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Jonas Conference Call

2008-01-24T21:43:04Z

128.187.0.178: /* Transcript */

In [[Playing Doctor]] (Dec. 3, 2007), [[Jonas]] stated that he wanted people's thoughts on how to bring [[the Order]] down, and wanted to talk on the phone will people about it. On December 13, 2007, at 7pm PST, Jonas conducted a conference call with fans.

It was revealed during the call that [[Emma]] had been receiving double-doses of the serum to turn her trait negative from her parents, which was making her sick.

[[Jonas]] also mentioned that he wanted to concentrate on bringing down the [[Lullaby Project]] at the moment. That this was probably the weakest link, and that he wanted to start fighting the Order in the form of the Lullaby Project.

We also learned that [[Charlie]] of [[KateModern]] had been in contact with Jonas.

The call ended after [[Virgil]] somehow hacked into the call.

The audio of the conference call was made available on the forum two days after the call: [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=15357 Forum thread with download link]

==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' Oh, I'm--Definitely. Here's a shout-out to everyone who's doing this. I-I really appreciate everybody's help who's on chat, who's calling in. Um, you guys are awesome. And uh--

'''Broken Kid:''' So--On that note, why don't we, uh, why don't we get started? Uh...I think hopefulsemblance had the-the first question we're going to ask you, Jonas, about, um, finding some-some altered trait-positives.

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Thanks, BK. Um, hey, Jonas, how are you?

'''Jonas:''' Hey, what's going on?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Um, how are you guys planning on finding and treating the altered trait-positives? And is there anything that we can do to help?

'''Jonas:''' Well, I mean as-as far as we know, I guess, um, I don't think there's any other living altered trait-positives that are out there. You know what I mean? I mean, Gina was really the only one that [[Dr. Hart]] had ever known that lived to be that close to being an adult. Um, but, I guess, you know, if-if they were out there, if there were any, I mean we'd want to help them. Absolutely. But I think too-I think too this is kind of limited in a way. You know what I mean? Because trying to save just one girl at a time I think is the best thing to do. You know, in-instead of doing that, we just want to shut down the [[Lullaby Project]]. We wanna close [[Verdus]], um, and you know that's just the approach we're taking. If anyone has any better ideas, I mean that's what this is all about. I'd love to know. So, I guess-I guess we don't know about any, uh, altered. It's also been our policy--we want to help people. But we really think the best way to do it is to take these people down. Hit 'em where it hurts, you know?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Cool.

'''Jonas:''' Do you have any ideas though? Anything? That we could do differently?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' I can't really think of anything.

'''Jonas:''' Oh.

'''Broken Kid:''' You-you also had a question, hopeful, about, uh, the Ceremony girls, right?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Yeah, Jonas. Like, have you guys just given up or is it on the back burner to rescue all the Ceremony girls?

'''Jonas:''' No, no, no, no. It's not on the back burner. Um, it's hard to put it--I guess I'll put it this way. We will help people when we find them, but we think that the best thing to do is to cut this off at the head. Um, I think going after Ceremony girls at this point might-might hurt them more than help them. Because I'm afraid that we might lead them, [[the Order]] I mean, we might lead the Order to these girls accidentally. That's just our fear. I mean, we haven't had much luck with that in the past, so....

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Right.

'''Jonas:''' You know, thanks, and I mean, what do you think? What do you think? Do you think that's a good idea? I mean, I don't know, it's frustrating to us because we want to go out there and we want and we want to find these girls, um, but it's a double-edged sword. I mean, I don't know what's right? The chicken or the egg? Are we bringing bad guys to these girls, or are we doing the right thing? (''pauses'') You know?

'''caalan21:''' Hey Jonas, this is caalan. I think that for the most part you guys are going about it pretty much the right way. Even if you find all these girls, how are you really going to protect them all from the Order? You remember how hard it was to keep Bree away from them, or Emma. How are you gonna do it when you have ten, fifteen, twenty girls under your skirts?

'''Jonas:''' Exactly, that's what I'm thinking too.

'''Broken Kid:''' Well, uh, Chipper, you had a question about, um, about Dr. Hart and, uh, Bree you were gonna ask.

'''Chippercat:''' Yeah, um, actually, according to the recorded call we had heard between [[Drew Avery]] and [[Isaac Gilman]], Bree was only one injection away from being made permanently trait negative. But she never developed any of the same symptoms or the illnesses as Emma and the other girls. So, I'm just curious. You guys have Drew Avery's notes from the Camp Play box, and the box that you guys found at the boat dock. Have you all shared any of these research notes with Dr. Hart and, if so, what are his thoughts on it?

'''Jonas:''' Well, we have. I mean, that's a really good question, um, first of all. And we have. Um, it's difficult to talk about right now because, again, I'm not sure how secure everything is here. Uh, but, and again it's hard for me as well because I don't speak doctor-talk. It's really hard for me. (''laughing'') Uh, but here's what I remember. And here's what I got from it. That, um, that I guess Emma was given these-these injections right, and I guess she was given double-dosage. Which Bree was only getting from her dad, who knew what he was doing, was giving a smaller amount--the right level of the dosage. Im, and so, because Emma was getting a double-dosage to begin with and her parents didn't really know what they were doing, I think--I suspect anyway--that they were giving her more of the shots than she was supposed to get because they wanted to hurry up to get her to be trait negative. Um, so-so that was why she went through those--the sickness and she had the--yeah, she went through the series of injections twice. So, that's why she was sick and Bree wasn't.

'''Chippercat:''' Okay, so it wasn't just...

'''Jonas:''' It's hard for me to do the science talk, but that's what I got out of what he said. And-and as far as if we've shared the information with Dr. Hart, um, yeah, of course we have. Cause he's our go-to guy right now. He's all we really have, and we-we trust him. At first it was like we had to trust him, but now I really--I trust him. And why wouldn't we share everything we have with this guy? That's all we have.

'''Chippercat:''' Right. Absolutely. Now, I think there was a lot of confusion. You know, people didn't understand because we had heard [that] the other girls who were manufactured trait positive and as they turned trait negative they showed these symptoms. So, we thought it had something to do with just the changing from one trait to the next. So, that-that clears up a lot. Thank you very much.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. And, I guess that does have something to-to do with it. Uh, it-it--But-but, mainly, the reason with the difference is just because of the dosage. Like the people giving Emma her dosage didn't know what they were doing, um, I guess. And that's what--I hope I explained that well enough, 'cause I know these-the technical stuff, like I said: not my thing. But, um, that's an awesome question. Thank you. Um, I appreciate it.

'''Chippercat:''' You did great. Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' That actually leads really well into, uh, a question that P.MONKEYgetsFUNKY had. And I don't know if she's gotten on yet. P.MONKEY, are you there?

(''pause'')

'''Jonas:''' P.MONKEY?

'''Broken Kid:''' Okay, I think I may have messed up when sending her--I may have misspelled her user name when I sent out that last second email. Um, but I know-I know what her question was. She wanted to ask about...You know you mentioned that you guys trust Dr. Hart. And she was basically saying, "why?" 'Cause, the last time somebody was trying to, uh, to help Emma, she almost got killed. You know? So, why do you guys trust Dr. Hart?

'''Jonas:''' No. I know and trust me: I've-I've had my doubts myself. I've second-guessed. I mean, you know my track record with this sort of thing. Um, but the thing I'm keeping in mind here is that I trust him, a. And, b, I'm not letting her out of my sight. I learned my lesson the last time with the Claire-thing. I-I am not letting her out of my sight.

'''Broken Kid:''' Good.

'''Jonas:''' But, also--

'''Chershaytoute:''' Good boy, Jonas.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. I-at least I learned. I make my mistakes, but I learn. Um, but here's the kicker and here's the thing that really makes me trust this guy: is that Emma trusts him (''children cry'') ...huh. And Emma never trusted Claire. And I should have listened to her because the girl has ''really'' good instincts when it comes to this stuff. Um, and I think that if he'd had wanted to hurt her, I think he could have--he's had his chances. He could have done it at the Verdus lab. Uh, but instead, um, he didn't. He got us--he helped us and, uh, he got us out of there safely. And also: the guy's given up his whole career to help us. And, uh, I just feel like I think we owe him our trust at this point. I think that he's proven--he's done more than anyone could possibly do to prove his worthiness, at least in my eyes. What do you think? I mean, um, I-I trust him. But I also--on the other hand, I also think that everyone should keep their eyes out because we're lost without you guys. Everybody should watch this guy and if you see anything funny--at all, I mean, on any level. If this guy's not-not what you think he should be, or if he's suspicious, I mean, you guys need to let us know that and-and, you know, on the forum or however we can communicate. What do you think? Do you guys-do you trust him?

