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Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:21:27Z

68.18.203.44: /* Is OpAphid back? */ NOW it makes sense.

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]
*Tachyon's confirmed return indicates that Brother, though not mentioned, may not be too far away.

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost and that OpAphid is supernatural. Others argue it was an image added in post-production to conceal her identity, but let intended parties know that she is involved.
* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:19:54Z

68.18.203.44: /* Is Brother back? */ it's possible...

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]
*Tachyon's confirmed return indicates that Brother, though not mentioned, may not be too far away.

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:18:14Z

68.18.203.44: /* Grandson */ Replaced the baseless theory with some more likely ones.

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

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Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:13:25Z

68.18.203.44: /* Who shot Joel and what was the motive? */ please somehow add this link for the message... lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Joel%27s_voice_mail

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' [[Mr. Zipp]] was a member of a Christian rock band and being on tour is what allows him to plant drops all over. Having a knowledge of tableture would be vital in some of the puzzles. Maddy mentions him in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. Mr. Zipp might be be the grandson mentioned in 677 Dickinson Rusk.

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

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