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conspiracy theory

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:08 pm
by colbertnationgirl
"Gemma: I'm glad you went with your instincts on this, Bree. You were right not to trust the authorities. They may not be who they seem."

anyone else think that this has turned from an innocent girl playing in her bedroom to a huge conpiracy theory? what happened to this whole series :!: :?:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:13 pm
by Kasdeja
Um...have you been watching?? :wink:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:37 pm
by colbertnationgirl
Kasdeja wrote:Um...have you been watching?? :wink:
yes, but it disappoints me that the creators have made this into some totally unrealistic thing. i liked the whole on the run video and all the drama but the police being involved with bree's "religion" is just totally unbelievable. it's just kinda the last straw for me.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:40 pm
by spaciegirlreturn
only an optimist would find this so unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:49 pm
by iqfrenzy
yes, but it disappoints me that the creators have made this into some totally unrealistic thing. i liked the whole on the run video and all the drama but the police being involved with bree's "religion" is just totally unbelievable. it's just kinda the last straw for me.[/quote]

You should do some research on the Illuminati and the Masons.

Here is an example of part of the one of the oaths that Mason higher up in "The Order" take (by the way, Freemasons call themselves that name too):


Observe, it matters not what is the cause of the distress in which a Master Mason may be--if he has committed a crime, and is likely to be arrested, or has been arrested; if he is imprisoned, or likely to be imprisoned; if he is on trial in a court of justice and likely to be convicted, and a Master Mason is on the bench as a judge, or on the jury, or called as a witness; or is a Master Mason a sheriff and has the prisoner in custody; or is he a constable, having charge of the jury to whom the case is to be submitted; or is he a prosecuting attorney, appointed by the government to prosecute him for his crime, and secure his conviction--in any of these cases, the prisoner giving the grand hailing sign of distress, binds, by a most solemn oath, the judge, jurymen, sheriff, constable, witness, attorney, if a Master Mason, to seek to release him, at the hazard of his life. All who are acquainted with the practical results of this section of the Master's oath, as they appeared in the investigations connected with the murder of William Morgan, are aware that Master Masons kept this oath inviolate, when efforts were made to convict the kidnappers and murderers, insomuch that it was found impossible to execute the laws. Cases are reported as having repeatedly occurred in the administration of justice, where this hailing sign of distress has prevailed to rescue the guilty from the hand of justice.[/b][/code]

These freemason are creepy weird. They claim to be Christian, but this is the kind of oaths they take. Another oath states that "I will be bound to be cut open, have my bowels exposed for the birds to eat, should I give away any of the secrets of this order."

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:10 pm
by spaciegirlreturn
It's easy to rip apart random bits of text that you find here and there. Many people could do the same thing with the Bible, for instance. There's a lot of "creepy" and "weird" stuff in many organized religions'/groups' literature. Just want to point that out.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:11 pm
by Mirage
My uncle is a Mason, and not creepy weird at all. :D A little dorky, sure. :D

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:18 pm
by sarah
colbertnationgirl wrote:the police being involved with bree's "religion" is just totally unbelievable. it's just kinda the last straw for me.
You must not know much about the police and all the corruption therein.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:21 pm
by iqfrenzy
spaciegirl wrote:It's easy to rip apart random bits of text that you find here and there. Many people could do the same thing with the Bible, for instance. There's a lot of "creepy" and "weird" stuff in many organized religions'/groups' literature. Just want to point that out.
Did you actually read the quote, spacie? Of course, I did get it from the website of a former grandmaster for another project I was working on. Could be he had an ax to grind.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:25 pm
by spaciegirlreturn
Yeah, I read it. I don't find it shocking. I was more so refering to the bowels being cut open part though.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:19 am
by Languorous Lass
Ever read the graphic novel FROM HELL? It was written by Alan Moore, who also wrote WATCHMEN (one of Daniel's favorite books, according to his profile). Anyway, it's all about Jack the Ripper, and postulates that Jack was a doctor who was protected by the Crown because he was a Mason and because he had incriminating information about sexual indiscretions of the Royal Family. It's a lot more complicated than that brief description would indicate, and definitely worth reading. (I didn't see the Johnny Depp movie, but if it mentioned the Mason stuff at all, I doubt that it went into anywhere near the amount of detail that the book did.)

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:36 pm
by krmurr87
I still feel like they put that stuff in his profile for a reason

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:38 pm
by iqfrenzy
Languorous Lass wrote:Ever read the graphic novel FROM HELL? It was written by Alan Moore, who also wrote WATCHMEN (one of Daniel's favorite books, according to his profile). Anyway, it's all about Jack the Ripper, and postulates that Jack was a doctor who was protected by the Crown because he was a Mason and because he had incriminating information about sexual indiscretions of the Royal Family. It's a lot more complicated than that brief description would indicate, and definitely worth reading. (I didn't see the Johnny Depp movie, but if it mentioned the Mason stuff at all, I doubt that it went into anywhere near the amount of detail that the book did.)
Thanks, Lass, I'm going to look for it in the library; sounds like an interesting read.