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2008-04-16T03:39:54Z

68.18.212.61: New page: didn't Bree (maysherestinpeace) say a looong time ago that many Elders were in law enforcement, and that's why they couldn't call the police? seems almost an interesting throwback. --[[use...

didn't Bree (maysherestinpeace) say a looong time ago that many Elders were in law enforcement, and that's why they couldn't call the police? seems almost an interesting throwback. --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

File talk:0460-Sarah.jpg

2008-04-16T00:31:49Z

68.18.212.61: New page: :rofl: my nephew thought this was a picture of one of his aunts, then his mom, then me! The boy is sweet. ...Blind, but sweet. --Nieriel.Manwathiel

:rofl: my nephew thought this was a picture of one of his aunts, then his mom, then me! The boy is sweet. ...Blind, but sweet. --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

Final Appeal

2008-04-16T00:23:48Z

68.18.212.61: /* Notes */ I'm sorry. I think it is way too much to call this benign friendly jab a feminist statement! -- A female tired of stereotypical femenism, aka Nieriel.Manwathiel

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==Transcript==
(''The camera zooms in on Lucy, carrying the present from [[Shop of Horrors!!!]], on the dock''.)

'''Jonas:''' We followed Lucy to the dock on Friday and, uh, she left. (''Lucy approaches the loading ramp and hands her ticket to the deckhand''.) So we decided to stay for a while. (''Cut to Jonas''.) Who's that doll for that she's carrying, you know? (''Cut to Lucy boarding the ferry''.) Who's gonna die next for [[Bree's Elder]]? Sick bastard.

We know Bree's Elder's connected to the coat of arms requesting for the [[Mary Annette|marionette]]. (''Cut to a shot of the coat of arms''.) Centuries old, possibly from England... (''Cut to a close up of the symbol and motto''.) The symbol and the quote on it are the work of [[Aleister Crowley|Crowley]]. (''Cut to a close up of the crest''.) And the crest - the things sitting at the top - are two back-to-back phoenixes, which... symbolizes some sort of resurrection.

(''Cut to Jonas standing at the beach''.)

So basically this is our final appeal. Has anyone seen the coat of arms? 'Cause... it's all we got. I'm gonna p-

'''Jennie:''' Hey, there.

'''Jonas:''' Hey, Jennie. (''Turns the camera to show Jennie approaching''.) I'm just gonna finish this up real quickly, okay?

'''Jennie:''' So who's more obsessed right now: Jonas or [[Daniel]]? (''Smiles at the camera''.)

'''Jonas:''' Come on... Jennie... You know why I'm doing this. This is not about me. You know, you're involved with this, too, now.

'''Jennie:''' You're right. I'm sorry. I'll let you finish. (''Begins walking away''.)

'''Jonas:''' Wait for me at the hotel?

'''Jennie:''' Sure. Not gonna wait forever.

(''Jennie grins and walks away. Cut back to Jonas''.)

'''Jonas:''' So if anyone has seen it - this coat of arms - please just let us know. I'm gonna post it at [[LG15.com]]. This is our last chance.

==Notes==
[[Image:CoatOfArms.jpg|thumb|left|The crest of [[Bree's Elder]].]]
*Daniel posted the coat of arms two days previous in the forums [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17051 here].
*[[Steve]] from the [[KateModern]] series posted [[Called To Arms|a video response]] to this video the following day, suggesting an in person meeting between TAAG and Steve.
*Here, Jennie takes control of her relationship with Jonas. When Jennie says ''You're right. I'm sorry. I'll let you finish.'' (but) ''I'm not going to wait forever'', she is telling Jonas two things. First, that she is willing to compromise. Second, that she expects him to meet her half way and if Jonas is either unable or unwilling, Jennie is fully prepared to pack up and leave without him. This is a strong [[feminist themes|feminist]] statement of empowerment. Though the fact that it is a commonly used faux-threat amongst friends may be indicative of the writers using contemporary dialog, as well as possibly being proof that Jennie sees her relationship with Jonas as "normal" (despite the entire group's situation being characteristically abnormal).