'''Chippercat:''' He seems trustworthy to me.

'''Jonas:''' You think so?

'''Chippercat:''' So far. So far, so good.

'''caalan21:''' Too many-too many--

'''Jonas:''' Alright. I've been wrong before and I just... (''laugh'') You know? I'm just going as we go here. Day by day. Making this up as we go. So, I think--

'''Chershaytoute:''' I think the day-by-day. That's good.

'''Jonas:''' What was that?

'''Chershaytoute:''' I think the day-by-day idea is a good one.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah

'''Chershaytoute:''' Little bits at a time... and being watchful.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, I think it's important to... 'Cause I have a problem with trusting people. Really, uh, I've either not trusted the right person or trusted the right-the wrong person. You know what I mean? I've-I just-I'm constantly trusting the wrong person. So, uh, I need your help.

'''Broken Kid:''' So, I think, you know, you talked about Dr. Hart a little bit and, uh, you know, trusting him. Uh, JustAnotherLonelyGirl is going to ask what do you think about him-about him and Bree.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah, uh, hi this is JustAnotherLonelyGirl. Um, but, actually, you can call me Loretta if you want. Um, yeah. Um, well, my question actually resembles a lot what, um, someone said before--I forget who--about Bree and about how, um, how when she was turning trait negative she didn't exhibit any of the symptoms. Um, I didn't totally understand how you explained. Why? Can you just re-explain that?

'''Jonas:''' Okay. She didn't show the symptoms and--again: this is to the best of my understanding. I could be wrong. But, she didn't show the symptoms because her dad knew what he was doing when he gave her the trait negative injections. He gave 'em to her slow enough, um, in a low enough dosage that it didn't have an ill effect on her. Almost like an overdose. Like, Emma was given way too much. She went through it twice. She went through two series of sets of-of shots. And not only that. When she was given to my parents, under their care, we think that they gave her way too much of a dosage because they wanted to essentially hurry up to get her trait negative.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Um, okay. Alright, that clears a lot--

'''Jonas:''' Does that make sense?

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah, that does. Um, have you talked to Dr Hart about, um, Bree's dad though? I mean, he knew Dr. Gillman. Did he know her dad at all?

'''Jonas:''' I'm sorry. I didn't hear that. What was that?

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Um, Dr. Hart said that he worked under Dr. Gillman. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' So--and Dr. Gillman knew Bree's father. Did, um, Dr. Hart ever run into him?

'''Jonas:''' No, as far as I-I have asked him that and he said no, I think. U, I'm pretty sure.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Okay. Um, well, basically, my question is a lot like, um, the other person before. Uh, first of all, I really-I really think that we should go back and review what was done differently with Bree. Which obviously had to do with the dosage.

'''Jonas:''' Right.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' But, another thing is--uh, two other things. She was on iron pills.
And I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with it, 'cause I don't speak science either, but, um, she was on iron pills and she was taking something like epogen or something. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Right. Yeah.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' So, I don't know if Dr. Hart could look into that and maybe figure out if that had anything to do with--'cause I think that we need to find a way to make trait positive girls trait negative, 'cause, obviously, that would make them useless to the Order. But we need to find a way to do it without hurting them.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? Actually I've-he has talked about that. Um, he is looking into that. Um, it's weird you said that because he is looking into that.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. I think you actually have to look into that and look back at the notebook from, um, from Bree's dad. And also, one other thing I had to ask was, um, the serum that you've been giving Emma and that--I don't know if you've been, um, keeping up with. But there's, like, an extension of the Order in the U.K. and, um, [[Spencer]] actually contacted a girl named [[Charlie]] in the U.K. and sent her some of the serum that he had left over. And, um, I'm not sure if that serum is the same serum that had Bree's blood in it. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Um... I think-I think so.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. 'Cause I don't know if it would be possible to, like, separate it or anything. But maybe Dr. Hart could also use that to kinda test Bree's blood and to find if there's something different about Bree's blood that was helping her. 'Cause obviously she never caught the illness. So...

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, that's a great-that's a great suggestion. I'm definitely gonna look into that.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. And maybe Spencer has some of that left over he could send to you also or something if you don't have. 'Cause obviously Emma's parents aren't going to be helpful. (''laughs'') So, um, yeah. I think maybe--

'''Jonas:''' I think that's a great idea. Yeah, I think you're on to-yeah, I think you're on to something. I think something like an avenue we definately need to check out.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' So, I think EricaRocks has a question too about--I'm sorry. I'm just gonna kinda keep things glowing here. I know Jonas doesn't have a lot of time. You wanted to talk a little about they're-uh, what they're doing right now.

'''EricaRocks:''' My question is--this is EricaRocks. My question is kinda general. Uh, more like why is everyone staying in the same place? Aren't you worried that maybe the Order might find out where you are? I mean, [[Sonia]] found out where you were. Anyone can find you.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, no. That's a-that's a-I mean, great point. That's something I've thought a lot, especially recently. Um, and I'm thinking about talking to the doctor about it. Um, Dr. Hart--you know, I think that... I don't know. I think that... I-how do I put? We've got something in the works right now. Something that we're planning. And I can't really talk about it yet. Um, but I think you're right. I think-I think you're absolutely right. We should-we should probably think about splitting up and maybe going underground for awhile. You know?

'''ErikaRocks:''' Kay.

'''Jonas:''' 'Cause it's just too dangerous to stay. I mean, we have to learn from the past. Right?

'''EricaRocks:''' Right. And the runnings aren't always fun. (''laughs'')

'''Jonas:''' What's that?

'''EricaRocks:''' The running's not always the fun thing.

'''Jonas:''' No, I know. It's not, but sometimes, I guess, it's necessary.

'''EricaRocks:''' But, maybe, you know, just moving around a little.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. I wish we could just find a permanent place to hide where they wouldn't find us. You know? It'd make things easier.

'''Broken Kid:''' I think to that point, too, harmony had a question about, you know, your guys' biggest concern.

'''Jonas:''' What-what's our biggest concern?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah. Basically I'm just wondering, like, what do you think is pretty much your biggest threat when it comes down to the Order, or in that regard. Also, what's your biggest opportunity to get to them. Like, what's their weakest point and what's their biggest threat to you as well?

'''Jonas:''' Well, yeah. Uh, I-I think the thing that's most important to me and the thing I'm most worried about is-is Emma. You know? She's family. Um, and now-especially now because she's gonna stay trait positive. They could-they could really come after her at any time. Um, so, that makes me nervous. So, that's always going to be my number one, uh, thing is just to keep her safe.

'''harmony99:''' For sure.

'''Jonas:''' But, in terms of the big picture, I mean, that's what you're talking about: the big picture--the Order. I think, me personally, and, correct me, I mean, if you don't agree with this-- this why we're here: to tell me. But, I think that any time the Order has a public face, we should smear dirt on it. You know what I'm saying?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah!

'''Jonas:''' Like Verdus, like the [[Lullaby Project]]. All these-all these-these fronts that they have. Um, because they're operating in total secret. Nobody knows about them; nobody believes that they're controlling things except for us. Which is frustrating. You know? I mean, it's so obvious. Nobody believes us. Which is why I think that we should stay focused on-on taking those people down right now. The Lullaby Project, Verdus. You know, hit them where it hurts. Thats that.

'''harmony99:''' Yeah. The thing is, though, is it's one big organization. Like, three different faces and, I mean, you have to concentrate your efforts on one thing at a time if you [try to shut down one of it's factions?] you're not going to be as effective as if you try to shut one thing and it-you try to shut one thing down at a time, right? So, in that sense what is their weakest point? Is it Verdus? Is it the Wyman foundation, or Hymn of One, or the Lullaby Project in specific?

