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Talk:She's Missing

2008-06-27T01:39:54Z

67.10.187.154: /* Picture Debate: Escape vs. Romance */

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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 06:33, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
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== Picture Debate: Escape vs. Romance ==

Why did you change the Pic? The one I put up first, I thought captured the essence of the video. But you decided to put a "romantic " picture there that totally creates a false image of Bree's and Jonas's relationship. I know there are at least 100 girls out there that want to believe that Jonas and Bree are in love, but that's just not where the story is at. If I hadn't already seen the video, I would assume from that picture that Bree and Jonas were about to jump into bed together. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 00:46, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

: I think there is a definitely love connection going on. And I don't just say that because I have a $50 bet with ApotheosisAZ about it. I can't say one pic is preferred over the other as the video had two storylines. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 00:49, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

:You know what, I think two people can watch the same thing and get totally different ideas about what it's about. To ''me'' the main point of the vid was advancing the Bree and Jonas relationship. But if other people thought it was more about Jonas and Daniel looking for Jules, I'm fine with that too. I know that's what the video was actually /about/ but I just felt like the BJ stuff was more the character-purpose of the vid. I'd love opinions though? :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 00:58, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

::Hmm, this one is a little tough. I think that we see the plot moving along more often than we see a "romantic connection", so maybe we should highlight the romantic stuff when it does come along. That's not to say the plot stuff isn't important--it definitely is--but the image obviously isn't the only thing that gives people information about the video. That's just my opinion, and there really isn't a ''right'' answer; it's just preference really.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 01:12, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
:: Except in this video there wasn't any romantic stuff to highlight. The interaction in the scene that the picture came from was one of bree being upset and Jonas trying to comfort her. That picture out of context, you can't tell that breee had tears in her eyes and was upset. It looks like Bree and Jonas are looking at each other with passsionate desire, but if you look at it in context, you don't get that at all. The picture and the caption are telling a totally different story about Bree and Jonas's relationship than the video is. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

:misty, you are in denial. jules missing is the initial cause for blog but as soon as jonas turns around to comfort bre, the plot focus shifts. the search for bre is a device, in this case, to illustrate a crucial character difference between jonas and daniel. daniel tends towards the direct aproach to solving the surface issues (jules is missing) and jonas tends towards the oblique aproach to the underlining issue (bre unable to shift jules' free will). the romantic implications are strong because ultamately, bre will fall in love with either or both jonas and daniel. granted she's in a stressful spot and doesn't have time for love right now but i'm sure anybody out there who has ever been in a stressful situation knows that these kinds of situations generaly open doors to romance. - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] may 10 2007

::I really think the current picture is perfect, this coming from someone who is semi-against Jonas and Bree becoming a "thing." The vid started out about Jules but ultimately became about Bree's distress over Jules, and Jonas comforting her. People will take from it what they want. This vid will soon be drowned in a couple days, so it's really not that big of a deal. Plus, people are blowing it up like Jonas and Bree started making out or something. He kissed her on the forehead, big deal. Yeah, it does seem like they are growing on eachother, but it seriously is not that major. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 12:21, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I also agree that the BJ picture should stay and for many of the above reasons. I doubt Bree and Jonas will "make out all the time" as Sarah once claimed, but this is definitely a nod that something is brewing. And like Chelseyrl said, once we have a few more vids, we can see how all this will turn out. -- [[User:Phoenician|Phoenician]] 12:44 PM, 10 May 2007 (AZT)
:::: Well if you want all want a pic of Bree and Jonas, how about [[image:0189-JonasHuggingBree.jpg|80px]]. That's a much more honest pic for this Video -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:36, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
:::: you're being rediculous, misty. i can appreciate the analytical discussion but it's time to move on. [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] may 10 2007
:::::I think I would have picked a similar or even exact frame to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] for the main video image had I not seen it already. (Sorry, Misty... 1 more vote for the current pic.) Bree gives Jonas a number of these wonderful looks during the video (e.g. [[image:0189-BreeLookingAtJonas.jpg|40px]]

Ummm this video got taken down from youtube... weird..--[[User:67.10.187.154|67.10.187.154]] 20:39, 26 June 2008 (CDT)

Theories About Characters

2008-06-20T00:03:57Z

67.10.187.154: /* Jennie */

This page is used to post your theories about [[Lonelygirl15 characters|characters]], not including [[ARG]] characters such as [[Tachyon]], [[cassieiswatching|CiW]], etc. You can put anything from what the character's motives are, what they will do in the next video, or even what something from their first video meant.

