0197 - "Oh, The Places You'll Go" [05/24/07]

Shastacat2 · Post by **Shastacat2** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:46 pm

The Google maps locations on Lucy's computer have been identified as:
Zavalla, Texas;
La Crete, Alberta, Canada;
Wickenburg, Arizona;
North Topanga Canyon Blvd., Topanga, CA; and
Adak Island, Alaska.

So these were the other locations on Lucy's Computer. Maybe they should try looking some things up about the other locations. One of them could be the possible Ceremony site.

house · Post by **house** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:58 pm

One usually buys a tripod because they plan to be IN the videos and not have the resources to have another human stand and film. So, Daniel and Jonas, who usually shoot handheld now have a tripod? Why?

I thought the very pointed introduction of the new tri-pod was telling. This is only speculation, but I wonder if we're going to see Daniel and Jonas get taken...leaving the camera-on-tripod to record the events, with an end shot of a black suit walking up to the tripod, at the end, and turning it off.

Madisson went out in a similar manner (camera perched on top of the car, so that Madisson and her boy-toy could be shot and we could hear it all).

nowherepixie · Post by **nowherepixie** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:04 pm

Eeeesh. Good point. He didn't need to mention the tripod at all. I hope no one gets taken out though....

RedRevolver · Post by **RedRevolver** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:14 pm

We've bought a new tripod - isn't that what he said?

He may be implying that they had one before.

IDK.

nowherepixie · Post by **nowherepixie** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:17 pm

Yeh maybe....

Maybe their new one is bugged!

Ruberic · Post by **Ruberic** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:21 pm

Some of my thoughts:

1. The list on Lucy's computer could be location of other potential "chosen" children that were identified during their conception. The child in Zavalla turned out to be negative for the specific trait, however Lucy would still have known of her wereabouts.

2. Bree did was not aware of Julia until Nikki B. introduced her to the viewers. For the first time, Nikki B. was seen by Bree (I think it was the first time). Nikki B. stated that she was tipped off about Julia by a source. Odd, is it not, that the source tipped her off about a child that happened to be in the city on Lucy's list? Even though she was Trait (and this was known by the order)? Further more, Odd that Bree saw THIS report by Nikki B.? Furthermore...where IS Nikki B now?

3. Lucy happened to be in the same city, supposedly coming to take a child they already knew was TRAIT NEGATIVE. Why? Did she know that Bree was going to come and check-up on her? Is that why Julia was not being protected by the watchers like Bree was? That it was really a lure for Bree the entire time?

4. All major players of the order are missing. Lucy, Alex, etc. Everyone bugged out. NOTHING is left behind.

5. Taylor HELPED us in solving the puzzle. Taylor is a cannon character. This is a new turn in the game, that a cannon character actively helps us solve a puzzle. Something has to be coming from this change.

Finally: 6. The film did not start at the beginning. The beginning was in Bree's house, and then at Daniel's. They did not revisit everything. We NEVER have seen the site of the CAMP that was hinted at in the note.

Just my thoughts.

nowherepixie · Post by **nowherepixie** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:24 pm

Good point. All the orderites are gone. Where they gone?
Tahiti for the ceremony and after party?

Renegade · Post by **Renegade** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:28 pm

So let me get this straight...not only do we get the usually repetition of story-arc-parts (ROAD TRIP!!! YEAH!!!), but that repetition is actually packed with a sub-layer of repetitions, by revisiting all the places they've been to before?!

It's akin to a clipshow on television... -_-

I mean, I kinda accepted the fact that they're re-using the same arc everytime by now...but usually, they at least do that at a new place - i.e., the road trip actually leads somewhere else.

This was just...lame. I mean, "oh, Alex is not home anymore!!" - wtf did they expect? That the Order just invites her for pizza and spin art, and then sends her home??

The constant repetition is lame. But repeating the repetition inside the repetition is just stupid.

Or lazy.

nowherepixie · Post by **nowherepixie** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:37 pm

And don't take tea from strangers!

Especially suspected Order strangers!

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:11 pm

Ruberic wrote:Some of my thoughts:

1. The list on Lucy's computer could be location of other potential "chosen" children that were identified during their conception. The child in Zavalla turned out to be negative for the specific trait, however Lucy would still have known of her wereabouts.

I guess that's a reasonable explanation, but still ... it kind of seemed like they were explaining the significance of those maps and then switched things such that the meaning is uncertain once more.

