My Guess...

[R1kk1]

Ok, I've been surfing alot for a while, but never really posted, so hi! This is just my stab at the whole entire plot.

Ok, this is what I think:

Tachyon's encrypted disk contains the truth about Bree's past, that Bree needs to learn at the right time. Her parents may be descendants of Aliester Crowley, the guy who is on Bree's bedroom wall.

Also, her parents could also be the people that Gemma was talking about, the thing about the girl completeing the ceremony but then dissapearing. Bree says in 'I Completed the Ceremony' that after the ceremony, she needs to be completely disciplined after the ceremony finishes.

But after the previous girl completed the ceremony, she dissapeared, and The Order lost her, therefor they moved onto the next person or descendant, Bree.

But Daniel found out everything about the whole ceremonial type thing over the internet and managed to talk Bree out of it because she didn't know enough. Noone did.

So Bree went to Daniels, which The Order didn't like and tried to use Bree's parents to get to her by kidnapping them. But they left the message in P. Monkey.

Bree then went on he road and started taking advice from Gemma, who seemed to have control on things, but then turned out to be working for The Order, but in her videos, she contradicted herself alot, telling Bree to do some things that would help her, but then telling her to do stuff such as go home.

I believe The Order were using Gemma, but she let her concious get the better of her so tried helping Bree when she could.

The Gemma dissapeared after telling Bree she was being watched because The Order must have realised she was also hleping Bree so stopped making her post videos.

That's where Tachyon and Brother come in. In the video where Daniel filmed the fake ceremony, you can see Brothers SUV while they are driving up the mountain. Brother has been keeping tabs on them for ages now and watching their every move.

He finds the truth about Gemma and plans to kill her, but doesn't, which is why he apologises to Tachyon in his latest Voicemail message. Gemma goes into hiding.

Bree and Daniel find Jonas. They live with them while Daniel finds out about the Injections and cameras in his and Bree's bedrooms. He scarpers and lives with Jonas too after realising he is REALLY in this stuff...

Then of course Bree's dead gets in touch with Bree and they get together. I believe Bree's dad started telling Bree EVERYTHING he knew, but not being very high, he didn'#t know much. The Order jump him and I really believe that they DO kill him. They don't touch Bree because they werne't her real parents, so have no link to Aliester Crowley, unlike Bree. Therefor they dont touch her, which Jonas picks up on.

Then Daniel gets kidnapped and they get him to do the video. obviuosly the whole Bree/Tachyon link get's setup and they get ready to rescure Daniel, which they do.

Tachyon gives the disk to Bree, she even says that Tachyon learnt everything about The Order and is just investigating OpAphid. Tachyon knows Bree is a descendant which is why the Order NEEDS Bree and only Bree for the ceremony.

OpAphid are a part of The Order that will benefit hugely from the Ceremony. I'm not sure why, but I feel that they will get alot out of the ceremony, which is why they do anything to rid of Tachyon and Brother, and get Bree.

It also explains why no-one EVER touches Bree, because they can't have anyone else.

I hope you guys understand this, and that it's not TOO long... First post too

Replies would be cool.

I probably have loadsa loopholes and look forward to getting completely ripped apart

Rik

EDIT: Forgot to mention that Bree says she won't talk to her mother for a while. Maybe this is becasuse her mother is high in The Order and helped out with things that Bree didn't agree with, so Bree doesn't want to talk to her. I'm not too sure about this...

[Sami]

Are you talking about what's going to happen, or what already happend?
(And Hi! btw)

edit: I think I got it

[7Harry7Potter7]

Wow, that's an interesting opinion.

Oh, btw, Hi! I'm HP. Welcome to the forum. By the looks of this analysis, you'll fit in perfectly.

I have a question, though. Why would the Order shoot someone who was a descendant or AC, who is supposedly the founder of their religion, but not someone who wasn't a descedant? Does that make sense?

[R1kk1]

A bit of both, I should have made myself clearer...

Most of what I wrote is what i think has happened in the past vids, the main thing being how Bree is a descendant of Aliester Crowley which explains alot.

