in [[Trait Negative]].

*The day after this vlog was posted by Lauren, on April 15th, she posted a note on her blog entitled "I can't just let it go.":
''"I wish Charlie would just realise that this is something I have to do. What does she expect after what they did to my sister? Anyway, can you lot do me a favour? Can you message me with anything you know about Jonas and those other Americans who are fighting the order? It'd mean a lot to me. Thanks.x"''

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As I mentioned earlier this week, if you have a problem with a video caption, suggest your own and mention your reasoning in the summary and/or the video's talk page. it's just unproductive to continually wipe the captions blank. Please don't do this sort of thing again. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 00:05, 7 March 2008 (CST)

I don't feel that there SHOULD be captions. They're mostly dumb.

:Well, you ''are'' entitled to your opinion, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, it is the general consensus that captions are prefered. In fact, if you've visited the site for some time, you may be aware that many LGPedians often discuss and debate ''ad naseum'' on what is the best caption for its respective video (the best example I currently remember would on the talk page of [[Entertaining Myself]]). In my own personal opionion, they add a wonderful element to their respective video, because they usually contain some humor, often citing inside jokes that are infamous with LG15 fans. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 05:32, 12 March 2008 (CDT)

each to their own, then. and i don't go to the forums often. and i definitely have never visited a "talk page". i don't believe i'll ever enjoy the captions...

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Now, had you registered and had your own userpage, then you may have a ''little'' more say about what content you may or may not like on it. However, talk pages are quite different, whether they are registered or not, as they show previous discussions on past issues that provide precedented decisions and such (makes no sense discussing something that's already been discussed) But repetitive page blanking is considered '''vandalism''', and you ''need to stop.'' However, please appreciate the fact that you've made some good contributions on the LGPedia (despite past squabbles), and have even been willing to discuss your opinion (see that old discussion above? That does count for something) on the squabbles you've had - as a result, I see no reason to ban you (even temporarily) yet :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 04:40, 14 April 2008 (CDT)

again, it's your point of view. and frankly, i just like having things blanked out... there needs to be a better way of documenting "wrongs" by people... because I like to have the page blank so I can figure out what's going on. And you could of actually said something instead of just copying and pasting it back without saying "please don't erase this again". i, personally, would rather have this completely blank so i don't have to scroll down or search for something new. there needs to be a better system. but of course, that is only my opinion. and just another comment... i don't see how it can possibly be considered vandalism to clear YOUR OWN discussion page. no one else should really be using it. i mean, seriously... what kind of LG15/KM stuff would people have to comment about me? I'm not in the series. there just needs to be a better system. maybe developers can figure that out rather than having this be so primal. and yes, i have made good contributions. :) i greatly appreciate the fact that i have made some. haha sorry, that was a sarcastic remark to a statement that was oddly written. y'all should be appreciative...why ought i need to appreciate myself for making good contributions? i'm just helping where i can when i have time...which i don't have a lot of.

:Sorry if my original comment sounded confusing, I was just trying to point out that because of your other contributions, you've shown that you are indeed trying to help around here (which is great, we can always use help around here).

:That said, until a "better system" is around, this is the current order of things. Honestly, we have no way of knowing you are the same person that used this IP address a month ago. Technically, ''anyone'' could be using this address. So, if you don't mind, I think I'll plug registering a username on the LGPedia . . . you get to have a ''little'' more say on your userpage and talk page (registered users who don't like lenghthy talk pages tend to archive old discussions, for example) and the community gets to know a fellow contributor better (at the very least, something other than 70.158.76.179) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:17, 15 April 2008 (CDT)

it's all good. and this ip is always the same person. no other uses it. and i'd rather not register...although i like to contribute when i can, i don't have time nor really desire to have the time to get to know people on here. i'm kinda over the whole internet thing. but i appreciate the plug, nonetheless. i just edit where i can... or add where i can...

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The Day of the Eternal Song

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==Transcript==
(''Julia is sitting on a toilet in the women's washroom''.)

'''Julia:''' Well... Everyone's secret's out. What a weekend. I think it's gonna take everyone a long time to get back to normal. I haven't been able to get hold of [[Charlie]] yet, so I hope she's okay. I imagine she's pretty freaked out by the whole thing. So Charlie, if you're watching, can you give me a bell? We need to talk.

I can tell you about Rupert now. I was a bit worried about everyone finding out, but... I think it's the best thing that could have happened. (''Grins''.) And I'm really happy. Rupert explained all the stuff with [[Kate]] and [[Terrence]] and the [[Watcher]] was nothing to do with the [[Hymn of One]]. And, I mean, that's obvious, isn't it?