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:21:27Z

68.18.203.44: /* Is OpAphid back? */ NOW it makes sense.

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]
*Tachyon's confirmed return indicates that Brother, though not mentioned, may not be too far away.

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost and that OpAphid is supernatural. Others argue it was an image added in post-production to conceal her identity, but let intended parties know that she is involved.
* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:19:54Z

68.18.203.44: /* Is Brother back? */ it's possible...

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]
*Tachyon's confirmed return indicates that Brother, though not mentioned, may not be too far away.

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:18:14Z

68.18.203.44: /* Grandson */ Replaced the baseless theory with some more likely ones.

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' If he is the same age as Maddy, he could have been the crush Maddy mentioned in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. If this guitar player is the grandson, the tabilature clues Mr. Zipp dropped could be proof of his true identity. [Though Mr. Zip's first message stated that he had a daughter.]

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

Following the Clues

2008-01-29T00:13:25Z

68.18.203.44: /* Who shot Joel and what was the motive? */ please somehow add this link for the message... lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Joel%27s_voice_mail

Return to [[Maddison Avenue]]

Ask "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?"

==Key Characters==
* [[Clara Stokes]] - student
* [[Linc]] - former OpAphid agent
* [[Rachel]] - student
* [[Joel Frady]] (dead) - accused murderer
* [[Cynthia Frady]] - wife of accused murder
* [[Bethany Frady]] - daughter of accused murder
* [[Adam Lamar]] - Pine Log Editor
* [[Officer Terrell]] - police officer
* [[John Davies]] - Nacogdoches DA
* [[Gregory Atkins]] - Maddison's dad
* [[Duke Johnson]] - friend of Joel Frady
* [[Scott (Redearth88 character)|Scott]] - a religious person
* [[Rene]] - Scott's wife
* [[15over15]] - unseen to date, but gave instruction to Linc and Clara
* [[Adam|Adam Wilmott]] (presumed dead)
* [[Maddison Atkins]] (presumed dead)

==Date Rape: Blood Drive==
'''Evidence:''' [[Adam Lamar|Ten girls were drugged]] at a show and woke up the next day with needle marks in their arm.

'''Discussion:'''
* The drug might be roofies leading to the suggested title "Date Rape: Blood Drive". However there is not evidence that the girls were raped
* The needle marks suggest that blood may have been drawn from the girls but it could also be explained by something being injected.
* The number of girls and the suggestion that blood may have been draw could suggest that there was an attempt to screen the girls for some type of blood characteristic.

==What if Joel really was Zipp?==
'''Theory:''' Joel contacted Maddy and helped her fake her death.

'''Evidence:''' It's never actually stated that they found the bodies

==Is Duke Johnson involved?==
'''Evidence:''' He works for a mobile blood unit.

'''Discussion:''' The girls had needles marks could be connected to this.

==Who took the takes and why?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Missing Tapes]] it is revealed that Clara has lost her video tapes.

'''Discussion:''' There appears to be no evidence that the trunk of Clara's car (where the video tapes were stored) had been tampered with leading to the conclusion that either someone had access to her car key or someone picked the lock.

==Who created the Bethany trust fund?==
'''Evidence:''' A trust fund has allegedly been set up for [[Bethany Frady]] when she turns 18.

'''Discussion:''' Who created the Bethany trust fund mentioned in the [[Cynthia Frady]] video? This would appear to suggest that [[Joel Frady]] received payment for some service provided in the form a a trust fund for his daughter, Bethany Frady. Who was the man who told Cynthia about the trust fund after the murder of Maddy and Adam?

==The history of the "church building"==
'''Evidence:''' The "chruch" holds ceremonies in the building at 677 Dickinson Rusk.

