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Talk:Main Page/redesign

2008-01-24T09:03:23Z

24.232.105.198: New section: Yuuu-huuu! :)

== Redesign discussion ==

This page had gotten a bit confusing, so I archived the old content at [[Talk:Main Page/redesign/archive of dicussion]]. I think the redesign is almost ready, but I read through the discussions and we have a few loose ends to tie up.
# Any last suggestions for design, color scheme or content on this main page?
# What should be included in the video column on the right? OpAphid? NBR? Immant? PaulMark?
# Do we need any tweaks to the column on the left, or do we need to start working on some of the pages that the column on the left links to?
# What exactly is the purpose of the Featured Article? What sort of articles do we pick and how?
I think once we've answered these questions, we're ready to take it live. We'll want to check in with TWJaniak of course. I'd like to put it up January 3rd.
For now, I'd like to jump in on #4, as I think it's an important part of our page. I think the featured article should rotate about once a week. I think that, similar to other wikis, we should use the spot to feature interesting, well-done articles that people might not find otherwise. Some examples that I think could work -- meta-articles about the series like [[Down The Rabbit Hole: The Hunt For Bree|Down The Rabbit Hole]] that I worked on, the [[LG15 Soundtrack]], really cool fan videos like [[Deemontreal]], an interesting new page like [[Everything You Need To Play OpAphid]] when it was first created, or many of the theory pages like [[Water Theme]]. Other candidates could be old standbys that get a good reworking -- and of course there will be new pages that haven't been created yet. The other goal of a featured article section is to encourage people to write creative articles knowing that hard work will be prominently showcased.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 12:07, 29 December 2006 (CST)

:I'm glad you brought these things up. Here's what I'm thinking.
:#I think we need to play with the next color in the blue header bar. It seems a little too dark to read and it's hard to tell that there's links up there. Other than that, ''I'' think it looks great.
:#I'm not familiar with Immant or Paul Mark, but I do follow NBR and I'm usually just as excited to see a Nikki video as I am to see an official video. For that reason, I'd like to include the more prominant spinoffs such as Nikki Bower, but we would need to determine exactly which spinoffs we need to include and perhaps even make a policy page on it. Of course, I think we should include OpAphid even though not everyone (including myself) follows it. It ''is'' an official ARG, afterall.
:#As for the left column, what I wrote after the dashes needs to be rewritten or tweaked. And the bulleted items might do better in a different order, but I'll leave that up to you guys.
:#Personally, I'm thinking that rotating the featured article once a week is just right. Not too often, but not to far apart, either. I think we need to develop a page which will list all the previous featured articles, and maybe even a small template to include on the article's page (something like a small box at the bottom of the article that says "This article was featured during the week of January 7th, 2007."). We also need a place for editors to suggest articles. This would be a great way to get the entire core editing community to focus on several articles to get them to a "featured article standard" or something. As for what to include, I think we should definietly NOT include videos, characters, or locations. Other than that, I think JayHenry's suggestions about what to include were great.
:--[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 14:27, 29 December 2006 (CST)

::Andy, I think I fixed what you had in mind about the links in the header bar. Let me know if this is what you meant.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 17:26, 29 December 2006 (CST)
::I also edited back in the "add new video" button, which I think is a useful feature. Lemme know if anyone agrees. Not sure exactly where to put the thing, and I'm heading off for the weekend. Can fix or move it early next week.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 17:57, 29 December 2006 (CST)

:::Both the header and the "add new video" link looks great, in my opinion. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:12, 29 December 2006 (CST)

::::omg, I am in the presence of geniouses!!! Hehehe, lately I haven't been around as much as I would like to be, but I think the new page looks great! I really like JayHenry's suggestions for Featured articles (might I also suggest [[Tracking device]]?). The work on vid Template and such is fantastic. I won't be around much for a few more days still, but I hope I'll have a chance to check in every now and then. In the meantime, I just wanted to express my appreciation for the talented team of people that has put this together =) Happy (early) New Year!
::::[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:56, 29 December 2006 (CST)
::::PS Don't feel bad deleting my comment if the page gets cluttered again; no biggie!