'''Jonas:''' I personally think the Lullaby Project and Verdus. I think that's their weak point right now.

'''harmony99:''' Mhm.

'''Jonas:''' And I that's who I want to go after.

'''harmony99:''' Right.

'''Jonas:''' And I wish I could say more right now. But, um, but.

'''harmony99:''' You got something. (''laughs'')

'''Jonas:''' Yes. I-I think so. So, um, I really think that's their weak point. And, if we can bring one of those down-I think it's like the mother ship going down, you know? Everything just starts to crumble.

'''harmony99:''' Exactly.

'''Jonas:''' You know?

'''harmony99:''' Exactly.

'''Jonas:''' We just figure out who is right; we just go after one. We just focus our energy on one thing. It feels like-it feels like we're so pulled in so many different directions. You know? All these girls that are out there. Trait positive, trait negative, all these companies. It's overwhelming sometimes. You know?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah.

'''Jonas:''' You're absolutely right. Just go after one.

'''harmony99:''' Cool. So, I guess--

'''Broken Kid:''' You know, I think-I think--

(''pause'')

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, well--

'''harmony99:''' It's alright. I'm just saying, while you--

'''Jonas:''' Go ahead.

'''harmony99:''' Well, we're gonna have to focus more on trying to find more weaknesses for them. Because, as of yet, there hasn't been really anything that I can pinpoint saying, "Well, you know, this is somewhere we can infiltrate." You know what I mean?

'''Jonas:''' I couldn't hear that. I'm sorry.

'''harmony99:''' Oh, sorry! Is the mic breaking up or something? Or...?

'''Jonas:''' No, you're fine now. I think it was just my phone maybe.

'''harmony99:''' Uh, alright. Cool. I was just saying that so far we haven't really found a weakness for the Lullaby Project, I mean, that we can pinpoint to saying, "Well, you know, this is where we can infiltrate." And it seems like we need to do research more and find a way to get in and get some more info. Whether Sarah can do that or not. Sort of a... big concern

'''Jonas:''' Well, yeah. The Sarah thing is a big concern. Um, but I feel like...I feel like we have some things in the works that I can't really, uh, that I can't really say right now, because it's not firmed up. But I feel like-- But I see a crack in the wall. Uh, I'm really [[[something]]], trust me.

'''harmony99:''' Uh, okay. Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' Uh, I think that, uh, HeartofSorrow wanted to talk to you a little bit about your, uh, techniques of your-your stealth and infiltrations.

(''laughter'')

'''Jonas:''' Oh, boy. Yeah, my skills, huh?

'''HeartofSorrow:''' Well, it's more like, uh...when you all went to go after Emma when the--those, um, LaRezisto people had her; it's like you guys were staying out too much in the open.

'''Jonas:''' Mmhmm.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' I mean, from the video that I saw, before y'all brought Emma to get out, it was like there was a glass window that you could see in the kitchen and...

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' It was like, right there, he might've passed by and y'all would've been seen and when y'all went into the foyer, it--it was like, one whole--like, one, two sides of it had glass windows seeing right into it and y'all are basically out in the open. (''pause'') And I was thinking, like, "Darn, guys, you gotta...get outside. Cuz if-- (''laughs'') they see you, they're gonna come after you." And--

'''Jonas:''' I know, man. I know, you're absolutely right.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' Right--It's like, uh, I hate to use a video game analogy but...uh, if you're playing [[[something]]]

'''Jonas:''' I've got to be honest with you, I'm not a...you know, I'm not a spy, you know I never...uh, planned on any of this, you know. And it's frustrating-- you're right, you are so right, man. (''pause'') Uh, I haven't been very good at this stuff. Uh, the stealth, the hiding. In fact, I'm gonna be honest, I've been kinda stupid in the past. Um...but I'm learning as I go, man, you know, I'm learning as I go and I'm really-- you know, help us out when you can, you know...when--on the forum, or any time you see us doing something stupid try and bring it to our attention as soon as you can because, uh--yeah. And not that I'm not learning, what I'm doing, you know I feel like we're making progress, you know...Right? Are we--or are we just as bad as we always were?

(''laughter'')

[[[somebody]]]: Well...

'''HeartofSorrow:''' Well, you are getting better, cuz, uh... ('''laughs''') no one got hurt, uh, hurt this time.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, it's true.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' But--

'''Caalan:''' Hey, Jonas, this is caalan, I just wanted to make a real quick comment about that.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''Caalan:''' I mean, for us it's real easy to sit back and say, "These are all the things you did wrong," but we're not doin' it. But, the one thing I've noticed that would definitely point out is: you need a getaway driver, or a lookout. That way someone who's always there, who's got their phone, they can give you a call and say, "Hey, get outta there." Just cuz there's been a few instances where you didn't really have one.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''Caalan:''' And other than that, I mean, it's real easy for us to sit here safe at home and say, "Oh, you shouldn't have done that," but you know, you're the one doin' it.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, I know, I was talking about with learning our lessons. Uh, we did that at Verdus. I think we're, and the techniques we're gonna start using.

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==Notes==
* The conference call had the ability to handle 150 callers. Thirteen callers were picked in advance by Jonas to be able to speak on the conference call, to avoid complete pandemonium. It is not known whether one of those thirteen callers betrayed Jonas and gave their calling information to Virgil.
* The 13 callers were:
:*hopefulsemblance
:*Chippercat
:*P.MONKEYgetsFUNKY
:*JustAnotherLonelyGirl
:*EricaRocks
:*harmony99
:*HeartofSorrow
:*livelovelaugh
:*Chershaytoute
:*caalan21
:*Mowse
:*Jafin
:*hamovbala4ever89

[[Category:Breeniverse events]]

Jonas Conference Call

2008-01-24T21:30:36Z

128.187.0.178: /* Transcript */

In [[Playing Doctor]] (Dec. 3, 2007), [[Jonas]] stated that he wanted people's thoughts on how to bring [[the Order]] down, and wanted to talk on the phone will people about it. On December 13, 2007, at 7pm PST, Jonas conducted a conference call with fans.

It was revealed during the call that [[Emma]] had been receiving double-doses of the serum to turn her trait negative from her parents, which was making her sick.

[[Jonas]] also mentioned that he wanted to concentrate on bringing down the [[Lullaby Project]] at the moment. That this was probably the weakest link, and that he wanted to start fighting the Order in the form of the Lullaby Project.

We also learned that [[Charlie]] of [[KateModern]] had been in contact with Jonas.

The call ended after [[Virgil]] somehow hacked into the call.

The audio of the conference call was made available on the forum two days after the call: [http://www.lg15.com/lonelygirl15/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=15357 Forum thread with download link]

==Transcript==
'''Jonas:''' Oh, I'm--Definitely. Here's a shout-out to everyone who's doing this. I-I really appreciate everybody's help who's on chat, who's calling in. Um, you guys are awesome. And uh--

'''Broken Kid:''' So--On that note, why don't we, uh, why don't we get started? Uh...I think hopefulsemblance had the-the first question we're going to ask you, Jonas, about, um, finding some-some altered trait-positives.

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Thanks, BK. Um, hey, Jonas, how are you?

'''Jonas:''' Hey, what's going on?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Um, how are you guys planning on finding and treating the altered trait-positives? And is there anything that we can do to help?

'''Jonas:''' Well, I mean as-as far as we know, I guess, um, I don't think there's any other living altered trait-positives that are out there. You know what I mean? I mean, Gina was really the only one that [[Dr. Hart]] had ever known that lived to be that close to being an adult. Um, but, I guess, you know, if-if they were out there, if there were any, I mean we'd want to help them. Absolutely. But I think too-I think too this is kind of limited in a way. You know what I mean? Because trying to save just one girl at a time I think is the best thing to do. You know, in-instead of doing that, we just want to shut down the [[Lullaby Project]]. We wanna close [[Verdus]], um, and you know that's just the approach we're taking. If anyone has any better ideas, I mean that's what this is all about. I'd love to know. So, I guess-I guess we don't know about any, uh, altered. It's also been our policy--we want to help people. But we really think the best way to do it is to take these people down. Hit 'em where it hurts, you know?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Cool.