Anyway, today is a really big day. Huge, in fact. Today is the Hymn of One's Day for Eternal Song. And I am here to help out, 'cause Rupert asked me, and he wants me to meet a few of his friends. Little bit nervous, if I'm honest. But, hey, if they're anything like Rupert, then I have nothing to worry about. Okay, let's go!

(''Julia exits the cubicle and walks over to the sinks. She sets the camera down on the counter and checks herself out in the mirror. Cut to Julia walking down the main hall in the Hymn of One Centre. Cut to Julia ascending the staircase to the second story''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' Hi. You must be Julia. (''Shakes Julia's hand''.)

'''Julia:''' Hi, nice to meet you.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Nice to meet you.

(''Julia continues up the stairs. She enters the main room, where Rupert and several more Hymn of One members are preparing for the day. Julia walks toward Rupert and is greeted by two girls''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' (''Extends her hand''.) Hi. Very nice to meet you.

'''Julia:''' Um, nice to meet you. Yeah.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Very nice to meet you. (''Shakes Julia's hand''.)

'''Julia:''' Oh, you, too. Take care.

'''Rupert:''' --absolutely imperative that we get to these people before it's too late. There's a lot of people-

'''Julia:''' Um, hi; sorry. Hi.

'''Rupert:''' (''Smiles at Julia''.) Hey. This is her.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Okay.

'''Rupert:''' Uh... Um, do we- Do we really need the camera in here today?

'''Julia:''' Well, honey, I-I wanted to document the event to show everyone how normal you are.

'''Rupert:''' (''Smiles''.) Didn't I tell you she was great? Look, I need my suit in the next hour; so can you get on that straight away? (''The Hymn of One member nods''.) Yep? (''Slaps him on the back''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' Cool.

'''Rupert:''' Thank you. (''Turns to Julia''.)

'''Julia:''' Oh, honey, I missed you. (''Julia and Rupert hug''.)

'''Rupert:''' You, too. (''Kisses Julia''.) Nice to see you.

'''Julia:''' Good luck today.

'''Rupert:''' Okay. (''Kisses Julia''.)

(''Cut to Rupert walking behind a table covered with glasses filled with different juices, practicing his lecture. The two girls are helping to decorate, and speak Mandarin to each other. The other Hymn of One member in the room adjusts the chairs to be perfectly aligned. Cut to the girls decorating and then back to Rupert practicing his lecture''.)

'''Julia:''' Honey, why don't you say a little something?

'''Rupert:''' Yeah. Yeah, why not? Um... Okay, guys, everyone, can you gather round, please? Want to have a quick word. (''The Hymn of One members assemble in front of Rupert''.) Hey. Um, okay. Well, first, thank you all for coming down and helping out on today. It is the most joyous day in the Hymn of One calendar, so good job for coming down. Um, but if you guys are just here to see [[Precious Blood: 12PM|me in my silk boxers]] again, then you're gonna be very mistaken. (''One of the girls laughs''.) Okay? I'm wearing briefs today.

Um... Seriously, though. Uh, I really do appreciate all of you, um, giving me your support, but I feel like there's a few things that I need to explain to the Hymn of One members. Um, I realize that many of you will have heard me preaching about the virtues of abstinence, and I realize that there are probably those amongst you who think that my behaviour was... dispicable. Hypocritical, at best. Um... And given what you know, you'd be perfectly within your rights to think that. However, there is something else that I did want to share with you guys today.

'''Steve:''' Yeah, I'll bet there is.

(''Everyone turns to find Steve entering the room''.)

'''Rupert:''' Steve. Well, guys, this really is a great day! I mean, a-a lost sheep has returned to the flock in time for the celebration.

'''Steve:''' No, I don't think so, Rupert. I'm not one of your sheep.

'''Rupert:''' Oh, Steve, I didn't mean it-

'''Steve:''' No. I'm not one of your flock any more! Blindly following you around, believing everything you say.

'''Rupert:''' (''Laughs''.) Hang on a minute...

'''Steve:''' You're all fools. I can't believe it's taken me so long to realize, but I've finally seen the light now. Don't you worry about that.

'''Rupert:''' Now, hang on. This is completely out of order.

'''Steve:''' Out of order? I'll tell you what's out of order! (''A Hymn of One member moves to stop Steve, but Rupert blocks him''.) Feeding people lies! Preying on their vulnerabilities! And stopping people living their lives!