What I think is going to happen is that the disk tell's Bree about all of it. I'm not too sure how she'll react, but hey, that's why it's a guess and not a certainty...

[Sami]

It was clear, and well wrote. It was just this sentence at the beginning that throw me off a bit:

Ok, so far what I think is going to happen is:

[R1kk1]

Wow, that's an interesting opinion.

Oh, btw, Hi! I'm HP. Welcome to the forum. By the looks of this analysis, you'll fit in perfectly.

I have a question, though. Why would the Order shoot someone who was a descendant or AC, who is supposedly the founder of their religion, but not someone who wasn't a descedant? Does that make sense?

Erm, maybe I didn't make myself clear, sorry :S

They shot Bree's 'dad' but they arnet her real parents. The person they shot was just the man looking after bree, like a foster parent, not Bree's bio. parent.

Her bio. parent is also a descendant of AC, but run off after the ceremony Gemma spoke about so all The Order have left is Bree...

I hope this makes sense :S

EDIT: Wow that sentence is horribly worded, I'll change that, lol.

[Balmung]

Tachyon's encrypted disk contains the truth about Bree's past, that Bree needs to learn at the right time. Her parents may be descendants of Aleister Crowley, the guy who is on Bree's bedroom wall.

Well, we don't really know anything about what's on the disc. if you mean you're ust taking a guess, then fine. that's what a lot of people think, though there's no realy evidence showing what's on it.

I don't think they're related to aleister crowley, he's kindof the "Founder" of the religion, if i remember right. it's like having a picture of Jesus on the wall.

Also, her parents could also be the people that Gemma was talking about, the thing about the girl completeing the ceremony but then disappearing. Bree says in 'I Completed the Ceremony' that after the ceremony, she needs to be completely disciplined after the ceremony finishes.

But after the previous girl completed the ceremony, she disappeared, and The Order lost her, therefor they moved onto the next person or descendant, Bree.

I don't think Gemma was talking about her parents at all with that story [not sure where you got that from..], and what she meant by saying that the girl disappeared was that gem was giving her a warning. she thought that if bree did the ceremony, she might disappear too.

I believe The Order were using Gemma, but she let her concious get the better of her so tried helping Bree when she could.

The Gemma dissapeared after telling Bree she was being watched because The Order must have realised she was also hleping Bree so stopped making her post videos.

Gemma does give a lot of conflicting advice. I think that you could be correct, and her conscience could be getting the best of her, or she could have been told to give some good advice so as to gain credibility. it's becomes obvious very fast when someone tell nothing but lies.

That's where Tachyon and Brother come in. In the video where Daniel filmed the fake ceremony, you can see Brothers SUV while they are driving up the mountain. Brother has been keeping tabs on them for ages now and watching their every move.

i'm 95% sure that was someone from the order's SUV. are you sure that's brother's? how do you know?

Then of course Bree's dead gets in touch with Bree and they get together. I believe Bree's dad started telling Bree EVERYTHING he knew, but not being very high, he didn'#t know much. The Order jump him and I really believe that they DO kill him. They don't touch Bree because they werne't her real parents, so have no link to Aliester Crowley, unlike Bree. Therefor they dont touch her, which Jonas picks up on.

ok so i definately don't think anyone in this story is related to aleister crowley. if you think she/her family is, i'm interested to know how you know.

also, they didn't hurt bree because they still need her for the ceremony, and daniel grabbed her and drove off before they could take her.

OpAphid are a part of The Order that will benefit hugely from the Ceremony. I'm not sure why, but I feel that they will get alot out of the ceremony, which is why they do anything to rid of Tachyon and Brother, and get Bree.

It also explains why no-one EVER touches Bree, because they can't have anyone else.

I agree with you that they must stand to gain a lot by bree doing the ceremony, and that she is the only person they know of that could do it. it could be that she is the only person who could possibly perform it, or that she's the only person Oppy's found right now.

Bree says she won't talk to her mother for a while. Maybe this is becasuse her mother is high in The Order and helped out with things that Bree didn't agree with, so Bree doesn't want to talk to her. I'm not too sure about this...

i think there are two possibilities as to why she won't talk to her mom. it could be that her mom is a high-ranking officer in the Order, and she doesn't want anything to do with her, or that her mom is stuck in the order [kinda like how you can't leave a gang or the mafia], and she doesn't want to get her mom killed the way she did her dad.

