Lonelygirl15

Now that he's back with Bree and Jonas (and maybe Tachyon and Brother), are they all at risk? Could Daniel end up betraying them all? I mean, the Order did 'treat him better than' Bree did (which isn't saying much). Did the pizza, ice cream and spin art really seduce him? What is he capable of doing in order to get more? Is Tachyon going to deprogram him? Was he suffering from Stockholm syndrom (where the captive comes to sypathize with his captors a la Pattie Hurst)? If not, how did OP get DanielBeast to say such things?

I'm surprised that Daniel would be Brainwashed so easily. I always thought him as a free thinker, a rebel of sorts. Because Bree was very into the cult, and only started questioning it because of Daniel, she actually seemed weaker minded than Daniel.

i don't think they brainwashed him. if you listen to the video he says "they had pizza, i had ice cream." i think this means they drugged him up.

I think he was drugged , in the last video he was acting as if he was coming off of something.

i know! i hope the drugs don't have any lasting side effects!

Who knows..if he was spin programmed...he might still be under the influence of the order in some way.

poor beastie!

I don't recommend any spin art for at least a year or so.

I guess all will be revealed in the next vid. Until then I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions.

They could be at risk now that Daniels back... it would explain alot, Bree's fake parents (pawns of the Order) allowed him into her room. Daniel is probably just a time-bomb waiting to go off...

Bahaha, reminds me of when Zoolander was hypnotized by spinning.

pish posh....

Nah i'm sure beastie was all drugged up or somethin. there's no way they actually convinced him to defect, he's too strong willed for that.

also, cassie did something VERY similar, and she's the LAST person that OpAphid would get to defect.

DB=Zombified - and long before this incident. Hope he can be deprogrammed.

I advanced a theory on another thread (the drinking problems thread, I think) that he is like the Manturian candidate in that he does not know he has been brainwashed and will not act on it unless there is a 'trigger' (although I can't think of what the trigger would be). In other words he is now a 'sleeper agent' for the order.

Another poster pointed out that he had changed his shirt in the 'miss me' vid to one he had been seen wearing in an earlier video. Did he go to the bar with a change of clothing? I am certain this was intentional on the Creators part because they made so much of what he was wearing in 'For the Ladies'. Changing his clothes to some random t-shirt wouldn't neccessarily mean anything. Changing into a shirt we've seen before might either mean he brought a change of clothes with him or that OP took some of his clothes from his room when she had the video camera installed.

Did he take a change of clothing because he intended to 'hook up' with Kathy McPhee? or because he knew he might not be coming back that night for another reason.

No, I don't think D-man would consciously betray them to the order but perhaps the spin art was used to program him to follow OPs commands unconsciously under certaian circumstances.

And, yes I know that is unrealistic and oh, so Hollywood a plot device but so what? We've been suspending our disbelief right and left here.

Edited for clarity and typos