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==SEASON ONE==<br />
==="Kate"?===<br />
<li>[[Fight and Flight]] {{Init|Kate}} <br />
<li>[[I like Pigeons!]] {{Init|Kate}} <br />
<li>[[A Room With A View...]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[A Friendly Lie]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Spiders]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Who would live in a room like this?]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Welcome to the roof]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Derrida]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Awful Dream]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Coming up roses]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Money in the bank]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Sangas]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Lovers Quarrel]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
===Missing Memories===<br />
<li>[[I Can't Remember Anything!]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[A new friend]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Charlie's Workout]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[A friend indeed]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Office space]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Ninja Sangas (A Charlie Animation)]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Charlie's party]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Tariq Attack]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Free Will (video)|Free Will]] {{Init|Steve}}<br />
<li>[[Walk of Shame]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[A Message From Me]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Birdwatching]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
===Carnaby Street===<br />
<li>[[Trait Positive]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[I have to go]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Salt or sweet?]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Dizzy Rascals]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Creep or unique?]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Carnaby Street, Saturday 18th August, 10AM]] {{Init|Sophie}}<br />
<li>[[Office Romance]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Once Upon a Time]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Hero For Hire]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
===The Hymn of One===<br />
<li>[[I Know Hallam Foe!]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[I Am Hallam Foe!]] {{Init|Jamie Bell}}<br />
<li>[[Ding Dong]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[The Prisoner]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Explain yourself]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Forgiveness Prevails?]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[The Rescue]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[The Story So Far... (video)|The Story So Far...]] {{Init|Sophie}}<br />
<li>[[Gavin Steps Up]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Ultimatum]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[A Day in the Life]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Disturbia]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[False Alarm]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[...]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
===The Specialist===<br />
<li>[[There Goes The Neighbourhood]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Girls Are From Venus]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Keep Your Socks On!]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Who Watches The Watcher?]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Girl Power]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[The End]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Tell Kim I Love Her]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Dr. Weirdo]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Super Kate]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Desperately Seeking Shia]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Somebody Do Something]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Saved By LaBeouf]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
===The Art Exhibition===<br />
<li>[[Pest Control]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[The Bald Guy]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[A Close Shave]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Dream Lover]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Dudley did it!]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[The Gallery - 6pm 22nd September 2007]] {{Init|Sophie}}<br />
===Seaside===<br />
<li>[[Pack Up Your Troubles]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Devon Days]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Orange Wednesday]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[The Days - Evil Girls]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Moving On]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Goodbye Devon]] {{Init|Kate}}<br />
<li>[[Why?]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[A Quiet Night Out]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Hymn of One (video)|Hymn of One]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Somewhere Only We Know]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Cooking With Tariq]] {{Init|Julia}}<br />
===The Order===<br />
<li>[[Enter The Order]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Fever Pitch]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Bless You]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Hear My Song]] {{Init|Steve}}<br />
<li>[[Escapism]] {{Init|Tariq}}<br />
<li>[[Starry, starry night]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[No Turning Back]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Van Sandwich]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Sabotage]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[What The Hell?!]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[My Last Resort]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Out of the Frying Pan...]] {{Init|Steve}}<br />
<li>[[The Message]] {{Init|Steve}}<br />
<li>[[Kate Returns]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
<li>[[Birthday Surprise]] {{Init|Gavin}}<br />
<li>[[Trait Negative]] {{Init|Charlie}}<br />
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*[[#"Kate"?|"Kate"?]]<br />
*[[#Missing Memories|Missing Memories]]<br />
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*[[#The Hymn of One|The Hymn of One]]<br />
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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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==No uploading??==<br />
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The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago. <br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".<br />
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::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::<small>P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?</small><br />
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::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Missions Page==<br />
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox<br />
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:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Show Template?==<br />
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Any thoughts at all? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"<br />
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?<br />
:::We. Don't. Care.<br />
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?<br />
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.<br />
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.<br />
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007 <br />
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.<br />
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.<br />
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".<br />
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.<br />
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.<br />
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==LGPedia: pages==<br />
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==I Finished the Missions Page==<br />
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Potential naming problem==<br />
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization<br />
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.<br />
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).<br />
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==Portals==<br />
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Maddison Atkins ==<br />
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Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''â¢Silverâ¢'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Relationships ==<br />
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Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Location pages for KM==<br />
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:<br />
*By City - "Images of London."<br />
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.<br />
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.<br />
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.<br />
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.<br />
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.<br />
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== KM Forum Links ==<br />
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Oops :X<br />
::My bad, consider it fixed.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Re-Organization Day ==<br />
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Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}<br />
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}<br />
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Need help with title! ==<br />
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There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Vandalism ==<br />
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)<br />
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:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&diff=80566LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony2007-10-25T09:54:18Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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==No uploading??==<br />
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The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago. <br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".<br />
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::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::<small>P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?</small><br />
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::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Missions Page==<br />
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox<br />
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:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Show Template?==<br />
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Any thoughts at all? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"<br />
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?<br />
:::We. Don't. Care.<br />
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?<br />
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.<br />
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.<br />
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007 <br />
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.<br />
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.<br />
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".<br />
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.<br />
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.<br />