'''Rupert:''' Now, hang on, that is enough! Alright? If you don't want to be here and be part of our joy, then that is one thing, but-

'''Steve:''' Oh, shut up! You smug, pious hypocrite! Did you know that while your esteemed speaker was preaching abstinence, he was having it off with a TV presenter? (''Points at Julia''.)

'''Julia:''' Now, hold on!

'''Rupert:''' Come on, if you will just hear me out-

'''Steve:''' No, look- I have heard enough. I came here today to tell you to stick your Hymn of One and your stupid special day up your arse.

'''Rupert:''' Oh, please, this is a place of worship!

(''Steve laughs and backs toward the door''.)

'''Rupert:''' Steve!

'''Steve:''' Piss off. (''Exits''.)

(''Julia pans back to Rupert looking stunned''.)

'''Rupert:''' Um... Well! I mean, i-if there's ever a warning for people not doing psychotropic drugs before breakfast, then... then that's it. (''The Hymn of One members look at Rupert accusingly''.) Right. Um... Where was I?

==Notes==
*With this video comes a new subtitle for the series, "In the Name of KateModern" now that we already know who committed the crime.

*This video marks one of the rare times that a Hymn of One uses a non-music metaphor. Rupert calling Steve ''"a lost sheep"'' that ''"has returned to the flock"'' is a visual usually associated with Christian teachings.

*In a newer blog (May 11th) from Steve, via his bebo page, on April 11th, he writes the following blog entitled "[http://www.bebo.com/BlogView.jsp?MemberId=4559170159&BlogId=6339609925 Changes]":

:''"This is to let everyone know that I am officially done with the Hymn of One. The whole organisation is a scam designed to control people's mind's and milk them out of their cash. Rupert Van Helden is pious hypocrite and deserves to exposed for the charlatan that he is. I'm gonna make it my mission to do so. To anyone who still believes in the Hymn of Nonsense: Open your eyes. Get out whilst you still have some brain left."''

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The Day of the Eternal Song

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==Transcript==
(''Julia is sitting on a toilet in the women's washroom''.)

'''Julia:''' Well... Everyone's secret's out. What a weekend. I think it's gonna take everyone a long time to get back to normal. I haven't been able to get hold of [[Charlie]] yet, so I hope she's okay. I imagine she's pretty freaked out by the whole thing. So Charlie, if you're watching, can you give me a bell? We need to talk.

I can tell you about Rupert now. I was a bit worried about everyone finding out, but... I think it's the best thing that could have happened. (''Grins''.) And I'm really happy. Rupert explained all the stuff with [[Kate]] and [[Terrence]] and the [[Watcher]] was nothing to do with the [[Hymn of One]]. And, I mean, that's obvious, isn't it?

Anyway, today is a really big day. Huge, in fact. Today is the Hymn of One's Day for Eternal Song. And I am here to help out, 'cause Rupert asked me, and he wants me to meet a few of his friends. Little bit nervous, if I'm honest. But, hey, if they're anything like Rupert, then I have nothing to worry about. Okay, let's go!

(''Julia exits the cubicle and walks over to the sinks. She sets the camera down on the counter and checks herself out in the mirror. Cut to Julia walking down the main hall in the Hymn of One Centre. Cut to Julia ascending the staircase to the second story''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' Hi. You must be Julia. (''Shakes Julia's hand''.)

'''Julia:''' Hi, nice to meet you.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Nice to meet you.

(''Julia continues up the stairs. She enters the main room, where Rupert and several more Hymn of One members are preparing for the day. Julia walks toward Rupert and is greeted by two girls''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' (''Extends her hand''.) Hi. Very nice to meet you.

'''Julia:''' Um, nice to meet you. Yeah.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Very nice to meet you. (''Shakes Julia's hand''.)

'''Julia:''' Oh, you, too. Take care.

'''Rupert:''' --absolutely imperative that we get to these people before it's too late. There's a lot of people-

'''Julia:''' Um, hi; sorry. Hi.

'''Rupert:''' (''Smiles at Julia''.) Hey. This is her.

'''Hymn of One member:''' Okay.

'''Rupert:''' Uh... Um, do we- Do we really need the camera in here today?

'''Julia:''' Well, honey, I-I wanted to document the event to show everyone how normal you are.

'''Rupert:''' (''Smiles''.) Didn't I tell you she was great? Look, I need my suit in the next hour; so can you get on that straight away? (''The Hymn of One member nods''.) Yep? (''Slaps him on the back''.)