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==Notable Characters==
===Bree===
*She is a [[moonchild]].
*[[Bree]] is not dead, but will not be returning.
*Bree was pregnant when she died
*Bree is hiding in the mountains near Sedona.
*Bree went to Russian Siberia to find her [[Bree's biological parents|biological parents]].
*Bree will return sometime in season 3.
*The vlogs in which Bree completed [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the ceremony]] were altered by [[Daniel]] and Jonas to look like Bree died. Daniel and Jonas really did rescue Bree from [[the Order]], and the ceremony.
*Bree is a clone of [[Gina]].
*Bree was also Cassie.
*Bree is alive, and now working with [[Tachyon]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Bree may be [[Kate]]/[[Emma]]'s biological sister. <small>(Bree has only one sister, [[Gina]].)</small>
*Bree gave her self up to the Order, because she was dying of the the same disease as Gina. <small>(Gina was never dying from a disease.)</small>
*Bree will appear in the [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]] of [[lonelygirl15|lg15]].
*Bree is hiding in the Bunker with Emma, and [[TAAG]] will find her there.
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===Daniel===
*[[Daniel]] is working for [[the Order]].
*Daniel will fall in love with [[Sarah]].
*Daniel's paranoia will get him killed.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Daniel was in love with [[Bree]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Daniel will die in the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]].
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===Emma===
*She will be used by [[the Order]] to breed other [[trait positive]] girls.
*She has an early bedtime because she has to build up strength for [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the ceremony]].
*She was abducted as a baby. ([[Dr. Griffin]] explains in [[Dr. Weirdo]] that as a rule, trait positive girls are abducted as babies)
*She will do the ceremony and die like [[Bree]].
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width="50%">'''Proven'''
*She was adopted by [[Jonas's parents]] around age 9. <small>(Jonas's parents disappeared 6 years ago and Emma is now around age 15)</small>
*She is hiding in the Bunker.
*She is the girl that [[Lucy]] picked up the doll for in "[[Shop of Horrors!!!]]".
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*She has the power to kill any person who have trait-positive blood, especially [[the Elders]].
*Emma is dying of the same illness that [[Gina]] has. <small>(While Jonas confirms that her illness is the same as Gina's, we find out that Gina is not dead in [[KIDNAPPED!]])</small>
*[[Emma]] is Bree's biological sister.
*She is dead, just like [[Dr. Calvin Hart|Dr. Hart]].
*She took [[Purple Monkey]] and the other stuffed friends with her when she left.
*Following the events in [[I Love You All]], Emma will no longer be a main character.
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===Gina===
*Gina is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Gina knows [[Cassie]] but doesn't know that she knew [[Bree]]
*Gina was brainwashed to forget most of what she went through in the [[Hart Study]].
*Gina was drugged after she was abducted in ''[[Bree's Mom]]''.
*Dr Hart was trying to fake Gina's death by the video "[[Get Your Freak On]]", to protect her. This was also the purpose of the videos of Gina looking very sick.
*Gina is not really dead and was kidnapped by the Order to do the cermoney if they can redeem her blood
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Gina will become a main character in season 3.
*Gina is Bree's biological sister.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The girl in ''[[KIDNAPPED!]]'' is not [[Gina]].
*Gina is Cassie because she knew Bree's mother and had been to the Avery's house before. <small>(She revealed in her chat that she is not Cassie.)</small>
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===Jennie===
*[[Jennie]] is a member of the [[Hymn of One]].
*Jennie is a plant by [[the Order]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Jennie is manipulating [[Gina]], to send Gina back to the Order.
*Jennie will get wrapped up in the campaign, because it is the work she loves to do.
*Jennie will end up killing Edward Salinas.
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===Jonas===
*[[Jonas]] will become brainwashed by [[the Order]].
*Jonas will fall in love with [[Jennie]].
*Jonas does not trust [[TAAG]] and will do things on his own.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Jonas was killed by [[Virgil]].
*Jonas will die in the [[Season Two Finale|season 2 finale]].
*Jonas will find [[Bree]] when he is in London.
*Jonas will get killed in London.
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===LaRezisto===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[LaRezisto]] is working against [[TAAG]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*LaRezisto is the man in black outside of [[Daniel]]'s house. He was responsible for [[Deep Throat]] and for [[Alex]]'s betrayal of [[the Order]]. When [[Bree]] returned to the [[Hymn Of One]] unbrainwashed, LaRezisto contacted her and together, they devised a plan to send the email with code that would notify LR when Daniel had opened the message, showing that he was ready to find the other girls.