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==LGPedia: pages==<br />
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==I Finished the Missions Page==<br />
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Potential naming problem==<br />
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization<br />
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.<br />
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).<br />
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==Portals==<br />
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Maddison Atkins ==<br />
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Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Relationships ==<br />
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Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Location pages for KM==<br />
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:<br />
*By City - "Images of London."<br />
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.<br />
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.<br />
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.<br />
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.<br />
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.<br />
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== KM Forum Links ==<br />
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Oops :X<br />
::My bad, consider it fixed.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Re-Organization Day ==<br />
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Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}<br />
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}<br />
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Need help with title! ==<br />
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There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Vandalism ==<br />
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)<br />
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:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Silent_Treatment&diff=80565Silent Treatment2007-10-25T09:53:04Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Blog <br />
| name = Silent Treatment<br />
| number = 0080<br />
| image = St daniel.jpg<br />
| caption = The camera is my only friend now...<br />
| blogger = Daniel<br />
| date = November 21st, 2006<br />
| url = {{lg15|115}}<br />
| forumid = 3186<br />
| length = 0:51<br />
| description = I don't want to talk to Bree right now...<br />
| location = [[Motels|A motel]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|bree|daniel|danielbeast|silent|not|talking|mad|serious|home}}<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett<br />
| camera = <br />
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders and Vanessa Roveto<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, Amanda Goodfried, and Vanessa Roveto<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = <br />
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| cast =<br />
{{VidChar|Daniel}}<br />
{{VidChar|Bree}}<br />
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| Previous = Survival Skills<br />
| Next = An Awkward Silence<br />
| PreviousB = Breakfast In Bed<br />
| NextB = Jonas?<br />
}}<br />
{{EpHeader|80}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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'''Daniel:''' I'm not talking to [[Bree]] right now. She thinks this is some sort of game.<br />
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'''Bree:''' No I don't. And might I add, the [[Survival Skills]] thing was [[Owen]]'s idea?<br />
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'''Daniel:''' See what I mean? My parents don't really care where I am. They're not exactly the "hands-on" type. I've called my mom every few days. She thinks I'm camping or whatever. Anyways, this sucks. I don't know who's following us or even if we're being followed. I was taking classes at a JC. I ''wanted'' to study film. It's just frustrating. My life's gone.<br />
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'''Bree:''' And what about my life?<br />
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'''Daniel:''' (''He looks back at her, looks annoyed, but says nothing before he looks back to the camera.'') I really just...wish things would go back to normal.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* This is the first Daniel video since [[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]] to not be in [[letterbox format]].</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Category:Jonas%27s_blogs&diff=80562Category:Jonas's blogs2007-10-25T09:18:49Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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[[Category:Cameos]]</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Category:Jonas%27s_blogs&diff=80559Category:Jonas's blogs2007-10-25T09:11:13Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Blog<br />
| name = Aunt Alex<br />
| number = 0151<br />
| image = Jonasaunt.JPG<br />
| caption = If you hit on my aunt, I will go Bree on you.<br />
| blogger = Daniel<br />
| date = March 11th, 2007<br />
| url = {{lg15|205}}<br />
| forumid = 7341<br />
| length = 2:56<br />
| description = We just got back from picking up Jonas' Aunt Alex from the airport. -Daniel<br />
| location = [[Alex's house]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|alex|aunt|airport|car|drive|lipstick|wow}}<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Mesh Flinders<br />
| camera = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Glenn Rubenstein<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = <br />
| cast = <br />
{{VidChar|Daniel}} <br />
{{VidChar|Jonas}}<br />
{{VidChar|Alex}} <br />
| Previous = My Hand Hurts<br />
| Next = Training Hard<br />
| PreviousB = Beach Bum<br />
| NextB = On The Hot Seat<br />
| PreviousC = <br />
| NextC =<br />
}}<br />
{{One other use|the video|[[Jonas]]'s aunt|Alex}}<br />
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{{EpHeader|151}}<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
(''Daniel and Jonas are in a car driving.'')<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Well, [[Bree]] left.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' (''softly'') "See ya."<br />
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'''Daniel:''' So, anyways, we're on our way to the airport right now to pick up Jonas's aunt. And, uh, Bree decided to go hang out with Tachyon. Yeah, I'm sure that's the only reason she left though, to hang out with Tachyon. You think? Yeah maybe? Just.. (''Daniel turns the camera towards Jonas.'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' What?<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Tell everyone out here what you asked her before she left.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' No, that was just a thing. I'm not gonna--<br />
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'''Daniel:''' No, tell us. It was a, a joke right?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Yeah, of course it was a joke.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Well, then tell us.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' No.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Why, why not? You think it was just a little bit messed up?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Ok, ok, I'll tell you.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' All right, cool.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' It was really innocent, she way overreacted, but I said, uh, this thing that my mom used to tell me. She would say, Jonas, would you rather, uh, be dumber than you look or look dumber than you are? And I would say, well, I'd rather look dumber than I am. And she'd say, are you sure that's possible? (''Daniel laughs.'') See, innocent.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Well, let's put it like this (''Daniel turns the camera towards himself.''). He said that to Bree. Bree, like as in the brain child, Bree. (''in a high pitched voice'') I'm-so-smart Bree. (''normally'') Yeah, Bree. Bree. It was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. Within two hours she was all packed up and ready for Tachyon to pick her up. What do you think they're doing? (''Daniel turns the camera towards Jonas.'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Talking about ways to kill me. (''Daniel laughs''). Oh, listen, uh, before we pick up my aunt, uh...I don't know how kosher she's gonna be with the whole B&E I pulled in her office thing today.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Are you serious?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Yeah....<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Now he tells us.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' It'll be fine. It's--I'm pretty sure.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' You sure? Then why'd you replace the lock? (''laughs'') Are you gonna tell her about the stuff you found?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' I don't know.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' How do you tell her without telling her that you broke into her office?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Yeah, good point.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' What are you gonna tell her about your hand?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Ah, I don't think I'm gonna--<br />
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'''Daniel:''' It's a conundrum.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Yes, Daniel-san, it is a conundrum. (''Daniel laughs.'')<br />
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'''Daniel:''' She's divorced, right? Did she ever like, re-marry?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Daniel, Daniel.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' What, dude?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Listen to me.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' I'm not saying anything.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Listen to me, do not hit--<br />
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'''Daniel:''' I'm not saying--All I'm saying is--<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Do not hit on my aunt. If you hit on my aunt, I will go Bree on you.<br />
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(''Jonas's aunt gets in the car.'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' All right.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' All right.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Say hi to the camera.<br />
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'''Alex:''' Hi.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe, maybe tell us a little something about Rome.<br />
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'''Alex:''' Is he serious?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Mmhmm, but just ignore him.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Whatever, dude.<br />
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'''Alex:''' Oh my God, what happened to your hand?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Oh, um, nothing, I just, I, I cut it in the kitchen. I was making salad--<br />
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'''Alex:''' Are you ok?<br />
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'''Jonas:''' It's a long story. Yeah, I'm good though.<br />
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'''Alex:''' Don't get near knives.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' So--<br />
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'''Alex:''' I've been telling you that since you were ten.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Do you have a boyfriend? (''Alex laughs'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Daniel.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' Well, I'm just wondering.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Daniel, you wanna walk?<br />