Ruberic wrote:Nikki B. stated that she was tipped off about Julia by a source.

Actually, Nikki found Jules on her own. She got a tip in the video before that (where she found the kidnapper's motel room).

Ruberic wrote:Furthermore...where IS Nikki B now?

Very good question. We haven't seen her since May 1. Surprising that she has no comment on all that's happened.

Ruberic wrote:3. Lucy happened to be in the same city, supposedly coming to take a child they already knew was TRAIT NEGATIVE. Why? Did she know that Bree was going to come and check-up on her? Is that why Julia was not being protected by the watchers like Bree was? That it was really a lure for Bree the entire time?

That would be my guess.

Ruberic wrote:5. Taylor HELPED us in solving the puzzle. Taylor is a cannon character. This is a new turn in the game, that a cannon character actively helps us solve a puzzle. Something has to be coming from this change.

I think that "she" helped us because we were getting nowhere on our own. Apo figured out the periodic table connection (which "Taylor" also told us was the right way to be thinking), but other than that, we were dead in the water. The Creators had to give us a push in the right direction to keep the story from slowing up.

ApotheosisAZ · Post by **ApotheosisAZ** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:27 pm

Lurker wrote:I think that "she" helped us because we were getting nowhere on our own. Apo figured out the periodic table connection (which "Taylor" also told us was the right way to be thinking), but other than that, we were dead in the water. The Creators had to give us a push in the right direction to keep the story from slowing up.

That is exactly what happened, and it is the proper way to move the story along when people get stuck for an answer.

I only mention it because it wasn't a shill. "Taylor" didn't actually reveal the answer, and Impulse picked up the hint she threw out.

MintyBeast · Post by **MintyBeast** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:51 pm

I def think we should go back to Bree and then Daniel's house.

I also think it would be very interesting if we got a sneak peak of Daniel's parents. And their reaction to him coming in the house: would they demand where he had been, not out of concern, but annoyance or would they even notice he had been gone?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:57 pm

ApotheosisAZ wrote:
Lurker wrote:I think that "she" helped us because we were getting nowhere on our own. Apo figured out the periodic table connection (which "Taylor" also told us was the right way to be thinking), but other than that, we were dead in the water. The Creators had to give us a push in the right direction to keep the story from slowing up.
That is exactly what happened, and it is the proper way to move the story along when people get stuck for an answer.

Agreed.

ApotheosisAZ wrote:I only mention it because it wasn't a shill. "Taylor" didn't actually reveal the answer, and Impulse picked up the hint she threw out.

Yeah, I don't consider that a shill either. It's not like the answer itself was given, and it's not like we don't know that Taylor's account is run by the Creators. Besides, it had to be done.

Ruberic · Post by **Ruberic** » Thu May 24, 2007 4:07 pm

A couple of respenses:

First: The point I was trying to make with Nikki B is not so much the fact that she was tipped off or not (Lurker is correct, I was thinking of the film before Jules was found), but the fact that this was the first time Bree (as far as I can tell) aknowledged Nikki B. This was done right before she went to find Jules. It seemed a set up from the beginning.

Second: About Taylor. I was NOT intending to suggest she was a shill. That was not the point. The point was that the creators needed to push the story along so soon for a reason. (In the old ARG, we could sit for a couple of days without any real need to push). This tells me that the story NEEDS to continue at a quick pace. Means something is up.

Thanks for helping me expand on my ideas so they are a bit clearer!

)

-Ruberic

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu May 24, 2007 4:16 pm

Ruberic wrote:A couple of respenses:

First: The point I was trying to make with Nikki B is not so much the fact that she was tipped off or not (Lurker is correct, I was thinking of the film before Jules was found), but the fact that this was the first time Bree (as far as I can tell) aknowledged Nikki B. This was done right before she went to find Jules. It seemed a set up from the beginning.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Since it was the first time Bree acknowledged her, it had to be significant? I think it could have gone either way, though. I mean, either as a set-up by the Order (which I doubt Nikki realized) or as a genuine discovery of a new girl.

Ruberic wrote:Second: About Taylor. I was NOT intending to suggest she was a shill. That was not the point. The point was that the creators needed to push the story along so soon for a reason. (In the old ARG, we could sit for a couple of days without any real need to push). This tells me that the story NEEDS to continue at a quick pace. Means something is up.

That's a good point.