*LaRezisto isn't a single person, it is a group similar to the Order, with members all over the world.
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===Lucy===
*[[Lucy]] did not have knowledge of the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony]], and was therefore unable to answer [[Bree]]'s questions about it.
*After learning the truth about the Ceremony, Lucy is now trying to help [[TAAG]].
*Many Lucys exist, possibly as an attempt to keep watch over all the girls, and if one should go into another Lucy's area, the girl will feel comfortable, thinking that Lucy is their Lucy.
*Lucy is somehow related to [[Kate]].
*Lucy is the true leader/head of the [[Hymn of One]] and [[the Order]].
*After the deaths of the [[Rogue Elder]] and [[William Porter]], Lucy has been upgraded to [[Elder]].
*Lucy is [[Lord Carruthers]]' shadow.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Lucy]] is [[OpAphid]] or working for them. <small>(The characters [[Tachyon]]/[[OpAphid]]/[[Brother]] cannot legally be used by The Creators)</small>
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===Mallory===
*[[Mallory]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*[[Mallory]] is dead
*Mallory is [[trait positive]].
*Mallory is using the film school to distract [[Daniel]] from fighting the Order.
*Mallory, angry and hurt after Daniel broke up with her, went to give info to the Order.
*Mallory will no longer appear on the show.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Mallory is having some sort of relationship with [[Mr. Banks]]/[[Professor DelMundo]]. <small>(In the video "[[Hot for Teacher]]", Daniel saw that Mallory had kissed Professor DelMundo .)</small>
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Mallory will see the lg15 videos and help Daniel save the other girls. <small>(She has seen the videos, but continues to not want Daniel to go & fight)</small>
*Mallory and Daniel will break up because of Daniel helping the other girls.
*Mallory will break up with Daniel because of [[Sarah]].
*Mallory will die in the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] [[Season Two Finale]].
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===The Order===
*[[The Elders]] are the only ones who have information about [[the Order]].
*When the Order attempted to kidnap [[Emma]], they were supposed to kill [[Jonas]] as well.
*They didn't use [[the Ceremony]] to lure Emma in because they feared she might have seen the lg15 videos.
*[[Lord Carruthers]] is the head Elder of the Order.
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<td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Though members of the Order are also members of the [[Hymn Of One]], they are two separate factions.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The Order performed [[Bree]]'s [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]] incorrectly, and she was not actually supposed to die.
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====The Shadows====
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Shadows]] and [[Watchers]] are against each other within the [[Hymn of One|HoO]]. <small>(i.e. [[LaRezisto]] vs. Watcher)</small>
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====The Watchers====
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*The [[Watchers]] are protecting [[TAAG|BDJ]], not trying to kidnap them.
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===Sarah===
*[[Sarah]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Sarah is not related to [[Taylor]] by blood.
*Sarah texted the [[Watchers]] in the Season 1 Finale.
*She is [[trait positive]] and [[Gross Guy]] is working with the person who [[Subjects Apprehended|kidnapped Bree, Daniel, and Jonas]].
*Sarah has more than a 'passing interest' in [[Emma]].
*Sarah loves [[Jonas]].
*Sarah and [[Daniel]] will get back together.
*Sarah will kill Carl.
*Sarah and Taylor's home town, Zavalla, Texas is, or was, a major Order stronghold.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Sarah loves Daniel.
*Sarah and Carl will get back together.
*Sarah will become brainwashed by the Order
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Sarah's emotional distress (at the beginning of Season 2) is because she is pregnant. <small>(This could be theoretically true, but the baby could not have been carried to term as Sarah never shows any signs of pregnancy, so it is most likely not''.)</small>
*She is pregnant, and the crash diet of [[Lullaby Project]] food will cause major problems. <small>(Speculation toward Sarah's pregnancy are from her time with Gross Guy; if she had gotten pregnant at the time, hiding her pregnancy would be very difficult several months afterward.)</small>
*Sarah is lying about running off with Carl.
*Sarah is pregnant as a result of "hooking up" with Carl in Mexico.
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===Spencer Gilman===
*Spencer is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Spencer will finish the task that Bree left for [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]]: save the other [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony girls]].
*Spencer and [[Taylor]] will eventually end up together.
*Spencer will appear in KateModern.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Spencer will no longer appear on [[Lonelygirl15]]. <small>(Tentative, since this can only be disproven.)</small>