'''Hymn of One member:''' Cool.

'''Rupert:''' Thank you. (''Turns to Julia''.)

'''Julia:''' Oh, honey, I missed you. (''Julia and Rupert hug''.)

'''Rupert:''' You, too. (''Kisses Julia''.) Nice to see you.

'''Julia:''' Good luck today.

'''Rupert:''' Okay. (''Kisses Julia''.)

(''Cut to Rupert walking behind a table covered with glasses filled with different juices, practicing his lecture. The two girls are helping to decorate, and speak Mandarin to each other. The other Hymn of One member in the room adjusts the chairs to be perfectly aligned. Cut to the girls decorating and then back to Rupert practicing his lecture''.)

'''Julia:''' Honey, why don't you say a little something?

'''Rupert:''' Yeah. Yeah, why not? Um... Okay, guys, everyone, can you gather round, please? Want to have a quick word. (''The Hymn of One members assemble in front of Rupert''.) Hey. Um, okay. Well, first, thank you all for coming down and helping out on today. It is the most joyous day in the Hymn of One calendar, so good job for coming down. Um, but if you guys are just here to see [[Precious Blood: 12PM|me in my silk boxers]] again, then you're gonna be very mistaken. (''One of the girls laughs''.) Okay? I'm wearing briefs today.

Um... Seriously, though. Uh, I really do appreciate all of you, um, giving me your support, but I feel like there's a few things that I need to explain to the Hymn of One members. Um, I realize that many of you will have heard me preaching about the virtues of abstinence, and I realize that there are probably those amongst you who think that my behaviour was... dispicable. Hypocritical, at best. Um... And given what you know, you'd be perfectly within your rights to think that. However, there is something else that I did want to share with you guys today.

'''Steve:''' Yeah, I'll bet there is.

(''Everyone turns to find Steve entering the room''.)

'''Rupert:''' Steve. Well, guys, this really is a great day! I mean, a-a lost sheep has returned to the flock in time for the celebration.

'''Steve:''' No, I don't think so, Rupert. I'm not one of your sheep.

'''Rupert:''' Oh, Steve, I didn't mean it-

'''Steve:''' No. I'm not one of your flock any more! Blindly following you around, believing everything you say.

'''Rupert:''' (''Laughs''.) Hang on a minute...

'''Steve:''' You're all fools. I can't believe it's taken me so long to realize, but I've finally seen the light now. Don't you worry about that.

'''Rupert:''' Now, hang on. This is completely out of order.

'''Steve:''' Out of order? I'll tell you what's out of order! (''A Hymn of One member moves to stop Steve, but Rupert blocks him''.) Feeding people lies! Preying on their vulnerabilities! And stopping people living their lives!

'''Rupert:''' Now, hang on, that is enough! Alright? If you don't want to be here and be part of our joy, then that is one thing, but-

'''Steve:''' Oh, shut up! You smug, pious hypocrite! Did you know that while your esteemed speaker was preaching abstinence, he was having it off with a TV presenter? (''Points at Julia''.)

'''Julia:''' Now, hold on!

'''Rupert:''' Come on, if you will just hear me out-

'''Steve:''' No, look- I have heard enough. I came here today to tell you to stick your Hymn of One and your stupid special day up your arse.

'''Rupert:''' Oh, please, this is a place of worship!

(''Steve laughs and backs toward the door''.)

'''Rupert:''' Steve!

'''Steve:''' Piss off. (''Exits''.)

(''Julia pans back to Rupert looking stunned''.)

'''Rupert:''' Um... Well! I mean, i-if there's ever a warning for people not doing psychotropic drugs before breakfast, then... then that's it. (''The Hymn of One members look at Rupert accusingly''.) Right. Um... Where was I?

==Notes==
*With this video comes a new subtitle for the series, "In the Name of KateModern" now that we already know who committed the crime.

*This video marks one of the rare times that a Hymn of One uses a non-music metaphor. Rupert calling Steve ''"a lost sheep"'' that ''"has returned to the flock"'' is a visual usually associated with Christian teachings.

*In a newer blog from Steve, via his bebo page, on May 11th, he writes the following blog entitled "Changes":

''"This is to let everyone know that I am officially done with the Hymn of One. The whole organisation is a scam designed to control people's mind's and milk them out of their cash. Rupert Van Helden is pious hypocrite and deserves to exposed for the charlatan that he is. I'm gonna make it my mission to do so. To anyone who still believes in the Hymn of Nonsense: Open your eyes. Get out whilst you still have some brain left."''