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'''Alex:''' I...<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Do you want to walk?<br />
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'''Alex:''' ...don't have time for a boyfriend.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' You don't have time for a boyfriend?<br />
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'''Alex:''' No... sorry.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Just take it easy.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' I'm being nice.<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Play it cool.<br />
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'''Alex:''' It's ok.<br />
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'''Daniel:''' I'm totally cool, ask her. I'm cool right? (''Alex nods.'') See, she thinks I'm cool. (''Jonas shakes his head.'')<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* Starting with this video, we know that Bree left Jonas's aunt's house with [[Tachyon]].<br />
* There was much speculation about the identity of the actress who plays [[Alex|Jonas's aunt]]. Some said it was [[Amy Aitken]], Kim Argetsinger, or a woman named Leigh. It was quickly revealed that [[Bitsie Tulloch]] is the actress playing Aunt Alex. This was the first time that [[Liza Weil]] was not suspected of being the actress.<br />
* B&E refers to "Breaking and Entering", a [[Crime Report|crime]] which has been perpetrated at least twice in the series. [[Breaking And Entering]] is also the title of one of Daniel's blogs.<br />
*''Landmark NuWilshire Theatre'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1314+Wilshire+Blvd.,+Santa+Monica,+CA+90403&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.426353,59.765625&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.026948,-118.489673&spn=0.00802,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr], ''Living Torah Center'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=living+torah+center&near=santa+monica,+ca&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=34.027695,-118.48918&spn=0.016041,0.029182&om=1&iwloc=A], ''Farrah's Florist'' [http://www.google.com/maps?q=1032+Wilshire+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA+90401&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.024796,-118.492334&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr], ''Banner Carpets & Drapes'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=734+Santa+Monica+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.021933,-118.491411&sspn=0.016042,0.029182&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.019835,-118.492012&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr&layer=t] and ''Toyota Santa Monica'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=734+Santa+Monica+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.021933,-118.491411&sspn=0.016042,0.029182&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.019835,-118.492012&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr&layer=t] (respectively) and can be seen in the background. All are located in Santa Monica, California.</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&diff=80557LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony2007-10-25T09:09:30Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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[[Image:GustaveCailbotteThe Balcony1880-Cropped.jpg|left|thumb|150px|A couple of [[LGPedia]] admins ([[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Psmith|Psmith]]) take a breather to admire the view from [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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[[Image:Lucy's_Balcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|In happier days, friendly [[LGPedia]] admins, [[User:Brucker|Brucker]] (now retired), [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]], and [[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] (also retired) enjoyed unseasonably warm afternoons on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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Welcome to '''Lucy's Balcony''', a place to ask questions or discuss general issues about the [[LGPedia]]. This page is intended to be a place where admins and active editors can discuss ongoing issues, ideas and concerns. To start a new thread, [http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=LGPedia:Lucy%27s_Balcony&action=edit&section=new click here]. Please remember to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end.<br />
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For old or inactive conversations, visit [[LGPedia:Lucy's Balcony/archive|Lucy's archive]].<br />
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[[Image:snowwhitebalcony.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[User:Zoey|Zoey]], one of your [[LGPedia]] admins, frolics with the doves on [[Lucy's Balcony]].]]<br />
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==No uploading??==<br />
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The "Upload File" function doesn't seem to be working since the site renovation (for me, anyway, and judging by the fact that [[Mission Possible]] still doesn't have a pic, probably for everyone else). Is someone actively working to fix this? (Please???) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 17:33, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Hmm, I don't know, but it's not working for me either. Someone should probably send an email to the right person if no one already has. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if I should just send it straight to [[the Creators]] or to someone else. If it's not fixed in the next few hours and no one has responded here, I'll go ahead and send them an email.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 19:18, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Zoey mentioned she had e-mailed BK an hour ago. <br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 19:20, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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We can upload files now (and quite amusingly, [[User:EmoGlasses|EmoGlasses]] and I uploaded nearly identical pictures, respectively called NinjaSpencer and SpencerNinja). However, the picture doesn't appear on the episode template, and in its place is a distracting error message. I've left it up there for now, but I'm sure that someone will revert that... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|<span style="color:darkgreen">JB<small>SHRYNE</small></span>]]''' 23:03, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: *Hair pull out* Darn error messages! Okay, I'm working on it.. contacting people. Hopefully we get this all sorted out soon! :( --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 23 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Make sure to tell them the problem is most likely a faulty installation of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD_Graphics_Library libgd], specific error messages being "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromjpeg</code>" and "<code>Incomplete GD library configuration: missing function imagecreatefromgif</code>".<br />
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::Googling the error messages should give them enough results to find the error.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:18, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::<small>P.S.: Did I mention it takes extra-effort to fuck up server libraries while moving around ''content''?</small><br />
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::: The new lonelygirl15 site is blah, IMO. I don't even see why they had to tinker with the LGPedia. Our old design matched, but now the portals, particularly the LG portal, really clash with this new gray/modernist design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:20, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you saying you dislike the LGPedia design or the Lonelygirl15 design? I'm confused. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:42, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Missions Page==<br />
I was thinking about having a missions page for the lonelygirl5 characters. Like a list of their missions, and what worked, what didn't, who was involved, why were they doing this. Sort of like one part of it could be about obtaining jules. Does anyone think we should do that, or not? Does anyone have any new missions? Like they can work with me to find all missions.[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:14, 24 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I support this idea. It's good to gather information on a wiki. Anyhow, the capturing of Jules, the getting Bree back millions of times, the breaking into Lucy's apartment twice, the whole deal. Should we create it at [[Missions]]? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:27, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Yeah, I'm imagine we could add Daniel's rescue, the tailing of Alex, and the search for Isaac Gilman as well! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:32, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Someone need to put it on a sandbox and we can all work on it together. I'm not sure how to work with a sandbox.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:26, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::There i tried to start it, but it wasn't very succesful. If you are good with codes please go here. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=User:Houdini/sandbox<br />
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:That was just an idea to have the blue border and the table format. If you like can you spoof it up a bit. And if you don't, feel free to change it.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:35, 25 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::We could do the capturing of Jules, the Vegas capturing of BDJ, the tailing of Alex, the search for Isaac Gilman, the race to contact Spencer Gilman, Daniel breaking into the EPOGEN warehouse, Daniel breaking into Lucy's apartment, the Mexico capturing of Alex by Lucy, getting Bree back, Bree escaping to be with her fellow Hymnies, getting Bree back again, the Order murdering Drew and Isaac, Brother murdering Gemma, Tachyon exposing Gemma, and so the saga continues. It's a lot, but I think it'd be nice to keep all the missions somewhere. '''Strong support.''' <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:41, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Show Template?==<br />
Considering that [[lonelygirl15]] and [[KateModern]] right now both use [[Template:FakeBlog2]], I think it's time for a show template. The show template could have slots for the creators of the show, the main cast of the show, an image of the main cast of the show, a caption for that image, beginning date to end date (end date optional - if you don't fill it in, it would say "to present"), optional spin-off slot, & more. Any opinions? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 10:10, 27 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Any thoughts at all? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::You remind me of a child..."Mom, look what I'm doing! Mom! Mom! Look! YOU'RE NOT LOOOOOKING!!!"<br />
:::Isn't the fact that nobody responds answer enough?<br />
:::We. Don't. Care.<br />
:::The current setup works fine. On a theoretical level, you are right. FakeBlog2 is abused in that situation, and a dedicated template would make sense. But practically, ''it's overkill''. Why create an entire new template for ''two pages'' if the hack works flawlessly?<br />
:::The only difference a dedicated show template would make is that a dozen fan series would start using it.<br />
