Lonelygirl15

...I'm not going to bark at you guys about taking Julie cause enough of the forum is doing that already. You know you're in deep if you don't make this right. You guys must make this right.

You need to make her watch all of the videos. ALL OF THEM. From start to finish. Lucy is seen, youre parents being taken away, and as hard as it may be for you to watch, youre father is seen being shot to death by The Order. It's all on video Bree. After all what purpose was it to record all of these unbelievable events other than proof?

You can tell her your story all you want. But I think she has to see it to believe it.

xox
voyboy.

voyboy wrote:...I'm not going to bark at you guys about taking Julie cause enough of the forum is doing that already. You know you're in deep if you don't make this right. You guys must make this right.

You need to make her watch all of the videos. ALL OF THEM. From start to finish. Lucy is seen, youre parents being taken away, and as hard as it may be for you to watch, youre father is seen being shot to death by The Order. It's all on video Bree. After all what purpose was it to record all of these unbelievable events other than proof?

You can tell her your story all you want. But I think she has to see it to believe it.

xox
voyboy.

Thanks Voyboy. There's already been enough yelling and second guessing from us. She needs to realize that we're SAVING her. The Order has killed to get me to do the ceremony ... why would they stop now?

I think showing Julia the vids is a great idea! That way, if she doesn't listen to me, maybe she'll believe what she sees.

That's your best bet, Bree. She won't believe the things you actually say right now, I'm sure.

Good luck to you.

Lurker wrote:That's your best bet, Bree. She won't believe the things you actually say right now, I'm sure.

Good luck to you.

Yep I agree. I wish I could convince her how dangerous this situation is. That the Order is NOT good and we are. Lurker, we just want to help her. There was and is no intent to harm her. I hope you understand.

So what are you going to do to convince her you're not bad, but the Order is? The Order has never done something so traumatic to her as you have done.

lonelygirl15 wrote:

Lurker wrote:That's your best bet, Bree. She won't believe the things you actually say right now, I'm sure.

Good luck to you.

Yep I agree. I wish I could convince her how dangerous this situation is. That the Order is NOT good and we are. Lurker, we just want to help her. There was and is no intent to harm her. I hope you understand.

I do, Bree. I've been trying to get everyone to understand (not an easy task!), and to encourage you guys. I know this can't be an easy thing for any of you, and I know it's to help her.

To be honest, for some reason, I actually believe in you this time. I've questioned you on most of your decisions in the past, but this time I kind of ... do believe in you. Not sure why, but I do.

I'm still behind you guys. Godspeed.

This is wrong, Bree. You've sunk to the Order's level by doing this. Why is it okay for you to kidnap a girl and force her to believe one way, and not okay for the Order to do the exact same thing? I think there's a Nietzsche quote that could be fitting here...

Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

lonelygirl15 wrote:

voyboy wrote:...I'm not going to bark at you guys about taking Julie cause enough of the forum is doing that already. You know you're in deep if you don't make this right. You guys must make this right.

You need to make her watch all of the videos. ALL OF THEM. From start to finish. Lucy is seen, youre parents being taken away, and as hard as it may be for you to watch, youre father is seen being shot to death by The Order. It's all on video Bree. After all what purpose was it to record all of these unbelievable events other than proof?



You can tell her your story all you want. But I think she has to see it to believe it.

xox
voyboy.

Thanks Voyboy. There's already been enough yelling and second guessing from us. She needs to realize that we're SAVING her. The Order has killed to get me to do the ceremony ... why would they stop now?

I think showing Julia the vids is a great idea! That way, if she doesn't listen to me, maybe she'll believe what she sees.

Good! Now don't forget to show her from the very start. Don't skip any. That way she will see that you were exactly like her. If she sees them all she has to know that they are real. Let her know that there is no other agenda, other than saving her.

Please keep us posted too!
And good luck!!

xox
vb

Showing her all the videos is a great idea! Let's get some soda and popcorn and make it a movie night lol

What will showing her the videos do? You already kidnapped her, she's likely to just assume it's all propaganda you guys made to make her think you're the good guys.

Esteed wrote:What will showing her the videos do? You already kidnapped her, she's likely to just assume it's all propaganda you guys made to make her think you're the good guys.

Not if she sees the dates they were posted on youtube. There's no way she can ignore that. If she realize this started almost a year ago, she will have to believe them.

Esteed wrote:This is wrong, Bree. You've sunk to the Order's level by doing this. Why is it okay for you to kidnap a girl and force her to believe one way, and not okay for the Order to do the exact same thing?

Where do you get the impression that they're forcing Jules to believe anything? I highly doubt they're going to be pumping her full of those drugs that were used on them.

eucebo wrote:

Esteed wrote:What will showing her the videos do? You already kidnapped her, she's likely to just assume it's all propaganda you guys made to make her think you're the good guys.

Not if she sees the dates they were posted on youtube. There's no way she can ignore that. If she realize this started almost a year ago, she will have to believe them.

Exactly.

Okay. Well, Bree, you'll have to do more than just show her the videos. You'll have to show her the bunker.

Bree, remember something after you've shown her the videos. If Julia is not the new girl, then you'll have to keep her with you from then on in anyway. She'll know everything. And even if she promised truly that she wouldn't run to the order and tell them everything...well, the order has its ways, which you know.

She's with you now, and that's that. You'll have to keep her. You're going to have to realise that responsibility. I hope you do.

lonelygirl15 wrote:Yep I agree. I wish I could convince her how dangerous this situation is. That the Order is NOT good and we are. Lurker, we just want to help her. There was and is no intent to harm her. I hope you understand.

No, we do not understand. You have an ally in Lurker (whom I respect) and a handful of others. Looking at the forum board it appears you have lost most of your support. Not only that -- b/c people on this board helped you find Julia, you have made all of us accomplices in your crime. Did you think of that?
What you did was wrong. Period. No amount of sad faces or "we're the good guys" and "we had to do it"s will atone for this.

Voyboy's idea is a good one. Because of your over reaction, there is no longer any room for error. You have to convince her of the Order's true nature. There is no other option but victory.

Bree... seriously, I wonder: Have you been compromised by the Order? What kind of mind job did they do to you in Vegas? The Bree that fled her home, determined to stop the order is dead. A monster has taken her place.

~tb

TheeBerean wrote:

lonelygirl15 wrote:Yep I agree. I wish I could convince her how dangerous this situation is. That the Order is NOT good and we are. Lurker, we just want to help her. There was and is no intent to harm her. I hope you understand.

No, we do not understand. You have an ally in Lurker (whom I respect) and a handful of others. Looking at the forum board it appears you have lost most of your support. Not only that -- b/c people on this board helped you find Julia, you have made all of us accomplices in your crime. Did you think of that?
What you did was wrong. Period. No amount of sad faces or "we're the good guys" and "we had to do it"s will atone for this.

Voyboy's idea is a good one. Because of your over reaction, there is no longer any room for error. You have to convince her of the Order's true nature. There is no other option but victory.

Bree... seriously, I wonder: Have you been compromised by the Order? What kind of mind job did they do to you in Vegas? The Bree that fled her home, determined to stop the order is dead. A monster has taken her place.

~tb

What TheeBerean said ^^