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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:42 pm
by imogene2004
Ok, did Bree call her Julie? I thought her name was Julia....anyway, not important. I can't take the Jules talk anymore, pick her as the girl or don't pick her (I'm leaning towards NOT picking her), but just get it over with. They must've chosen her, cuz she's the only one that Bree mentions, but I really really really really really (ok ya'll get the point) :x DON'T WANT JULES TO BE THE NEW GIRL!!!!!!!!!! :roll: There are so many good potential new girls, c'mon creators please give us a break and pick one of the girls we actually like and can pay attention to without getting annoyed. I guess they might not want to pick a fan though, because the fan will be privy to some stuff before the rest of us and could possibly let it leak. So if that's the case I can see why they wanna go with this girl, she may be the only 15-ish year old girl they know and they know she'll keep it under wraps. Oh well, since she's almost obviously the one whether we like it or not, I guess I'll just deal. I hope they get her part over with soon and try to make it as painless as possible, like ripping off a bandaid.

I like the hypnotizing idea, hope it works, that could be really interesting. :D

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:42 pm
by aerial
watermelonhead wrote:Jules looks young-- but her myspace says her age is 77.

Is that her real age or does she just have a really young face?
lol

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:43 pm
by Aja
krmurr87 wrote:Alysa- hahaha your the double agent they sent a bullitan about then I guess!!! just e-mail your undying faith to them on myspace or somethin lol

Jen- umm your sig is awesome and so true


I also feel bad for the lil 12 yr old actress out there that is dealing with of us hating on her lol ...but seriously kill her off
Yes... TFW seems very intent on keeping those "loyal" to HoO out. They're on to you!

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:43 pm
by EdWont
Smelltheflowers wrote:Well, aside from my utter disgust for Jules, I visited the site Bree mentioned in this video (To see it, click Here).

Since there isn't much information on the front page, do you think one of us should attempt to contact them, maybe under the guise of being interested in joining the Hymn of One?

It might be a silly idea, I'm just throwing it out there :oops:
Not silly at all. Anyone want to be a spy?

Incidently, practically, I'm not digging this hypnotism idea. Some people do this to try to recall memories about being birthed and alien abduction. Often times, it boils down to the person being hypnotized creating a story based on the cues that the hypnotist is implanting in his/her head. For example:

Hypnotist (let's say Daniel): So, man, where are you in the room?
Hypnotized guy (Jonas): Dude, I'm in a chair, and I hear a voice.
DB: What's the voice saying?

OK, even in this simple example there's already a problem. The question, "What's the voice saying?" acts as a subconscious cue to Jonas that he can understand what the voice is saying. Now, yes, I know that while captive, they could talk to the voice, and thus obviously could understand it. BUT, the example illustrates that even the most simple of questions can assume too much and start to construct a narrative that doesn't necessarilly reflect that way things actually happened.

That all being said, I doubt the Creators will worry about that stuff. And honestly, I don't mind. The X-Files used this plot device in a couple of episodes, and I couldn't be happier that it's being used again. It's pretty awesome. I just typed all that out in case the Creators decide to take a more real-world approach to it. I hope we get to see one of the sessions.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:45 pm
by kellylen
i thoguht the boys hypnotizing each other was comical :D

also. I love how quirky Bree is becoming lately. It makes me smile.

I don't really know what else to say. sooooooo ill think of more later

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:48 pm
by krmurr87
AHH Kelly just noticed you sig yay :smt007 \:D/


ok OT: I'm hoping that later tonight we have a vid of them hypnotizing each other

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:50 pm
by Smelltheflowers
megs229 wrote:Jen- I agree that I don't like Jules, but I find your hate for her funny :) not laughing at you but more at the creators and Jules. I don't find you funny but the way you worded your first post made me laugh, I don't think you are the only one who feels this way.
That's okay, I'm not offended at all :) I actually felt guilty speaking up against the series at all, but I think I've just reached my wit's end. It seems silly to ignore your fans, the very people supporting the series, when on mass they're telling you they don't like where the series is seemingly going.

Who knows, maybe I've just been studying for my university finals for far too long. I have zero patience for most things at this point, my brain is fried.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:52 pm
by Lurker
imogene2004 wrote:Ok, did Bree call her Julie? I thought her name was Julia....
I told you: Complete airhead.