'''Jonas:''' Do you have any ideas though? Anything? That we could do differently?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' I can't really think of anything.

'''Jonas:''' Oh.

'''Broken Kid:''' You-you also had a question, hopeful, about, uh, the Ceremony girls, right?

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Yeah, Jonas. Like, have you guys just given up or is it on the back burner to rescue all the Ceremony girls?

'''Jonas:''' No, no, no, no. It's not on the back burner. Um, it's hard to put it--I guess I'll put it this way. We will help people when we find them, but we think that the best thing to do is to cut this off at the head. Um, I think going after Ceremony girls at this point might-might hurt them more than help them. Because I'm afraid that we might lead them, [[the Order]] I mean, we might lead the Order to these girls accidentally. That's just our fear. I mean, we haven't had much luck with that in the past, so....

'''hopefulsemblance:''' Right.

'''Jonas:''' You know, thanks, and I mean, what do you think? What do you think? Do you think that's a good idea? I mean, I don't know, it's frustrating to us because we want to go out there and we want and we want to find these girls, um, but it's a double-edged sword. I mean, I don't know what's right? The chicken or the egg? Are we bringing bad guys to these girls, or are we doing the right thing? (''pauses'') You know?

'''caalan21:''' Hey Jonas, this is caalan. I think that for the most part you guys are going about it pretty much the right way. Even if you find all these girls, how are you really going to protect them all from the Order? You remember how hard it was to keep Bree away from them, or Emma. How are you gonna do it when you have ten, fifteen, twenty girls under your skirts?

'''Jonas:''' Exactly, that's what I'm thinking too.

'''Broken Kid:''' Well, uh, Chipper, you had a question about, um, about Dr. Hart and, uh, Bree you were gonna ask.

'''Chippercat:''' Yeah, um, actually, according to the recorded call we had heard between [[Drew Avery]] and [[Isaac Gilman]], Bree was only one injection away from being made permanently trait negative. But she never developed any of the same symptoms or the illnesses as Emma and the other girls. So, I'm just curious. You guys have Drew Avery's notes from the Camp Play box, and the box that you guys found at the boat dock. Have you all shared any of these research notes with Dr. Hart and, if so, what are his thoughts on it?

'''Jonas:''' Well, we have. I mean, that's a really good question, um, first of all. And we have. Um, it's difficult to talk about right now because, again, I'm not sure how secure everything is here. Uh, but, and again it's hard for me as well because I don't speak doctor-talk. It's really hard for me. (''laughing'') Uh, but here's what I remember. And here's what I got from it. That, um, that I guess Emma was given these-these injections right, and I guess she was given double-dosage. Which Bree was only getting from her dad, who knew what he was doing, was giving a smaller amount--the right level of the dosage. Im, and so, because Emma was getting a double-dosage to begin with and her parents didn't really know what they were doing, I think--I suspect anyway--that they were giving her more of the shots than she was supposed to get because they wanted to hurry up to get her to be trait negative. Um, so-so that was why she went through those--the sickness and she had the--yeah, she went through the series of injections twice. So, that's why she was sick and Bree wasn't.

'''Chippercat:''' Okay, so it wasn't just...

'''Jonas:''' It's hard for me to do the science talk, but that's what I got out of what he said. And-and as far as if we've shared the information with Dr. Hart, um, yeah, of course we have. Cause he's our go-to guy right now. He's all we really have, and we-we trust him. At first it was like we had to trust him, but now I really--I trust him. And why wouldn't we share everything we have with this guy? That's all we have.

'''Chippercat:''' Right. Absolutely. Now, I think there was a lot of confusion. You know, people didn't understand because we had heard [that] the other girls who were manufactured trait positive and as they turned trait negative they showed these symptoms. So, we thought it had something to do with just the changing from one trait to the next. So, that-that clears up a lot. Thank you very much.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. And, I guess that does have something to-to do with it. Uh, it-it--But-but, mainly, the reason with the difference is just because of the dosage. Like the people giving Emma her dosage didn't know what they were doing, um, I guess. And that's what--I hope I explained that well enough, 'cause I know these-the technical stuff, like I said: not my thing. But, um, that's an awesome question. Thank you. Um, I appreciate it.

'''Chippercat:''' You did great. Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' That actually leads really well into, uh, a question that P.MONKEYgetsFUNKY had. And I don't know if she's gotten on yet. P.MONKEY, are you there?

(''pause'')

'''Jonas:''' P.MONKEY?

'''Broken Kid:''' Okay, I think I may have messed up when sending her--I may have misspelled her user name when I sent out that last second email. Um, but I know-I know what her question was. She wanted to ask about...You know you mentioned that you guys trust Dr. Hart. And she was basically saying, "why?" 'Cause, the last time somebody was trying to, uh, to help Emma, she almost got killed. You know? So, why do you guys trust Dr. Hart?

'''Jonas:''' No. I know and trust me: I've-I've had my doubts myself. I've second-guessed. I mean, you know my track record with this sort of thing. Um, but the thing I'm keeping in mind here is that I trust him, a. And, b, I'm not letting her out of my sight. I learned my lesson the last time with the Claire-thing. I-I am not letting her out of my sight.

'''Broken Kid:''' Good.

'''Jonas:''' But, also--

'''Chershaytoute:''' Good boy, Jonas.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. I-at least I learned. I make my mistakes, but I learn. Um, but here's the kicker and here's the thing that really makes me trust this guy: is that Emma trusts him (''children cry'') ...huh. And Emma never trusted Claire. And I should have listened to her because the girl has ''really'' good instincts when it comes to this stuff. Um, and I think that if he'd had wanted to hurt her, I think he could have--he's had his chances. He could have done it at the Verdus lab. Uh, but instead, um, he didn't. He got us--he helped us and, uh, he got us out of there safely. And also: the guy's given up his whole career to help us. And, uh, I just feel like I think we owe him our trust at this point. I think that he's proven--he's done more than anyone could possibly do to prove his worthiness, at least in my eyes. What do you think? I mean, um, I-I trust him. But I also--on the other hand, I also think that everyone should keep their eyes out because we're lost without you guys. Everybody should watch this guy and if you see anything funny--at all, I mean, on any level. If this guy's not-not what you think he should be, or if he's suspicious, I mean, you guys need to let us know that and-and, you know, on the forum or however we can communicate. What do you think? Do you guys-do you trust him?

'''Chippercat:''' He seems trustworthy to me.

'''Jonas:''' You think so?

'''Chippercat:''' So far. So far, so good.

'''caalan21:''' Too many-too many--

'''Jonas:''' Alright. I've been wrong before and I just... (''laugh'') You know? I'm just going as we go here. Day by day. Making this up as we go. So, I think--

'''Chershaytoute:''' I think the day-by-day. That's good.

'''Jonas:''' What was that?

'''Chershaytoute:''' I think the day-by-day idea is a good one.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah

'''Chershaytoute:''' Little bits at a time... and being watchful.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, I think it's important to... 'Cause I have a problem with trusting people. Really, uh, I've either not trusted the right person or trusted the right-the wrong person. You know what I mean? I've-I just-I'm constantly trusting the wrong person. So, uh, I need your help.

'''Broken Kid:''' So, I think, you know, you talked about Dr. Hart a little bit and, uh, you know, trusting him. Uh, JustAnotherLonelyGirl is going to ask what do you think about him-about him and Bree.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah, uh, hi this is JustAnotherLonelyGirl. Um, but, actually, you can call me Loretta if you want. Um, yeah. Um, well, my question actually resembles a lot what, um, someone said before--I forget who--about Bree and about how, um, how when she was turning trait negative she didn't exhibit any of the symptoms. Um, I didn't totally understand how you explained. Why? Can you just re-explain that?

