Lonelygirl15

sometimes you must ask questions that you think you've already answered:

1) who is part of the order?
2) who is part of the hym of one?
3) who is with opaphid?
4) when do these three groups intersect and where do they split?
5) are there any rogue splinter groups? like orthadox reformists?

Well from the text we did learn that the watchers will do ANYTHING to PROTECT you, I figured they were there for that.

platypusrex256 wrote:sometimes you must ask questions that you think you've already answered:

1) who is part of the order?
2) who is part of the hym of one?
3) who is with opaphid?
4) when do these three groups intersect and where do they split?
5) are there any rogue splinter groups? like orthadox reformists?

I completely agree with you!! I've been asking the same questions since we got to the bunker. The white board full of ideas really got me inspired. These are difficult questions, but they need answers.

lonelygirl15 wrote:

platypusrex256 wrote:sometimes you must ask questions that you think you've already answered:

1) who is part of the order?
2) who is part of the hym of one?
3) who is with opaphid?
4) when do these three groups intersect and where do they split?
5) are there any rogue splinter groups? like orthadox reformists?

I completely agree with you!! I've been asking the same questions since we got to the bunker. The white board full of ideas really got me inspired. These are difficult questions, but they need answers.

bree - if i can be straitforward, i'd like to say i've resurrected my theory that you are currently RIGHT now, completing the ceremony. the watchers are there to ensure your free will is not interfered with. however, there is another group that may or may not be affiliated with the watchers or the hym of one and they plan to manipulate your free will. the problem is, we don't know who is who!

good luck bree and if you're ever sick of those boys, know that you're always welcome at my place ;-p

- platypusrex

how is this the ceremony? wtf?

platypusrex256 wrote: the problem is, we don't know who is who!

- platypusrex

That's right, we don't. ...But guess who has the technical skill to narrow the field? That's right. Daniel.

kwicherbichen wrote:how is this the ceremony? wtf?

the ceremony is bree learning to use her own free will and seperating herself from her parents. duh ;-p

Well there was stuff on the white board about Girls blood, something in it, having to do with the ceremony, so I don't see how Bree just living her life is the Ceremony.

And why would they have to kill her father? They could have easily convinced her to go to college or whatever, and she could have done so on her own. It still falls in the category of Free Will.

I really don't see how all of this is the Ceremony... seriously.
Plus, we still need to find out the Aleister Crowley tie-in.

Chelseyrl wrote:Well there was stuff on the white board about Girls blood, something in it, having to do with the ceremony, so I don't see how Bree just living her life is the Ceremony.

And why would they have to kill her father? They could have easily convinced her to go to college or whatever, and she could have done so on her own. It still falls in the category of Free Will.

I really don't see how all of this is the Ceremony... seriously.
Plus, we still need to find out the Aleister Crowley tie-in.

maybe her father's not actualy dead. but regardless, we arn't sure if it was the watchers or the hym of one or the order or opaphid or who that "killed" her father.

there are layers and layers of potential disinformation. if the order or the hym of one (is there a difference?) is anything like the wiker man (which is possible) then they might be waiting for her to spill her own blood of her own free will (in some twisted sense of the term, free will?).

and no, concinving bree to go to college would not be bree using her free will. have you been to college? there is no free will in college ;-p

platypusrex256 wrote:maybe her father's not actualy dead. but regardless, we arn't sure if it was the watchers or the hym of one or the order or opaphid or who that "killed" her father.

Lucy was there, and we know she's in the Hymn of One. She was Bree's helper for the ceremony before any of the violent stuff started.

Lurker wrote:

platypusrex256 wrote:maybe her father's not actualy dead. but regardless, we arn't sure if it was the watchers or the hym of one or the order or opaphid or who that "killed" her father.

Lucy was there, and we know she's in the Hymn of One. She was Bree's helper for the ceremony before any of the violent stuff started.

a venn diagram might be in "order" ...heh heh. i have a feeling that none of this is going to be easy to sort out because of all the disinformation.

Okay, this is a LITTLE extreme...... to be a ceremony, but whatever. These people are mothafackin crazy.

So, let's answer these question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

1. Who is in the Order - Bree's parents?! Lucy, Alex? Gemma?
2. Hym of One - Alex? Old parents/dead people?
3. Opaphid - I thought this was some stupid thing on the side that I don't care about? Or I thought it WAS the Order!
4. I don't know. I thought they have not much to do with each other except there is a group called the WATCHERS who got yo back!
5. THE WATCHERS!!

platypusrex256 wrote:

Lurker wrote:

platypusrex256 wrote:maybe her father's not actualy dead. but regardless, we arn't sure if it was the watchers or the hym of one or the order or opaphid or who that "killed" her father.

Lucy was there, and we know she's in the Hymn of One. She was Bree's helper for the ceremony before any of the violent stuff started.

a venn diagram might be in "order" ...heh heh. i have a feeling that none of this is going to be easy to sort out because of all the disinformation.

My brother has been working on something like that. I'm not sure if he is going to post it, though. I'll work on him.

wow this thread is full of wishers I think, ready to tie this together with their last hope... all i think is that you (Bree) is in danger still, someone with so much knowledge of what a cult will go through is obviously a "wanted" person

I don't get it!!