'''Discussion:'''
* In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called [[Judy Donald]] whose grandson goes to the church would know about the history of the building. The unknown history of the building leads some to believe it may be of significance.

==Who put the third vial in the brief case?==
'''Evidence:''' A third note and vial was found in the briefcase and Maddison's apartment.

'''Discussion:'''
*If her mom went over a lot to clean up, why were all the spices and stuff still sitting where they were before?
*Now her father had the keys so he would also be a suspect.

==Who is 15OVER15?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Text and Voice Messages]] Clara receives text and voice messages from 15over15.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know how[[15OVER15]] obtained Clara's phone number but she did give her card to Scott at the "church".
* The voice message came from Cynthia Frady's cell phone.

==Who shot Joel and what was the motive?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Joel is Dead]], Clara and Adam Lamar find Joel shot dead at Margil Park on the LeNana Creek Trail. A gun was found beside the body.

'''Discussion:'''
* At this time we have no idea who or why Joel was shot but it may be connected to the fact that Clara is asking questions about the case.
* The police say suicide. If so, where did the gun come from and who did it belong to?
* We do not know how Joel escapted from jail, or what he did while his was out. The only clue has been the [[Text and Voice Messages|phone message]] received by Clara.
* "Help my girl. Saw a door. Police listening. White room. An angel put something in me for you. Must confess. In his eyes. De Jesus. Come. My Bethany. Bethany." - what does that mean?

==Grandson==
'''Evidence:''' In [[677 Dickinson Rusk]] Scott mentioned an old lady called Judy Donald whose grandson goes to the church.

'''Theory:''' [[Mr. Zipp]] was a member of a Christian rock band and being on tour is what allows him to plant drops all over. Having a knowledge of tableture would be vital in some of the puzzles. Maddy mentions him in her [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=117&t=8897&p=313624&hilit=#p313624 4th forum post]. Mr. Zipp might be be the grandson mentioned in 677 Dickinson Rusk.

==The ZorinXL connection==
'''Evidence:'''
*On April 25th Linc released a video "Intense Jihad If Cubit Dipped" which shows a tornado and was believed to be him stating that he was on his way to rescue Maddy and Adam.
*On April 27th, Zorinxl released BAR BRED SCUM, it has an image of a tornado and hidden morse code message stating "Twisters leave trails as do our hansel and Gretel."
*On April 29th [[No More]] was posted.

==How did Rachel's parents die==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[First Date Postmortem]] we find out that Rachel's parents both died in a car crash when she was 9 years old.

'''Discussion:'''
* Rachel was in the car but has no memory of the crash until she was in the hospital.
* What caused the crash? Was it a random crash or were there other forces at work?

==Is Brother back?==
'''Evidence:'''
*After the video [[Cut To The Chase]] we hear [[Tachyon]] music.
*After the release of the video Clara's friends that the music on Brother's phone had changed.
*Discuss the new Brother voice mail [http://lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=12740]. The new song is Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Listen to the audio file [http://www.acidfingers.com/hosted/brother-7-30-vm.mp3]

==Is OpAphid back?==
'''Evidence:''' In the video [[Worth The Wait?]] an image very similar to previous images of [[OpAphid]] are seen.

* Some people have speculated that the image is a ghost but just as many believe it is real.

* OpAphid makes a new video called [[Remember Me?]]

==Why was Clara drunk in IRC chat?==
'''Evidence:''' On August 1, 2007 Clara visited IRC chat and appeared to be drunk.

'''Discussion:'''
* We do not know what really movited this chat. It could have been fun, a distraction, character development or any of a number of other thing.
* Clara made a statement about handing out Aderol to everyone in the chatroom. Aderol is a common mis-spelling for the prescription drug Adderall used for ADD & ADHD. Also, she made a reference to fire shortly before stating that she was going outside to smoke.