'''Jonas:''' Okay. She didn't show the symptoms and--again: this is to the best of my understanding. I could be wrong. But, she didn't show the symptoms because her dad knew what he was doing when he gave her the trait negative injections. He gave 'em to her slow enough, um, in a low enough dosage that it didn't have an ill effect on her. Almost like an overdose. Like, Emma was given way too much. She went through it twice. She went through two series of sets of-of shots. And not only that. When she was given to my parents, under their care, we think that they gave her way too much of a dosage because they wanted to essentially hurry up to get her trait negative.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Um, okay. Alright, that clears a lot--

'''Jonas:''' Does that make sense?

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah, that does. Um, have you talked to Dr Hart about, um, Bree's dad though? I mean, he knew Dr. Gillman. Did he know her dad at all?

'''Jonas:''' I'm sorry. I didn't hear that. What was that?

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Um, Dr. Hart said that he worked under Dr. Gillman. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' So--and Dr. Gillman knew Bree's father. Did, um, Dr. Hart ever run into him?

'''Jonas:''' No, as far as I-I have asked him that and he said no, I think. U, I'm pretty sure.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Okay. Um, well, basically, my question is a lot like, um, the other person before. Uh, first of all, I really-I really think that we should go back and review what was done differently with Bree. Which obviously had to do with the dosage.

'''Jonas:''' Right.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' But, another thing is--uh, two other things. She was on iron pills.
And I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with it, 'cause I don't speak science either, but, um, she was on iron pills and she was taking something like epogen or something. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Right. Yeah.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' So, I don't know if Dr. Hart could look into that and maybe figure out if that had anything to do with--'cause I think that we need to find a way to make trait positive girls trait negative, 'cause, obviously, that would make them useless to the Order. But we need to find a way to do it without hurting them.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? Actually I've-he has talked about that. Um, he is looking into that. Um, it's weird you said that because he is looking into that.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. I think you actually have to look into that and look back at the notebook from, um, from Bree's dad. And also, one other thing I had to ask was, um, the serum that you've been giving Emma and that--I don't know if you've been, um, keeping up with. But there's, like, an extension of the Order in the U.K. and, um, [[Spencer]] actually contacted a girl named [[Charlie]] in the U.K. and sent her some of the serum that he had left over. And, um, I'm not sure if that serum is the same serum that had Bree's blood in it. Right?

'''Jonas:''' Um... I think-I think so.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. 'Cause I don't know if it would be possible to, like, separate it or anything. But maybe Dr. Hart could also use that to kinda test Bree's blood and to find if there's something different about Bree's blood that was helping her. 'Cause obviously she never caught the illness. So...

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, that's a great-that's a great suggestion. I'm definitely gonna look into that.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Yeah. And maybe Spencer has some of that left over he could send to you also or something if you don't have. 'Cause obviously Emma's parents aren't going to be helpful. (''laughs'') So, um, yeah. I think maybe--

'''Jonas:''' I think that's a great idea. Yeah, I think you're on to-yeah, I think you're on to something. I think something like an avenue we definately need to check out.

'''JustAnotherLonelyGirl:''' Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' So, I think EricaRocks has a question too about--I'm sorry. I'm just gonna kinda keep things glowing here. I know Jonas doesn't have a lot of time. You wanted to talk a little about they're-uh, what they're doing right now.

'''EricaRocks:''' My question is--this is EricaRocks. My question is kinda general. Uh, more like why is everyone staying in the same place? Aren't you worried that maybe the Order might find out where you are? I mean, [[Sonia]] found out where you were. Anyone can find you.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. No, no. That's a-that's a-I mean, great point. That's something I've thought a lot, especially recently. Um, and I'm thinking about talking to the doctor about it. Um, Dr. Hart--you know, I think that... I don't know. I think that... I-how do I put? We've got something in the works right now. Something that we're planning. And I can't really talk about it yet. Um, but I think you're right. I think-I think you're absolutely right. We should-we should probably think about splitting up and maybe going underground for awhile. You know?

'''ErikaRocks:''' Kay.

'''Jonas:''' 'Cause it's just too dangerous to stay. I mean, we have to learn from the past. Right?

'''EricaRocks:''' Right. And the runnings aren't always fun. (''laughs'')

'''Jonas:''' What's that?

'''EricaRocks:''' The running's not always the fun thing.

'''Jonas:''' No, I know. It's not, but sometimes, I guess, it's necessary.

'''EricaRocks:''' But, maybe, you know, just moving around a little.

'''Jonas:''' Yeah. I wish we could just find a permanent place to hide where they wouldn't find us. You know? It'd make things easier.

'''Broken Kid:''' I think to that point, too, harmony had a question about, you know, your guys' biggest concern.

'''Jonas:''' What-what's our biggest concern?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah. Basically I'm just wondering, like, what do you think is pretty much your biggest threat when it comes down to the Order, or in that regard. Also, what's your biggest opportunity to get to them. Like, what's their weakest point and what's their biggest threat to you as well?

'''Jonas:''' Well, yeah. Uh, I-I think the thing that's most important to me and the thing I'm most worried about is-is Emma. You know? She's family. Um, and now-especially now because she's gonna stay trait positive. They could-they could really come after her at any time. Um, so, that makes me nervous. So, that's always going to be my number one, uh, thing is just to keep her safe.

'''harmony99:''' For sure.

'''Jonas:''' But, in terms of the big picture, I mean, that's what you're talking about: the big picture--the Order. I think, me personally, and, correct me, I mean, if you don't agree with this-- this why we're here: to tell me. But, I think that any time the Order has a public face, we should smear dirt on it. You know what I'm saying?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah!

'''Jonas:''' Like Verdus, like the [[Lullaby Project]]. All these-all these-these fronts that they have. Um, because they're operating in total secret. Nobody knows about them; nobody believes that they're controlling things except for us. Which is frustrating. You know? I mean, it's so obvious. Nobody believes us. Which is why I think that we should stay focused on-on taking those people down right now. The Lullaby Project, Verdus. You know, hit them where it hurts. Thats that.

'''harmony99:''' Yeah. The thing is, though, is it's one big organization. Like, three different faces and, I mean, you have to concentrate your efforts on one thing at a time if you [try to shut down one of it's factions?] you're not going to be as effective as if you try to shut one thing and it-you try to shut one thing down at a time, right? So, in that sense what is their weakest point? Is it Verdus? Is it the Wyman foundation, or Hymn of One, or the Lullaby Project in specific?

'''Jonas:''' I personally think the Lullaby Project and Verdus. I think that's their weak point right now.

'''harmony99:''' Mhm.

'''Jonas:''' And I that's who I want to go after.

'''harmony99:''' Right.

'''Jonas:''' And I wish I could say more right now. But, um, but.

'''harmony99:''' You got something. (''laughs'')

'''Jonas:''' Yes. I-I think so. So, um, I really think that's their weak point. And, if we can bring one of those down-I think it's like the mother ship going down, you know? Everything just starts to crumble.

'''harmony99:''' Exactly.

'''Jonas:''' You know?

'''harmony99:''' Exactly.

'''Jonas:''' We just figure out who is right; we just go after one. We just focus our energy on one thing. It feels like-it feels like we're so pulled in so many different directions. You know? All these girls that are out there. Trait positive, trait negative, all these companies. It's overwhelming sometimes. You know?

'''harmony99:''' Yeah.

'''Jonas:''' You're absolutely right. Just go after one.

'''harmony99:''' Cool. So, I guess--

'''Broken Kid:''' You know, I think-I think--

(''pause'')

'''Jonas:''' Yeah, well--

'''harmony99:''' It's alright. I'm just saying, while you--

'''Jonas:''' Go ahead.

'''harmony99:''' Well, we're gonna have to focus more on trying to find more weaknesses for them. Because, as of yet, there hasn't been really anything that I can pinpoint saying, "Well, you know, this is somewhere we can infiltrate." You know what I mean?

'''Jonas:''' I couldn't hear that. I'm sorry.

'''harmony99:''' Oh, sorry! Is the mic breaking up or something? Or...?

'''Jonas:''' No, you're fine now. I think it was just my phone maybe.