In response to Brucker on the archived page, i think that the FA should be one that is substantially better than the others. Cassieiswatching is a pretty good one, as is the page the producers commited. I think they are at least, but i feel that they should be articles that are superior in content and expression of that content. Maybe its not what everyone else likes? Ideas? --[[User:Demosthenesdown|Demosthenesdown]] 00:11, 31 December 2006 (CST)

:Demosthenes, I think we all agree with you. We all want good featured articles. On the old page I mentioned that I only picked Breebrows as a joke while I worked on the layout. As for [[The Story So Far...]] it's already been featured. And the [[Cassieiswatching]] page isn't really good -- it's just long. And besides, Cassie has been over for three months now. Did you read the pages that have been suggested? They're all interesting and well-organized pages. I think they fit what you are asking me for.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:51, 31 December 2006 (CST)

::maybe i should read what other people have to say before i go ahead and keep asking the same questions. i realized it was a joke, i was just using it as an example. thanks so much. --[[User:Demosthenesdown|Demosthenesdown]] 16:12, 1 January 2007 (CST)

This is quite an impressive design. The size seems perfect for a main page; it is uncluttered and has enough info to help a user easily navigate the lgpedia. It still is a wiki-format, yet it has its own distinct lg15 style. I wish I could contribute ideas to this page, but I don't have any. I hope folks put up this new design soon. [[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 13:47, 31 December 2006 (CST)

== Buttons ==

On the archived talk page we had talked about having some sort of icon for chats, polls, etc. I was thinking it might be nice to have an icon for each blogger too. For example, when a video is posted by Daniel a small "DB" could be used to indent the video. We could use LG, DB, Jtko, G19 (if she's still alive), Op, Tac, and Bro as the initials? I'll try adding the icons tonight to see if it looks good.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:32, 2 January 2007 (CST)

:Hey, that's a good idea! The icons should have different colors, though (lol - sorry, I think about things like this). Pink for Bree, Blue for Daniel, Orange for Jonas, Purple for Gemma, etc. Get what I'm saying? Just to further mark the difference between the characters. Plus, if we used that on the main page we could removed the "Posted by Jonas" that we have on the newest video, which I think looks goofy considering we don't have that for the other videos. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 19:44, 2 January 2007 (CST)

::Okay, i started to implement it. But it's getting late here. Need my bed.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 01:11, 3 January 2007 (CST)

== Final steps (featured article) ==

I say that as soon as we have a featured article and TWJaniak has signed off, we can take this live. We can continue to tweak, if necessary, on the main page, but I think it's been long enough. Does anyone have any strong preferences for the first featured article? I think the newly redesigned [[AphidPedia]] might also make for a good feature to get us started.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:16, 3 January 2007 (CST)

:That would be a good article, but I think we need to have a queue of two or three. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 14:46, 3 January 2007 (CST)

::Previously I'd suggested [[Down The Rabbit Hole: The Hunt For Bree|Down The Rabbit Hole]] for historical interest. [[LG15 Soundtrack]] for its usefulness. [[Deemontreal]] for its greatness. A lot of the [[:category:theories and speculation]] pages are really interesting. Hopefully we'll eventually get some of the religion pages in shape to be featured. That's enough to get us into February. I'm sure more ideas will come up.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:51, 3 January 2007 (CST)

== New Boxes Around Videos ==

I've noticed the newly added dashed boxes around the videos under the "Latest Developments" area. However, these aren't going to work. On my computer (at least), the boxes refuse to take up more than one line. So instead of wrapping and going to the next line, it instead forces the page to become much, much wider. For instance, in order to read the entire sentence, I have to scroll my browser to the right. If you don't understand what I'm talking about (if it shows up differently on your computer) - I can screenshot it for you. Regardless, I think we need to remove these boxes. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 14:26, 3 January 2007 (CST)

:LOL, that's not a design choice, that's just a malfunctioning template I haven't fixed yet. Sorry.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:35, 3 January 2007 (CST)
::Dude, you have to take the spaces out '''''completely'''''! --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 14:48, 3 January 2007 (CST)