:::So, as said...nobody responded for a reason. If you consider it necessary, go ahead and do it. But the fact that not even ''Houdini'', who's enthusiastic about pretty much everything, replied, should give you a hint about how much interest there is in this topic.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 17:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That was harsh Renegade. Anywase i honestly didn't get what you meant silver. I must have read it while i was tired. Anywase i say go ahead and do it. It doesn't hurt to do it. It only adds to LGPedia in a good way. Oh and renegade what did that enthusiastic thing mean.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::What was harsh about that? If all other discussions on this page get replies but this one doesn't, that ''is'' a pretty good indicator that nobody cares. There's nothing harsh about that, and it's not even ment in an insulting way. That's just how it is. As I said, on a technical level, he's right, so there's probably no one here who'd object - but on a practical level, everything works, so no one here is motivated to change it, either. So, nobody cares. If he wants to change it, fine. If not, everything still works. Nothing harsh about it. Just human nature.<br />
:::And that enthusiastic thing was pointing out that, even though you are involved in everything and always happy to edit and start new projects, not even ''you'' cared before you saw me reference you. I was just trying to put the lack of interest into perspective.<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 22:40, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Guys, please take it easy around here . . . .--[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 22:09, 29 July 2007 <br />
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::Alright sorry Pheon.I wasn't going to start a fight i was just wondering what that statement meant.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 22:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::I figured no one was responding to this, so I haven't checked Lucy's Balcony in a while. When I saw it... Renegade, that was harsh. I remind you of a whining child? I was just wondering if any administrators had any opinions or input to my idea, because, as always, I am trying to help the LGPedia. You're just hurting its members. Thanks for your support Pheon, and Houdini. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:09, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::It was the truth. If you consider the truth harsh, then fine, it was harsh. But I am not to blame for the truth. You posted ''thrice'' and the only reason I replied was because I feared you wouldn't stop unless you got some feedback.<br />
::::If nobody cares, nobody cares. That's not my opinion, that's not an attempt to insult you, that's just reality.<br />
::::Seriously, think about it: If I was wrong, if "nobody cares" was a lie, why am I the only one responding? Houdini replied to me, because I mentioned him. Pheon replied because a fight seemed to start. The only one replying to ''you'' was me, and only because you kept spamming "hello? Hello? HELLO?".<br />
::::If you hadn't kept posting until someone replied, I'd have never replied, so Houdini would've never replied, so Pheon would've never replied. If you hadn't spammed, you would've gotten no reply at all. That is fucking ''reality'', not an attempt to insult you. ''That alone'' should prove that I'm right.<br />
::::I have given you my opinion. You are technically right, but it doesn't matter. And I'd bet the fact that it doesn't matter is the reason you weren't getting any replies.<br />
::::So excuse me for not getting all touchy feely when the sole reason for my post was to stop you from posting "hello? someone there?" until the end of eternity.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 16:38, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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This = Stupid. Everyone = breathe. Conversation = over. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 16:47, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==LGPedia: pages==<br />
Now that the LGPedia is thriving, perhaps we should have some more LGPedia: namespace policy pages, plus things like LG:CHU (LGPedia:Changing username) and LG:SHORT (LGPedia:Shortcuts). I'm just trying to get some wiki-like content from Wikipedia, so let me know what you think. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 11:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:Hello? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 15:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::I say go ahead. But talk to an admin first.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:36, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::I'm going to say something to [[User:Zoey|Zoey]] right now. <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 09:22, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==I Finished the Missions Page==<br />
I did it today, man that was work. Anywase tell me what you think, and also thanks silverbullet for all your help. If you see something that need changes then go ahead and change it. If you don't see a mission that i missed than put it in there.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 16:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Potential naming problem==<br />
I've just noticed that KM-images are named using the same scheme as the LG15 ones; sure, the probability it comes to actual naming conflicts is low, but shouldn't we add an infix for organizational purposes? Otherwise, we'll have stuff like<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
*00XA-blablabla<br />
in a few months, and no one will be able to tell which blablabla belongs to KM and which to LG15. I'm thinking of force-suggesting 9999-'''KM'''-Description-Modification.xxx here. Alternatively, '''KM'''9999-Description-Modification.xxx would separate them entirely in file listings. Opinions?<br />
:~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 06:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::ill try to stick to it, you should talk to psmith he uploads a lot of pictures--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 20:18, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Psmith is doing LG15, but Truncatedslinky seems to be the KM equivalent. I'll message him. Good idea, thank you. :)<br />
::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 20:48, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::thats true, he/she i dont know is doing a lot of pictures and this would help out a lot for orginization<br />
::good idea--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 21:03, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Cool, that's fine, I just didn't know you guys wanted to do that. I can rename the pictures and upload them again if absolutely necessary. I don't always upload a ton of pictures, but there were basically none on the KateModern site and it definitely needed some. Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 22:42, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::::Damnit! 50/50 chance...I chose "him" because of the Daniel/Jonas hook up support userbox (guessed you were a gay male). Sorry for the misinterpretation.<br />
::::Anyway, I don't think re-uploading will be necessary, as long as we start doing that from now on.<br />
:::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:40, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::Amended image naming convention for KM sounds good. Let me know what you decide and I can change the [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] to reflect it. I prefer having KM at the very beginning (e.g. '''KM0006-KateHoldingASandwich.jpg''' to replace "0006-YummyPiggies.jpg"). We probably also need 2 new image categories ("LG show images" and "KM show images") but that would require a lot of tedious categorizing (maybe a job for [[LGBot]]?) Your opinions on this would be appreciated. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::::P.S. I haven't got involved in KM images yet as I haven't watched any of the shows. Are they any good? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:42, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Eh . . . it's got potential, IMO. But frankly, I've been more concentrated for the LG Season Finale, so don't take my criticism too strongly. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:47, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::::I'm with you on that, Pheon. I'll hold out on it for a while longer because I think the Creators deserve that much. Anyway, if you guys need something done with the LGBot, just let me know. I am still here reading things; I just don't have the time to get into very much editing.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:26, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Personally I like, and have been using 9999-KM-Description.jpg. I think we should definately make a decision soon though, before too many images get added. Please, everyone, post! :P --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:42, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:If the KM is at the beginning it is easier to sort through a whole bunch of files ordered alphabetically (i.e. the LG and KM files separate out as Renegade mentioned). This probably only affects me because I have so many images on my laptop from which I upload on to LGPedia. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:P.S. Is there an easy way to tag images with the show name and episode number without embedding in the name or is the only way to tediously categorize every image with "Images of Episode 9999" and "Images of Show XX"? Could LGBot categorize by looking at the file name? I'm thinking it would be nice to have a page that works like [[:Category:Videos_by_length]] called something like "Category:Images_by_episode". Anyone know how to do this? If not, don't worry... not important. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:37, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::That's fair, I see your point. Is there a way to update image names online.. or would someone have to reupload all of them using the new name. Er, would anyone want to volunteer for that? XD haha. And yes, I agree, that would be an AWESEOME page to have. I think we'll have to ask Jonpro if the bot would make this possible though.... Jon? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::The last time we started an image naming convention we just decided to leave current images as they were and start being strict from then on. However, I might go back and redo some image names if I have time (yes it will require reuploading and deleting the old one). Do you want to update [[MediaWiki:Uploadtext]] or shall I? [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:10, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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Oh you can go ahead and do it, if you dont mind. You're good at explaining these sorts of things. So any KM images will start with KM.. but leave the LG ones as they are, right? Sounds good.. I'll let you update the mediawiki page though (and I'll remove this from active discussions, since this seems to be resolved, yay).<br />
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==Portals==<br />
I know this is going to sound really bad coming from be but, should the [[missions]] page be on Portal:Lonelygirl15 and Portal:KateModern because the page is a big part for both series. If it need some touching up before it is put on there thats ok, but what do you guys think.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 23:26, 30 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
: I do think its got potential, but in its preliminary stages I still think it needs some "fine-tuning." Let's give the page some more time to develop and then we can worry about where it should belong --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:33, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Since it's cross-series, it might be positioned better in the "LG15 Universe Central" box on the main page. But before it goes ''that'' public, it needs some visual touch ups. ;)<br />