'''harmony99:''' Uh, alright. Cool. I was just saying that so far we haven't really found a weakness for the Lullaby Project, I mean, that we can pinpoint to saying, "Well, you know, this is where we can infiltrate." And it seems like we need to do research more and find a way to get in and get some more info. Whether Sarah can do that or not. Sort of a... big concern

'''Jonas:''' Well, yeah. The Sarah thing is a big concern. Um, but I feel like...I feel like we have some things in the works that I can't really, uh, that I can't really say right now, because it's not firmed up. But I feel like-- But I see a crack in the wall. Uh, I'm really [[[something]]], trust me.

'''harmony99:''' Uh, okay. Thank you.

'''Broken Kid:''' Uh, I think that, uh, HeartofSorrow wanted to talk to you a little bit about your, uh, techniques of your-your stealth and infiltrations.

(''laughter'')

'''Jonas:''' Oh, boy. Yeah, my skills, huh?

'''HeartofSorrow:''' Well, it's more like, uh...when you all went to go after Emma when the--those, um, LaRezisto people had her; it's like you guys were staying out too much in the open.

'''Jonas:''' Mmhmm.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' I mean, from the video that I saw, before y'all brought Emma to get out, it was like there was a glass window that you could see in the kitchen and...

'''Jonas:''' Yeah.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' It was like, right there, he might've passed by and y'all would've been seen and when y'all went into the foyer, it--it was like, one whole--like, one, two sides of it had glass windows seeing right into it and y'all are basically out in the open. (''pause'') And I was thinking, like, "Darn, guys, you gotta...get outside. Cuz if-- (''laughs'') they see you, they're gonna come after you." And--

'''Jonas:''' I know, man. I know, you're absolutely right.

'''HeartofSorrow:''' Right--It's like, uh, I hate to use a video game analogy but...uh, if you're playing [[[something]]]

'''Jonas:''' I've got to be honest with you, I'm not a...you know, I'm not a spy, you know I never...uh, planned on any of this, you know. And it's frustrating-- you're right, you are so right, man. (''pause'') Uh, I haven't been very good at this stuff. Uh, the stealth, the hiding. In fact, I'm gonna be honest, I've been kinda stupid in the past. Um...but I'm learning as I go, man, you know, I'm learning as I go and I'm really-- you know, help us out when you can, you know...when--on the forum, or any time you see us doing something stupid try and bring it to our attention as soon as you can because, uh--yeah. And not that I'm not learning, what I'm doing, you know I feel like we're making progress, you know...Right? Are we--or are we just as bad as we always were?

Time so far: 21.22
Time left: 27.23
Total time: 48.45

{{transcript incomplete}}

==Notes==
* The conference call had the ability to handle 150 callers. Thirteen callers were picked in advance by Jonas to be able to speak on the conference call, to avoid complete pandemonium. It is not known whether one of those thirteen callers betrayed Jonas and gave their calling information to Virgil.
* The 13 callers were:
:*hopefulsemblance
:*Chippercat
:*P.MONKEYgetsFUNKY
:*JustAnotherLonelyGirl
:*EricaRocks
:*harmony99
:*HeartofSorrow
:*livelovelaugh
:*Chershaytoute
:*caalan21
:*Mowse
:*Jafin
:*hamovbala4ever89

[[Category:Breeniverse events]]

I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T02:27:41Z

128.187.0.178:

{{Unofficial blog
| name = I Hate Colds
| number = 1 in the Xeniph series
| caption = Poor me. I have a cold.
|blogger = Xeniph
| date = Dec. 8, 2006
| url = [http://one.revver.com/watch/116075 I Hate Colds]
| description = Pretty much I whine about colds, flu, and early mornings. Oh, yeah, and I give Bree some advice. YES, I know I look around a lot, I'm not used to the cam yet.
| tags = [[Xeniph]] [[Bree]] [[Jonas]] isolated bank
| Previous =
| Next = AAH!
}}
'''I Hate Colds''' is the first video in the Xeniph saga. It was posted in response to __________.

==Transcript==
'''Xeniph:''' So I had to get up really early today.
(''makes pained face, then snorts'')
So I went to record this, and I forgot to turn the camera on. That's how tired I am, okay?
(''makes a face I don't know how to describe, opens eyes wide'')
Anyway...
(''thinks for a moment'')
We were practicing early for a thing in my theatre class.
(''looks confused or muzzy'') It's crazy.
I just barely started this theatre class, and I have to get up early. It's insane. I may quit, I don't know.
(''pauses. When she starts speaking again, she sounds distinctly stuffed up'')
You may notice that my voice is really low today.
(''pained face'') I'm getting a cold.
I'm really susceptible to colds, and I ''hate'' colds.
(''pause'')
The only thing I hate worse than a cold is the flu.
(''shakes head'') Not very good during cold and flu season, huh?
(''sighs'')
(''cut to her looking thoughtful'') I didn't take my vitamins. That's probably why I'm sick. (''Editor's note: Duh!'') (''she pauses, apparently forgetting what she was going to say, then suddenly starts listing her vitamins'') I have a red multivitamin, and then I have, um, some vitamin C and zinc, and then I have my special pills. My dad said when I was really little, I was really really sick, and so they formulated these pills that I have to take otherwise I'm gonna get really really sick. So I have...
(''counts'') ...four pills to take every day.
(''thinks'') Sorry, this is probably boring you to death.
(''sighs, and continues in a lethargic voice'')
I watched newest two videos on Lonelygirl15.
(''sighs again'') I dunno, Bree, you're in a hard spot. Jonas...I'm pretty sure it's not a good idea to go live with him. Number one, you don't know anything about him, just like Gemma says (''Editor's note: right, trust Gemma.''). Number two...his house is in the middle of nowhere. Like, he himself said that it was isolated. That's not a good idea. I mean, even if Jonas himself isn't in the Order, if the Order caught up to you you'd be in pretty bad shape. I mean, cuz at least in the city there's, you know, decent people around, who you can like go find, and who can help you. But, with Jonas' house you're out there in the middle of nowhere. It's kind of like the no one can hear you scream. I'm pretty, I'm almost 100% sure that going to your house is not a good idea. At dinner last night, Dad got a phone call, and from what he said, pretty much just...it sounded like they're still watching your house. I mean, I know it's been three weeks, but...I mean, the watchers are still after you. So... (''shrugs'')
I'd say the safest thing to do is get money from Jonas. Um, he can set up a temporary bank account and you can withdraw the money, you can...you can withdraw it and then deposit it in Daniel's bank account or you can just withdraw it as cash, but that way he never needs to know where you are, he never needs to know anything except, you know, the bank ac--the temporary account number he puts it in, you know, and then you have money, you don't have to live on the streets. Cuz that's not a good idea. I saw those garbage cans. Bree that's unsanitary. That's gross.
(''thinks'')
I'm sorry. I can't think. (''sighs'') I'm just so tired...
I tell you what, I'm going to go sleep, and then hopefully when I get up we can talk. Okay? Okay.
(''rolls eyes, disgustedly'') What am I talking about, I'm talking to a ''machine''.
(''shakes head'') I'm so pathetic...

==Notes==
*This is the first video in the Xeniph saga.
*This is the first time Xeniph's dad is mentioned in connection with the Order on video.
*Zinc is supposed to bolster the immune system.
*Xeniph's "special pills" seem to be akin to Brees injections in that she does not know what they are for, but the Order formulated them.
*In this video, Xeniph seems to be with Gemma and against Jonas. In later videos she seems to have tentatively rethought her position.
*Xeniph's eyes roam noticeably throughout the video.
*As seen in the mirror behind Xeniph, it seems she is recording on a laptop with a Logitech Orbit camera. She has a bulletin board above her desk.
*There seems to be something stuck on the mirror in the upper lefthand corner. In later videos, it is missing.
''to be contintued''

I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T02:01:18Z

128.187.0.178:

I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T01:58:59Z

128.187.0.178:

{{Unofficial blog
| name = I Hate Colds
| number = 1 in the Xeniph series
| caption = Poor me. I have a cold.
| date = Dec. 8, 2006
| url = [http://one.revver.com/watch/116075 I Hate Colds]
| description = Pretty much I whine about colds, flu, and early mornings. Oh, yeah, and I give Bree some advice. YES, I know I look around a lot, I'm not used to the cam yet.
| tags = [[Xeniph]] [[Bree]] [[Jonas]] isolated bank
| Previous =
| Next = AAH!
}}
'''I Hate Colds''' is the first video in the Xeniph saga. It was posted in response to __________.