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Spencer's role will become more significant in the second season. Since he was able to make the serum, he will have to see Daniel and Jonas again so they can make the Ceremony girls trait negative.
*Spencer will see [[KateModern]] and attempt to break back into the [[Wyman Foundation]] and steal [[Kate]]'s blood sample and save her from the ceremony.
*[[Spencer]] is [[Bree]]'s brother.
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===Taylor===
*[[Taylor]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Taylor is not biologically related to [[Sarah]].
*She will use her knowledge of computer hacking to help take down [[the Order]].
*She will become more active once her school year ends.
*She will have a significant role in Season 3.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*She is a [[Watcher]].
*Taylor will return to California to help [[Jonas]] and [[Daniel]] get Sarah back.
*Taylor is with the Order and trying to distract [[Spencer Gilman]]. <small>(Unlikely. She wasn't attempting to distract him during Season 1, and he's no longer around.)</small>
*Taylor is dead.
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===Virgil===
*[[Virgil]] is Emma's biological father.
*Virgil was the one who shot the shadow when BDJ were kidnapped in Las Vegas
*Virgil was the one who was watching over [[Daniel]] after he read the email left by [[Bree]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Virgil is not returning.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Virgil has killed [[Jonas]]. <small>(Jonas made a full recovery from [[KIDNAPPED!]].)</small>
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==Minor Characters==
===Alex===
*[[Alex|She]] is still with [[the Order]] and gave [[Daniel]] a fake blood sample.
*After helping the BDJ obtain the blood sample, she was imprisoned or executed for betraying the Order.
*Alex and [[Lucy]] are biological sisters.
*She will appear in the season 3 finale of lg15
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Will appear in the season 2 finale of lg15
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===Bree's Parents===
====Bree's Biological Parents====
*They are still in Siberia.
*They will appear in the third season of lg15.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*After Bree was taken from them, they began working for [[the Resistance]] <small>(Bree was sold, not stolen)</small>
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====Bree's Adoptive Parents====
'''Drew Avery'''
*[[Drew Avery|He]] was never part of [[the Order]].
*He was really working for [[the Resistance]].
*He is still alive.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*He died because he tried to make [[Bree]] trait negative (as did [[Isaac Gilman]]).
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'''Elizabeth Avery'''
*[[Bree's mother]] married [[Drew Avery]] as a command from [[The Order]].
*Elizabeth loved Bree and did not adopt her merely because she was [[trait positive]].
*Elizabeth did not want Bree to complete the ceremony- that's why she adopted her to prevent her from being used by [[Verdus Pharmaceuticals]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Elizabeth made up the story about [[Backseat Shocker|Emma's Ceremony]] to lure her out of hiding so she can conduct a rogue Ceremony herself.
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===Carl===
*He is a parallel character to [[Steve]].
*Carl is pretending to love Sarah as a plot to hold her hostage, and get Gina back into the Order's possession.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Carl never left [[the Order]]. <small>(Carl was never in the Order.)</small>
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===Gemma===
*[[Gemma]] was really not part of [[the Order]]. They found her and forced her to help them.
*She lied about living in London to protect herself from the Order.
*Everything she says in her blogs is true.
*Gemma is still alive.
*Gemma is [[Tachyon]], and pretended to expose herself as part of the Order so that the Order would not suspect her.
*Gemma is broadcasting herself, post-[[OpAphid]], through the YouTube account GemmaReturns.
*Gemma is [[trait positive]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Gemma is [[Charlie]]'s sister [[Rose (character)|Rose]]. That could be why she has a rose in some of her videos. <small>(Rose has a daughter and is Australian. She's also older than Charlie, unlike Gemma.)</small>
*Will appear in the 2 season finale
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===Isaac Gilman===
*He faked his [[The Mistress|death]] after hearing [[Drew Avery|Bree's dad]] was [[Bree's Dad Is Dead|dead]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*He is [[Dr. Griffin|the specialist]] who faked his death in [[KateModern]].
*He was [[Bree]]'s real father.
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===Jonas's Parents===
*The family Jonas visited in [[A Family Affair]] are not his real parents.
*Jonas's parents killed Elizabeth Avery when Elizabeth went after Emma for the Ceremony.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*They will be found by [[Alex]] and help [[the Resistance]]. <small>(They were not found by Alex and have not helped the resistance)</small>
*Jonas's mom is the nurse that helped perform [[Bree]]'s [[The Ceremony (ritual)|ceremony]]. <small>(This was Lucy.)</small>
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===Jules===
*[[Jules]] is dead.

