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		<id>http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:We_Found_Julia!!!&amp;diff=41701</id>
		<title>Talk:We Found Julia!!!</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-05T12:02:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;211.28.235.37: /* Jules or Julia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;is there a page that says all the episodes that have helicopters? if so, this should be added to the list, cause it seems like episodes with helicopters have to do with the Order.&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[Helicopter]] attempts to do that, although I think it&#039;s been slacked off on a bit lately.  And help you can give to the cleanup and updating of that page is appriciated :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:48, 5 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jules or Julia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be some disagreement whether we should use Jules or Julia in the transcript, titles, notes, etc.  We Have been using Jules up until now, and I htik that it&#039;s the better way to go. does anyone have any good reason we should use Julia instead? -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:26, 5 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think if we state that it&#039;s interchangable, either is OK, just like Daniel sometimes goes as &amp;quot;Beast&amp;quot;. [[User:TokyoMike|JapanMIke]] 02:02, 5 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Within the dialog that&#039;s true, but you never see Daniel referred to as &amp;quot;Beast&amp;quot; the the titles.  I think we need to be consistent with what the LGPedia name for the character is.-[[User:Misty|misty]] 02:09, 5 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d say use Julia, since that&#039;s her real name as Jules is a nickname....&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:No Trespassing</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-03T12:01:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;211.28.235.37: /* Sarah or Taylor at the end of the vid */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 06:49, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==4:51 vs. 2:23==&lt;br /&gt;
I had seen the video at it&#039;s full duration of 4:51 and some people in the forum feel cheated because the current one is now 2:23. I&#039;d just like to point out that the original did kind of drag a little bit, so you didn&#039;t miss much. I don&#039;t have any proof of this, but I&#039;d just thought I&#039;d post it. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:30, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wow, I believe you saw the longer one but that&#039;s kind of odd that that happened. Maybe the Creators had two versions saved and accidentally uploaded the wrong one and had to change it really quick. Well, whatever happened, this is what we have now. Do you remember anything else that was added in the longer version that wasn&#039;t in this one? (Sorry, I&#039;m sure a lot of people will ask you that.)--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:35, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Surprisingly, I remembered a lot. Okay, so in the original there was something in the beginning with Sarah teasing Daniel. Daniel also had said that he would marry Taylor in about 18 yrs (or 15... I can&#039;t remember) and they both laughed. There was a lot more skateboarding stuff with Jonas and Bree. There was this whole other point with the guys on the tennis court talking about how in Texas it&#039;s legal to shoot Trespassers. The guys also had explained that the girls were going to distract the dog. There was a longer part about who was going to crawl through the window (as well as different forms of choosing). Sarah said (when running) &amp;quot;I don&#039;t want to get shot&amp;quot;. The whole shaky camera, surveying the perimeter part was a little longer. The beginning of the video I saw basically, from my POV, showed Daniel being very peeved with Sarah&#039;s jokes. Daniel emphasized more that BDJ were all &amp;quot;just friends&amp;quot;. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:44, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Sweet, thanks. I wonder if the Creators could be convinced to change it back to the longer version now that people know that it exists. Hmmm, maybe not...--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 00:53, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Haha, who knows. I PM&#039;d them about it. But, I must admit, I like the compressed version better but wish that they kept more of the skateboarding scenes. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:55, 3 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexual tension==&lt;br /&gt;
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i almost wish there was a page dedicated to tracking the sexual tension build between characters.  does anybody feel up to it? - [[user:platypusrex256|platypus]] may 2 2007 23:42 PT&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sarah or Taylor at the end of the vid==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would have assumed that it was Sarah holding the camera when she was running away from the house going all &amp;quot;crap crap crap&amp;quot; and then it&#039;s obviously Taylor saying she didn&#039;t know why it didn&#039;t work, but the page has it listed as Taylor the entire time...did I miss something?&lt;br /&gt;
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I presumed it was Sarah, too. Too many people have the camera, it&#039;s confusing!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Alex_Is...&amp;diff=30271</id>
