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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:45 pm
by Killthesmiley
giddeanx wrote:You know Nikki could actually be working for the order.
Image Muah ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Just kidding, loved the video. Thanks for all the info I am always dieing for more.
that is the most creepiest jaw dropping GIF i've ever seen!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:29 pm
by giddeanx
Killthesmiley wrote:
giddeanx wrote:You know Nikki could actually be working for the order.
Image Muah ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Just kidding, loved the video. Thanks for all the info I am always dieing for more.
that is the most creepiest jaw dropping GIF i've ever seen!
Why...thank you. :smt112 . :lol:
It was hard to catch her in a mean look. Every other frame she looks like a kid at Disneyworld.

Noticed one thing that bothered me. In the apartment she is showing all the drugs and drug bottles. One of the drug bottles, the one that she took. Had a printed label as if it came from a pharmacy, and we know now that it didn't (thanks to nikki). If it came directly from the source why was it in a perscription bottle? Why wasn't it in the bottle it came in?

K ill stop now.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:10 pm
by trainer101
I posted this in Plot Discussion but I wanted to post it here also, as a response to myself. :D

If we assume that the Hymn of One has been Bree's religion since the beginning then there is one common thread that ties the religious faction with OpAphid (the enforcement faction) - Lucy.

My take is this:
- There are multiple factions within the Order

- The Hymn of One and OpAphid are two separate and distinct factions - independent of each other.

- Lucy is with the Hymn of One and acts as or acted as liaison with OpAphid.

- OpAphid was called upon by the Hymn of One liaison (Lucy) to assist with 'compelling' Bree to participate in the ceremony. That is why Lucy is seen with members of OpAphid in "Human Ransom".

- OpAphid failed to deliver and a rogue agent resorted to traditional (extreme) OpAphid measures in an attempt to deliver Bree.

- The Watcher stepped stepped in and "terminated" the rogue agent.

- Hymn of One (Lucy) terminated the 'contract' with OpAphid, deciding instead to handle matters internally.

- Tachyon has no personal interest with Bree - her vendetta is against OpAphid. To her, Bree was only significant while Oppy was interested in her. No more interest by Oppy means no more interest by Tachyon.

- Since Lucy has seen the videos from the beginning, we should assume that she sees them now. Whether she shares that information with other members of the Order is unknown - it appears, for whatever reason, she does not. Perhaps she has motives of her own.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:33 pm
by TJ Marsh
Sami wrote:Did you see the newest Iris video? :shock:
Is Iris Nikki's informant? :P jk
Hmm, i dont think i am, i'm to stupid to be :P

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:12 am
by Renegade
trainer101 wrote:I posted this in Plot Discussion but I wanted to post it here also, as a response to myself. :D

If we assume that the Hymn of One has been Bree's religion since the beginning then there is one common thread that ties the religious faction with OpAphid (the enforcement faction) - Lucy.

My take is this:
- There are multiple factions within the Order

- The Hymn of One and OpAphid are two separate and distinct factions - independent of each other.

- Lucy is with the Hymn of One and acts as or acted as liaison with OpAphid.

- OpAphid was called upon by the Hymn of One liaison (Lucy) to assist with 'compelling' Bree to participate in the ceremony. That is why Lucy is seen with members of OpAphid in "Human Ransom".

- OpAphid failed to deliver and a rogue agent resorted to traditional (extreme) OpAphid measures in an attempt to deliver Bree.

- The Watcher stepped stepped in and "terminated" the rogue agent.

- Hymn of One (Lucy) terminated the 'contract' with OpAphid, deciding instead to handle matters internally.

- Tachyon has no personal interest with Bree - her vendetta is against OpAphid. To her, Bree was only significant while Oppy was interested in her. No more interest by Oppy means no more interest by Tachyon.

- Since Lucy has seen the videos from the beginning, we should assume that she sees them now. Whether she shares that information with other members of the Order is unknown - it appears, for whatever reason, she does not. Perhaps she has motives of her own.
Would you mind stopping to help the Creators explain it away?
If they screw up the universe, it's their responsibility to fix it.

(If you were a Creator, though, that'd definitely make sense :smt002)

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:36 pm
by xjackieee
trainer101 wrote:I posted this in Plot Discussion but I wanted to post it here also, as a response to myself. :D

If we assume that the Hymn of One has been Bree's religion since the beginning then there is one common thread that ties the religious faction with OpAphid (the enforcement faction) - Lucy.

My take is this:
- There are multiple factions within the Order

- The Hymn of One and OpAphid are two separate and distinct factions - independent of each other.

- Lucy is with the Hymn of One and acts as or acted as liaison with OpAphid.

- OpAphid was called upon by the Hymn of One liaison (Lucy) to assist with 'compelling' Bree to participate in the ceremony. That is why Lucy is seen with members of OpAphid in "Human Ransom".

- OpAphid failed to deliver and a rogue agent resorted to traditional (extreme) OpAphid measures in an attempt to deliver Bree.

- The Watcher stepped stepped in and "terminated" the rogue agent.

- Hymn of One (Lucy) terminated the 'contract' with OpAphid, deciding instead to handle matters internally.

- Tachyon has no personal interest with Bree - her vendetta is against OpAphid. To her, Bree was only significant while Oppy was interested in her. No more interest by Oppy means no more interest by Tachyon.

- Since Lucy has seen the videos from the beginning, we should assume that she sees them now. Whether she shares that information with other members of the Order is unknown - it appears, for whatever reason, she does not. Perhaps she has motives of her own.
you're most definitely onto something.

and off topic, somewhat, since we found bree's parents were not her real ones, and jonas's are still alive, is anyone besides me making predictions as to who's who's mother/father/brother/sister?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:07 am
by ApotheosisAZ
xjackieee wrote: and off topic, somewhat, since we found bree's parents were not her real ones, and jonas's are still alive, is anyone besides me making predictions as to who's who's mother/father/brother/sister?
If you are asking Nikki, then this is on topic, and a good question!

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:06 am
by janesalteredstates
Renegade wrote:
trainer101 wrote:I posted this in Plot Discussion but I wanted to post it here also, as a response to myself. :D

If we assume that the Hymn of One has been Bree's religion since the beginning then there is one common thread that ties the religious faction with OpAphid (the enforcement faction) - Lucy.

My take is this:
- There are multiple factions within the Order

- The Hymn of One and OpAphid are two separate and distinct factions - independent of each other.

- Lucy is with the Hymn of One and acts as or acted as liaison with OpAphid.

- OpAphid was called upon by the Hymn of One liaison (Lucy) to assist with 'compelling' Bree to participate in the ceremony. That is why Lucy is seen with members of OpAphid in "Human Ransom".

- OpAphid failed to deliver and a rogue agent resorted to traditional (extreme) OpAphid measures in an attempt to deliver Bree.

- The Watcher stepped stepped in and "terminated" the rogue agent.

- Hymn of One (Lucy) terminated the 'contract' with OpAphid, deciding instead to handle matters internally.

- Tachyon has no personal interest with Bree - her vendetta is against OpAphid. To her, Bree was only significant while Oppy was interested in her. No more interest by Oppy means no more interest by Tachyon.

- Since Lucy has seen the videos from the beginning, we should assume that she sees them now. Whether she shares that information with other members of the Order is unknown - it appears, for whatever reason, she does not. Perhaps she has motives of her own.
Would you mind stopping to help the Creators explain it away?
If they screw up the universe, it's their responsibility to fix it.

(If you were a Creator, though, that'd definitely make sense :smt002)
What Renegade said only with more of an annoyed tone and no smilies.