::Alright, I fixed it. For some reason the <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tag was screwing it up. I'll just put the usage note on the talk page.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:50, 3 January 2007 (CST)

:::Wow, thanks Brucker. Which spaces were causing the problems?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:52, 3 January 2007 (CST)
::::You just have to be careful with linebreaks ''before'' the <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tag. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 14:52, 3 January 2007 (CST)
:::::Geez, good catch. I need to be more careful with these templates! I would have cried if you hadn't saved that.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:56, 3 January 2007 (CST)
::::::Ugh, I've had an awful time with templates. You may have noticed yesterday I was trying to change the main video template and eventually just gave up. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:03, 3 January 2007 (CST)

== last minute objections? ==

Barring any objections I think this redesign has carried on long enough -- a little over three weeks. I'll start transferring this over to the Main Page in the next couple hours if nobody offers a reason otherwise. I checked with [[User:Twjaniak|TWJaniak]] via e-mail and he said he likes what we've come up with. [[Dearly Beloved]], if anyone has any reason this page should not become the Main Page, speak now or forever hold your peace.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:30, 4 January 2007 (CST)
:Here's a later-than last minute objection: Should we have some sort of visual cue to separate the OpAphid series videos from the LG15s?--[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 18:33, 4 January 2007 (CST)
::It's a good idea. Other than the ability to display different initials, the templates don't make any sort of visual distinction. Do you have any ideas how to make them look different?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:58, 4 January 2007 (CST)
:::I don't know how to do it, but this is a cool idea if someone else knows: You know how [ Op Aphid ] puts the name in brackets like that? What if we could put OpAphid videos in brackets? I think I know how it could be done in html, but not wiki markup. I'll look into it and experiment. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 10:24, 5 January 2007 (CST)
:::There, that gives at least an idea as to what I'm talking about. It needs some tweaking, but you get the idea. Most likely, there needs to be a template called something like "OpVid" that incorporates the bracket style. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 10:55, 5 January 2007 (CST)
:::I've been tweaking Template:OpVid quite a bit, and can't quite get it exactly the way I want, but I think this might do. I took out the "description", as many OpAphid videos have really long descriptions. Incorporate on the main page, reject, or tweak as you see fit, I'm going home. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 19:49, 5 January 2007 (CST)

== Yuuu-huuu! :) ==

Everything will be ok, no matter what!
God bless this world!

Hiding In The Bathroom

2007-05-07T18:26:51Z

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| number = 0114
| image = Bathroom.jpg
| caption = She's not okay.
| blogger = Bree
| date = January 13th, 2007
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| forumid = 5094
| length = 2:03
| description = It's almost impossible to find any privacy around here!
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|bathroom|shower|blowdry|hide|jonas|jonastko|sad|dad|order|secrets}}


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Amanda Goodfried
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett
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| Previous = Foosball
| Next = Bree And I Hooked Up
| PreviousB = My Dad Said...
| NextB = Daniel’s A Liar
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'''Hiding In The Bathroom''' is the one hundred fourteenth video in the Lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]]. [[Bree]] complains about the boys being insensitive to her needs, and reveals more about what her dad told her.

== Transcript ==
'''Bree:''' If I had any place else to go right now... I wouldn't be here. Really, I don't even know why I'm doing this. I don't have anything to say. It's like I'm supposed to constantly reassure them that I'm dealing with things because my situation makes them uncomfortable. All that Daniel and Jonas want to talk about, and they can't believe that I don't. [sic] I sort of reached a breaking point earlier this week, and I thought that they might give me some space, but... not so much. The bathroom is pretty much the only place I can get some privacy, and that's only if the water is running or I'm drying my hair. Otherwise, they're knocking on the door, asking if I'm okay, every two seconds. I'm not okay. This morning he said to me that we're both trying to hurt each other by saying things we don't mean. Daniel really thinks he can dictate how I feel, even retroactively, which is... odd.