===The Mistress===
*[[The Mistress]] is a member of [[the Resistance]].
*The Mistress knew [[Bree]].
*The Mistress is a member of [[the Order]] and killed [[Isaac Gilman]].
*[[Rebecca]] is the Mistress.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*The Mistress is the girl in [[Who's that girl?]]
*The Mistress is Bree's biological mother.
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===Nikki Bower===
*[[Nikki Bower|She]] is [[trait positive]].
* She will find [[purple monkey]] and the other stuffed animals.
*Nikki is working for the Order, helping to keep tabs on TAAG.
*Nikki is a Watcher.
*Nikki was captured by Salinas at the fundraiser

===The Party Guests===
*The party guests from the videos [[Uncle Dan]] and [[Uncle Dan (D-Bone Remix)]] were there to get information about [[TAAG|BDJ]].
*The "rock star" is the same musician [[Bad Decisions|Gemma dated]].
*Toby is a member of the [[Hymn of One]], just as [[Carl]] and [[Sonia]] are.
*The "rock star" was also a guest of [[Charlie]]'s birthday party.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Beth]] is the mole in [[Deep Throat]]
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Bree]]'s real parents were at the party.
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===Rebecca===
*Rebecca sings the [[Hymn of One]].
*Rebecca staged [[Uncle Dan|the party]] to get information on [[Bree]] for [[OpAphid]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Rebecca]] is the girl in the photograph with [[Lucy]] seen in the video [[Uncle Dan]]. <small>(It was Alex)</small>
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=KateModern=
==Notable Characters==
===Charlie===
*[[Charlie]]'s parents are members of [[the Order]].
*Charlie is [[Tariq]]'s ex-girlfriend.
*Charlie is Gemma's sister.
*Charlie is working for the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] or, possibly, the Order. This is the reason why she is trying to convince Lauren to not fight the Order.
*Charlie is a [[Watcher]].
*Charlie is being forced to help the Order. (ie. - if she helps them, they will not kill her.)
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Charlie was once pregnant. <small>(Charlie confirms that [[Kim]] is her daughter.)</small>
*Charlie will move in with [[Gavin]] after she got evicted.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Charlie's sister and niece are dead (possibly killed by the Order) and that's why she misses them so much. <small>(Charlie has gone back to Australia to see them)</small>
*Charlie had a falling out with her family and can't return home. <small>(Charlie ran away to London after having Kim)</small>
*Charlie is [[Gemma]]'s ex-flatmate <small>(Gemma's flat was actually a Southern Californian apartment, she likely never went to a university)</small>
*Charlie will come to the US to help with [[Steve]] and possibly the [[TAAG]].
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===Dudley===
*[[Dudley]] and [[Spencer]] are half brothers.
*[[The Mistress]] is his mother.
*[[Dudley]] is alive. [[Steve]] took his pulse very quickly and may not have taken it properly. Shortly after the fall Dudley was picked up by a mysterious black ambulance. Perhaps they were able to keep him alive.
*[[Dudley]] (if alive) was helping Kate find the girls on the list and not even [[Patricia]] knew about it.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Dudley]] (if alive) killed Kate.
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===Gavin===
*[[Gavin]] is a member of [[the Order]].
*Gavin is a member of [[the Resistance]].
*Gavin had a past involvement with [[Kate]], which has yet to be revealed.
*Gavin has not blogged a lot because he's been "on assignment" against the Order.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Gavin and Tariq are good friends, but he barely knows Kate.
*Gavin will see the [[lonelygirl15|lg15]] videos and ask Jonas for a loan.
*Gavin kidnapped Kate. <small>([[Steve]] kidnapped Kate in [[Coming Home for Xmas]])</small>
*Gavin and [[Tariq]] will be arrested for making the spy software. <small>(After being arrested on another charge, no mention of the software was brought by the authorities.)</small>
*Gavin Killed Kate
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===Julia===
*[[Julia]] is in [[The Order]].
*Julia will find out that she is Trait Positive.
*Julia is trait positive which is why [[Rupert]] is interested in her.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Julia is a parallel character to [[Mallory]].
*Julia will die at her Eternal Unity Bond ceremony.
*Julia is pregnant. <small>(Rupert dispelled this rumor in the Precious Blood chat.)</small>
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===Kate (Genevieve)===
*[[Kate]] lied about her name to protect herself from someone, possibly [[the Order]]. The order is the connection to lg15.
*Kate is the New Girl that [[Alex]] mentioned.
*The people that wiped [[Jonas's parents]]' memories did the same to Kate.
*She is a compulsive/knowing liar and lied about making up the alias Kate.
*Michelle Clore is Kate's biological sister or mother.
*Kate killed [[Dr. Griffin]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Kate is a parallel character to Bree.
*Reappears with the LIST <small>(Sort of. She reappears shortly before the list is found again, and then reappears again later with it in tow.)</small>
*Kate is the girl that was killed shortly before the start of [[KateModern]] Season Two. <small>(There is room for this to be disproven, but it is unlikely.)</small>
*Kate was being primed for [[the Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]] by [[Michelle Clore]].
</td>
<td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Kate may be [[Bree]]'s biological sister.<small>(Bree only had one sister, [[Gina]].)</small>
*Kate really is going to America to study art with Michelle Clore.
*Kate and Bree are twins. <small>(Kate was 23 while, at the time of Bree's death, Bree was only 17)</small>
*Before becoming Kate, she stayed in a mental institution.
*Kate is dead and her spirit is haunting Gavin. <small>(Appears in [[Coming Home for Xmas]].)</small>
*Kate will die, Bree style, in the KM season finale. <small>(She didn't even appear in it...)</small>
*Kate is a werewolf and had transformed on the night of August 2nd to [[I can't remember anything!|August 3rd]]: this explains her memory loss. <small>([[Steve]] explains that Kate had her memory of her trip to Dr. Griffin erased by the Order.)</small>
*Kate will join the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] and [[Gavin]], [[Tariq]], and [[Charlie]] will try to save her.
*Kate will appear in the season finale of lonelygirl15.
*Kate faked her death to have more freedom to find the [[trait positive]] girls on the List.
*Kate was killed, but not by the Order.
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===Lauren===
*[[Lauren]]'s sister is [[Kate]].
*[[Spencer]] is supplying the medicine to stabilize Lauren's blood.
*Lauren will become [[Lee]]'s girlfriend.
*Lauren is the one who [[I like Pigeons!|lent her iPod to Kate]].
*Lauren killed Michelle Clore.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Lauren will come to the US to find [[Steve]] and possibly help the [[TAAG]].
</td><tr></table>