==Transcript==
'''Xeniph:''' So I had to get up really early today.
(''makes pained face, then snorts'')
So I went to record this, and I forgot to turn the camera on. That's how tired I am, okay?
(''makes a face I don't know how to describe, opens eyes wide'')
Anyway...
(''thinks for a moment'')
We were practicing early for a thing in my theatre class.
(''looks confused or muzzy'') It's crazy.
I just barely started this theatre class, and I have to get up early. It's insane. I may quit, I don't know.
(''pauses. When she starts speaking again, she sounds distinctly stuffed up'')
You may notice that my voice is really low today.
(''pained face'') I'm getting a cold.
I'm really susceptible to colds, and I ''hate'' colds.
(''pause'')
The only thing I hate worse than a cold is the flu.
(''shakes head'') Not very good during cold and flu season, huh?
(''sighs'')
(''cut to her looking thoughtful'') I didn't take my vitamins. That's probably why I'm sick. (''Editor's note: Duh!'') (''she pauses, apparently forgetting what she was going to say, then suddenly starts listing her vitamins'') I have a red multivitamin, and then I have, um, some vitamin C and zinc, and then I have my special pills. My dad said when I was really little, I was really really sick, and so they formulated these pills that I have to take otherwise I'm gonna get really really sick. So I have...
(''counts'') ...four pills to take every day.
(''thinks'') Sorry, this is probably boring you to death.
(''sighs, and continues in a lethargic voice'')
I watched newest two videos on Lonelygirl15.
(''sighs again'') I dunno, Bree, you're in a hard spot. Jonas...I'm pretty sure it's not a good idea to go live with him. Number one, you don't know anything about him.
''to be contintued''

I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T01:36:59Z

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I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T01:33:59Z

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{{Xeniph
| name = I Hate Colds
| order = 1 in the Xeniph series
| caption = Poor me. I have a cold.
| date = Dec. 8, 2006
| url = [http://one.revver.com/watch/116075 I Hate Colds]
| description = Pretty much I whine about colds, flu, and early mornings. Oh, yeah, and I give Bree some advice. YES, I know I look around a lot, I'm not used to the cam yet.
| tags = [[Xeniph]] [[Bree]] [[Jonas]] isolated bank
| Previous =
| Next = AAH!
}}
'''I Hate Colds''' is the first video in the Xeniph saga. It was posted in response to __________.

==Transcript==
'''Xeniph:''' So I had to get up really early today.
(''makes pained face, then snorts'')
So I went to record this, and I forgot to turn the camera on. That's how tired I am, okay?
(''makes a face I don't know how to describe, opens eyes wide'')
Anyway...
(''thinks for a moment'')
We were practicing early for a thing in my theatre class.
(''looks confused or muzzy'') It's crazy.
I just barely started this theatre class, and I have to get up early. It's insane. I may quit, I don't know.
(''pauses. When she starts speaking again, she sounds distinctly stuffed up'')
You may notice that my voice is really low today.
(''pained face'') I'm getting a cold.
I'm really susceptible to colds, and I ''hate'' colds.
(''pause'')
The only thing I hate worse than a cold is the flu.
(''shakes head'') Not very good during cold and flu season, huh?
''to be contintued''

I Hate Colds

2007-02-03T01:33:02Z

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{{NBR
| name = I Hate Colds
| order = 1 in the Xeniph series
| caption = Poor me. I have a cold.
| date = Dec. 8, 2006
| url = [http://one.revver.com/watch/116075 I Hate Colds]
| description = Pretty much I whine about colds, flu, and early mornings. Oh, yeah, and I give Bree some advice. YES, I know I look around a lot, I'm not used to the cam yet.
| tags = [[Xeniph]] [[Bree]] [[Jonas]] isolated bank
| Previous =
| Next = AAH!
}}
'''I Hate Colds''' is the first video in the Xeniph saga. It was posted in response to __________.

==Transcript==
'''Xeniph:''' So I had to get up really early today.
(''makes pained face, then snorts'')
So I went to record this, and I forgot to turn the camera on. That's how tired I am, okay?
(''makes a face I don't know how to describe, opens eyes wide'')
Anyway...
(''thinks for a moment'')
We were practicing early for a thing in my theatre class.
(''looks confused or muzzy'') It's crazy.
I just barely started this theatre class, and I have to get up early. It's insane. I may quit, I don't know.
(''pauses. When she starts speaking again, she sounds distinctly stuffed up'')
You may notice that my voice is really low today.
(''pained face'') I'm getting a cold.
I'm really susceptible to colds, and I ''hate'' colds.
(''pause'')
The only thing I hate worse than a cold is the flu.
(''shakes head'') Not very good during cold and flu season, huh?
''to be contintued''

Xeniph

2007-02-03T01:03:32Z

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{{Person
| name = Ananda Jerr
| image =
| age = Unspecified, supposed to be around 17.
| birthday = Unknown
| youtube = Xeniph
| revver = Xeniph
| myspace = Xeniph
| actor = Unknown
| first = I hate colds.
}}
'''Xeniph''' is a [[YouTube]]/[[Revver]] user who posts as the daughter of one of the Elders. She began posting around November of 2006 in the forums at LG15.com, claiming to know [[Bree]] from religious camp. Later, she claims to have convinced her Dad to give her a camera, and starts posting videos.

==List of Videos==
*[[I Hate Colds]]
*[http://one.revver.com/watch/116066 AAH!]
*[http://one.revver.com/watch/118942 Day Four: I smell a Rat.]
*[http://one.revver.com/watch/122956 Bree, Gemma, Daniel, and Life]
*[http://one.revver.com/watch/122957 The Anti-Anti Cribs]
*[http://one.revver.com/watch/138426 I don't know what to think]

[[Category: Fan fiction]]

Xeniph

2007-02-02T23:54:40Z

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{{Person
| name = Ananda Jerr
| image =
| age = Unspecified, supposed to be around 17.
| birthday = Unknown
| youtube = Xeniph
| revver = Xeniph
| myspace = Xeniph
| actor = Unknown
| first = I hate colds.
}}
'''Xeniph''' is a [[YouTube]]/[[Revver]] user who posts as the daughter of one of the Elders. She began posting around November of 2006 in the forums at LG15.com, claiming to know [[Bree]] from religious camp. Later, she claims to have convinced her Dad to give her a camera, and starts posting videos.

==List of Videos==
*[[I Hate Colds]]
*[[AAH!]]
*[[Day Four: I smell a Rat.]]
*[[Bree, Gemma, Daniel, and Life]]
*[[The Anti-Anti Cribs]]
*[[I don't know what to think]]

[[Category: Fan fiction]]

Xeniph

2007-02-02T23:49:16Z

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{{Person
| name = Ananda Jerr
| image =
| age = Unspecified, supposed to be around 17.
| birthday = Unknown
| youtube = Xeniph
| revver = Xeniph
| myspace = Xeniph
| actor = Unknown
| first = I hate colds.
}}
'''Xeniph''' is a [[YouTube]]/[[Revver]] user who posts as the daughter of one of the Elders. She began posting around November of 2006 in the forums at LG15.com, claiming to know [[Bree]] from religious camp.

==List of Videos==
*[[I Hate Colds]]
*[[AAH!]]
*[[Day Four: I smell a Rat.]]
*[[Bree, Gemma, Daniel, and Life]]
*[[The Anti-Anti Cribs]]
*[[I don't know what to think]]

[[Category: Fan fiction]]

LG15 Spin-offs

2007-02-02T23:32:09Z

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__NOTOC__
==Fan Interaction Through Viewer-Created Videos==

According to their post on November 24, 2006 on the [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/forum| lonelygirl15 message forum], the [[The Creators]] of [[lonelygirl15]] explained to viewers the various ways to interact with their story. Along with viewers’ ability to use the official forum to discuss the plot and characters with each other and to post questions, comments and suggestions to the characters via the character interaction section of the forum, [[The Creators]] emboldened fans to “[c]reate your own characters and storylines within the Breeniverse.” The post goes on to explain that once fans create such videos, this work can be submitted "as ‘Video Comments’ to a video we produce." Fans were encouraged to "Give [[Bree]] or [[Daniel]] advice. Create your own story (like [[LordGreystoke422]]) or make parody videos (like [[LonesomeOctober]])...you are only limited by your creativity." Many fans took up this challenge and began creating their own response videos. These fan-created videos are diverse in content, genre and production values.