::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:44, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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it definately needs touching up thats for sure--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:34, 31 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Maddison Atkins ==<br />
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Should the character page change to Maddison and the ARG page move to Maddison Atkins.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:23, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I see no reasoning for that, but it's a good idea as always, Houdini. Thanks for the idea, but I think that the equivalent of Maddison is indeed Maddison Atkins, and that the ARG page should stay at Maddison Avenue. Thanks, though! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâSilverÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂâ'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 16:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Relationships ==<br />
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Also should we move relationships to Lonelygirl15 relationships, and add Katemodern relationships, because we already know a few relationships for katemodern such as kate and tariq...charlie and gavin...and kate and scott or is it steve. Anywase if not that then i think we should make relationships as a link for the main page, just like what were doing with missions.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:53, 12 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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==Location pages for KM==<br />
About Location pages for KM... we may want to wait a bit before we decide how to do this because at this rate they'll be filming all over London. So we could end up with:<br />
*By City - "Images of London."<br />
*By Postcode - "Images of EC1", "Images of W1" etc. (London postcodes that UK people will easily understand and can be explained to others - EC1 = East Central 1, W1 = West 1 etc.) Advantage = exact with no discussion required.<br />
*By London Area Name - "Images of Spitalfields", "Images of Soho" etc. (these are the names of small areas of London). Advantage = friendly names rather than impersonal postcodes but there are grey areas as it were on deciding where one area starts and another ends.<br />
*By Street Name - "Images of Brushfield Street", "Images of Carnaby Street" etc. This could become a problem given the number of streets that will be filmed upon.<br />
*All of the above so you can browse images however you like. Disadvantage = lot of work for every image.<br />
[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 18:25, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Shoot. Okay, well I was just going to do the ones you took of Carnaby Street, simply because it was a notable location where a major fan interaction took place. I figured for the episodes where they were just out and about in London, we could do a "General London area" or whatnot. I think with the big thing that just happened at Carnaby St, it's worth a location page, IMO. Er, do you disagree? Blah... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Given a lot of the pics are actually Broadwick St. rather than Carnaby St., my first instinct is "Images of Soho". Especially as more videos may be set in and around these streets given how the Bebo offices are located there. Tariq/Gavin will probably be filmed a lot around Spitalfields/EC1 given that's where their office is supposed to be. But then I understand that maybe someone just wants to search on "Carnaby Street" because of how prominent the street name is in all the videos and interaction. So maybe it should just be "Images of the Carnaby Street area" which is more accurate but longwinded. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:27, 18 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Well, as for the categories themselves, I see no reason not to make specific categories and then group them all into <nowiki>[[Category:Images of London]]</nowiki> or something similar. As far as location pages, I also don't see why we can't have specific pages for notable locations.. and maybe have a "General London area" page... similar to how we have a specific page for [[Topanga Canyon]] but still have one for [[General LA area]]. I think this works nicely... not sure though? What do you think? :/ --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:54, 19 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Ah... actually I meant to say "location categories" in the first place and not "location pages" (by which you mean the articles I presume). Woops.<br />
::::It would be nice to have both a London category and subcategories for different parts of London. My rather pedantic point about "Carnaby Street" is that maybe "Carnaby Street area" is more accurate given most of the action took place on Broadwick Street. And yes we definitely need a location ''page'' for this. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 15:48, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::::Ahh, okay. I wonder if Jon could do this with the bot so I wouldn't have to.. if not, I don't mind going in and adding "area" to the end of the location. Sounds good. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:58, 20 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== KM Forum Links ==<br />
KM episode page forum links are pointing to http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/ instead of http://www.lg15.com/katemodern. I think the template has a switch for lg/km but I'm not sure how to use it. [[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] & [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] created it so if you see this please update one of the KM video pages as an example and we can do the rest. Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 11:04, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:Nice catch, Psmith. It's not the KM video pages that need to be updated, but [[Template:Blog]]. I tried to fix it but failed :(. I'll work on it later if no one has figured it out by then.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:55, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::Oops :X<br />
::My bad, consider it fixed.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 11:56, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 12:25, 21 August 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Re-Organization Day ==<br />
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Okay, this conversation has been going on for a while, and now I'm starting to agree with it. We need to find a way to separate KateModern and LG15. The answer: change everything from [[Characters]] to KM:Characters and LG:Characters. Sounds easy, right? Wrong-o. There has to be an easier way to do it. There needs to be some idea that we can do and devote a day to changing links and reorganizing the entire LGPedia. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we gotta do something... fast. The only thing I can suggest thats better is for the tech people at LG15.com to set up another wiki. That'd be the easiest thing to do (and probably most organized) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 21, '07 - 9:25 PM}}<br />
:I'm sorry, I don't really see what you are talking about. There ARE seperate pages for [[KM Characters|KateModern characters]] and [[Characters|Lonelygirl15 characters]]. Why do we need to reorganize the wiki? What's wrong with the way it is now? And yea, we're definitely not getting a new Wiki. I just... don't understand your argument at all! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 01:01, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::I have no idea ''why'' he wants to do this, but the syntax he uses would mean entirely separate ''namespaces'' for LG and KM. (Which would be a re-linking nightmare, and totally useless.)<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 08:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
:::Thats why we SHOULDN'T do that. But there are a lot of other page crossovers where it contains information from both series, and sometimes gets tangled up. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 22 - 2:03 PM}}<br />
::::What pages are you talking about, specifically? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:05, 22 September 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Need help with title! ==<br />
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There's a new KateModern video named "Hymn of One" but I don't know how to make a page that has the same name as a page that already exists - anybody that can help? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 11:54, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
:I used Hymn of One (video) but if there is a better way, please to let me know? -- [[User:Theresa|Theresa]] 12:42, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
::Relax, Theresa, what you did is perfectly fine. :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:49, 3 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== Vandalism ==<br />
I was shocked by the amount of vandalism that is talking place on the lgpedia lately. I just went to recent changes and half of them were banning of vandals/spammers. This is becoming a serious problem, as our hardworking members should not have to constantly ban all these IP addresses when their time could be better spent. I'm opening a discussion on the topic as to find a solution. The floor is open. Any ideas/comments? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 17:45, 22 October 2007 (EST)<br />
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:I'm glad you started the discussion. I'm not really sure what the best solution is this time. Before, when the spamming took the form of external links, we were able to filter those by requiring verification when an external link was added. The only solution I can think of for this problem is to require something similar for every edit that is made. I'm not sure if it'd be possible to restrict that to anonymous users or not, but if so that's a possibility. The obvious downside is that it could become a huge hassle for people trying to edit normally. But maybe there's a creative solution that hasn't occurred to me. Ideas?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 18:30, 22 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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::The current external link verification is already annoying. A general captcha for every edit would be death.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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: Isn't there a way where only people with a username can edit? I know it might sounds dumb, but I think it could relieve a few headaches. Who is xwestsidex or whatever? I dunno who he is. --[[User:Free2liv4evr|free2liv4evr]] 03:22, 23 October 2007 (PST)<br />
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::Yes there is - to set that up, we'd either have to protect each page manually (or, ''they''), or we need the FTP access I requested ''months'' ago. But both options would put off casual, unregistered users. You'd be punishing a large majority of users for the deeds of a small, non-community minority of spammers.<br />
:::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 05:35, 23 October 2007 (CDT)<br />