		<title>Talk:Alex Is...</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-20T05:37:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;211.28.235.37: /* Comments */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
ew, evil really doesn&#039;t suit her. she was much better as the nice young aunt before...though i&#039;m still really glad to have her in the series; she&#039;s the only one who can act!--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 01:54, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:on second thought  think it&#039;s the script that&#039;s the problem. &amp;quot;your little friend...&amp;quot; i expected her to burst into maniacal evil MWA-HA-HA laughter at any moment.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 15:41, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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LG15 is a pseudo-reality site, HEAVY emphasis on the pseudo! Just because there are realistic elements in this &amp;quot;not a game&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t mean it has to be completely realistic. The create-a-trons are, after all, after a new form of drama. In some elements of this series, I wanna hang a big ol&#039; sign in the tradition of Dante&#039;s Inferno, &amp;quot;Abandon logic all ye who enter here!&amp;quot; ;) &lt;br /&gt;
Also, Jonas could have confronted Alex to &amp;quot;draw a line in the sand&amp;quot; and let her know the kindly Aunt act will no longer be tolerated so she should start treating her new enimies (the Teen Angst Trio) with dignity by dropping the act. -- [[User: Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:points taken. i was just complaining about how unrealistic the series is. --[[User:24.19.3.231|24.19.3.231]] 01:52, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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jonas is an idiot. any rational person would just get out of there, but no, he has to have a whole confrontation and alert alex to what they know. and anyway, a confrontation is not so smart if you think someone&#039;s in the order. i think the creators were just desperate for drama. :P --[[User:24.19.3.231|24.19.3.231]] 17:28, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m pretty sure Jonas says &amp;quot;I know you&#039;ve been busy working &#039;&#039;it&#039;&#039; so&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;working &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; so&amp;quot;--&amp;quot;working it&amp;quot; as in flirting. --[[User:Liesbyomission|Liz]] 03:55, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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She&#039;s fucking nuts.&lt;br /&gt;
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bizzare. Jonas was supposedly a random &#039;fan&#039; who offered Bree &amp;amp; Daniel a place to stay with what appeared to be no known affiliations to the order, and now he just suddenly IS linked to the order the whole time? coincidence? or a plot gap?&lt;br /&gt;
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No i don&#039;t believe its a coincidence, I sure hope it will be explained though --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the reason Jonas was able to offer help was because he had the resources to do so (money, no parental interference, house, etc) and the presence of those resources might be due to the Order...?&lt;br /&gt;
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The Notes section on this video is getting out of control... too much speculation and unimportant details. I think someone should really sort through and decide what to keep and what to toss. --[[User:64.13.122.114|64.13.122.114]] 21:23, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I tried to trim the fat. -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Theories ==&lt;br /&gt;
She just let daniel go? Maybe because she wanted to make sure that her message was heard? Thats the only reason I can think of.&lt;br /&gt;
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notice Alex said &amp;quot;the what Order&amp;quot; instead of the more grammatically likely &amp;quot;the Order of what?&amp;quot;. who has ever heard of a group called the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; Order? it&#039;s much for common to be called the Order of the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; (i.e. &amp;quot;Princess Diaries&amp;quot;&#039; fictional &amp;quot;The Order of the Rose&amp;quot;). Before I read the end of the transcript, this detail alone told me &amp;quot;she knows stuff; big stuff.&amp;quot; even to the point where she knows the proper name of the Order (there&#039;s a group supposedly so secret, people call it the name of the hotel they meet at; no &#039;&#039;outsiders&#039;&#039; know its proper name.) &lt;br /&gt;
Also, Alex mentions &amp;quot;I couldn&#039;t have killed your parents because they&#039;re still alive&amp;quot;. Um, who mentioned death? Jonas only mentioned the collection of articles and such were of people she &amp;quot;betrayed&amp;quot;. I think Alex is tipping her hand a little prematurely by such suggestions of her knowing the Order&#039;s true name and willing to jump to murder when no one mentioned it. &lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t have the ability (or health; I sick :( ) to do this, but I am suggesting that in order (no pun intended) to see where the Order was inspired from, we should search for groups that their title follows the format &amp;quot;The ____ Order&amp;quot;. -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:wow--good points! Can you incorperate this into the notes? [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 14:55, 18 March 2007 (CDT)Wingless&lt;br /&gt;