===Lee===
*[[Lee]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Lee will be killed by the Order.
*Lee knows where [[Kate]] (Genevieve) was during her time missing in Season One.
*Lee is a full-fledged or apprentice Watcher, and his assignment is to keep an eye on Julia and Charlie. Note that he always says he's just on "work experience".
*Lee will become Lauren's boyfriend.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Lee will move in with Charlie.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Lee is a parallel character to [[Spencer Gilman]].
*Lee will sell the spy software to the Order. <small>(He intended to return the software at the end of the puzzles but the Order stole it)</small>
*Lee is trying to lead [[Tariq]], [[Gavin]], and [[Charlie]] to Kate (Genevieve).
*Lee is dead. <small>(He reappeared in [[Internet Celebrity Revealed]])</small>
*Lee killed Kate.
*Lee will recover the list.
</td><tr></table>

===Michelle Clore===
*[[Michelle Clore|She]] is the woman from [[Awful Dream]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Michelle Clore was preparing [[Kate]] for the [[The Ceremony (ritual)|Ceremony]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Her touch "burned" Kate somehow. <small>(Kate saw "flashes of dreams when she was touched.")</small>
*Michelle Clore is the [[Rogue Elder]].
*Going to be killed in the [[KateModern|KM]] season finale. <small>(Michelle was not killed in the Season Finale of Season 1.)</small>
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===Steve===
*[[Steve]] is a member of [[the Order]].
*Steve is a Watcher.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*He will use his inside knowledge to help [[Kate]] and her friends.
*Steve didn't kill Kate at the end season 1.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Steve killed [[Kate]]
*Steve is helping Kate hide, so she can help the girls on the list.
*Steve only pretended to leave the HoO.
</td><tr></table>

===Tariq===
*[[Tariq]] is a parallel character to [[Daniel]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Tariq's date will have some connection to [[Hymn of One|HoO]]/[[The Order]].
*Tariq will be arrested for making the spy software.
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Tariq killed [[Kate]].
*Tariq is not really in India, he is helping Kate find the girls from the List.
*Tariq will appear at Julia's wedding.
</td><tr></table>

===Terrence===

<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*[[Terrence]] is in [[the Order]]. <small>(former member, as of [[Precious Blood]].)</small>
*He is a [[Shadow]]. <small>(Apprentice Shadow, really.)</small>
*He killed [[Kate]].
*Terrence is not the same person as [[The FTO|X]].
</td><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*Terrence was killed following the events in [[Resolution]].
*"Terry" is pretending to be a member of the [[Hymn of One|HoO]] to get [[Project Orwell|his software]] back.
*Terrence killed [[Michelle Clore]] <small>([[Jeffrey]] did)</small>
*Terrence is the person watching Lauren
</td><tr></table>

===Patricia===
*Patricia is dead.
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Patricia]] killed [[Kate]]. <small>([[Terrence]] did)</small>
</td></tr></table>

===Dr. William Griffin===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*He is the [[Rogue Elder]] [[LaRezisto]] works for.
</td><tr></table>

==Minor Characters==
===Aunt Joan===
*[[Joan|Aunt Joan]] is related to [[Jonas]].
*Aunt Joan is the girl from the [[1943 abduction]].

===Kim===
*[[Kim]] is [[trait positive]].
*[[Charlie]] hid Kim with [[Rose]] to protect her from [[the Order]], and [[The Ceremony (ritual)|the Ceremony]].
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Proven'''
*Kim is Charlie's daughter.
</td><tr></table>

===Rose===
<table><tr valign="top"><td width="50%">'''Disproven'''
*[[Rose (character)|Rose]] is [[Gemma]].
</td><tr></table>

===Kyle===
*[[Kyle]] is a plant by [[the Order]].
*Kyle is related to [[Rupert Van Helden]].

===Rupert Van Helden===
*[[Rupert Van Helden]] is related to [[Kyle]].
*Rupert is an [[Elder]].
*Rupert only wants to be with [[Julia]] because she is [[trait positive]].
*Rupert is really [[Lord Carruthers]].
*[[Rupert]] will quit [[the hymn of one]]
*Rupert will have an affair with [[Alice]], Sophie's roommate

===Sophie===
*[[Sophie]] is working with [[Nikki Bower]].
*Sophie will have a major role in the second season.
*Sophie will find out that she is [[trait positive]].

=See Also=
[[Unanswered Questions]]
[[Category:Theories and speculation]]

Hangman's Noose

2008-06-16T21:23:05Z

67.10.187.154:

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==Transcript==
'''Daniel:''' It's been a really tough week for everybody. We all miss our friend. [[Jonas]] can't even bring himself to sit in front of a camera. You know what? I don't really blame him. But at least we have [[Jennie]] who took matters into her own hands, to help us get back at that murderous [[four-letter words|son of a bitch]]. You know, I want to thank [[Evergreen]] for helping us figure out [[Undercover Lovers|those documents]] and for alerting the authorities. Most of you probably didn't see this, because it ran on the local news, but I recorded it for you. Oh, and you might recognize somebody from our past.

(''scene cuts to news story. "Breaking News," "8," and "Beth Turner" are shown.'')