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:::Requiring a username was brought up a while back, and we decided that it's simply not worth it. As Renegade said, it'd be cutting off a lot of people who would otherwise contribute. When I first started editing, I didn't have a username and I don't think I would have gotten involved if I had had to register right away. Besides, being a place that ''anyone'' can edit is somewhat of a cardinal rules of wikis in general. Oh, and xwestsidex is a vandal from a while ago who pops his pathetic head in every once in a while to cause what he thinks is mischief. Suffice it to say that anything from xwestsidex won't really make sense and can probably be reverted.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 11:36, 23 October 2007 (CDT)</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=My_Hand_Hurts&diff=80555My Hand Hurts2007-10-25T08:56:51Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Blog<br />
| name = My Hand Hurts<br />
| number = 0150<br />
| image = 150jonashandhurts.JPG<br />
| caption = Hooray for painkillers.<br />
| blogger = Jonas<br />
| date = March 10th, 2007<br />
| url = {{lg15|204}}<br />
| forumid = 7325<br />
| length = 2:24<br />
| description = The vet actually did a pretty good job... but it hurts like hell. Now that I have some time, I'm looking through some things I found in my Aunt's office. -Jonas<br />
| location = [[Alex's house]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|hand|cut|screwdriver|vet|bree|dog}}<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Miles Beckett<br />
| camera = Miles Beckett<br />
| vidplay = Glenn Rubenstein<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Glenn Rubenstein<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = <br />
| cast = <br />
{{VidChar|Jonas}} <br />
| Previous = Flesh Wound<br />
| Next = Aunt Alex<br />
| PreviousB = Proving Bree Wrong<br />
| NextB = Uncle Dan<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
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(''Jonas is sitting in his aunt's office.'')<br />
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'''Jonas:''' Man, uh...(''holds up hand with bandage'') Yesterday. Kind of embarrassing, but I think I was just venting about a lot of other stuff. So uh, hooray for painkillers (''Laughs''). Actually, I've been kinda taking it easy on the painkillers cause I'm trying to make sense of a lot of stuff and I haven't really slept either. So I've been going through my aunts office and looking through some of the stuff. I wish my aunt was here, actually. I â I miss her; I haven't seen her since I was like... thirteen? Things got kind of awkward after, uh, my parents were gone. You know, I think that she just didn't know what to say. I mean, really, what do you say? Well, the good news is is that things are... starting to come together. I found this scrapbook, and it's filled with articles about my parents. There's stuff in here about, uh, the foundation they were starting, stuff about, well, when their boat went missing, and then there's, one, uh, article about when the search was called off. But the thing is is that the stuff about my parents is just scratching the surface. I mean, that's just the beginning. There are articles in here about all these other people. And I know this is going to sound a little out there, but hang with me for a second. Check this out. Articles in here about a human rights lawyer, an economics professor, a rabbi, an ambassador, publishing heiress, some guy that owned, a, uh, a radio station, a regenative medical specialist--sounds important. Uh, there's even a former CIA director in here. I realized something. The initials that were CCed on the mission statement that my father wrote, every pair matches somebody's name found in this scrapbook, apparently. And, uh, along with that is also an article about each and every one of their deaths or disappearances under mysterious circumstances. Coincidence? I don't think so. Well, I don't know, whatever my parents and friends were doing against the Order, somebody noticed. Thank God my aunt was smart enough to compile the evidence and put it in a scrapbook. I know you might be thinking that, you know, why didn't my aunt do anything? But, I mean, she wasn't much older than me at that time and everyone that she knew, my parents, everyone was disappearing. She was probably scared. I would have been too. Anyway, side note, uh, I think with me and Bree...we just need our space before things are going to go back to normal, if it ever does. I'm gonna go upload this video, and I'm gonna try to get in touch with my aunt, so, uh, ah, see ya.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
*The radio station is possibly a reference to the 707clique's videos, with the radio towers, and his "KSRA" remarks.</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Warwalking&diff=80530Warwalking2007-10-25T07:55:59Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Blog <br />
| name = Warwalking<br />
| number = 0090<br />
| image = W graph.jpg<br />
| caption = Not happy, Daniel. NOT. HAPPY!<br />
| blogger = Bree<br />
| date = December 4th, 2006<br />
| url = {{lg15|126}}<br />
| forumid = 3690<br />
| length = 2:38<br />
| description = Since we got rid of the car we've been living in a warehouse. We haven't had the money to go to an internet cafe so Daniel's warwalking.<br />
| location = [[The warehouse]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|homeless|warehouse|war|walking|internet|purple|monkey|order|jonas|gas|eats}} <br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Miles Beckett and Mesh Flinders<br />
| camera = Miles Beckett<br />
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = Stay Evil by Mountain Mirrors<br />
| cast =<br />
{{VidChar|Bree}}<br />
{{VidChar|Daniel}}<br />
<br />
<!-- Leave blank after "=" if there are no previous or next blogs --><br />
| Previous = Homeless<br />
| Next = The Anti-Cribs<br />
| PreviousB = Ransacked!<br />
| NextB = Cheer Me Up<br />
}}<br />
{{EpHeader|90}}<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
(''Stay Evil by [http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/mountain-mountain/ Mountain Mirrors] is playing quietly. The screen is black.'')<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' (''voiceover'') After our big argument last week, (''Bree is seen walking from behind.'') Daniel wanted to go home and call the police, but I told him no. (''Daniel is seen [[The warehouse|walking down an alley]]. A black car is parked behind him. A homeless man crosses his path.'') We fought and fought and he finally decided to stay with me since I wouldn't budge. (''A crow is seen near dumpsters.'') I wish that we could go home, I wish that we could call the police, but we can't. (''Bree is seen walking from behind again.'') It's just that...the Order is everywhere. (''The screen turns black. The camera shows Bree, who's walking.'') <br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' Daniel is walking.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Warwalking.<br />
<br />
(''The camera shows Daniel, who is walking beside Bree, with his laptop.'')<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' Right, "warwalking". He's trying to find an open internet connection. What a weird name!<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' It's from the word "wardialing".<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' That...helps.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' It's like that Matthew Broderick movie. With the killer computer? He just kept dialing random numbers 'til he found a live number. He hacked in: "Wardialing".<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' Ahh. Kitty! (''Bree points, a cat is seen. The camera shows the floor of a warehouse. There's a blanket on the floor, and P. Monkey is on top.'') This...is where we're sleeping. We found an abandoned building and we sorta just...holed up here. I don't know what Daniel's plan is. We don't have any money and we had to get rid of the car. I still think that we should go to Jonas's. I really wanna find my p-parents but we can't do that if we're just trying to survive. We...we need a home. (''The screen goes black. A blue symbol is painted on the ground.'') There should be an open internet connection here because I think that's what the symbol means. (''The camera turns up to Bree's head.'') Of course, we could go to a website that has all the open Internet connections in the city, but we kinda have to be online for that first, so it's kind of a Catch-22--<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Damn it. <br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' Don't worry Daniel, we'll find something.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Whatever, Bree. <br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' You don't have to be mean. <br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' If you'd listen to me--<br />
<br />
(''cut to Bree indoors, and against a wall.'')<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' I know that I play with stuffed animals a lot, but, right now, it's the only thing that keeps me happy. What do you think, P. Monkey? Should we trust Jonas? (''P. Monkey scratches his head.'') I know, I'm stumped too. (''Cut to Bree outside.'') We've been dumpster diving. (''We see the inside of a dumpster.'') Here we have some chips in a bag... some Del Taco... (''The camera shows Bree's head.'') Some... crackers. (''Cut to Bree standing near a wall. Daniel is leaning against it, further down the street.'') Daniel doesn't want to talk to me right now. He's kinda mad that we're sleeping in a warehouse. He keeps going on about his warm bed and his job at Gas 'n Eats. He used to hate that job. I mean, I said to him that if we went and stayed with Jonas that we ''would'' have a warm bed and he wouldn't even need the job, but that kind of (''Bree sighs'') pissed him off. He said that we have no reason to trust Jonas, but...<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Got it! I'm online.<br />
<br />
'''Bree:''' I don't think that-- (''Bree looks back at Daniel'') I don't really think that we have a choice. At least we can upload this now.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* The Matthew Broderick movie Daniel [[Pop culture references#References to Movies|talks about]] is {{wikipedia|WarGames}}.<br />
* Wikipedia article on {{wikipedia|Wardriving#Warwalking|Warwalking}}.<br />
* This is the first time any character says [[four-letter words|"damn"]] or [[four-letter words|"pissed"]].<br />
* At approximately 0:05 into the video, a shirtless older man walks through the scene in front of Daniel. During this time period in the series, the silent but ominous [[Watcher|Watchers]] appeared to be following Bree and Daniel all the time. With every video thus being scrutinized for hidden Watchers, some fans dubbed this man the [[Homeless Watcher]]. Similiarly, what appears to be an adult male walking with a child in the far background at 2:31 also drew fanciful speculation of being a Watcher.</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=TAAG&diff=80529TAAG2007-10-25T07:41:35Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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'''BDJ''' or '''BD&J''' is shorthand used to refer to [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]], the main protagonists of the [[lonelygirl15]] story. The trio has also been referred to as the "Teen Angst Adventure Gang" ('''TAAG''') by [[Tachyon]].<br />
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Recently, TAAG has been used to describe the main teenage protaganists of the story, whomever they are at the time.<br />
<br />
'''BDJ''', '''BD&J''' and '''TAAG''' can be found frequently and interchangeably in the Lonelygirl15 forums. <br />
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A similar fan name has been created for KateModern, but it is called the [[K-Team]]<br />
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[[Category:Characters]]</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Aunt_Alex&diff=80524Aunt Alex2007-10-25T06:15:10Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Blog<br />
| name = Aunt Alex<br />
| number = 0151<br />
| image = Jonasaunt.JPG<br />