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==Transcript==
'''Julia:''' Hey [[Charlie]]. I'm really pleased you're back online, and cheers for [[Infested|the video]]; I was really worried. I'm just so relieved you're back and that you seem alright. And, um, looks like you're in good hands with your new housemates. (''Laughs and looks down''.)

Honey...I know you're still really annoyed at me about the past few weeks. And I probably would be as well. But I still would like to meet up some time, so I'll leave it in your hands. You know where I am. And I've got a lot to fill you in on.

I've had a lot of comments about [[The Day of the Eternal Song|Monday's video]]. Thank you, but everything's fine. I've had a great week. I had a ''really'' great week with Rupert. The Day of the Eternal Song was amazing, even though I didn't end up filming it. Rupert's got a lot of serious meetings with the [[Elder]]s of the [[Hymn of One]] and I told him it's fine. You know, I know he's gonna look after his job. Me, I've got loads of time on my hands at the minute. You know, looking for work and such.

And also, I've been given a little present. (''Grins and pulls a small bag on screen''.) Now, I shouldn't really have a look, but... (''Shrugs and pulls a wrapped present out of the bag''.) ...it's only a little peek, isn't it?
(''Julia grins and pulls the wrapping paper off''.)

Awww, honey! It's a book! (''Inspects the cover''.) You've written a new book. You didn't tell me you've written a new book. (''Shows the cover to the camera''.) "I Have Found The One". Maybe I could read just a little bit of it. You know, just to plug it.

(''Julia opens the book and giggles''.)

Honey! I knew you had a soft side. (''Turns the book to show a heart-shaped indentation in the book''.) What's-? (''Pulls back a piece of cloth in the heart-shape and gasps. She pulls out a ring and stares at it''.) Oh my god!

(''Julia gets up, pacing the room while staring at the ring. She sits back down, shocked, and Rupert appears at the door''.)

'''Rupert:''' What do you think? I'm not sure about the middle, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a happy ending.

'''Julia:''' Is this what I think it is?

'''Rupert:''' Absolutely. (''Walks over to Julia and kneels, taking the ring''.) I want you to join me in an eternal unity bond. (''Slides the ring onto Julia's finger''.) And I want the whole world to see it.

'''Julia:''' You mean like a marriage?

'''Rupert:''' It's a lot like a marriage, yeah. I wanna be with you for all eternity.

(''Julia pulls her hand away, shaking her head''.)

'''Julia:''' Honey, this is all really sudden.

'''Rupert:''' No, no, no. For me, honestly, Julia, in so many ways, this really isn't sudden at all. You... are the one.

(''Julia sighs and turns off the camera''.)

==Notes==
On Julia's blog [http://www.bebo.com/PrincessJools], on May 11th, she wrote the following blog entitled "My Big Day!":

''"You are all invited to my big day! We will be holding a ceremony to celebrate the joining of myself and Rupert in an Eternal Unity Bond and I'd love you to be there. So make sure you keep your diaries free on the 17th May from 2-4pm. I'll give you more details when we've got them!"''

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2008-03-19T06:29:51Z

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'''Sarah:''' Ever since Carl showed up at the [[Mexican Mating Machine|BBQ]], I haven't been able to get him out of my mind. I know. I sound ''completely'' nuts. I think he's sexy. So, there. And I like hanging out with him. You know, he doesn't have to be cool like some of the ''other'' guys around here. Everyone got so bent out of shape when Carl arrived. I thought that Daniel's head was going to explode.

(''imitates sound of an explosion, as she falls on her back on her bed.'')

(''Shows clip of Gina and Carl talking outside. Daniel comes and takes Gina away, leaving Carl confused, as he gives an awkward smile to the camera.'')

(''Cuts back to Sarah in her room, as she playfully puts on makeup and a necklace. Next, she fools around by putting a tie on her head, before pulling it off and shaking her hair around. After, she punches a white bear before laughing and putting on another necklace, which she pretends to choke from. Cuts to a different scene, in which she puts on a headband, staring at herself in the mirror.'')

'''Sarah:''' Not to sound stupid and shallow, but (''sigh'') Carl does have a job, and an apartment, and a nice car. And, I know, I know. I shouldn't care about that crap. I don't. Seriously. Okay, and maybe he only ''recently'' left the [[Hymn of One]]. Maybe he ''isn't'' such a good guy. Who cares? (''seductively'') We always have a great time together...If you know what I mean. (''winks'')

(''Shows another clip of Carl and Jennie talking outside, as Jonas looks on awkwardly and uncomfortably.'')