'''Beth:''' We're standing in front of the home (''turns to look at home and back at camera'') of [[General LA area|Los Angeles]] City Councilman, [[Salinas|Edward Salinas]]. Salinas rose to prominence during his recent run for United States Congress. (''looks down, as if reading'') His populist agenda was invigorating the community and seemed a lock to win the election. However, his campaign was derailed yesterday when a video (''clips from [[Evergreen Saves the Day]]'') appeared on the internet, revealing that Salinas had been embezzling money from his own campaign.

'''Beth:''' FBI and local authorities arrived here this morning to bring Salinas in for questioning. When they entered the home, they found Salinas' body (''turns to garage and back'') in the garage, dead as a result of an apparent suicide. Police are looking for this man, (''image of Carl, captioned "Carl Adams"'') [[Carl|Carl Adams]], as a person of interest in this case. Adams is the president of [[Sacred Spirit]] and believed to be deeply involved in the campaign scandal.

'''Beth:''' (''front door of house opens and [[Lucy]] walks away'') This is a tragic end to a very promising political career. Many believed Salinas would rise to prominence in the party, and ultimately ascend to higher office. Salinas is survived by his wife and two children. This is Beth Turner with Channel 8 News.

(''cuts back to Daniel'')

'''Daniel:''' Looks like Beth got a promotion. Oh, and yeah, I recognize that other person from the video too. I have my doubts about that whole suicide thing. But, hey, in the end, Salinas got what he deserved. I guess [[the Order]] doesn't really like to take chances. Oh, and one more thing. Jonas and I picked up a little something to celebrate. Check it out.

(''shows Carl unconscious, tied to a chair with his mouth duct-taped'')

==Notes==
*The title "Hangman's Noose" can sometimes mean "torturer."

Doing It Myself

2008-06-11T08:25:00Z

67.10.187.154: changed Our into Out... like its supposed to be...

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==Transcript==
(''Emma is sitting in front of a Fight The Order poster'')

'''Emma:''' Four hours. That's all the time we have before Carl dies.

'''Sarah:''' (''In the background'') We should be out there trying to find him right now...

'''Daniel:''' (''In the background'') Oh, well, that's what you want to do?

'''Sarah:''' (''In the background'') Yeah, that is what I want to do because it's our responsibility.

'''Emma:''' We've spend too much time arguing about who stays and who goes or if we even go at all. You know, it's just... it's time to make a decision and, um, I think I have an idea. I just hope they'll listen.

(''Cut to the group talking''.)

'''Jonas:''' Well, then, come up with something.

'''Daniel:''' Come on, man. It could be a set up. (''To Sarah'') Look, Carl won't die.

'''Sarah:''' You want to take that chance that Salinas is joking around?

'''Jonas:''' Okay well then let's go for it. We've already wasted a whole day sitting around here over thinking this thing. You know, what are we waiting for?

'''Jennie:''' We don't have a plan!

'''Sarah:''' We know enough! Plan or no plan, I'm not gonna let Carl die!

'''Gina:''' Look, Jennie's right Sarah. Carl's definitely the bait for one of us.

'''Sarah:''' So, what? We let Salinas murder him in order to save ourselves?

'''Gina:''' That's, that's not what I mean.

'''Jonas:''' Sarah, nobody's saying that.

'''Sarah:''' No. What you're saying is anything for Bree and nothing for Carl. (''Sarah storms off'')

'''Daniel:''' (''Following Sarah'') Sarah!

(''Camera pans over the group on the couches and stops at Sarah and Daniel talking at the table'')

'''Sarah:''' (''Whispering'') I really have it. I need you... I want you to see something.

'''Daniel:''' Fine. (''Turns to group'') Look, despite the fact that none of us really like [[Carl|the dork king]], we can't just sit here and let him die. I don't want that responsibility. I don't think you do either, man. (''Points to the group'')

'''Sarah:''' You know what? I'm going, I'm going.

'''Daniel:''' Well, I'm going too.

'''Jonas:''' You know, you guys are out of your minds. That's not even...

'''Emma:''' Alright, everybody just wait! I have an idea.

'''Jonas:''' You!?

'''Emma:''' Yes.

'''Jonas:''' No, no! (''Jumps up'')

'''Emma:''' What?

'''Jonas:''' Emma, no, no way!

'''Emma:''' Think about it. Salinas won't hurt me.

'''Jonas:''' But how do you know that?

'''Emma:''' Because...

'''Jonas:''' You don't know that.

'''Emma:''' ...What he wants is one of you. I'm [[trait positive]], remember? (''Turns camera to self'') Look, The Order would butcher him for killing trait positive. As far as Salinas goes, I'm untouchable. (''Turns camera to Sarah'')

'''Sarah:''' Are we doing this?

'''Emma:''' (''Turns camera back to self'') No. Um, I'm gonna do this. I said I wanted to help and now I can. We all know that Salinas can't kill me. It would be suicide. (''Turns camera to Jonas'') And you know it too.