Members of the official forum were given a section in which to discuss these fan-created works. Some of the comments about these fan creations range from praise to criticism to lengthy discussions to occasional speculation about whether or not a video response is connected to the official story. One example of such speculation surrounding an official connection to the lg15 story has revolved around the video responses of [[Nikki Bower]], whose investigative report videos have been set in many of the same locations as [[canon]] videos. This speculation could be due to the fact that two official characters, [[Gemma]] and [[Jonas]], were introduced to the audience in videoblogs under the guise of fan responses. Once [[Gemma]] and [[Jonas]] were acknowledged by Bree in her videoblog, these two characters were understood to be a part of the [[Breeniverse]]. Speculation about other videos revolved around the fan spin-off [[OpAphid]], which became the official [[Alternate Reality Game| ARG]] of the lonelygirl15 series. [[OpAphid]] is unique in the fact that it was not created by the lg15 production team, but was, rather, incorporated into the series. According to a post made on November 24, 2006 on the official forum, [[the Creators]] stated that [[OpAphid]] "was a 100% fan created [[ARG]]. We liked it so much that we decided to contact the creator and make it the official [[LG15]] [[ARG]]."

In this November 24th post, [[the Creators]] continue with the following statements: “We can't wait to see what other characters and storylines you guys come up with. Your creativity and passion is truly amazing." The producers of the lonelygirl15 saga are generally encouraging of fan-created materials, although they are careful not respond to, comment on or endorse these videos. Fan creations uploaded to users’ [[Revver]] accounts can appear on the main page of the [http://lonelygirl15.com Tribute to Lonelygirl15 site] in a column next to the most recent lonelygirl15 video. Although referred to as "Fan Creations and Spin-offs" on the official forum, they are sometimes referred to by some viewers as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction Fan Fiction], although this term is generally used to describe written works by fans regarding an original story. This genre of fan-created video fiction is still developing and has yet to be named or specifically defined within the lexicon of fan-created endeavors.

==Characters and series==

===Series which comment on the [[Breeniverse]]===

* [[ApotheosisAZ]] -- a person of the highest ethical order submits insane satire and zaniness.
* [[Colbertnationgirl]] -- a youtube user making videos to help all LonelyCrack addicts.
* [[Cassieiswatching]] -- a YouTube user who quickly rose to infamy by posting videos implying she was the [[Cassie]] that [[Bree]] had briefly discussed with [[Daniel]].
* [[The Homeschoolers Aggregate]] -- a participatory online pursuit for the gifted home schooler focused on structure, philosophy and lessons inspired by the events in [[Bree]]'s life.
* [[Immant]]-- a reformist doctor who serves as the [[Order]]'s Minister of Information and uses his videos to share minimal information with the public about the [[Order]]'s history and intentions.
* [[Iris2009]]-- a [[Revver]] user who has offered his advice to [[Bree]], [[Daniel]] and [[Jonas]].
* [[Itscassie]] -- a [[YouTube]] and [[Revver]] user who posts dark videos as [[Cassie]] locked in the [[Order]]'s secret, undisclosed compound.
* [[Epic Movie|Lonelygirl362436]] -- Carmen Electra stars in a spoof of lg15 from the creators of [[Epic Movie]].
* [[LonesomeOctober]] -- a [[YouTube]] and [[Revver]] user who posts in-character video responses as [[Purple Monkey]] and [[Owen]].
* [[LordGreystoke422]] -- a [[YouTube]] and [[Revver]] user whose videos revolve around his pursuit by mysterious people who may or may not be related to [[OpAphid]] and the [[Order of Denderah]]. In addition, he offers help and support to [[Bree]] and [[Daniel]].
* [[Maccaboy17]] -- a [[Youtube]] and [[Revver]] user whose videos revolve around investigating and fighting the [[Order]]'s presence in the United Kingdom.
* [[Marbella]]-- [[Revver]] and [[YouTube]] user who posts a wide variety of video responses. Some are parodies. Others are fan videos. Dr.Marbella has a (DSAVM.) That's a doctorate in stuffed animal veterinary medicine. All of her videos are WAY far out~but FUN!
* [[Nikki Bower]] -- a [[YouTube]] user who posts many on-location videos as an investigative reporter on the trail of [[lonelygirl15]].
* [[Paulmark18|Paul and Andrea]] -- a [[YouTube]] duo who posts videos as [[Paul]] and [[Andrea]], the unseen friends of [[Daniel]] who have been mentioned in several early [[lonelygirl15]] videos.
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=SACREDfilms Students of Anchor Cove Rallying to Eliminate Degeneracy] -- a series of satirical videos, often with clips from black and white 1950s morality-film strips, "to help [[Bree]] and all decent girls navigate the trappings of the modern age."
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tannhaus Tannhaus] -- a [[YouTube]] user who posts a series known as ''A Thelemite Speaks.''
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TitoHandyman TitoHandyman] -- an [[YouTube]] user who chronicles his attempts to establish a beehive in response to [[Bree]]'s videos.
* [[TWJaniak]] -- a [[YouTube]] and [[Revver]] user who has occasionally shared his advice with [[Bree]] and [[Daniel]], in addition to other responses to events in the world of [[lonelygirl15]].
* [[Xeniph]] -- a [[YouTube]] and [[Revver]] user who claims to have met [[Bree]] at Camp. She posts as the daughter of someone who works with the Elders (although the exact work relationship has never been described). She gives Bree advice, but she has troubles of her own.
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/Zarbod Zarbod] -- an extraterrestrial on [[YouTube]] who has a crush on [[Bree]].

===Vlog episodes that have commented on the Breeniverse===
''This is a a selection of video commentary on the [[Breeniverse]], not a comprehensive list.''
* [[Deemontreal]] -- a musician who created a music video tribute to [[lonelygirl15]]
* [[mossymansions]] -- a fan who wrote and recorded a song entitled "Lonely Girl 15" about [[Bree]]'s adventures and posted it on [[YouTube]].
* [[MsBlackBetty]] -- Winner of the Miss HorrorFest 2007 title, that did a [[lonelygirl15]] parody video
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=PhillFlash PhillFlash] A [[YouTube]] user who has spoof series of many popular [[YouTube]] series, including a series in which he plays [[Bree]]'s dad.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4LPD60OdL0 The Story of Purple Monkey] -- a trailer for a movie starring [[Bree]] as the villain who abuses P. Monkey.
* [[YourMomisSmarmy]]- A Youtube video user that made a parody video of LG15.

===Nonvideo fanfiction===
* [[Orange Slurpee]] -- the history behind the theory of orange as a device that foreshadows and symbolizes evil and the implication that drinking an Orange Slurpee signals an allegiance to the [[Order]].
* [[The Deacons (commenter)]] - posts on the comments board of the LG15 website as the higher-ups from [[the Order]], giving Bree advice and warnings and often beseeching her to return to them.

===Series commenting on [[cassieiswatching]]===
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cassieseesall cassieseesall]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cassieiswatching222 cassieiswatching222]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=etchings Etchings]
* [[Frankiswaking]]
* [[GuillotineCalamity]]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=itrog itrog]
* [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=TheLadyLazarus TheLadyLazarus]
* [[LordGreystoke422]]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MintGurl MintGurl]
* [[NillaWafers]]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RickKnowsWhy RickKnowsWhy]
* [[scdgoofy]]

==Collections==
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=watchingOpAphid WatchingOpAphid] -- a [[YouTube]] fan account attempting to keep track of all [[OpAphid]] related posts.
* [http://www.youtube.com/ReporteroR CS] -- [[lonelygirl15]] videos [[LG15 in Spanish|translated to Spanish]]/videos de Lonelygirl15 traducidos al español.

[[Category: Fan fiction]]