Where are the boys?

silvermoon · Post by **silvermoon** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:57 am

The big question for me, after watching Psychological Torture, is where are the boys now?

Does the Order still physically have them, or have they been dumped somewhere?

Will the next video be them escaping the room to search for Bree, or infiltrating the compound to search for her?

Marbella · Post by **Marbella** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:03 am

I wonder about this a little bit, but I really think they WANT Jonas for some reason.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:17 am

Well...

It's interesting, as Jonas and Daniel, both at some point said "Who's Bree."
This made me wonder about what Alex said ("Who says your parents even remember you?") I wonder about drugs/hypnosis/brainwashing that would effect memory, to the point that you may forget people.

So I question whether Daniel went home, just boggled at where he was, and what he drank (*giggle*) not even remembering Bree. And I question whether Jonas remember Bree, or even working against the order.

We know that Jonas' family has order ties. Why couldn't the order make it appear that Jonas was with the Order, and make Bree forget that she ever ran from the Order. There enhancing the possibilty that they could use both Bree and Jonas in the ceremony.

Jo_16_2 · Post by **Jo_16_2** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:17 pm

i just remembered this, the order said to daniel to go home, but it didnt say anything to jonas. if daniel is out there now (which i doubt), is jonas still in?

Killthesmiley wrote:Well...

It's interesting, as Jonas and Daniel, both at some point said "Who's Bree."
This made me wonder about what Alex said ("Who says your parents even remember you?") I wonder about drugs/hypnosis/brainwashing that would effect memory, to the point that you may forget people.

the only "who?" was from jonas when daniel asked him if he had seen bree, he probably said "who?" because he had just waken up, and with the chlorophorm stuff, but he does remember bree,

LGPedia wrote:Voice: Look at me! This is no game, Jonas. You wouldn't want something like that to happen to your friend Bree, now, would you Jonas?

in that part you can see that he obviously remembers bree, and so does daniel.

Languorous Lass · Post by **Languorous Lass** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:25 pm

I think that what others suggested in the video thread makes the most sense: that after torturing them, the Order dumped the boys in some hotel room. There's a camera in the room to make sure that they don't decide to come looking for Bree. Daniel was slapping Jonas around because Jonas was still out when Daniel came to.

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:03 pm

Also in addition to what I said in other posts, freeing them will give us willing rescuers. Plot wise. Even if Daniel has to remind Jonas of who Bree is.

krmurr87 · Post by **krmurr87** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:45 pm

i think they were dumped some where maybe a hotel, but they're obviously still being video taped by the Order so I agree they want to keep track of them for some reason or another.

cittiecait · Post by **cittiecait** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:27 pm

if the ordercould make them forget about all this stuff happening why wouldnt they have done it previously... theyve had plenty of opertunity. i mean the fact that the watcher was outside jonas' house he could have taken them/ bree at that point and given her the "medicine" to make her forget... it is obviously about timing/ a plan... and anyway if she just forgets... wheres the fun for us, the audience? there is obviously so much more to come!!! come on tachyon we're waiting....

Ravensnow27 · Post by **Ravensnow27** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:47 pm

Killthesmiley wrote:Well...

It's interesting, as Jonas and Daniel, both at some point said "Who's Bree."
This made me wonder about what Alex said ("Who says your parents even remember you?") I wonder about drugs/hypnosis/brainwashing that would effect memory, to the point that you may forget people.

So I question whether Daniel went home, just boggled at where he was, and what he drank (*giggle*) not even remembering Bree. And I question whether Jonas remember Bree, or even working against the order.

We know that Jonas' family has order ties. Why couldn't the order make it appear that Jonas was with the Order, and make Bree forget that she ever ran from the Order. There enhancing the possibilty that they could use both Bree and Jonas in the ceremony.

Well if Bree and Jonas dont remember each other it'll be easier to
mate them

giddeanx · Post by **giddeanx** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:41 pm

There is an unhealthy amount of Jonas and Daniel breeding in this forum. I think I would be more afraid of the people in this forum than of the order.

chershaytoute · Post by **chershaytoute** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:49 pm

Oh, gads, gidd, does that mean that we are the Order...and we are putting together this ceremony?

Oh, Z!! What do you know about all this?

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:09 pm

It seems to me that Jonas was given a different drug than Daniel. When Jonas woke up, he was still out of it, and couldn't feel his legs. Was this because the drug they gave him caused partial paralysis, therefore keeping him from going anywhere? However, DB, being less effected by the drug given him, was able to walk away...the way the Order wanted him too.

Marbella · Post by **Marbella** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:12 pm

Kelly and Jo could both have valid points. The Order probably wants all three to totally forget each other, much in the same way that Jonas' parents forgot him. However, I really hope LL isn't right that the boys were dropped off in a hotel room. I STILL believe they kept Jonas. They were working on trying to get him to remember his parents. I believe that was a ploy to instill loyalty in him to the Order.

LongLostPoster's point is very good. His theory co-incides with mine. They WANT Daniel to go, but not Jonas.

chershaytoute · Post by **chershaytoute** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:26 pm

I've watched the vid a few times now, but watching through a continuing several day migraine is different than watching with a real brain... <sigh>

Are we certain that this is a hotel bathroom? To me, it could be that...or a dorm-type bathroom...or a cold-sterile bathroom wherever cold-sterile bathrooms happen... Just a question to spur discussion...

About the drugs given... The drug given to the boys could have been the same one, but could have a different effect on both, or DB could have built up something of an immunity last time through the Order's drug pharmacopoeia? More for discussion...

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:39 pm

Or maybe even different doses of the same drug, cher.