Lonelygirl15

Anyone else think that the new video really lended itself well to the old ligatures? I assume that puzzle is dead, otherwise there'd be some chatter about it here. Right?

Ed, the title you chose for this comment is ambiguous. So is the comment itself. My gut reaction was to move it immediately to the General Discussion area, but my curiosity was piqued.

Can you elaborate?

EdWont wrote:Anyone else think that the new video really lended itself well to the old ligatures? I assume that puzzle is dead, otherwise there'd be some chatter about it here. Right?

gotta say, it is apparent that op/tach/bro fans think this game is dead,,,,,wish it wasn't so.
edited out things that would probably be unsavory.


sad that they all left, but sadder still that they didn't stay. i miss it!

yup it belongs in the gen dis apo

OK, I moved it. Perhaps Ed will add more later.

I'm still here...mourning the loss of Oppy

yup I cam e running back to the oppy stuff from this vid too. It's sad it has simmered off since the plots became more linked.

ApotheosisAZ wrote:Ed, the title you chose for this comment is ambiguous. So is the comment itself. My gut reaction was to move it immediately to the General Discussion area, but my curiosity was piqued.

Can you elaborate?

Hey there, sorry for the ambiguity. Sometimes I write things in certain ways...

Seriously, though. In the video where Bree talks about the Hymn of One, she declares that the religion is simply a front for the Order. This plays into how each of the ligatures was a faction of some sort. We weren't sure how the religion and the Order interacted, but it was clear (from Tachy's e-mails) that the ligatures showed different branches. Now, since we know that the religion is a front for the Order, then (if we were still playing) I would say that one of the ligatures is a symbol for the religion (or the part of the Order that oversees the religion). Now, if this were the case, there'd be certain implications about the Watchers. Specifically, that they are a part of the Order but NOT part of the Hymn of One (assuming that distinct ligatures implies distinct function) which would slightly illuminate why a Watcher would kill the person pursuing the gang- they're not a solitary entity.

EdWont wrote:Specifically, that they are a part of the Order but NOT part of the Hymn of One (assuming that distinct ligatures implies distinct function) which would slightly illuminate why a Watcher would kill the person pursuing the gang- they're not a solitary entity.

I beleive this does clear up your post. Thanks!

However, let me add a hypothetical.

If I were an operative for a branch of the order that carries out "hits" on rogue agents, I would certainly dress in a manner that would leave witnesses beleiving that I were someone else. Perhaps a Watcher.

ApotheosisAZ wrote:

EdWont wrote:Specifically, that they are a part of the Order but NOT part of the Hymn of One (assuming that distinct ligatures implies distinct function) which would slightly illuminate why a Watcher would kill the person pursuing the gang- they're not a solitary entity.

I beleive this does clear up your post. Thanks!

However, let me add a hypothetical.

If I were an operative for a branch of the order that carries out "hits" on rogue agents, I would certainly dress in a manner that would leave witnesses beleiving that I were someone else. Perhaps a Watcher.

Great point. I thought about the rogue agent thing, and the only thing that didn't rest easy with me is that we know there was at least two (probably more) people involved in the abduction/torture. I say this because of the messaging...the information was being sent to somebody. Then again, I could probably argue against this as well...I don't know! I guess we have to wait it out. Peace!

I think I understand what you mean. Do you think one of the symbols from the Tachyon puzzle represents the Hymn Of One?

Honestly, I have no idea. I mean...I don't know how everything fits together since all that controversy happened. Granted I'm not as good about checking what's happening as I should be...but is Tachyon even a character still?

That all being said, assuming that everything that happened prior to the controversy still is part of the ARG, I still wouldn't want to comment. It's tempting to say 'yes' because that would give me the feeling that we've made some headway, but something doesn't feel right about that. Specifically, the ligatures looked to be a religious text themselves. This leads me to think that although the religion is a front for the Order, the line isn't so distinct...at least not to those who aren't in-the-know. That is to say that the higher ups of the religion have their own agendas and goals, and they use the religion to obtain those goals. They may have their own subordinates working outside of the religion (the way the Pope hires the Swiss national guard as bodyguards, for example*), but on the outside they present themselves as being workers for the Hymn of One faith. Thus, we have the religious front (put out by the top members of the church) for the Order (the top members of the church and their subordinates who lay outside the religion). Not sure if I made that clear...oh well.

*I'm not saying the Pope or Catholic church abduct people and try to get them to do ceremonies...I was just trying to show that it's plausible for a head of a religion to have subordinates who aren't within the religion.

EDIT: Yeah, this pretty much contradicts my initial thoughts on the matter...but it seems more plausible to me, the more I think about it.