::thanx, but I got no idea how to condense all that. Anyone else who can is welcome to do so! -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:but we know it&#039;s &amp;quot;Order of Denderah.&amp;quot; So I think we&#039;re reading too much into this.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 02:24, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do we? From [[The Order]] page: &amp;quot;The Order of Denderah&amp;quot; was first mentioned in the video Learning To Drive when Daniel and Bree were arguing about Bree&#039;s ritual and she exclaimed that her parents were &amp;quot;not Order of Denderah!&amp;quot; [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 05:46, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That is something that has always bothered me too. However I think &amp;quot;The Order&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Order of Dendereh&amp;quot; are definately the same thing, I guess that the fight was not scripted and they just told Jess to slip in the word Dendereh and this is what we came out with. [[User:Coffeeaddict|Coffeeaddict]] 07:43, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Why do you think they&#039;re the same thing? [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 14:12, 19 March 2007 (CDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::well it&#039;s the only other order we&#039;ve heard about. it&#039;s a logical conclusion. but that was a good point...i think that bit about her parents not being from the order was just forgotten, like all the crowley stuff. that&#039;s what happens when you make it up as you go along.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 15:44, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A friend of mine has a theory that Alex may be feining allegiance to the order to allow the trio to go deeper into hiding, which I agree is possible, due to the nature of the series. [[User:Anto687|Anto]] 19:42, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Alex Is...</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-20T05:36:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;211.28.235.37: /* Theories */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
ew, evil really doesn&#039;t suit her. she was much better as the nice young aunt before...though i&#039;m still really glad to have her in the series; she&#039;s the only one who can act!--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 01:54, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:on second thought  think it&#039;s the script that&#039;s the problem. &amp;quot;your little friend...&amp;quot; i expected her to burst into maniacal evil MWA-HA-HA laughter at any moment.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 15:41, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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LG15 is a pseudo-reality site, HEAVY emphasis on the pseudo! Just because there are realistic elements in this &amp;quot;not a game&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t mean it has to be completely realistic. The create-a-trons are, after all, after a new form of drama. In some elements of this series, I wanna hang a big ol&#039; sign in the tradition of Dante&#039;s Inferno, &amp;quot;Abandon logic all ye who enter here!&amp;quot; ;) &lt;br /&gt;
Also, Jonas could have confronted Alex to &amp;quot;draw a line in the sand&amp;quot; and let her know the kindly Aunt act will no longer be tolerated so she should start treating her new enimies (the Teen Angst Trio) with dignity by dropping the act. -- [[User: Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:points taken. i was just complaining about how unrealistic the series is. --[[User:24.19.3.231|24.19.3.231]] 01:52, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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jonas is an idiot. any rational person would just get out of there, but no, he has to have a whole confrontation and alert alex to what they know. and anyway, a confrontation is not so smart if you think someone&#039;s in the order. i think the creators were just desperate for drama. :P --[[User:24.19.3.231|24.19.3.231]] 17:28, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m pretty sure Jonas says &amp;quot;I know you&#039;ve been busy working &#039;&#039;it&#039;&#039; so&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;working &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; so&amp;quot;--&amp;quot;working it&amp;quot; as in flirting. --[[User:Liesbyomission|Liz]] 03:55, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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She&#039;s fucking nuts.&lt;br /&gt;
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bizzare. Jonas was supposedly a random &#039;fan&#039; who offered Bree &amp;amp; Daniel a place to stay with what appeared to be no known affiliations to the order, and now he just suddenly IS linked to the order the whole time? coincidence? or a plot gap?&lt;br /&gt;
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No i don&#039;t believe its a coincidence, I sure hope it will be explained though --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Notes section on this video is getting out of control... too much speculation and unimportant details. I think someone should really sort through and decide what to keep and what to toss. --[[User:64.13.122.114|64.13.122.114]] 21:23, 18 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I tried to trim the fat. -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Theories ==&lt;br /&gt;
She just let daniel go? Maybe because she wanted to make sure that her message was heard? Thats the only reason I can think of.&lt;br /&gt;