'''Sarah:''' Listen to this: in some goofy, romantic gesture, Carl has offered us a (''does air quotes'') "deal". He'll tell us all the info we need to find Bree's mom, in exchange for some time with me. (''emphasizes'') Alone. (''Leans close to the camera and whispers'') ''Hot''. Okay, so it's a little weird. Like, some hostage crisis situation, or something. But Carl wants to help Gina. And I think it's hot how intimidating he is.

(''Shows a clip from [[Mexican Mating Machine]], in which Carl hands her roses and caresses her face.'')

'''Sarah:''' I'm considering the offer. What do you think?

==Notes==

Hostage Crisis

2008-03-19T05:09:24Z

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'''Sarah:''' Ever since Carl showed up at the [[Mexican Mating Machine|BBQ]], I haven't been able to get him out of my mind. I know. I sound ''completely'' nuts. I think he's sexy. So, there. And I like hanging out with him. You know, he doesn't have to be cool like some of the ''other'' guys around here. Everyone got so bent out of shape when Carl arrived. I thought that Daniel's head was going to explode.

(''imitates sound of an explosion, as she falls on her back on her bed.'')

(''Shows clip of Gina and Carl talking outside. Daniel comes and takes Gina away, leaving Carl confused, as he gives an awkward smile to the camera.'')

(''Cuts back to Sarah in her room, as she playfully puts on makeup and a necklace. Next, she fools around by putting a tie on her head, before pulling it off and shaking her hair around. After, she punches a white bear before laughing and putting on another necklace, which she pretends to choke from. Cuts to a different scene, in which she puts on a headband, staring at herself in the mirror.'')

'''Sarah:''' Not to sound stupid and shallow, but (''sigh'') Carl does have a job, and an apartment, and a nice car. And, I know, I know. I shouldn't care about that crap. I don't. Seriously. Okay, and maybe he only ''recently'' left the [[Hymn of One]]. Maybe he ''isn't'' such a good guy. Who cares? (''seductively'') We always have a great time together...If you know what I mean. (''winks'')

(''Shows another clip of Carl and Jennie talking outside, as Jonas looks on awkwardly and uncomfortably.'')

'''Sarah:''' Listen to this: in some goofy, romantic gesture, Carl has offered us a (''does air quotes'') "deal". He'll tell us all the info we need to find Bree's mom, in exchange for some time with me. (''emphasizes'') Alone. (''Leans close to the camera and whispers'') ''Hot''. Okay, so it's a little weird. Like, some hostage crisis situation, or something. But Carl wants to help Gina. And I think its hot how intimidating he is.

(''Shows a clip from [[Mexican Mating Machine]], in which Carl hands her roses and caresses her face.'')

'''Sarah:''' I'm considering the offer. What do you think?

==Notes==

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She's Ready

2008-03-07T05:51:53Z

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==Transcript==
(''Gina and Jennie are sitting on the bed, as Gina draws. Jennie peeks at Gina's drawing''.)

'''Jennie:''' That's really good.

'''Gina:''' Thanks.

'''Jennie:''' Look, are you sure you want to do this?

(''Cut to Jennie at the desk in front of the camera''.)

'''Jennie:''' Given the way that certain boys have been acting - and it didn't help that [[Daniel]] totally went off on Gina; it really upset her - it's no surprise that she's been quiet. (''Looks at Gina''.) Okay, silent.

(''Cut to Jennie on the bed with Gina''.)

'''Jennie:''' That's quite the horse.

(''Jennie shows various drawings of Gina's to the camera, all of which are horses. Jennie draws a stick figure of herself and shows it to the camera. She mouths "Oh yeah". Jennie shows off more of Gina's horse drawings to the camera. Cut back to Jennie at the desk''.)

'''Jennie:''' But I know Gina needs to speak her mind. I mean, a girl knows, right? (''Cut to Jennie leaning over the back of the chair''.) So, without any interruptions from the Hardy Boys, I give you Gina! Ta-da!

(''Gina sits in a the desk in front of the camera''.)

'''Gina:''' Hey. I'm really sorry about last week. [[Jonas]] and Daniel, I didn't mean to put you guys in any danger. But I'm kinda scared. I don't remember [[Looking for Gina|going]] to [[Bree's bedroom|Bree's house]]. (''Laughs''.) The first thing I do remember is being in the car, everyone screaming.

When I close my eyes, I remember the lab. [[Dr. Calvin Hart|Dr. Hart]]. And everything else, it's like, I'm looking at my life through this window covered in fog. I don't care how dangerous or stupid it seems, I have to find [[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mom]]. I need to talk to her.

