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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:12 am
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
deagol wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:PS: So how's your sexy brother Smeagol? :smt112
Oh, he met his Doom alright, the poor wretch. He wasn't my brother though, just a cousin.
Really? The resemblance is so remarkable, I mistook you for his brother! :wink:

PS: Pirates 3 was terrible. So was Pirates 2. The first one had so much potential. It was amazing. Then, they killed it. But before they killed it, they brutally abused and tortured it, then they raped and sodomized it, and then they murdered it. Ugh. :smt092 :smt013

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:43 am
by deagol
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
deagol wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:PS: So how's your sexy brother Smeagol? :smt112
Oh, he met his Doom alright, the poor wretch. He wasn't my brother though, just a cousin.
Really? The resemblance is so remarkable, I mistook you for his brother! :wink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deagol
Tolkien wrote that Déagol was a Stoor Hobbit who lived in a small community bound by kinship ties - akin to a clan. He had a friend[1] named Sméagol, whose grandmother was the matriarch of the community.

[1] J. R. R. Tolkien (1987). The Fellowship of the Ring. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, "The Shadow of the Past". ISBN 0-395-08255-2.
They are popularly thought to be cousins, but Tolkien only calls them "friends" in The Lord of the Rings. In a later letter (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, #214) he writes that they were "evidently relatives".
And you're right about the resemblance...

Image

I guess in-breeding is quite common in clans, like, I'm sure both of my parents were doubly related to his.

Ok sorry for the off-topicness.

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:31 am
by nowherepixie
That's actually interesting. I always assumed they were brothers!

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:27 am
by LittleChickie
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
PS: Pirates 3 was terrible. So was Pirates 2. The first one had so much potential. It was amazing. Then, they killed it. But before they killed it, they brutally abused and tortured it, then they raped and sodomized it, and then they murdered it. Ugh. :smt092 :smt013

Wow. I didn't think it was that bad. ha Yeah, the first was, and remains, the best, but I don't think they completely murdered the next two.

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:43 pm
by Vintage_Angel
I have to admit something... when I saw the title of this video... I thought that it had to do something with the Little Mermaid "Kiss The Girl"... maybe its because I just sang that song for choir... and my friend did the line "sing with me".... why am I rambling!?

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:43 pm
by -R-
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
deagol wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: PS: Pirates 3 was terrible. So was Pirates 2. The first one had so much potential. It was amazing. Then, they killed it. But before they killed it, they brutally abused and tortured it, then they raped and sodomized it, and then they murdered it. Ugh. :smt092 :smt013
AGEED!!!!!!
100%!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:00 pm
by chershaytoute
deagol wrote:Ok sorry for the off-topicness.
Uhhhmmm... Just assumed you were SINGing at the time, deagol... :wink:

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:49 pm
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
deagol wrote:
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote:
deagol wrote: Oh, he met his Doom alright, the poor wretch. He wasn't my brother though, just a cousin.
Really? The resemblance is so remarkable, I mistook you for his brother! :wink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deagol
Tolkien wrote that Déagol was a Stoor Hobbit who lived in a small community bound by kinship ties - akin to a clan. He had a friend[1] named Sméagol, whose grandmother was the matriarch of the community.

[1] J. R. R. Tolkien (1987). The Fellowship of the Ring. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, "The Shadow of the Past". ISBN 0-395-08255-2.
They are popularly thought to be cousins, but Tolkien only calls them "friends" in The Lord of the Rings. In a later letter (The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, #214) he writes that they were "evidently relatives".
And you're right about the resemblance...

Image

I guess in-breeding is quite common in clans, like, I'm sure both of my parents were doubly related to his.

Ok sorry for the off-topicness.
Ah, I see! I always thought they were brothers, mostly because their names rhyme. I always thought it was kind of a play off the act of add "Shm" to the beginning of a word to communicate its lack of worth. I.E. "HA! Pirates 3 Smirates 3!" :lol:

But did you know that the Gollum in the first LOTR is different than the one in the next two? It's hard to notice because he is barely in the first. But after they decided to show him as Smeagol, they wanted to make Gollum look more like the actor (of whom I can't recall the name), so they adjusted his face to resemble Smeagol's. 8) I always found that interesting.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:01 am
by Nieriel.Manwathiel
JustAnotherLonelyGirl. wrote: But did you know that the Gollum in the first LOTR is different than the one in the next two? It's hard to notice because he is barely in the first. But after they decided to show him as Smeagol, they wanted to make Gollum look more like the actor (of whom I can't recall the name), so they adjusted his face to resemble Smeagol's. 8) I always found that interesting.
Andy Serkiss!!! Omg, do you whipper-snappers know nuthin?!
He was in costume on set in a white full-body leotard thing so the actors could have someone to interact with, and so the CGI guys wouldn't have to work so hard (they could see the percise interaction between Frodo and Sam and the on-set Gollum).
He has climbed mountains with them, swam rivers in freezing temperatures, everything!
I'd say an actual on-screen appearence is the least they could've done for him.
but i do believe they said they were actually in the middle of revising gollum when the 1st movie was filmed; even though the scariest monster is the unseen one, the few parts you do see don't quiet match up with later gollum (but all is forgiven, Preciousss!)

.....:owns all 3 Extended edition LOTR dvds:
......:has listened to the commentaries:
.......:-D Serkiss plays himself, Gollum and Smeagol on the commentaries!

I've watched so much stuff behind-the-scenes of LOTR, u'd be shocked!

begin edit -- btw, in the third movie, yes, Billy Boyd (aka Pippin) sang the song himself! They didn't know he could sing, and they had a few rough drafts of the song. But when he first sang in front of them, even though he was shakey with being nervous, everyone (Jackson included!) were crying cause he was so damn angelic! --end edit

(btw, the extra scenes really did make a difference; me and my sister practically had to hog-tie two friends of ours to sit through the second extended edition movie, but afterwards, they were like "why did they cut all that important stuff out?!" :) u watch with me, and u get a middle-earth history lesson to boot!)

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:41 am
by chershaytoute
Singing's getting a bit off-key here... :wink: <clears throat, ready to bellow along>

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:17 pm
by strikeon
Is it just me...or is that guy (carl?) hiding something behind his back? It looks like scissors to me.
(sorry if this has already been covered, btw)