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notice Alex said &amp;quot;the what Order&amp;quot; instead of the more grammatically likely &amp;quot;the Order of what?&amp;quot;. who has ever heard of a group called the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; Order? it&#039;s much for common to be called the Order of the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; (i.e. &amp;quot;Princess Diaries&amp;quot;&#039; fictional &amp;quot;The Order of the Rose&amp;quot;). Before I read the end of the transcript, this detail alone told me &amp;quot;she knows stuff; big stuff.&amp;quot; even to the point where she knows the proper name of the Order (there&#039;s a group supposedly so secret, people call it the name of the hotel they meet at; no &#039;&#039;outsiders&#039;&#039; know its proper name.) &lt;br /&gt;
Also, Alex mentions &amp;quot;I couldn&#039;t have killed your parents because they&#039;re still alive&amp;quot;. Um, who mentioned death? Jonas only mentioned the collection of articles and such were of people she &amp;quot;betrayed&amp;quot;. I think Alex is tipping her hand a little prematurely by such suggestions of her knowing the Order&#039;s true name and willing to jump to murder when no one mentioned it. &lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t have the ability (or health; I sick :( ) to do this, but I am suggesting that in order (no pun intended) to see where the Order was inspired from, we should search for groups that their title follows the format &amp;quot;The ____ Order&amp;quot;. -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:wow--good points! Can you incorperate this into the notes? [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 14:55, 18 March 2007 (CDT)Wingless&lt;br /&gt;
::thanx, but I got no idea how to condense all that. Anyone else who can is welcome to do so! -- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:but we know it&#039;s &amp;quot;Order of Denderah.&amp;quot; So I think we&#039;re reading too much into this.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 02:24, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do we? From [[The Order]] page: &amp;quot;The Order of Denderah&amp;quot; was first mentioned in the video Learning To Drive when Daniel and Bree were arguing about Bree&#039;s ritual and she exclaimed that her parents were &amp;quot;not Order of Denderah!&amp;quot; [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 05:46, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That is something that has always bothered me too. However I think &amp;quot;The Order&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Order of Dendereh&amp;quot; are definately the same thing, I guess that the fight was not scripted and they just told Jess to slip in the word Dendereh and this is what we came out with. [[User:Coffeeaddict|Coffeeaddict]] 07:43, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Why do you think they&#039;re the same thing? [[User:Wingless earthbound|Wingless earthbound]] 14:12, 19 March 2007 (CDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::well it&#039;s the only other order we&#039;ve heard about. it&#039;s a logical conclusion. but that was a good point...i think that bit about her parents not being from the order was just forgotten, like all the crowley stuff. that&#039;s what happens when you make it up as you go along.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 15:44, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A friend of mine has a theory that Alex may be feining allegiance to the order to allow the trio to go deeper into hiding, which I agree is possible, due to the nature of the series. [[User:Anto687|Anto]] 19:42, 19 March 2007 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Alex Is...</title>
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&lt;div&gt;She just let daniel go? Maybe because she wanted to make sure that her message was heard? Thats the only reason I can think of.&lt;br /&gt;
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She&#039;s fucking nuts.&lt;br /&gt;
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bizzare. Jonas was supposedly a random &#039;fan&#039; who offered Bree &amp;amp; Daniel a place to stay with what appeared to be no known affiliations to the order, and now he just suddenly IS linked to the order the whole time? coincidence? or a plot gap?&lt;br /&gt;
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No i don&#039;t believe its a coincidence, I sure hope it will be explained though&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the reason Jonas was able to offer help was because he had the resources to do so (money, no parental interference, house, etc) and the presence of those resources might be due to the Order...?&lt;br /&gt;
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notice Alex said &amp;quot;the what Order&amp;quot; instead of the more grammatically likely &amp;quot;the Order of what?&amp;quot;. who has ever heard of a group called the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; Order? it&#039;s much for common to be called the Order of the &amp;quot;whatever&amp;quot; (i.e. &amp;quot;Princess Diaries&amp;quot;&#039; fictional &amp;quot;The Order of the Rose&amp;quot;). Before I read the end of the transcript, this detail alone told me &amp;quot;she knows stuff; big stuff.&amp;quot; even to the point where she knows the proper name of the Order (there&#039;s a group supposedly so secret, people call it the name of the hotel they meet at; no &#039;&#039;outsiders&#039;&#039; know its proper name.) &lt;br /&gt;