| caption = If you hit on my aunt, I will go Bree on you.<br />
| blogger = Daniel<br />
| date = March 11th, 2007<br />
| url = {{lg15|205}}<br />
| forumid = 7341<br />
| length = 2:56<br />
| description = We just got back from picking up Jonas' Aunt Alex from the airport. -Daniel<br />
| location = [[Alex's house]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|jonas|jonastko|alex|aunt|airport|car|drive|lipstick|wow}}<br />
<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Mesh Flinders<br />
| camera = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried, and Glenn Rubenstein<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = <br />
| cast = <br />
{{VidChar|Daniel}} <br />
{{VidChar|Jonas}}<br />
{{VidChar|Alex}} <br />
| Previous = My Hand Hurts<br />
| Next = Training Hard<br />
| PreviousB = Beach Bum<br />
| NextB = On The Hot Seat<br />
| PreviousC = <br />
| NextC =<br />
}}<br />
{{One other use|the video|[[Jonas]]'s aunt|Alex}}<br />
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{{EpHeader|151}}<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
(''Daniel and Jonas are in a car driving.'')<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Well, [[Bree]] left.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' (''softly'') "See ya."<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' So, anyways, we're on our way to the airport right now to pick up Jonas's aunt. And, uh, Bree decided to go hang out with Tachyon. Yeah, I'm sure that's the only reason she left though, to hang out with Tachyon. You think? Yeah maybe? Just.. (''Daniel turns the camera towards Jonas.'')<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' What?<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Tell everyone out here what you asked her before she left.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' No, that was just a thing. I'm not gonna--<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' No, tell us. It was a, a joke right?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Yeah, of course it was a joke.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Well, then tell us.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' No.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Why, why not? You think it was just a little bit messed up?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Ok, ok, I'll tell you.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' All right, cool.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' It was really innocent, she way overreacted, but I said, uh, this thing that my mom used to tell me. She would say, Jonas, would you rather, uh, be dumber than you look or look dumber than you are? And I would say, well, I'd rather look dumber than I am. And she'd say, are you sure that's possible? (''Daniel laughs.'') See, innocent.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Well, let's put it like this (''Daniel turns the camera towards himself.''). He said that to Bree. Bree, like as in the brain child, Bree. (''in a high pitched voice'') I'm-so-smart Bree. (''normally'') Yeah, Bree. Bree. It was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. Within two hours she was all packed up and ready for Tachyon to pick her up. What do you think they're doing? (''Daniel turns the camera towards Jonas.'')<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Talking about ways to kill me. (''Daniel laughs''). Oh, listen, uh, before we pick up my aunt, uh...I don't know how kosher she's gonna be with the whole B&E I pulled in her office thing today.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Are you serious?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Yeah....<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Now he tells us.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' It'll be fine. It's--I'm pretty sure.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' You sure? Then why'd you replace the lock? (''laughs'') Are you gonna tell her about the stuff you found?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' I don't know.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' How do you tell her without telling her that you broke into her office?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Yeah, good point.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' What are you gonna tell her about your hand?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Ah, I don't think I'm gonna--<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' It's a conundrum.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Yes, Daniel-san, it is a conundrum. (''Daniel laughs.'')<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' She's divorced, right? Did she ever like, re-marry?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Daniel, Daniel.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' What, dude?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Listen to me.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' I'm not saying anything.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Listen to me, do not hit--<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' I'm not saying--All I'm saying is--<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Do not hit on my aunt. If you hit on my aunt, I will go Bree on you.<br />
<br />
(''Jonas's aunt gets in the car.'')<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' All right.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' All right.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Say hi to the camera.<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' Hi.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe, maybe tell us a little something about Rome.<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' Is he serious?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Mmhmm, but just ignore him.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Whatever, dude.<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' Oh my God, what happened to your hand?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Oh, um, nothing, I just, I, I cut it in the kitchen. I was making salad--<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' Are you ok?<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' It's a long story. Yeah, I'm good though.<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' Don't get near knives.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' So--<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' I've been telling you that since you were ten.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Do you have a boyfriend? (''Alex laughs'')<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Daniel.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' Well, I'm just wondering.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Daniel, you wanna walk?<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' I...<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Do you want to walk?<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' ...don't have time for a boyfriend.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' You don't have time for a boyfriend?<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' No... sorry.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Just take it easy.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' I'm being nice.<br />
<br />
'''Jonas:''' Play it cool.<br />
<br />
'''Alex:''' It's ok.<br />
<br />
'''Daniel:''' I'm totally cool, ask her. I'm cool right? (''Alex nods.'') See, she thinks I'm cool. (''Jonas shakes his head.'')<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* Starting with this video, we know that Bree left Jonas's aunt's house with [[Tachyon]].<br />
* There was much speculation about the identity of the actress who plays [[Alex|Jonas's aunt]]. Some said it was [[Amy Aitken]], Kim Argetsinger, or a woman named Leigh. It was quickly revealed that [[Bitsie Tulloch]] is the actress playing Aunt Alex. This was the first time that [[Liza Weil]] was not suspected of being the actress.<br />
* B&E refers to "Breaking and Entering", a [[Crime Report|crime]] which has been perpetrated at least twice in the series. [[Breaking And Entering]] is also the title of one of Daniel's blogs.<br />
*''Landmark NuWilshire Theatre'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1314+Wilshire+Blvd.,+Santa+Monica,+CA+90403&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.426353,59.765625&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.026948,-118.489673&spn=0.00802,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr], ''Living Torah Center'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=living+torah+center&near=santa+monica,+ca&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=34.027695,-118.48918&spn=0.016041,0.029182&om=1&iwloc=A], ''Farrah's Florist'' [http://www.google.com/maps?q=1032+Wilshire+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA+90401&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.024796,-118.492334&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr], ''Banner Carpets & Drapes'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=734+Santa+Monica+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.021933,-118.491411&sspn=0.016042,0.029182&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.019835,-118.492012&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr&layer=t] and ''Toyota Santa Monica'' [http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=734+Santa+Monica+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.021933,-118.491411&sspn=0.016042,0.029182&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=34.019835,-118.492012&spn=0.008021,0.021629&om=1&iwloc=addr&layer=t] (respectively) and can be seen in the background. All are located in Santa Monica, California.</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Carly_Jones&diff=80523Carly Jones2007-10-25T06:15:00Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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erlipas<br />
{{Crew<br />
| name = Carly Jones<br />
| image = Carly_forreal.jpg<br />
| age = 24<br />
| birthday = <br />
| myspace = carlyaj<br />
| IMDB = <br />
| character = [[Mallory]]<br />
| wikipedia = <br />
| execprod =<br />
| producer =<br />
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| story =<br />
| editor =<br />
| camera =<br />
| color = slategray<br />
}}<br />
'''Carly Jones''' is the actress who plays [[Mallory]] in the [[lonelygirl15]] web series. She has been to 11 countries and knows how to dance and use power tools. She is 5'8" and weighs 120 pounds.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Carly Jones2.jpg|thumb|left|125px|From her official website.]]<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.carlyjones.com/ Carly Jones's Official Website]<br />
*[http://www.dfwactors.com/447.htm Talent Profile]<br />
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{{CrewIndex}}<br />
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[[Category:Actors]]</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Gemma,_Who_Are_You%3F&diff=80521Gemma, Who Are You?2007-10-25T06:13:18Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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<div>chipaselorva<br />
{{Blog <br />
| name = Gemma, Who Are You?<br />
| number = 0097<br />
| image = 0097-DanielInCloseUp.jpg<br />
| caption = These people are everywhere.<br />
| blogger = Daniel<br />
| date = December 13th, 2006<br />
| url = {{lg15|133}}<br />
| forumid = 4036<br />
| length = 0:54<br />
| description = I just saw Jonas's video... and I'm speechless.<br />
| location = [[Daniel's bedroom]]<br />
| tags = {{tags|LG15|lonelygirl15|daniel|danielbeast|gemma|gemmers19|jonas|jonastko|speechless|order|london|tachyon}}<br />
<br />
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| execprod = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| producers = Amanda Goodfried<br />
| directors = Mesh Flinders and Miles Beckett<br />
| camera = <br />