(''Cut to Jennie at the desk''.)

'''Jennie:''' Daniel, don't freak out, okay? Um... Well, actually, you're probably right to, but before this becomes another scream-fest, just... please listen. (''Sighs''.) I don't know; maybe the whole group shouldn't go. I- As crazy as it sounds, maybe finding [[Bree]]'s adopted mom is something that Gina needs to do by herself. We need to discuss this as a group, and Gina has a right to be heard, but I really don't know if this is a decision we can make on our own.

You guys, we're gonna be in a live chat tonight at six o'clock. If you could just go to this link (''"www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15" appears on the screen''.) maybe you guys can help us figure out what to do. Thanks.

== Notes ==
*Following this video, there was a live in-character chat regarding what Gina should do. Audio can be found [http://audio.nowlive.com:443/stream/miniplayer/100274635-080304-361204684617.mp3 here].
**Callers in chat were angelprincess808, angelgirlrider19, theaterjunkie, and midgetdance.
**The chat ended with [[Sarah]] storming off, angry that Gina meeting up with Bree's mom was even being considered. Jonas changed his mind mid-chat and decided to support Gina in her quest. Daniel got upset that Gina could meet the same fate as Bree and decided to not help her.
**The chat divided the [[TAAG]] into two factions: Gina, Jonas, and Jennie (who will search for Bree's mom, and answers); Daniel and Sarah.

What Have I Done?

2008-03-07T05:51:29Z

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(''Gina is in the living room with the camera on her lap, and Sarah is sitting on a chair across the room''.)

'''Daniel:''' Sarah, all you do is put us at risk.

'''Sarah:''' How can you say that to me? You know, you really know how to make me feel like crap.

'''Daniel:''' Come on! You walked back from [[Prey|the store]] when you ''knew'' the [[Shadow]] was tracking us.

'''Sarah:''' Daniel, I didn't do a-

'''Daniel:''' Didn't you think you might be leading him to our doorstep? Huh?

'''Sarah:''' I'm sorry, okay? I was just trying to help. I- I guess I wasn't thinking.

'''Daniel:''' Think, Sarah.

'''Sarah:''' Don't worry. (''Leans in to try and kiss Daniel''.) There'll be plenty of time for thinking (''Daniel moves away''.) when it's just you and me.

'''Gina:''' Wow. So out of here.

(''Gina walks to Daniel and Jonas's bedroom, where Jennie and Jonas are packing''.)

'''Jennie:''' Yeah, but (inaudible).

'''Jonas:''' Well, if there's any [[Lullaby Project]], then I think- Hey, Gina. Then think that's our first lead to find [[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mom]], you know?

'''Jennie:''' Yeah, well, the [[Hymn of One]] could set up a Lullaby Project in a matter of days, but they could be anywhere.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. [[Carl]]'s still our best lead. He's still heavily into the Hymn of One, you know?

'''Jennie:''' Yeah. He was a real true believer.

'''Jonas:''' (''Looks at Gina''.) Um...

'''Jennie:''' Can you pass me that scarf?

'''Jonas:''' Uh, yeah.

(''Jonas grabs a scarf from a box nearby and hands it to Jennie''.)

'''Jennie:''' Thank you.

'''Jonas:''' Hey, Gina, I need to talk to you. I'm gonna be honest: we're not sure how involved Bree's mom was with the Hymn of One. You know?

'''Jennie:''' Do you mean she could have actually been ''in'' [[the Order]]?

'''Jonas:''' It's possible. Anything's possible; the thing is that we don't know for sure. Alright? But we're gonna find Bree's mom. For you. Okay? 'Cause that's what you asked us to do. Alright... Oh, uh, and I think you should say goodbye to Sarah and Daniel tonight because we're getting an early start tomorrow morning. I'm gonna get something to eat.

'''Jennie:''' Okay.

(''Gina turns the camera on herself after Jennie and Jonas have gone''.)

'''Gina:''' We're splitting up. I'm splitting everybody up.

==Notes==

She's Ready

2008-03-05T05:10:40Z

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==Transcript==
(''Gina and Jennie are sitting on the bed, as Gina draws. Jennie peeks at Gina's drawing''.)

'''Jennie:''' That's really good.

'''Gina:''' Thanks.

'''Jennie:''' Look, are you sure you want to do this?

(''Cut to Jennie at the desk in front of the camera''.)

