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Xeniph - [discussion] Have you seen my vids?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:20 pm
by Xeniph
Okay, so I'm not blatantly advertising my vids. I just want to know if anyone has seen them. I've seen a lot of discussion of all the other fanvids, but mine seem to be being dismissed or ignored. I know I'm gonna get flamers on here telling me how crappy I look and so on, but for those of you who are sincere...
1) What can I do to make my vids more...I dunno...interesting to the general public (ie: talked about)
2) What do you think of them in general? Anything I can work on?
3) Would anyone be interested if I did something that would let people become involved in the storyline? (I know, not as exciting as Bree's story, but I try. ^_^)
reply to Xeniph
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:09 pm
by gogo
Hi Xeniph-
I have seen your videos, and I wish I had some helpful remarks. It seems to me that finding an audience is pretty complicated as it hinges on a few things. It certainly has to do with presenting a compelling video. But I also think there are a few other issues that make it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation. Sometimes it has to do with the whim and fancy of the current lg15 forum posters at a particular time. If there are people looking for mysteries, then they tend to go for videos like TravelerJ. People who are looking for a lighthearted romp through the Breeniverse can find it in the adorable and effervescent NikkiBower. Those interested in creepiness can go for itscassie. Itskassie is great for a laugh. Paul and Andrea are great for a connection to Bree and Daniel's past life. Greystoke is great, well, for Greystoke. Some people have stories or intriguing visuals or neat one-shot deals, etc. Unless one fits into a unique niche and satisfies
someone's need for
something, it seems to me that having people see and discuss videos could also have to do with longevity. Or perhaps it has to do with the lg15 story (giving people something to watch while waiting for the next lg15 video).
Keep toying with ideas that engage you. Enjoying the time spent making videos is most important to me (but I make a pretty cheesy video). Eventually, I am sure people will begin to notice.
As I check over the spelling of this reply, it seems like I haven't really given you anything but encouragement (no helpful ideas, no slick editing tricks--I just don't have any). I am sorry if I sound like a mother on some sappy sitcom who says, "Just be yourself..." It take a lot of courage to put yourself out there, so good for you. Just be persistent and realistic about your videos. The skillful, artistic ARG OpAphid was a fan-creation, however, I don't think there will be many fan creations that crossover into the story unless they are "OpAphid good." Just enjoy your ability to be creative and allow yourself to keep getting better (yes I know, this comes from a person who spend more time typing text for videos than editing video footage

)
Anyhow, hang in there.
gogo
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:14 pm
by TJ Marsh
Xeniph i have watched your video's, well i watch everyones, i love to see how everyone interacts with the story and i do hope to see more of your video's along with everyone elses.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:27 pm
by Xeniph
Thanks Iris and gogo! I will take your advice. Everyone else: I'll be waiting to hear from you!
*salutes*
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:32 pm
by Xeniph
Let me also clarify point three...I'm talking about something like taking suggestions as to where my Dad might be or what to do next...I've sort of hit a dead end there. I don't know where else to go that might help.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:38 pm
by TJ Marsh
Try contacting other people that make Fan video's maybe that will help.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:46 pm
by trainer101
Xeniph,
There's nothing wrong with a little shameless self promotion. You can use this section to announce to the entire world (well, our little piece of it) that you have a new video out. Make sure you provide a link.
Trainer
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:47 pm
by Xeniph
haha. Thanks, trainer, I'll do that, but I usually don't like to annoy people with blatant self-promotion. Seems like I'm beggin for attention. Which I am. LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT MEEEE! *cough cough* Okay, now that I've got that out of my system, back to the topic at hand.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:49 pm
by Xeniph
Iris2009 wrote:Try contacting other people that make Fan video's maybe that will help.

Did that with some of them. Nikki B. said she'd try to help, but Cassie hasn't replied. So far none of the others have, either. Seems like their so interested in getting "canon" that they're focusing on all their own storylines and aren't interested in interacting with each other. Personally, I think it would be great!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:51 pm
by TJ Marsh
Xeniph wrote:Iris2009 wrote:Try contacting other people that make Fan video's maybe that will help.

Did that with some of them. Nikki B. said she'd try to help, but Cassie hasn't replied. So far none of the others have, either. Seems like their so interested in getting "canon" that they're focusing on all their own storylines and aren't interested in interacting with each other. Personally, I think it would be great!
Im sure some one out there will help!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:07 am
by Beckers
I have not seen them and I probably never will.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:24 pm
by Brucker
I think you need more shameless self-promotion. I haven't seen your videos because I didn't know about them until now. Give me a link!
My advice is the advice I try to give myself in any artistic endeavor: Think about what you really want to do, and then do it! Sounds over-simple, but my point is that I've made three videos (one not yet released) that I made simply because I thought it would be fun. I don't actually care if people watch them or rate them high or tell me my videos rule/suck. If you know what you want and you have fun doing it, little else matters.
Now if you want fame and fortune from your videos, then you're obviously going to have to work harder at it, and you may not succeed in the end, so be ready for that. Feedback is good for that obviously, but you'll never please everybody, so make sure you're pleasing yourself first. (I know what readers are thinking, don't go there...)
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:09 pm
by Luminous
Yes, I have watched your videos, and I enjoy them. I especially enjoy watching your progress from your first video to your most recent. There are so many fan fic vids popping up now, that sometimes you do have to make a little noise to get noticed. I'm glad you posted. Keep at it and you will find your audience

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:01 am
by Marbella
Xenith, your videos intrigue me a lot and I enjoy them.
The last one you did really stood out in my mind.
I really love the unfloudering support here that I feel from the Creators and general forum moderators, along with my friends here on the forum. The encouragement has helped me feel confident to take more risks to grow and develop as a producer, actor, etc.
Remember that each time you promote yourself, you promote lonelygirl, too. They get a free ad. Little by little, you grow to have a style in your own right, and have the opportunity to have a creative growth experience. That's why there's nothing wrong with shouting it out!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:32 am
by ApotheosisAZ
I have seen all of them now, Xeniph. I had seen a couple of them before, but I just watched the others on your Revver account.
Xeniph's Videos
My answers to your questions:
1) Shameless self-promotion is not to be looked down upon. It has served me well.
2) In general, I liked all your videos. The best advice I can offer is this: don't criticize yourself or your own abilities in your videos.
3) I would be very interested in seeing you incorporate something into the storyline that would let people become involved, provided you do it in a safe manner.