If I had the option of not seeing my father killed right in front of me, I'd have taken it. My dad, he told me a lot about the Order, and not a single thing was positive. My dad told me the Order takes these girls who show potential, at birth, and place them in controlled homes. [sic] Apparently, there are thousands of them, but once they hit puberty only a fraction of a percentile develop the characteristics needed for the ceremony. My mom was higher up in the Order. My dad told me that there are different levels and people on the lower levels know very little. My dad is gone, and I don't want to have anything to do with my mom. The more it sinks in, the more I realize that... I don't have anyone, and... I'm completely alone.

==Notes==
* In her previous video [[My Dad Said...]], Bree mentioned that she wouldn't be speaking to her [[Bree's parents#Mother|mother]] anytime soon. This video clarifies that her mother is still alive and has a high rank in [[the Order]]. The negative things [[Bree's parents#Father|Bree's father]] told her about the Order in his last hours probably included mention of wrongdoings by her mother, who knew more about the Order than her husband, and was probably withholding information from both of them.
* While it's clear that Bree was one of the girls that the Order placed in a "controlled home," that phrase strongly evokes the plot of the fan-created series, [[itscassie]]. However, in Cassie's case, she could not have been taken at birth, as she was a classmate of Bree's and Daniel's.

In The Park

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|blogger = Bree
|name = [[In The Park]]
|image = In the Park.jpeg
|caption = Is your dad making you take that?
|number = 0034
|date = September 13th, 2006
|url = [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=59 lonelygirl15.com]
| forumid = 377
|length = 1:36
|description = Daniel and I went to the park...
|song = All I Want to Do by [[Jude]]
|tags = [[LG15]] [[lonelygirl15]] [[daniel]] [[danielbeast]] [[park]] [[bowling]] [[trees]] [[dark]] [[fun]] [[aye-aye]]


| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried
| producers = Miles Beckett
| directors = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders
| camera = Miles Beckett
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Amanda Goodfried
| editor = Miles Beckett


| cast =
{{VidChar|Bree|Jessica Lee Rose}}
{{VidChar|Daniel|Yousef Abu-Taleb}}
|Previous = House Arrest
|Next = What's A Date?
}}
'''In The Park''' is the thirty-fourth video in the Lonelygirl15 [[List of Lonelygirl15 videos|video series]].

==Transcript==
(''Daniel is standing in front of a tree, in a park, at night.'')

'''Daniel:''' (''to camera'') So, I'm supposed to meet Bree on the swing set right over there. We're going bowling. She's late. I saw the whole, uh, lemons thing, and, uh, wow... So her dad banned me from the house...permanently. That's fine, whatever, I don't care.

(''Daniel is filming Bree from behind some cars. She is standing next to a water fountain. As Daniel is talking she reaches down and digs around in her backpack.'')

There she is. She made me wait, so I'm gonna make her wait. Okay, what's she doing? It's just about 10 o'clock right now and she usually...

(''Bree pulls out a sweatshirt instead of whatever Daniel was expecting her to pull out.'')

Oh wait, okay, never mind, forget it.

(''Daniel films some random shots of the park, he eventually cuts to Bree at the top of a slide.'')

We should go.

'''Bree:''' Where are we going?

'''Daniel:''' Bowling.

(''Bree slides down'')

'''Bree:''' Why don't we just stay here?

'''Daniel:''' [[Paul]] and [[Andrea]] are waiting for us.

'''Bree:''' Well...how about they come here? ...slides and swings and sand and a jungle gym. Please?

(''Cut to Bree spinning around with her bag. She stops spinning to get into Daniel's car.'')

'''Bree:''' I feel dizzy.

(''Bree opens the door to Daniel's car, but before entering, she kneels and starts rummaging through her bag.'')

'''Daniel:''' What are you looking for?

'''Bree:''' Daniel... do you have to film everything?

(''She pulls out some pills wrapped in a ziplock bag.'')

'''Daniel:''' What is that? Is your dad making you take that?

(''Bree grumbles, pops some pills and washes them down with water.'')

'''Daniel:''' Iron pills.

'''Bree:''' Yes. Can we go now?

==Notes==
*This was the first episode to air after the true identities of the actors were made public.
*The same park can be seen in videos posted by [[OpAphid]], [[Tachyon]], and [[Cassieiswatching]].
*Video quality on Revver is much less so than on YouTube.