Also, Alex mentions &amp;quot;I couldn&#039;t have killed your parents because they&#039;re still alive&amp;quot;. Um, who mentioned death? Jonas only mentioned the collection of articles and such were of people she &amp;quot;betrayed&amp;quot;. I think Alex is tipping her hand a little prematurely by such suggestions of her knowing the Order&#039;s true name and willing to jump to murder when no one mentioned it. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t have the ability (or health; I sick :( ) to do this, but I am suggesting that in order (no pun intended) to see where the Order was inspired from, we should search for groups that their title follows the format &amp;quot;The ____ Order&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[user:Nieriel.Manwathiel|Nieriel.Manwathiel]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Beach_Bum&amp;diff=27357</id>
		<title>Talk:Beach Bum</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-10T08:01:24Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;==Notes Section==&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;m not going to change anything yet, but seriously, the Notes Section is getting just a TAD TOO speculative.  IMO, Notes are factual, or pretty darn close to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The people plugging in these notes for this particular video are reading perhaps a little too much into them without sufficient evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If there IS anything &amp;quot;foreshadowing&amp;quot; in this Vlog, let the next video take place so we can confirm.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Leave speculation in the forums, if you please (again, I&#039;m not changing anything YET).&lt;br /&gt;
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:What does everyone else say? --[[User:Phoenician|Phoenician]], 8 March 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree.  The notes have gotten too speculative.  I think the notes should explain references, goofs, past and present plot tie-ins, etc. but stuff like &amp;quot;Possibly there is potential plot foreshadowing&amp;quot; should really stick to forum threads. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:34, 8 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally I like reading the speculative notes, I find them interesting. I&#039;d be for keeping them, but I can see how they could become just what one fan thinks instead of many, which has a bit more weight.&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the speculation, but it&#039;s place is not in the notes. I&#039;d like to see it in the discussion, rather than on the article [[User:Anto687|Anto]] 06:42, 9 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, something bad DID happen (apparently, Jonas and Bree can&#039;t break in anywhere without the Beast) -- but still . . . those notes were too speculative to BE notes. --[[User:Phoenician|Phoenician]], 10:33 PM, 9 March 2007 (MT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agree fair enough to have them in the discussion - that way they are still there without coming under notes. Sounds good to me...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Beach_Bum&amp;diff=27195</id>
		<title>Talk:Beach Bum</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-09T06:03:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;211.28.235.37: /* Notes Section */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Notes Section==&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;m not going to change anything yet, but seriously, the Notes Section is getting just a TAD TOO speculative.  IMO, Notes are factual, or pretty darn close to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The people plugging in these notes for this particular video are reading perhaps a little too much into them without sufficient evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:If there IS anything &amp;quot;foreshadowing&amp;quot; in this Vlog, let the next video take place so we can confirm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Leave speculation in the forums, if you please (again, I&#039;m not changing anything YET).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What does everyone else say? --[[User:Phoenician|Phoenician]], 8 March 2007&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree.  The notes have gotten too speculative.  I think the notes should explain references, goofs, past and present plot tie-ins, etc. but stuff like &amp;quot;Possibly there is potential plot foreshadowing&amp;quot; should really stick to forum threads. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:34, 8 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Personally I like reading the speculative notes, I find them interesting. I&#039;d be for keeping them, but I can see how they could become just what one fan thinks instead of many, which has a bit more weight.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Talk:Valentine%27s_Day_Massacre&amp;diff=23019</id>
		<title>Talk:Valentine&#039;s Day Massacre</title>
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&lt;div&gt;the gangsters didn&#039;t fear police during prohibition because the police were all corrupt! and no one went after Al Capone because he was the head of a huge dangerous crime ring! Try bribing the Order and joining the mafia, Jonas. until then, stop being overly macho. --[[User:24.19.3.231|24.19.3.231]] 22:57, 14 February 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Nieriel.Manwathiel]] Overly macho? Dingus, he&#039;s being a grown-up and deciding that they have to do something, yet he&#039;s ready to admit they need help to do things right! Stop being overly critical....&lt;br /&gt;
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Girl Power! - Like Spice Girls!&lt;br /&gt;
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The flat hair is gone! - TokyoMike&lt;br /&gt;
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Hm... is he wearing the same top he was wearing when he posted last time, or is that just me? (sorry, this is completely irrelevant, I know.)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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