[R1kk1]

Well, we don't really know anything about what's on the disc. if you mean you're ust taking a guess, then fine. that's what a lot of people think, though there's no realy evidence showing what's on it.

I don't think they're related to aleister crowley, he's kindof the "Founder" of the religion, if i remember right. it's like having a picture of Jesus on the wall.

Your right, I'm taking a complete guess, it popped to my head and I thought it could be legit.

Also, the AC thing, I just think that if she wasn't special, then they would use anyone, I know Lucy apparently told Bree theres not time to train anyone else, but I think that's a lame excuse. They could have spent the time chasing Bree (A good 4months) to train someone else. Bree has to be special and being related to AC could be it.

I don't think Gemma was talking about her parents at all with that story [not sure where you got that from..], and what she meant by saying that the girl disappeared was that gem was giving her a warning. she thought that if bree did the ceremony, she might disappear too.

True, this bit confused me a bit to, but what you says makes more sense. I just thought that THAT girl (who did the cermony) would have to have had to be a descendant of AC to fit in with my theory of Bree being a descendant, making them 2 girls sisters, and the family that run away Bree's reall family, if you get me.

Gemma does give a lot of conflicting advice. I think that you could be correct, and her conscience could be getting the best of her, or she could have been told to give some good advice so as to gain credibility. it's becomes obvious very fast when someone tell nothing but lies.

Yup, that's what I think too.

i'm 95% sure that was someone from the order's SUV. are you sure that's brother's? how do you know?

There's a thread somewhere on this forum all about Bro.'s SUV, and it just matched a few of those pic's, so, I guess this is a prediction too.

ok so i definately don't think anyone in this story is related to aleister crowley. if you think she/her family is, i'm interested to know how you know.

also, they didn't hurt bree because they still need her for the ceremony, and daniel grabbed her and drove off before they could take her.

Yeah, I see what your saying, but I refer to what I typed at the beginning, how She's one of a kind and they cant hurt her at all, I mean, they had so many chances to just grab her and not let her go, force her into it, but they never have, which makes me think she is a descendant, the founder of everything they believe in so they DON'T want to hurt her in case of upsetting some more powerful being.

i think there are two possibilities as to why she won't talk to her mom. it could be that her mom is a high-ranking officer in the Order, and she doesn't want anything to do with her, or that her mom is stuck in the order [kinda like how you can't leave a gang or the mafia], and she doesn't want to get her mom killed the way she did her dad.

Those could both be completel true theories aswell, I was never to certain about the mum situation.

[Balmung]

Your right, I'm taking a complete guess, it popped to my head and I thought it could be legit.

Also, the AC thing, I just think that if she wasn't special, then they would use anyone, I know Lucy apparently told Bree theres not time to train anyone else, but I think that's a lame excuse. They could have spent the time chasing Bree (A good 4months) to train someone else. Bree has to be special and being related to AC could be it.

I'm not saying she isn't special, she has to be special in one way or another. i'm just saying that just because she's special doesn't mean she's a descendant of AC.

True, this bit confused me a bit to, but what you says makes more sense. I just thought that THAT girl (who did the cermony) would have to have had to be a descendant of AC to fit in with my theory of Bree being a descendant, making them 2 girls sisters, and the family that run away Bree's reall family, if you get me. Confused

i kinda get what you were saying now, but i don't think that's very likely, compared to the warning theory.

There's a thread somewhere on this forum all about Bro.'s SUV, and it just matched a few of those pic's, so, I guess this is a prediction too.

do you think you could tell me where that thread is? i'd like to read it.

Yeah, I see what your saying, but I refer to what I typed at the beginning, how She's one of a kind and they cant hurt her at all, I mean, they had so many chances to just grab her and not let her go, force her into it, but they never have, which makes me think she is a descendant, the founder of everything they believe in so they DON'T want to hurt her in case of upsetting some more powerful being.