==Maddison Atkins Related Time Line==
''(See [[Breeniverse Timeline]] for Lonelygirl15 timeline)''
*January 25, 2006 Tachyon joined YouTube [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tachyon]
*February 15th, 2006, [[Gemma]] emailed "Sebastian" an apology for how she had behaved earlier in class.[http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Brother]
*March 01, 2006 - Rachel joined YoutTube with the account redearth [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=redearth]
*May 30, 2006 - Brother joined YouTube with the account 10033 [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=10033] and posted first video.
*August 29, 2006 Lonelygirl15 - Swimming (reference point - Cassie first mentioned)
*September 12, 2006 Cassieiswatching - This Is My Story Now (reference point)
*September 19 2006 is when OpAphid hacked Cassies helter skelter voicemail and replaced it with everyones messages
*September 23, 2006 OpAphid joned YouTube.
*September 24th, 2006 Tachyon - - An update of sorts (first video).
*September 24th, 2006 OpAphid - You Made the Right Choice, Bree! (first video).
*October 07, 2006 Frankiswaking joined YouTube (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=frankiswaking]
*October 10, 2006 Immant - Greetings from the Order.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGRBRKJSaVo] (reference point)
*October 13, 2006 breeiswaiting - whitegreenwhite (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQJ2gGFHWs&]
*October 19, 2006 Gemma joined YouTube and posts first video (reference point) [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gemmers19]
*October 28, 2006 OpAphid - The Action of an Enemy - Be Careful [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmhb01nuI4] (key OpAphid video)
*October 30, 2006 NikkiBowerReport joined YouTube (reference point)
*November 01, 2006 NikkiBowerReport posted her first video called LG15 in Topanga Canyon - NBR 1 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV4gFuuvjUg]
*November 26, 2006 OpAphid - Adventures in Babysitting [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gCliC7-gc]
*February 05, 2007 - Linc joined YouTube with the acount dehteraew
*April 10, 2007 - Maddison joined YouTube
*April 11th, 2007 - First video posted ([[What Happened Today Part 1]])
*April 29th, 2007 - [[No More]] posted
*July 04, 2007 - 15OVER15 joined YouTube[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=15over15]
*July 06, 2007 - Linc changed YouTube account name to lofisyndicate[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lofisyndicate]
*July 10, 2007 - Clara joined youtube with the account amblyopianne[http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=amblyopianne]
*July 10th, 2007 - Clara posted [[Thesis Statement]]

[[Category:Redearth88]]

In (Search of) sanity...

2007-06-26T05:50:02Z

68.18.211.150: /* Notes */ IMHO

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'''In (Search of) sanity...''' is the two hundred ninteenth video in the lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
(''Jonas is sitting in his car.'')

'''Jonas:''' I realize there isn't much we can do right now about finding [[Bree]]. The lynchpin is this [[Spencer]] Gilman guy, but thanks to our fans we did find his [[MySpace]] page over the weekend.

(''Cuts to shots of Spencer's MySpace.'')

'''Jonas:''' Unfortunately, there's not much on it. However, he is 22; he lives in LA; and works as a scientist for [[Neutrogena]]. Daniel, Sarah, and I, we e-mailed him like non-stop over the weekend. No luck. I friended him though, so he didn't think I was a complete psycho.

(''Cuts back to Jonas in the car.'')

'''Jonas:''' Until he contacts us, our hands are really tied. This might sound selfish...

(''Cuts to [[Daniel]] and [[Sarah]] goofing around on a sofa.'')

'''Jonas:''' ...but I just can't be around their closeness right now.

(''Cuts back to Jonas in the car.'')