'''Jennie:''' Given the way that certain boys have been acting - and it didn't help that [[Daniel]] totally went off on Gina; it really upset her - it's no surprise that she's been quiet. (''Looks at Gina''.) Okay, silent.

(''Cut to Jennie on the bed with Gina''.)

'''Jennie:''' That's quite the horse.

(''Jennie shows various drawings of Gina's to the camera, all of which are horses. Jennie draws a stick figure of herself and shows it to the camera. She mouths "Oh yeah". Jennie shows off more of Gina's horse drawings to the camera. Cut back to Jennie at the desk''.)

'''Jennie:''' But I know Gina needs to speak her mind. I mean, a girl knows, right? (''Cut to Jennie leaning over the back of the chair''.) So, without any interruptions from the Hardy Boys, I give you Gina! Ta-da!

(''Gina sits in a the desk in front of the camera''.)

'''Gina:''' Hey. I'm really sorry about last week. [[Jonas]] and Daniel, I didn't mean to put you guys in any danger. But I'm kinda scared. I don't remember [[Looking for Gina|going]] to [[Bree's bedroom|Bree's house]]. (''Laughs''.) The first thing I do remember is being in the car, everyone screaming.

When I close my eyes, I remember the lab. [[Dr. Calvin Hart|Dr. Hart]]. And everything else, it's like, I'm looking at my life through this window covered in fog. I don't care how dangerous or stupid it seems, I have to find [[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mom]]. I need to talk to her.

(''Cut to Jennie at the desk''.)

'''Jennie:''' Daniel, don't freak out, okay? Um... Well, actually, you're probably right to, but before this becomes another scream-fest, just... please listen. (''Sighs''.) I don't know; maybe the whole group shouldn't go. I- As crazy as it sounds, maybe finding [[Bree]]'s adopted mom is something that Gina needs to do by herself. We need to discuss this as a group, and Gina has a right to be heard, but I really don't know if this is a decision we can make on our own.

You guys, we're gonna be in a live chat tonight at six o'clock. If you could just go to this link (''"www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15" appears on the screen''.) maybe you guys can help us figure out what to do. Thanks.

== Notes ==
*Following this video, there was a live in-character chat regarding what Gina should do. Audio can be found [http://audio.nowlive.com:443/stream/miniplayer/100274635-080304-361204684617.mp3 here].
**Callers in chat were angelprincess808, angelgirlrider19, theaterjunkie, and midgetdance.
**The chat ended with [[Sarah]] storming off, angry that Gina meeting up with Bree's mom was even being considered. Jonas changed his mind mid-chat and decided to support Gina in her quest. Daniel got upset that Gina could meet the same fate as Bree and decided to not help her.
**The chat divided the [[TAAG]] into two factions: Gina, Jonas, and Jennie (who will search for Bree's mom, and answers); Daniel and Sarah.

Lost & Found

2008-01-23T06:38:57Z

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==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' Hey, guys. We're all together: me, [[Sarah]], [[Jennie]], and [[Jonas]]. And we're at an- (''Receives a glass of water''.)

Look, we spent the weekend going over [[Am I A Criminal?|everything we found]] at [[Ted McKinley|McKinley]]'s place. The clinical trials, the medical history... And you guys aren't going to believe this: [[Gina]] isn't Patient 11. In fact, there are pictures of ''all'' the girls in the Hart Study. Gina wasn't even a patient; her name isn't mentioned - anywhere. It just doesn't make any sense.

The good news is that we think we figured out who's behind [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals|Verdus]]. See, Jonas was going over McKinley's company budgets, and found over $500 million in wire transfers going from Biotherapy Report LLC to Verdus Pharmaceuticals, specifically the Hart Study and the [[Lullaby Project]]. Now, who would want to invest half-a-billion dollars to produce [[trait positive]] girls? Biotherapy Report LLC is just a front for [[the Order]]. And it's not doubt that they're the ones that [[KIDNAPPED!|took Emma]].

Now, we have the P.O. Box for Biotherapy. It's not a big lead, but it's where we're headed. I just hope that [[Emma]]'s still okay.

Alright, everyone. (''Folds up a map and puts it in his pocket. Daniel takes out some money and drops a twenty-dollar bill on the table''.) Be safe.

==Notes==
*Despite saying he needed our help in the description, Daniel does not call for any fan action in the actual video.
*It is easy to assume that the P.O. Box [[TAAG]] found is located in San Fransisco, after the creators announced that the live event would take place there.

Portal:lonelygirl15

2007-09-27T06:26:48Z

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