(''Cut to Jonas driving the truck'')

'''Jonas:''' This is it. Sarah said Carl is being held at [[Sacred Spirit]] somewhere, so... Phew. Here we are. (''Emma sighs'') You know what, listen, Emma...

'''Emma:''' I can do this.

'''Jonas:''' No.

'''Emma:''' Yes.

'''Jonas:''' You know what, listen. I...

'''Emma:''' Trust me!

'''Jonas:''' Hold on a second. I've changed my mind. I've changed my mind.

'''Emma:''' What!?

'''Jonas:''' This is a bad idea! This is a really bad idea. Okay, what if this is all about capturing you for the [[ceremony]]? You know, [[Dr. Hart]] could have compromised your blood. And maybe this is just about Salinas trying to ascend.

'''Emma:''' It's a risk no matter what we do! Out of the few options that we have, sending me in there buys us the most time.

'''Jonas:''' (''Sighs'') Alright, okay. I mean, just please, promise me that if you see anything suspicious you run. Okay? Don't worry about Carl. Just run. Just get out of there.

'''Emma:''' Yes.

'''Jonas:''' You promise?

'''Emma:''' Yes, I promise!

'''Jonas:''' Alright. If you're not back in five minutes, I'm coming after you. Alright? And I'm not arguing about that. Okay?

'''Emma:''' Okay.

(''Cut to Emma in Sacred Spirit snooping around'')

'''Emma:''' (''Whispering to herself'') Go. Alright. (''Runs towards a door'') Here we go. (''Emma opens the door and runs down a hallway. She hide behind what looks like a cubicle''.) Okay. Sarah's diagram should lead me directly to the room that Carl's in. (''Emma turns the camera to her hand where a diagram has been drawn. She turns the camera to a long hallway. She runs down the hallway to a door and stops''.) This is it. This is it. (''Emma pulls on the handle to open the door''.) It's not even locked! Salinas wanted us to find him. (''Emma pushes the door open to find Carl in a chair with the bomb attached to his chest. It is ticking. His mouth is covered with tape and he is trying to speak to Emma through it''.) Okay, um, okay... (''Emma shows that the bomb reads one minute and 51 seconds''.) I'm gonna get your out of here. (''Carl mumbles through the tape''.) What? (''Emma walks over to the video camera that has been set up to film Carl''.) It's a live feed. Salinas is watching. Psycho. (''Emma looks around the room'') Okay. Oh God! Okay. (''Emma sets the camera up to film Carl and begins to help him. She seems to be panicking''. She rips the tape off of Carl's mouth''.)

'''Carl:''' Oh, God. Come on. Get me out of here.

(''Cut to the feed through Salinas' camera. The bomb is now counting down from 1 minute and 18 seconds''.)

'''Carl:''' W-what are you doing!?

'''Emma:''' It's running tape but it's also a live feed.

'''Carl:''' Come on, who cares?

'''Emma:''' (''Into Salinas' camera'') You will not ascend. You're gonna... you're gonna leave my friends alone and you're gonna let me walk right out of here. With Carl.

(''Emma moves away from the camera, which is still filming Carl. The bomb is now counting down from 1 minute and 2 seconds''.)

'''Carl:''' (''Pleading'') Come on! Come on!

'''Emma:''' Do it. Do it, I dare you. If you kill a trait positive girl, you know that the Order will be right all over you. Do it.

(''A beep is heard in the background. Emma moves away and we see that Carl's bomb has stopped ticking with 58 seconds left''.)

'''Emma:''' That's what I thought. (''Turns to Carl. Whispering to herself''.) That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

'''Carl:''' Get me out of here.

'''Emma:''' Okay.

'''Carl:''' Come on. Pull on this wire. Ahh!

'''Emma:''' Okay, alright. God. Be careful. Okay?

'''Carl:''' Get this thing off me. Get it off me!

(''Cut back to Emma's camera. Emma reaches for it and is filming her carrying Carl out of the building. Carl is grimacing''.)

'''Emma:''' Okay. Got it?

'''Carl:''' Yeah.

(''Emma opens the door and her and Carl walk through it. Carl seems to be in a lot of pain and is limping''.)

'''Emma:''' A few more steps.

'''Carl:''' Okay.

'''Emma:''' Oh God.

(''Emma turns the camera to the hallway in front of her. Salinas and one of his men are walking towards them''.)

'''Salinas:''' Excellent work, Emma. As far as consolation prizes go, you'll do just fine.

'''Emma:''' Run, Carl! Go! Run!

(''Emma and Carl run toward the elevator into their right. The shadow is seen at the doors as they close''.)

'''Emma:''' Are you okay?

'''Carl:''' Yeah, I'm okay.

'''Emma:''' Okay.

'''Carl:''' What's that?

'''Emma:''' (''Pulls a tape out of her pocket'') Victory souvenir.

==Notes==
* Daniel seems to have [[cap]] fever in this video.