'''Jonas:''' I just.. I just can't. So I've decided to take a trip to [[Zavalla]], Texas by myself. I'm gonna stay with [[Taylor]]. She's out of school now, so it's perfect. And I know what you're thinking, right: [[1500 Miles]]. Yeah. But I really think I could use that drive time to just...think. And it's, it's great... I mean it's going to be great because Taylor and I can just focus all of our energies on this Spencer Gilman guy. I'm starting to realize how crucial his father is in all of this. I mean, they killed [[Bree's parents#Father|Bree's dad]] just to stop him from giving her the compound. I am just praying that the secret on how to make this compound still lives with the son, Spencer. If not, then this could be the end of the line. I am not giving up on this guy any time soon. My greatest fear is that... my last goodbye to Bree is going to be... in a vlog. I'm not gonna let that happen.

==Notes==
* It seems odd that Jonas would decide to leave Los Angeles once he discovered Spencer Gilman was based there. It's possible this will be used for a sort of plot device either concerning Jonas or to later form excitement with an eventual reuinion with Daniel and Sarah later on.

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T09:06:24Z

68.18.211.41:

== Sex Sex Sex! ==
So Jonas ''did'' have sex then? Weird. :] But kinda cool. It's like the series is finally growing up. -tear- <3<3<3-Demented lama

Taylor seems to be taking a page from the KBS ("Kinky Book of Sarah") with that private school getup and riding crop! OW! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Playing Favourites ==
Is anyone finding they like Taylor and Sarah more than any of the original characters? Is it just me? They don't WHINE and everyone else does... [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 02:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:This is false. Sarah whines twice as much as Bree, Daniel and Jonas combined. Every time she opens her mouth it is to whine. She has never done anything except to whine. That is Sarah. She's an ex-cheerleader who thinks shes smart now that she's discovered Silvia Plaith and wears black. BFD! but Taylor is pretty hot. I like her recent video where she shows her sexy side. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7

== Email ==
I'd like to have a link to the email Taylor refers to in the video, but I can't figure out how to add it without http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403381&sid=22bd786f107a8bb26b28250b6cf5c7ff#40338 showing up on the page. And that's kinda long. I'm sure there's some really easy way to do this that I'm just unaware of. --[[User:Sunkist|Sunkist]] 02:49, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

wait a minute; am I the only one who noticed Taylor NOT going into mixed message number 1? I'm confuzzled... Also, some of the things in the e-mail might need to be referenced with the video (I was wondering where in the crap the reference to "callous" came from...)--[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T09:00:36Z

68.18.211.41:

Talk:Like A Virgin

2007-06-14T09:00:01Z

68.18.211.41:

== Sex Sex Sex! ==
So Jonas ''did'' have sex then? Weird. :] But kinda cool. It's like the series is finally growing up. -tear- <3<3<3-Demented Llama
Taylor seems to be taking a page from the KBS ("Kinky Book of Sarah") with that private school getup and riding crop! OW! --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== Playing Favourites ==
Is anyone finding they like Taylor and Sarah more than any of the original characters? Is it just me? They don't WHINE and everyone else does... [[User:TokyoMike|Mike In Tokyo!]] 02:43, 14 June 2007 (CDT)
:This is false. Sarah whines twice as much as Bree, Daniel and Jonas combined. Every time she opens her mouth it is to whine. She has never done anything except to whine. That is Sarah. She's an ex-cheerleader who thinks shes smart now that she's discovered Silvia Plaith and wears black. BFD! but Taylor is pretty hot. I like her recent video where she shows her sexy side. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] june 14 2k7

== Email ==
I'd like to have a link to the email Taylor refers to in the video, but I can't figure out how to add it without http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403381&sid=22bd786f107a8bb26b28250b6cf5c7ff#40338 showing up on the page. And that's kinda long. I'm sure there's some really easy way to do this that I'm just unaware of. --[[User:Sunkist|Sunkist]] 02:49, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Talk:Sing With Me

2007-05-25T17:41:58Z

68.18.203.224:

bree doesn't look very different weight-wise, but maybe it's a sign they're feeding her decently (how good of a diet can u get when you're on the run?) --[[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]

== woo woo hym of one! ==

* who's joining? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] may 25 2007