It's not the only slip up with the Jules character, though. Read this about a deleted YouTube comment.
Inigo wrote:"Dark Side of the Moon"

Seems like a reference to the famous Pink Floyd Album... could it mean something?
Bree doesn't come off to me as the type to be a Floyd fan.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:57 pm
by mindinflight
I have to say this... I LOVE the hypnosis idea! The thought of the two boys staring deeply into one another's eyes (okay, that sounded way more... intimate than I intended it to :P) and psychobabbling about ...I dunno, past-life regression or memory recall just cracks me up. I swear, I had a dream not too long ago that the plotline would twist in the Freudian direction. *shrugs* :)

On another note: I want more Trio vids! Gah, don't get me wrong, I love new, quirky-er, hardworking Bree... I just don't know how many more of these "asides" I can handle before I need me some action!!! That is all.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:57 pm
by Smelltheflowers
Lurker wrote:
imogene2004 wrote:Ok, did Bree call her Julie? I thought her name was Julia....
I told you: Complete airhead.

It's not the only slip up with the Jules character, though. Read this about a deleted YouTube comment.
Inigo wrote:"Dark Side of the Moon"

Seems like a reference to the famous Pink Floyd Album... could it mean something?
Bree doesn't come off to me as the type to be a Floyd fan.
Sounds like you dislike Bree about as much as I dislike (Hate!) Jules :P To each their own, I guess.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:03 pm
by EdWont
Inigo wrote:"Dark Side of the Moon"

Seems like a reference to the famous Pink Floyd Album... could it mean something?
I'm skeptical that it is, but maybe...If it is a reference to the classic album, there are multiple avenues that you could explore. Such as...

1.) Is it a reference to the album art (a prism? wtf)
2.) Is it a reference to the track names or the lyrics?
3.) Is it a reference to the crazy sync-up that somebody can do with the album and the Wizard of Oz (AKA Dark Side of Oz)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_side_of_oz
4.) Is it a reference to the theme of the album?

Good luck, if you choose to pursue it.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:03 pm
by bluejay
Lurker, thanks for posting that link to the lgpedia - I didn't know about the YouTube comment Jules made. One other problem the Creators have to deal with (if Jules is canon) is that Jules posted her first video as a response to an LG15 video - Losing My Religion. That was where Bree actually named the Hymn of One and was really crticial of it... so it seems that if Jules is canon, and part of Hymn of One, she also knows all about what Bree went through.

If she really is the New Girl, then wouldn't she be a little bit worried about all this, and doing the ceremony? She knows who Bree is, so wouldn't she be excited about responding to her messages?
Or try to set the record straight like some of the other New Girls have done?

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:11 pm
by TommyIsCancer
Meh, not much of a video. It was really cute. I appreciate a slow burn but I hope something happens soon to tell us definitely who the new girl is. This waiting is torture.

But dang, Bree was as cute as humanly possible today. :oops:

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:14 pm
by EdWont
bluejay wrote:Lurker, thanks for posting that link to the lgpedia - I didn't know about the YouTube comment Jules made. One other problem the Creators have to deal with (if Jules is canon) is that Jules posted her first video as a response to an LG15 video - Losing My Religion. That was where Bree actually named the Hymn of One and was really crticial of it... so it seems that if Jules is canon, and part of Hymn of One, she also knows all about what Bree went through.

If she really is the New Girl, then wouldn't she be a little bit worried about all this, and doing the ceremony? She knows who Bree is, so wouldn't she be excited about responding to her messages?
Or try to set the record straight like some of the other New Girls have done?
I think you might've just answered a question I had. I was wondering why Jules is so much younger than Bree if she really is supposed to do the same ceremony. Since she's younger, she may be more easily influenced (manipulated) by the religion, and thus wouldn't back out last second. Furthermore, if Jules is told by somebody in authority that, "Bree is bad and a liar," or something and she is more easily controlled, then perhaps that would be all she needed to drop her LG fandom.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:26 pm
by thelogicpuzzler
aerial wrote:i think the hypnotizing stuff might actually work.

what else do they have to do?
On Mythbusters, they hypnotized some cast and crew members and found that people remember more details of a traumatic events when they're hypnotized versus pure memory.