| vidplay = Mesh Flinders<br />
| story = Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, and Greg Goodfried<br />
| editor = Kevin Schlanser<br />
| song = <br />
| cast =<br />
{{VidChar|Daniel|Yousef Abu-Taleb}}<br />
<!-- Leave blank after "=" if there are no previous or next blogs --><br />
| Previous = Tough Cookie<br />
| Next = Cheer Me Up<br />
| PreviousB = Back Home<br />
| NextB = Back At Bree's<br />
}}<br />
{{EpHeader|97}}<br />
<br />
==Transcript==<br />
'''Daniel:''' Okay, I just saw [[Jonas|Jonas's]] last video. [[Gemma]] was somebody that we trusted. I--I can't believe she would be a plant or...whatever she is. We took so much of her advice over the past few months. Now we don't even know who she is. I guess she works for [[the Order]] or...something, but I have no idea what she wanted. It just (''sigh'') I don't know what to think. I came home because of her advice. These people are everywhere. [[Bree]], I...can't imagine how you must feel. I'm so sorry I left. I feel so powerless from here. I was thinking about what I can do from here. I dunno, the only thing I came up with was going back to [[Bree's house|your house]]. I know last time we were there, we left in such a hurry... I dunno, maybe we missed something. Anyway, Bree, sit tight. Don't do anything 'till I get in contact with you. I'm gonna figure this out.<br />
<br />
==Notes==</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Category:Videos_edited_by_Kevin_Schlanser&diff=80518Category:Videos edited by Kevin Schlanser2007-10-25T06:12:24Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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<div>eldomgetdo<br />
[[Kevin Schlanser]] edited the following videos.<br />
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[[Category:Videos by editor]]<br />
[[Category:Kevin Schlanser credits]]</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Gemma&diff=80507Gemma2007-10-25T05:44:25Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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{{Person<br />
| name = Gemma<br />
| image = Gemma and wilted rose.jpg<br />
| age = 20<br />
| birthday = April(?) 1987<br />
| youtube = gemmers19<br />
| revver = gemmers19<br />
| myspace = gemmers_19 <br />
| actor = [[Jackie Jandrell]]<br />
| first = [[Nut Kills Man]]<br />
| last = [[lonelygirl15 Season 1 Recap]]<br />
| color = CornflowerBlue<br />
}}<br />
==Plot Background==<br />
'''Gemma''' a.k.a. '''gemmers19''' was a friend of [[Bree]]'s from when she lived in Nottinghamshire (UK). Bree was particularly good friends with Gemma's dog, as revealed in [[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]]. Since Bree was 12 at the time, and Gemma 15, it is not surprising that they would not be in the same peer group.<br />
<br />
Gemma posted 13 vlogs between October 19 and December 6, 2006.<br />
<br />
Her first two vlogsâ[[Nut Kills Man]] and [[Living In London]]âwere posted as response videos to Bree, with no mention made as to whether Gemma was a real character in the series. Many fans suspected that she was canon from the start, and in Bree's [[Hi Gemma!]] she was confirmed.<br />
<br />
Gemma's parents are members of [[Bree's religion]], but Gemma tells Bree that she had decided to leave the commune and live on her own in [[Gemma's flat|London]].<br />
Gemma's mother and [[Bree's parents#Mother|Bree's mother]] met at University, after Bree's mother passionately debated in a class discussion revolving around philosopher [[David Hume]]. Gemma also taught Bree a game called "Nut Kills Man", a fictional, allegedly British variation of "Rock, Paper, Scissors."<br />
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Gemma has made [[:Category:Gemma's blogs|several videos]] talking about her life in London. Fans speculate that Gemma's monologues about her life in London are [[Double talk|coded]] commentary/advice for Bree's situation. She has given Bree advice about her situation toward her religion. Gemma has said it's hard for her to live away from the community.<br />
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In [[Learning Egyptian]], Gemma claims that Bree's religion is not a [[Thelema|Thelemic religion]] at all but a secret society called [[the Order]].<br />
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The videos supposedly show [[Gemma's flat]].<br />
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==Revelations of Order Involvement==<br />
[[Image:Hackedgemma.jpg|thumb|Gemma's YouTube profile image after her account is hacked by Brother and Tachyon.]]The release of [[Tachyon]] videos [[Gemma? (Part I)|Gemma? [Part I]]] and [[Gemma? (Part II)|Gemma? [Part II]]] revealed to fans that Gemma was in Southern California and that she was interacting with [[Lucy]]. The videos were taken to be a message that Gemma was affiliated with the Order and likely working against Bree's interests. Many fans were reluctant to believe that Gemma had been a part of the Order all along, and wondered whether the Order had caught her sometime after the [[Scared To Go Home]] video. If that was the case, then some of Gemma's earlier advice might have been in good faith.<br />
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However, Tachyon's [[Gemma? (Part III)|Gemma? [Part III]]] showed that the location of Scared To Go Home was actually Southern California. In this video, Gemma is also filmed at a payphone saying "Are you sure the 'D' in APHID is not an option?" Clearly, Gemma was even more deeply involved than previously thought, although it is unclear whom it is that she is working with. From what was shown of her phone conversation, it seems she works with [[OpAphid]]. Whether OpAphid is the Order or a part of it is still unknown. The Tachyon videos were very damaging to Gemma's credibility. All the information and advice that came from Gemma is suspect, as it is very possible that she was working with OpAphid since she first started posting videos.<br />
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On January 8th, 2007, Tachyon and [[Brother]] jacked Gemma's YouTube account, adding slightly altered versions of Tachyon and Brother's five Gemma videos, and changing the profile to<br />
<pre>Greetings and salutations!<br />
<br />
It's time you all knew the truth about Gemma.<br />
<br />
xoxox,<br />
<br />
T<br />
<br />
P.S. I assume it'll take him awhile, but if you're reading this then my <br />
"brother" 10033 has successfully taken control of this account on my behalf.<br />
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P.P.S. For more information about and OpAphid, check out our <br />
videos here under Tachyon and 10033. </pre><br />
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==Death==<br />
In the video [[Gemma (Part V)]], it appears that [[Brother]] aims a gun at Gemma, possibly in an attempt to kill her. Her death appears to be confirmed in the OpAphid video [[The Ends Justify The Means]], where a message in braille appears that angrams to "RIP Gemma." Like [[Bree's parents#father|Bree's dad]], her death appears to have taken place on Dec. 31st, 2006.<br />
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At an ARG-fest in Texas, the Creators were asked about whether or not Gemma was really dead. The answer made a reference to how she was in "Brother's crosshairs" and how that wouldn't be a nice place to be and went on to say that she is "gone". They didn't rule out her coming back one day but they seemed to conclusively state that for the foreseeable future we have seen the end of Gemma.<br />
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==Etymology==<br />
The English name ''Gemma'' comes from the Italian name Gemma, which derives from Latin ''gemma'', meaning "jewel."<br />
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Gemma is also one of two names for the star Alpha Coronae Borealis (also known as Alphecca). Its name Gemma derives from the star's central placement in the constellation Corona Borealis (the Northern Crown). This connection raises possible links to Bree's fascination with astronomy and to the connections between Bree's religion and astrology (see [[Denderah]]).<br />
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==List of Videos==<br />
*[[Nut Kills Man]]<br />
*[[Living In London]]<br />
*[[It's Not Your Decision]]<br />
*[[They Disappeared...]]<br />
*[[Horrid Flatmates]]<br />
*[[Learning Egyptian]]<br />
*[[Don't Trust The Authorities]]<br />
*[[Someone's Following You]]<br />
*[[A Watcher]]<br />
*[[An Awkward Silence]]<br />
*[[Scared To Go Home]]<br />
*[[Daniel Is Right]]<br />
*[[Bad Decisions]]<br />
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[[Category:Seen characters]]</div>202.70.201.34http://192.168.12.222/lgpedia/index.php?title=Please_Help&diff=80506Please Help2007-10-25T05:44:10Z<p>202.70.201.34: </p>
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| date = October 3rd, 2007<br />
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| forumid = 14337<br />
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| description = As I'm sure you can all imagine, Daniel's ninja film didn't go over so well with his professor. We need your help to make a better version by Friday morning. Pretty please. :)<br />
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| Previous = That Arrogant Jerk!<br />
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==Transcript==<br />
(''The camera moves towards Sarah's room. At the doorway, we can see that Sarah is laughing at something on her laptop.'')<br />
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'''Mallory:''' So, are you still watching it?<br />
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'''Daniel as Ben on Laptop:''' Ah! Ninjas?<br />
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'''Mallory as Cheerleader on Laptop:''' Ninjas??<br />
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(''Sarah continues laughing.'')<br />
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'''Mallory:''' Um, I guess that's a yes.<br />
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(''The camera moves to the next room as Sarah continues laughing.'')<br />
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'''Mallory:''' [[Mr. Banks]] is ready to fail him on the spot. And since Daniel wasn't there, I had to beg him not to. He said that Daniel needs to commit to film-making, or just quit wasting his time. I guess I can kinda see where he's coming from. But, I convinced Mr. Banks to give Daniel a second chance. So, he's going to let him re-edit his film--but he only has until Friday. Look, Daniel and Jonas are out playing spies. So, there's no way they're going to be back in time to re-edit this film. Luckily, this is considered a "group" project. So...I was hoping, that maybe you guys can help? I'm going to post the original video on lonelygirl15.com, and you guys can create your own re-edits of Daniel's film. I'll post all the guide lines for the assignment in the forum. And Sarah and I will pick out the best video to turn in to Mr. Banks on Friday. Also, we'll be posting the winning video on the lonelygirl15 account. I just wanna say thanks in advance for helping us out. Daniel and I really appreciate it.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*This video confirms that Jonas has stopped sulking, and that Daniel and Jonas have picked up the search for Emma.<br />
*It appears that Sarah and Mallory are on better terms than the previous episodes.<br />
*The forum post with the link to the original footage is [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=14336 here].<br />
* This video was uploaded to the soccerstar4ever YouTube account.<br />
*A large number of responses/remixes has been made to this video, many of them embedded on [http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007_09_30_archive.html LG15 Today]. <br />
**The contest winner was [[Ninja Video by ElizKM86]].<br />
**According to the description of [[Ninja Video by ElizKM86]], a total of 43 entries was submitted.</div>202.70.201.34