What chances do you mean? I don't think they've really had any good opportunities to take her. and also, kidnapping someone and forcing them to do something [the ceremony] against their will doesn't necessarily involve hurting them. also, some have said that the ceremony could only be valid if it was done on one's own free will, but you can make someone want something. i.e. "Daniel dies unless you do the ceremony"

she'd get real eager to do it if they said that.

[Nieriel.Manwathiel]

i still say

Oppy = Bree's "Mom" (we've never seen a close-up of her face)
Tachyon = Bree's Bio-mom (explains the sudden interest in Bree in particular)

or Tachyon = the Order's version of Internal Affairs because OpAPHID has been going too gung-ho. I mean, we've heard from Oppy, but what about anyone else within the Order?

[Lurker]

i still say

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Tachyon = Bree's Bio-mom (explains the sudden interest in Bree in particular)

Tachyon's only a few years older than Bree, so that seems highly unlikely.

or Tachyon = the Order's version of Internal Affairs because OpAPHID has been going too gung-ho. I mean, we've heard from Oppy, but what about anyone else within the Order?

What do you mean by "too gung-ho"?

[Nieriel.Manwathiel]

i still say

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Tachyon = Bree's Bio-mom (explains the sudden interest in Bree in particular)

Tachyon's only a few years older than Bree, so that seems highly unlikely.

......... o くそ! i had a good theory going there!!!

or Tachyon = the Order's version of Internal Affairs because OpAPHID has been going too gung-ho. I mean, we've heard from Oppy, but what about anyone else within the Order?

What do you mean by "too gung-ho"?

too gung-ho = too eager, too gun-happy (although i doubt there's any gun-happy that's TOO gun-happy ), etc. in other words; the Order is tired of OpAPHID's over-violent ways and have decided to put a stop to it.

way to ruin my tachy theory, jerk! LOL

that was an uber-nice/hilarious way to disprove my theory. "...so it's highly unlikely". "Highly unlikely" to say the least!!!

edit - i change hair colors almost as often as i change my mind....

[Lurker]

......... o くそ! i had a good theory going there!!!

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way to ruin my tachy theory, jerk! LOL

Sorry about that.

too gung-ho = too eager, too gun-happy (although i doubt there's any gun-happy that's TOO gun-happy ), etc. in other words; the Order is tired of OpAPHID's over-violent ways and have decided to put a stop to it.

I understood the term, but just didn't pick up on how you meant it in this case. Sorry.

The impression I've gotten from the ARG is actually that the whole idea of OpAphid is that it's the side of the Order that handles the really messy stuff, and that Tachyon's group has been battling with them for a long time. At least since last February, but my guess is it goes back years.

Op's modus operandi seems to be a mixture of espionage and violence, to me. Last year, for instance, Gemma led one of her operatives (War Pylol) to Brother's door and blasted his place into kindling. Also, we can't forget that the "D" in "Aphid" means "Destroy," so it's certainly something they're advised to do when it seems necessary.

that was an uber-nice/hilarious way to disprove my theory. "...so it's highly unlikely". "Highly unlikely" to say the least!!!

Glad you got a kick out of it.

[longlostposter]

The only clue we have as to either Brother's or Tachyon's age is what is posted on their You Tube account, which the Order can view. It makes sense that it could not be the truth.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that Tachyon is Bree's biological parent, and that Bree is the offspring of a ceremonial sex majik type of thing; possibly the ceremony that the Order wants Bree to do.

Nothing these characters post on the Internet or do in videos is necessarily the truth, especially since the trio would now be making misleading videos to throw the Order off.

[Lurker]

The only clue we have as to either Brother's or Tachyon's age is what is posted on their You Tube account, which the Order can view. It makes sense that it could not be the truth.

In an e-mail to a forum member, Brother said that he's about 10 years older than Bree, Daniel, and Jonas, and that Tachyon is closer to their age. I'm guessing she's in her early 20's.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that Tachyon is Bree's biological parent, and that Bree is the offspring of a ceremonial sex majik type of thing; possibly the ceremony that the Order wants Bree to do.

If Tachyon were somehow her biological mother, it wouldn't be due to the ceremony. It was Tachyon's sister who was chosen, not her.